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Slowik and the offense

NitroGSXR said:
I’m confused. Are we talking about something different? I don’t see them badmouthing their players or coaches.
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DJohn2008 posted that Hannah McNair owner of the Texans should keep her mouth shut. The only reference I am aware of with Hannah is when she did an interview and she was called salty by the talking heads. She said in response to their comment about increasing the rivalry between the Titans and Houston that "they have to beat us first."

I replied I think all teams do that. I also stated if I was the owner I would.
I am unaware of Hannah talking bad about any other teams players or her own and that includes comments about coaches.
 
In a manner of speaking we *are* close.

Shore up all the damn mistakes and undisciplined play that ruin drives and things will get better.

Slowik not performing well doesn't reflect well on him because he hasn't adjusted to deal with our injuries and whatever else. That's a problem.
 
Hey hey Ho Ho, Slowik must go..

At the absolute very least, play calling duties need to be handed to someone else. Honestly, a blind squirrel could find more nuts than Bobby. But DeMeco is going to Kubiak his way through this mess, to his, and the team’s detriment.

Happy Thanksgiving to all of you ladies and gents.
 
badboy said:
DJohn2008 posted that Hannah McNair owner of the Texans should keep her mouth shut. The only reference I am aware of with Hannah is when she did an interview and she was called salty by the talking heads. She said in response to their comment about increasing the rivalry between the Titans and Houston that "they have to beat us first."

I replied I think all teams do that. I also stated if I was the owner I would.
I am unaware of Hannah talking bad about any other teams players or her own and that includes comments about coaches.
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Thank you for clarifying for me. I got confused and was thinking an owner was accused of bad mouthing players/coaches. Oh sure! Some good natured ribbing had always been a pastime of NFL football. I always knew it as “The Governor’s Cup”. It was a rivalry pressed hard by our mayors. Those days are long gone now though.
 
Number19 said:
???????? Your comment doesn't make sense to me. You have Mixon and the WR in motion. How is this on the Center? Who tells the Center to snap the ball? It's the QB. So it's possible he made the mistake. But who is the play caller? You mean on the the sideline or in the huddle? Who was suppose to be in motion? The way I figure it, it was the other guy who screwed the pooch.
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The play caller is the guy on the sideline, it couldn't be his fault.

Could be on the Center if he snapped the ball early.

Could be on the QB if he didn't wait for the motion players got set.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Owners don’t need to run their mouth consistently like that.
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I love ❤️ it when she's trolling the Titans. Sux when things don't go our way, but never fear. We have another opportunity coming up in a few weeks.

I hope she turns it up.
 
It’s already come out that Mixon was in error. Dell was supposed to motion, Mixon was not. The play had no motion for Mixon. CJ took the blame, but that was on Mixon. When guys are suffering the small details, that falls back on the coaching staff. There are a lot of fine details this team does not get right, especially on the offensive side of the ball.

Hey hey, Ho Ho…Slowik must go. I’d get rid of most of the offensive staff and start over. They have no answers.
 
Porky said:
It’s already come out that Mixon was in error. Dell was supposed to motion, Mixon was not. The play had no motion for Mixon. CJ took the blame, but that was on Mixon. When guys are suffering the small details, that falls back on the coaching staff. There are a lot of fine details this team does not get right, especially on the offensive side of the ball.

Hey hey, Ho Ho…Slowik must go. I’d get rid of most of the offensive staff and start over. They have no answers.
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Yeah, most will never get the info that Mixon was wrong and continue to blame Stroud.
Ryans should have clarified that in after game presser.
 
FuzzyLogic said:
Are we leaving out the option that one of the two players who did motion wasn't supposed to?
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How is that a penalty?

The penalty is that too many people were in motion when the ball was snapped. QB shouldn't call for the ball when too many people are in motion. Maybe he didn't see it, it is difficult to see everything with helmets on. But when one of the two is the RB...
 
badboy said:
Yeah, most will never get the info that Mixon was wrong and continue to blame Stroud.
Ryans should have clarified that in after game presser.
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Or, we believe Stroud.

Both guys are falling on the sword. One guy has the responsibility to make sure everyone is snapped before the ball is set, the other doesn't.
 
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Bottom line is Stroud isn't as good as he was last yr and Slowik's taking the heat for Stroud's poor play. Plays have been there to be made, but lets blame everything on the OC. It's much easier than facing the truth.
 
Porky said:
It’s already come out that Mixon was in error. Dell was supposed to motion, Mixon was not. The play had no motion for Mixon. CJ took the blame, but that was on Mixon. When guys are suffering the small details, that falls back on the coaching staff. There are a lot of fine details this team does not get right, especially on the offensive side of the ball.

Hey hey, Ho Ho…Slowik must go. I’d get rid of most of the offensive staff and start over. They have no answers.
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See, even when Stroud says he messed up posters make excuses for him.
 
steelbtexan said:
Bottom line is Stroud isn't as good as he was last yr and Slowik's taking the heat for Stroud's poor play. Plays have been there to be made, but lets blame everything on the OC. It's much easier than facing the truth.
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No the offensive line isn’t as good as it was last season. There was a stretch of at least 6 games in a row last season in which CJ didn’t get sacked. This season he’s getting beaten like a darn drum. Not too many quarterbacks can handle that type of ash whipping every game and perform at an high level.

