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sprtsfanatic said:
yeah I get the "they are bigger and faster" blah blah blah...but they are playing against guys like them...that are just as big and just as fast...they didnt get breaks while in college...they still had to practice hard in the offseason...they should be used to that by the time they get to the NFL and it being the next step...it should get harder..not easier...
But thats just my opinion...
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Just a bit of history here... back in the old days NO ONE practiced hard in the offseason. One of the reasons training camps were set up they way they were back then was to get everybody back into shape.

Remember, most guys in the old days had to have an offseason job in order to make enough money to make ends meet. That was into the 60's/70's. They got out of shape in the offseason.

Jerry Rice was the first guy I remember really making a career out of working out and preparing and playing football. He was an oddity at the time, a guy who stayed in great shape year round.

It took a lot to get people to really work out intelligently. Even today, there are a lot of ill-concieved routines, but back in the day, the lifting routines people were following were based on bodybuilding routines as opposed to actual strength and performance routines. I remember David Boston, a guy with a great future, who basically went all out following a bodybuilding type of routine and destroyed his athleticism.

The medical advances allow people to come back from thing they would have ended their careers 20 years ago, but that also means that the medical staff are less willing to let guys play through things.

On the other other hand, the drug testing doesn't allow players to take the kinds of pain killers and performance enhancers that guys as recent as Favre could get addicted to. You want guys to get de-wussified, all you got to do is give them the right drugs... drugs they can't get ahold of these days.
 
thunderkyss said:
Can anyone tell me what they are trying to convey with this visual?

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I think this has something to do with run/pass ratio on first and second downs outside of two minutes in the half. But I don't know what "Vegas WP between 20-80%" means.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Just a bit of history here... back in the old days NO ONE practiced hard in the offseason. One of the reasons training camps were set up they way they were back then was to get everybody back into shape.

Remember, most guys in the old days had to have an offseason job in order to make enough money to make ends meet. That was into the 60's/70's. They got out of shape in the offseason.

Jerry Rice was the first guy I remember really making a career out of working out and preparing and playing football. He was an oddity at the time, a guy who stayed in great shape year round.

It took a lot to get people to really work out intelligently. Even today, there are a lot of ill-concieved routines, but back in the day, the lifting routines people were following were based on bodybuilding routines as opposed to actual strength and performance routines. I remember David Boston, a guy with a great future, who basically went all out following a bodybuilding type of routine and destroyed his athleticism.

The medical advances allow people to come back from thing they would have ended their careers 20 years ago, but that also means that the medical staff are less willing to let guys play through things.

On the other other hand, the drug testing doesn't allow players to take the kinds of pain killers and performance enhancers that guys as recent as Favre could get addicted to. You want guys to get de-wussified, all you got to do is give them the right drugs... drugs they can't get ahold of these days.
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Interesting take and good info...I still think mid 80's to late 90's they were still training hard and one could argue was the best era of football...and again...not a lot of injuries before the season started. I get the drug addiction possibilities w/ all the crap thats out now...but one has to wonder why all the limited practices and only walk thru's in underwear vs actually practicing...seems the more they get away from training and practices...the more injuries are occurring. Again just my take looking from the outside in.
 
sprtsfanatic said:
Was just browsing BSPN, and noticed there are a ton of injuries and several being season ending....Im wondering if the wussification of society and the game isnt a reason for this. Limited preseason games, limited practices, limited practices in pads...what happened to the days of 2 a days?? These CBA agreements where they practice less and are in shorts and jerseys all the time.....just seems like its causing more injuries vs their intention of preventing injuries.
I dont recall there being this many injuries, especially season ending injuries back before all of this was limited and frowned upon....IS IT JUST ME???
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One thing you have to remember is the elimination of using the "magic" needle or "happy" gas on the sidelines or in the locker room during games these days that kept players on the field despite their injuries back in the day. However, I do think your point has some validity and our resident medical expert has shared his passion on this before.
 
thunderkyss said:
This is the kind of thing I hoped the coaching staff would have worked through before drafting a QB.

Didn't look as bad as it could have been. Maybe they can work it out. Fingers crossed.
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The coaching staff is working with what was given to them.
 
