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For all intensive purposes…..I believe it will be Sean Payton interviewing the potential teams for his eventual landing spot.

I think Payton has a general feel for the talent that’s on the teams he’s decided to interview. What he wouldn’t know…..ownership involvement, could he co-exist with the GM, is the GM flexible enough to work together in the War Room and on potential FA, the money, contracts, and cap situation, and how much of a budget is available for his desired staff.

I believe the Texans offer Payton the best overall situation to build long-term success. It doesn’t have to start immediately, but it has to be sustainable.
 
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Generally speaking it doesnt go well for these highly sought after coaches that had success with 1 team for a while, left the game for a few years and then came back.

Ditka and the Saints..disaster

Gibbs and his 2nd stint with the washington..whatevers..hit or miss but never came close to the success he enjoyed the 1st time around.

Jimmy Johnson and the Dolphins…same as Gibbs. Did ok..but He and Marino got embarrassed twice in the playoffs going out on a 60 burger hung on them by Jax of all teams.

Gruden and the Raiders..disaster……. in another way

Parcells is about the only guy who had been able to repeatedly step away from the game for a few years and then duplicate his success over and over.
 
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Mr teX said:
Generally speaking it doesnt go well for these highly sought after coaches that had success with 1 team for a while, left the game for a few years and then came back.

Ditka and the Saints..disaster

Gibbs and his 2nd stint with the washington..whatevers..hit or miss.

Jimmy Johnson and the Dolphins…Did ok..but He and Marino got embarrassed twice in the playoffs going out on a 60 burger hung on them by Jax of all teams.

Gruden and the Raiders..disaster……. in another way

Parcells is about the only guy who has been able to repeatedly step away from the game for a few years and then duplicate his success over and over.
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I’d take Parcells in a minute! Old and all I bet he’d rule the roost!
 
Texan Asylum said:
I’d take Parcells in a minute! Old and all I bet he’d rule the roost!
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Parcells couldn’t duplicate the success like he did back in the day b/c it was all dependent on him getting “his guys” in as players….which is just really code for guys who played under him at other stops. Those guys were be used to indoctrinate the younger players into his ways. Well All “his guys” are now retired and/or out of the league plus the game is so different now so he’d be dealing with a different type of player than he had from the 90’s.
 
Lucky said:
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Ejiro Evero. I had never heard of this guy. He's young (42), but has been in the NFL since 2007. Here are some names Evero has worked under on the defensive side of the ball.

Monte Kiffen (Bucs - 2 years)
Vic Fangio (Niners - 2 years)
Dom Capers (Packers - 1 year)
Wade Phillips (Rams - 3 years)
Raheem Morris (Rams, Bucs - 2 years)
Brandon Staley (Rams - 1 year)

This guy has worked in every defensive system imaginable. Downside? Only one year as DC, no head coaching experience. Would need an older, wiser assistant HC (would Lovie be available?).

🏁 Winning.
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Aren't the Denver Broncos looking for a Head Coach? If Eniro isn't being considered there, why are we considering him here?
 
Xopher said:
Why would Payton want Denver? They spent a ton of draft capital on Wilson and will have to spend even more on Payton. Maybe he believes the roster was good and this season was all a coaching issue?
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If Payton likes Wilson and thinks he can get the old Wilson back then Denver is a really great situation. They lack some talent on offense but a good QB can cover that up and their defense is great.

the Saints tried to trade for Wilson last year and I doubt that was by accident
 
Khelar said:
If Payton likes Wilson and thinks he can get the old Wilson back then Denver is a really great situation. They lack some talent on offense but a good QB can cover that up and their defense is great.

the Saints tried to trade for Wilson last year and I doubt that was by accident
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Denver has talent on offense, they were hit by injuries at their skill positions and Wilson played like crap.
 
None of those choices would be bad I don’t think. But he’s got to bring in coordinators that will coach, teach, instruct, whatever you want to say these guys. Guys like Greene needs to be coached up. Collins, Harris, etc.
Get these guys better. I mean hell, they have talent, they’re in the NFL.
 