It starts up front and both CJ and Slowik is paying for it.
 
Texansballer74 said:
No the offensive line isn’t as good as it was last season. There was a stretch of at least 6 games in a row last season in which CJ didn’t get sacked. This season he’s getting beaten like a darn drum. Not too many quarterbacks can handle that type of ash whipping every game and perform at an high level.

It starts up front and both CJ and Slowik is paying for it.
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Even with this there have been plays there to be made and that were made last yr, that aren't being made this yr.
 
TexansBull said:
Is that the University of Houston or Houston Texans? The tweet only says Houston. I would have a hard time thinking they would hire a TE coach from LSU for an OC when you have Johnson and Keenum here.

Hell - the Kubiak kid with the Saints may be available this offseason.
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Houston is expected to hire LSU tight ends coach Slade Nagle as its new offensive coordinator, a source tells @CBSSports/@247Sports.

Nagle previously served as an OC under Willie Fritz at Tulane and helped the team go 23-4 in 2022 and ‘23. (@zach_barnett 1st).
 
Texansballer74 said:
No the offensive line isn’t as good as it was last season. There was a stretch of at least 6 games in a row last season in which CJ didn’t get sacked. This season he’s getting beaten like a darn drum. Not too many quarterbacks can handle that type of ash whipping every game and perform at an high level.

It starts up front and both CJ and Slowik is paying for it.
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To your point. Looking at Stroud's 2023 game logs. In his first two starts in 2023, he was sacked 11 times. Then from weeks 3 to 10, he was sacked 11 times. In other words. In 10 games, he was sacked 22 times and half of them were in the first two games of the season.

In ten games this season, he's already been sacked 35 times and pressured 192. Also, in weeks 4-7, he didn't play particulary well. We didn't dwell on it because the Texans exceeded expectations, he was making big plays, they went 2-2 during that stretch and he came out of the slump with a 5 TD, 470 YDs game.

My concern is late in the year, the sacks returned and continued into this season.

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House of Pain said:
Demeco has been given a ton of input on this team, but I think they are going to give him the "Bob McNair forced Kubes to hire Wade as a DC/de facto HC of the defense" treatment, except for the offense instead of the defense. Or they shitcan Bobby, which is still definitely on the table. Either way, the offense looks like a turd sandwich without the bread so something needs to be done.
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If I were running the Texans, If I were the GM, I'd be heavily informed about what's happening on the offensive side of things. I want to know that Slowick is asking the right questions. Holding people accountable, & pointing this team in the right direction. When the end of the season comes & I have my talk with DeMeco it's going to be, "He didn't get this thing fixed, & we're worse in this situation when we didn't need to be." or "He did the best he could with what we gave him. He sees the problems & is on the right track to getting them fixed."

Coaching decision is ultimately on DeMeco, but I'd definitely weigh in on the situation.
 
Earl34 said:
To your point. Looking at Stroud's 2023 game logs. In his first two starts in 2023, he was sacked 11 times. Then from weeks 3 to 10, he was sacked 11 times. In other words. In 10 games, he was sacked 22 times and half of them were in the first two games of the season.

In ten games this season, he's already been sacked 35 times and pressured 192. Also, in weeks 4-7, he didn't play particulary well. We didn't dwell on it because the Texans exceeded expectations, he was making big plays, they went 2-2 during that stretch and he came out of the slump with a 5 TD, 470 YDs game.

My concern is late in the year, the sacks returned and continued into this season.

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My concern is a little bit different as I feel confident that Nick and Demeco will say that the only problem they have is the offensive line. If the offensive line had not been young guys with little NFL experience (Patterson and Fisher) and veteran left and right tackles recovering from injuries all season that Stroud would have been much better and the offensive game successful. I can hear them telling the McNairs "if we had not been forced to juggle Scruggs to left guard and then Howard to left guard we would have been much better. It's not me it's circumstances."

"You know losing Diggs impacted everything ! We just need to replace Diggs in 2025 and maybe get a backup oline player or two as we did with Fisher plus you know hit on a cheap OG as we did last offseason on dline... we should be able to get to that Bowl. "

Convince me I am wrong.
 
thunderkyss said:
If I were running the Texans, If I were the GM, I'd be heavily informed about what's happening on the offensive side of things. I want to know that Slowick is asking the right questions. Holding people accountable, & pointing this team in the right direction. When the end of the season comes & I have my talk with DeMeco it's going to be, "He didn't get this thing fixed, & we're worse in this situation when we didn't need to be." or "He did the best he could with what we gave him. He sees the problems & is on the right track to getting them fixed."

Coaching decision is ultimately on DeMeco, but I'd definitely weigh in on the situation.
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But would you wait until the season is over before you started asking these questions?
 
badboy said:
My concern is a little bit different as I feel confident that Nick and Demeco will say that the only problem they have is the offensive line.
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Then they're not the right people for the job & the sooner Hannah gets rid of them the better.
 
badboy said:
But would you wait until the season is over before you started asking these questions?
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I'm going to let DeMeco coach however he sees fit. I'm not going to 2nd guess him, or try to manipulate him.

I would be up front with my assesments, grades, analytics & self scouting issues in real time. But I'll leave the team building discussions when we're in the team building phase.
 
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