Corrosion said:
@CloakNNNdagger
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sprtsfanatic said:
Was just browsing BSPN, and noticed there are a ton of injuries and several being season ending....Im wondering if the wussification of society and the game isnt a reason for this. Limited preseason games, limited practices, limited practices in pads...what happened to the days of 2 a days?? These CBA agreements where they practice less and are in shorts and jerseys all the time.....just seems like its causing more injuries vs their intention of preventing injuries.
I dont recall there being this many injuries, especially season ending injuries back before all of this was limited and frowned upon....IS IT JUST ME???
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He's been saying this for over a decade.
 
Khelar said:
Tavierre Thomas stepped up in a big way Sunday. Gave up 3 catches on 3 targets but just 9 yards on those 3 plays. Also forced a fumble that the Ravens managed to get back. Hopefully he can keep that up.
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Unless Richardson corrects his tendency this last game to throw short and to the right, Thomas will need a big game against Indy covering these short passes. SAM will have some responsibility in coverage as well, but he and Greenard will need to contain Richardson's running to that side.
 
sprtsfanatic said:
Interesting take and good info...I still think mid 80's to late 90's they were still training hard and one could argue was the best era of football...and again...not a lot of injuries before the season started. I get the drug addiction possibilities w/ all the crap thats out now...but one has to wonder why all the limited practices and only walk thru's in underwear vs actually practicing...seems the more they get away from training and practices...the more injuries are occurring. Again just my take looking from the outside in.
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The problem with the newer "practice" regimens is that they unfortunately do not offer the same stresses on the players' bodies that they incur in full on regular season games. In acutely going from modest/moderate body strain during most of the week to the shock the body parts sustain in games, the limits of the anatomy are more easily overwhelmed. While muscle mass and strength today is being built up to ridiculous levels, they are not "educated" to appropriately coordinate for the body's needs for immediate transition from practice to game day.
 
Decim8 said:
44 pass attempts? Jeez I hope they bring that down a little bit. They need to get that running game going
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Depends on the strategy....if the running game gives the team quick three and outs, they're going to have to have Plan B ready to go. Plan B should be quick 2-3 step drops and slants for 4-6 yards to help loosen the defense and get them out of the box.

On both of the 4th down attempts Sunday, the Ravens stuffed the box and Stroud probably wasn't given the clearance to audible out of the play. The Texans OL couldn't stop a 4-Man front much less a stuffed box blitz....just a wasted play. A couple of slant options (Brown and Dell) on each play more than likely gets the first downs.
 
Texans say they will give an update on Pitre and Ward after todays practice. BTW Pitre has the easiest name on the roster to type. Just go down the line
 
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Decim8 said:
44 pass attempts? Jeez I hope they bring that down a little bit. They need to get that running game going
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I heard either on Landry’s or Stoot’s podcast that the Ravens run defense is very stout and difficult to run on. (Paraphrasing) therefore, the plan of attack was through the air for this game. Against the Colts we might see a different game blame which includes running the ball more.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
God to see Fant back out there. This clip was evidently posted to show that his shoulder is good. But the sled does not stress the brachial nerve plexus which is what is injured in a shoulder stinger. Good none the less.
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He was hitting the sled with the left shoulder. Would a right shoulder stinger have any effect?
 
Lucky said:
In a weird, uncomfortable way, this makes me glad Brown went on the IR. What in the heck was Brown doing getting more snaps than Tank? It's like Coach Culley is still here.
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I found it odd the 610 guys seemed to imply Tank is not up to speed on the playbook. I did not notice that in the pre-season, but if tree, would hinder the OC and what he wants to do
 
Rich Schmidt said:
I found it odd the 610 guys seemed to imply Tank is not up to speed on the playbook. I did not notice that in the pre-season, but if tree, would hinder the OC and what he wants to do
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They went from he doesn’t need to play because of his performance in the first preseason game. To now saying it’s because of him supposedly not up to speed with the playbook. Lol
 
Texansballer74 said:
They went from he doesn’t need to play because of his performance in the first preseason game. To now saying it’s because of him supposedly not up to speed with the playbook. Lol
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The guy makes plays.