Brisco_County said:
The idea of the Texans being a "Toxic organization" is media gaslighting. The candidates being invited don't watch Stephen A Smith.

The Texans situation reminds me of a stock that's going through a devaulation in price while it still has intrinsic value. That's when you buy.
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Yup. Especially when you see the assets. In a stock a healthy company will have a huge reserve of cash and plans. We have a reserve of picks, healthy cap, and the start of a core of players to build around.
 
Number19 said:
Final interviews, for some candidates, won't be allowed, by league rule, until Feb 13, after the SB.
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OptimisticTexan said:
For all intensive purposes…..I believe it will be Sean Payton interviewing the potential teams for his eventual landing spot.
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Intents and purposes. That is all.

PS - Payton is landing in Dallas if they lose in the WC round, and possibly even if they lose in the divisional round. This is just all for show IMHO but we'll see.
 
Mr teX said:
Parcells couldn’t duplicate the success like he did back in the day b/c it was all dependent on him getting “his guys” in as players….which is just really code for guys who played under him at other stops. Those guys were be used to indoctrinate the younger players into his ways. Well All “his guys” are now retired and/or out of the league plus the game is so different now so he’d be dealing with a different type of player than he had from the 90’s.
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Plus he's so old now that he wouldn't live long enough to coach up more of "his guys" before he died of old age even if that were possible. I'm afraid that ship has sailed. Sailed, pulled into port, gone into dry dock, and started rusting.
 
Hervoyel said:
Plus he's so old now that he wouldn't live long enough to coach up more of "his guys" before he died of old age even if that were possible. I'm afraid that ship has sailed. Sailed, pulled into port, gone into dry dock, and started rusting.
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I'm going to miss Parcels almost as much as Madden. If he were 20 years younger I'd show up to his interview in a Brinks truck.
 
amazing80 said:
I think they are interviewing him just to say they did.
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I think Cal is serious. He wants someone experienced as a HC who can immediately stabilize the ship and has a vision for the rebuild. And I would assume Cal would value Payton's input on how an owner would successfully run a franchise.

Also, we've been told Payton would want to pick his own GM. Caserio said at his conference he'd be willing to step down if a coach requested it. I think Caserio was directly referring to Payton.
 
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Porky said:
Intents and purposes. That is all.

PS - Payton is landing in Dallas if they lose in the WC round, and possibly even if they lose in the divisional round. This is just all for show IMHO but we'll see.
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This and the Chargers as well.

I think Payton said he wanted to coach in LA.

Chargers, Dallas, and then Texans. That order.

Chargers are only a player or two away. Taxes suck but that’s where I would go if I wanted to win quick.
 
Brisco_County said:
I think Cal is serious. He wants someone experienced as a HC who can immediately stabilize the ship and has a vision for the rebuild.

Also we've been told Payton would want to pick his own GM. Caserio said at his conference he'd be willing to step down if a coach requested it. I think Caserio was directly referring to Payton.
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You may be right, but I gotta believe Payton has no true interest in the Texans though no one will ever say it. I damn sure hope they don't give up any draft capital for any coach
 
TexansBull said:
This and the Chargers as well.

I think Payton said he wanted to coach in LA.

Chargers, Dallas, and then Broncos. That order.

Chargers are only a player or two away. Taxes suck but that’s where I would go if I wanted to win quick.
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Saints say Cardinals, Texans, Broncos are “well aware” of compensation for Sean Payton
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 13, 2023, 1:48 PM EST


Three teams have been given permission by the Saints to interview Sean Payton to be their next head coach, and those three teams know that kind of compensation the Saints will demand to hire Payton.

That’s the word from Saints General Manager Mickey Loomis, who said today that those three teams are the only ones that have sought permission to speak to Payton, and all three were given that permission only after the Saints made clear that they’re not giving Payton away.

“We haven’t settled on exactly what the compensation is going to be yet, but they’re well aware that there is going to be compensation,” Loomis said.

Loomis said he hasn’t offered a specific price for Payton because different teams have different combinations of draft picks that they’d be able to send the Saints.