Teach him 4-5 plays/routes and play him 40% of the time. That should allow him 5-7 catches per game and to go along with the KR/PR will allow him to touch the ball 10-15 times a game and this should allow Tank to make 2-4 big plays a game. He's a big play waiting to happen and the Texans offense is currently missing dynamic playmakers. Get him on the field.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The problem with the newer "practice" regimens is that they unfortunately do not offer the same stresses on the players' bodies that they incur in full on regular season games. In acutely going from modest/moderate body strain during most of the week to the shock the body parts sustain in games, the limits of the anatomy are more easily overwhelmed. While muscle mass and strength today is being built up to ridiculous levels, they are not "educated" to appropriately coordinate for the body's needs for immediate transition from practice to game day.
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This reminds me of the proverb, 'The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in war.' Or train like you fight. Something like that.
 
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KemahKeith said:
So he had had this injury sense he was traded for?
LOL
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I don't know what you are talking about? Tunsil had one knee injury while with the Dolphins.........a Grade I MCL for which he missed no games.

An MCL sprain is the most common knee ligament injury in football, accounting for ~50% of all knee injuries. That's why linemen in college are often required to wear knee braces. [That's the only knee ligament injury that has ever been shown to give some protection by a brace.]
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I don't know what you are talking about? Tunsil had one knee injury while with the Dolphins.........a Grade I MCL for which he missed no games.

An MCL sprain is the most common knee ligament injury in football, accounting for ~50% of all knee injuries. That's why linemen in college are often required to wear knee braces. [That's the only knee ligament injury that has ever been shown to give some protection by a brace.]
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I think he was trying to be humorous alluding to Tunsil's false start problems
 
Does anyone else absolutely detest the 610 show with Hughley and Stoerner?

I don't listen to much sports talk radio but I really like the morning show on 610 and the midday show can be entertaining (although very hit or miss). But the afternoon show just doesn't do it for me. I know Stoerner played in the NFL so maybe I should respect his opinions more than I do but I've generally really not agreed with their opinions and don't find them particularly entertaining.
 
Random thing I noticed today:

Pick #230 of the 2023 NFL draft was the most traded pick of the draft.

It was traded 5 times and owned by 5 different teams. The Texans owned the pick twice.

Ultimately the Bills had the pick and turned it in to select offensive lineman Nick Broeker.

Nick was then cut when rosters were getting trimmed down to 53 and the Texans claimed him off waivers.

Maybe it was meant to be? The Texans and him seem fated to be together.
 
Khelar said:
Does anyone else absolutely detest the 610 show with Hughley and Stoerner?

I don't listen to much sports talk radio but I really like the morning show on 610 and the midday show can be entertaining (although very hit or miss). But the afternoon show just doesn't do it for me. I know Stoerner played in the NFL so maybe I should respect his opinions more than I do but I've generally really not agreed with their opinions and don't find them particularly entertaining.
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I found out that Ron Hughley covered the Chiefs for 9 years. He got his ratings by being the negative side of the arguments during a period when the Chiefs were an questionably performing franchise. But his act becamed very tiring when, despite Mahomes success, he always had something bad to say about him in every broadcast.

And for me it is fingernails on the chaukboard when he has nothing intelligent to say (which is most of the time) and his voice gets louder and louder and shriller and shriller.

As for Stoerner, for having been an NFL QB, he barely has any accurate takes on the position. When it comes to his commentary on other positions, it's like Seth Paynes takes on offense.
 
Amazon and Nielsen claim 16.6 million on average watched Vikings-Eagles
By Mike Florio
Published September 15, 2023 08:12 PM

The new calculations are having the intended effect. More people are watching Thursday Night Football on Amazon Prime.

Or, more accurately, Amazon Prime can claim more people are watching.

With a revised formula from Nielsen that ruffled the feathers of executives from other NFL broadcast partners, Amazon Prime announced a total audience of 16.6 million viewers for Thursday night’s Vikings-Eagles game.

Nielsen, after constantly squabbling with Amazon last year regarding the accuracy of the numbers, agreed to incorporate Amazon data in the calculation, driving it higher than it was in 2022. The NFL, cognizant of the importance of maximizing the perceived audience for streamed games in order to maximize the value of those games, fully supports the approach.

It’s frankly somewhat amazing that Amazon doesn’t have reliable, verifiable, hard numbers regarding the customers with Prime who watched the game. They know everything else about the things on which we click. How can’t there be a true, accurate number as to how many have accessed the stream of the game?
 
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