“It’s going to be different for every team because they have different picks and different things available to them,” Loomis said.

“They have to get our permission to have a discussion with him, and then we have to have the compensation settled before they can actually hire him.”

The Saints are in rough salary cap shape this year and don’t have a first-round pick. It’s going to be tough for them to rebuild their roster, but draft picks for Payton would be helpful, and it would benefit the Saints if one of those other teams hires him.
 
JB said:
You may be right, but I gotta believe Payton has no true interest in the Texans though no one will ever say it. I damn sure hope they don't give up any draft capital for any coach
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TexansBull said:
This and the Chargers as well.

I think Payton said he wanted to coach in LA.

Chargers, Dallas, and then Texans. That order.

Chargers are only a player or two away. Taxes suck but that’s where I would go if I wanted to win quick.
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Building a team your way --from the ground up-- may be more rewarding than winning a championship with someone else's guys. It depends on what satisfies Payton most. Does he just want an express lane to another Super Bowl, or does he want to build something? That will determine his destination.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
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Saints say Cardinals, Texans, Broncos are “well aware” of compensation for Sean Payton
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 13, 2023, 1:48 PM EST


Three teams have been given permission by the Saints to interview Sean Payton to be their next head coach, and those three teams know that kind of compensation the Saints will demand to hire Payton.

That’s the word from Saints General Manager Mickey Loomis, who said today that those three teams are the only ones that have sought permission to speak to Payton, and all three were given that permission only after the Saints made clear that they’re not giving Payton away.

“We haven’t settled on exactly what the compensation is going to be yet, but they’re well aware that there is going to be compensation,” Loomis said.

Loomis said he hasn’t offered a specific price for Payton because different teams have different combinations of draft picks that they’d be able to send the Saints.

“It’s going to be different for every team because they have different picks and different things available to them,” Loomis said.

“They have to get our permission to have a discussion with him, and then we have to have the compensation settled before they can actually hire him.”

The Saints are in rough salary cap shape this year and don’t have a first-round pick. It’s going to be tough for them to rebuild their roster, but draft picks for Payton would be helpful, and it would benefit the Saints if one of those other teams hires him.
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The Saints will want a 1st this year, not next. I don't see Denver as a realistic contender.
 
Errant Hothy said:
I am not in favor of spending draft picks for a coach who only won with a HOF QB developed by another franchise and retired before his contract was complete. Let somebody else play that game; I'd rather roll the dice with one of the younger guys
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This perspective has merit. At the same time, I remember Payton making good decisions and taking smart risks in NOLA. For instance, the surprise onside kick against the Colts in the Super Bowl that turned out to be the difference maker. Also the way he productively utilized Taysom Hill.

One of the reasons young coaches are the hot commodity now is they're willing to take new approaches to the game, but Payton has been doing it smartly for many years. This isn't an endorsement of him, just info to consider.
 
Cal showed us that he wanted to hand the franchise over to someone who would let him know when to put the PS3 down to make it to the game on time. He swung for the fence and struck out big time giving all that control to BOB. He then bunted on the next two hires and got thrown out at first. I could see him swinging for the fence again with Payton knowing that he has a proven winner to hand things over to this time.
 
AcresHomesTexan said:
I have seen/heard just like Houston and other reports say the Saints allowed the interview. Not sure anymore.
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Saints say Cardinals, Texans, Broncos are "well aware" of compensation for Sean Payton

Three teams have been given permission by the Saints to interview Sean Payton to be their next head coach, and those three teams know that kind of compensation the Saints will demand to hire Payton.
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That’s the word from Saints General Manager Mickey Loomis, who said today that those three teams are the only ones that have sought permission to speak to Payton, and all three were given that permission only after the Saints made clear that they’re not giving Payton away...

“We haven’t settled on exactly what the compensation is going to be yet, but they’re well aware that there is going to be compensation,” Loomis said.

“It’s going to be different for every team because they have different picks and different things available to them,” Loomis said. “They have to get our permission to have a discussion with him, and then we have to have the compensation settled before they can actually hire him.”
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Missed that the Good Doctor has already updated this
 
austins23 said:
None of those choices would be bad I don’t think. But he’s got to bring in coordinators that will coach, teach, instruct, whatever you want to say these guys. Guys like Greene needs to be coached up. Collins, Harris, etc.
Get these guys better. I mean hell, they have talent, they’re in the NFL.
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Tell me who can get the best ol coach and that's who I want as a HC. They've put together a great list of HC candidates. IMHO
 
steelbtexan said:
Tell me who can get the best ol coach and that's who I want as a HC. They've put together a great list of HC candidates. IMHO
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I haven't seen very much regarding what coordinators or position coaches each HC might bring in.
I've seen Ben Johnson and Fangio mentioned together, once.
And the only other candidate I've seen any info on is Gannon and the list of names he might be associated with, and that list was pretty impressive
 
Errant Hothy said:
I am not in favor of spending draft picks for a coach who only won with a HOF QB developed by another franchise and retired before his contract was complete. Let somebody else play that game; I'd rather roll the dice with one of the younger guys
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Very valid reasoning.

But, if Cal had to turn the on field product over to Payton on the condition of Cal can't meddle with decisions over who makes final personnel decisions and where Payton wants to spend money to make this franchise successful, would you buy in.

He's the only candidate that can do this.
 
Errant Hothy said:
I am not in favor of spending draft picks for a coach who only won with a HOF QB developed by another franchise and retired before his contract was complete. Let somebody else play that game; I'd rather roll the dice with one of the younger guys
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I’m not endorsing Payton at all, but what? He won with a HOF QB developed by another franchise? Go look at his numbers at San Diego. Dude was not very good.

And again, I do not get arguing against a proven successful HC over wanting to roll the dice on somebody with no HC experience. If you don’t like Payton, or don’t want him here, that’s fine, but that’s a silly argument to make for it. That sounds like something the Texans would pull. This guy has been successful throughout this career? Well, we don’t need that kind of culture around here.
 
Much of this is closest to the truth of the dysfunction that has taken place at NRG with CalHannahJack.

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NFL Insider Ian Rapoport Believes The Texans Coaching Job Is Desirable

NFL Insider Ian Rapoport Believes The Texans Coaching Job Is Desirable. This headline is just one of the many questions Sean Salisbury asked NFL Network Inside
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Salisbury's question purporting that Cal hasn't been involved is flat out wrong. Cal has been in there most every day, and had his bought-and-paid-for bestie and organizational spy the Jackster to report to him on days Cal was away from NRG. The Jackster fakked up a lot of stuff, twisted up communications between Nick and Cal throughout his tenure there.

Caserio did not hire Culley per se, he walked into to Lovie sitting in the DC chair and Cal and Hannah and Jack and Janice telling him he could choose between Leslie Frazier and Culley. Maybe 2 owners knew who David Culley even was in 2020, but Cal was talking Culley up in early December before Texans could have contact with Nick. Korn Ferry had Culley (deep) on their black head coach candidates list.

2022 Caserio told Jonathan Gannon he had the job and JG had a staff mostly together including Mike Munchak as OL coach and AHC. Jack had told McCown he had the job. CalHannah overruled Nick and went with Lovie.

McNairs were 100% only hiring black head coaches then, per Janice's orders. Why? Because of their Conversations For Change initiative that was prompted by Bill O'Brien's impromptu I'm Ready To Take A Knee speech on race relations and NFL back in 2020. They didn’t want to be criticized for going back on that initiative so quickly.

Rapsheet: "You can argue about who the influence came from for those other [Head Coach] hires."
Salisbury: Did he [Caserio] solely make the [Head Coach] decisions himself the last two years?
Rapsheet: "I would probably say No."
Salisbury: Was Jack Easterby the next man in power?
Rapsheet: "Yes Jack Easterby and Cal McNair were very tight, there was a lot of influence. Jack Easterby had a part in every decision... There was a lot of voices, not all of them good."
 
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