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Nick Caserio - New GM

steelbtexan said:
I think this QB class is very Carresque and could be better with better coaching. But certainly not championship timber. I really see alot of Carr in Levis and his throwing motion. Stay far away.

The reason they only picked 3 QB's and 1 in the 1st rd (And he missed on that pick) in RS tenture here is directly on RS and his failure in this area is another reason why RS cant sniff another job in the NFL.
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But you think Carter can be Julius Peppers? Stop it. Carr esque. I guess you knew Flacco and Eli had championship timber too right. What about Stafford breaking Schaub pick 6 record and his team still won the superbowl? Did he have the timber? After you cycle through, shoot me the lotto numbers too.
 
leebigeztx said:
Listen, you keep posting this as if every owner in the nfl doesn't hire the head coach. Every owner hires the head coach based on the info the gm gives them. Do you really think Cal or any other owner is putting a hire list together of the best candidates? No, they're not. They rely on the gm to tell them who is qualified to coach the team. At the end of the day , every owner technically hires the hc the gm wants them to hire. You think Cal fired Culley or Caserio? If Caserio didn't fire Culley, then that means Cal hired him and vice versa. When Culley got fired, I didn't hear Cal saying they had philosophical differences.
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This is a very good point. Even with the McCown interviews. If you look at when McCown was signed as a 3rd string QB and given a 30 minute press conference. He mentioned Easterby and his plans/goals. This was before they hired Caserio.

So, to your point. It's more believable that Easterby is the one that either got in Cal or Caserio's ear to get McCown on that interview list. I doubt the idea to interview McCown started with the McNairs demanding McCown gets an interview. So, if the owner doesn't use an outside firm like Korn Ferry to compile the list of qualified candidates, it's the GM and even senior management job to compile the list. The fact that McCown got on the interview list twice is more about Easterby and Caserio than the McNairs.
 
leebigeztx said:
But you think Carter can be Julius Peppers? Stop it. Carr esque. I guess you knew Flacco and Eli had championship timber too right. What about Stafford breaking Schaub pick 6 record and his team still won the superbowl? Did he have the timber? After you cycle through, shoot me the lotto numbers too.
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Did Flacco/Stafford have SB ready rosters ready for them when they joined the Ravens/Rams?

Thanks for making my point for me.
 
Earl34 said:
This is a very good point. Even with the McCown interviews. If you look at when McCown was signed as a 3rd string QB and given a 30 minute press conference. He mentioned Easterby and his plans/goals. This was before they hired Caserio.

So, to your point. It's more believable that Easterby is the one that either got in Cal or Caserio's ear to get McCown on that interview list. I doubt the idea to interview McCown started with the McNairs demanding McCown gets an interview. So, if the owner doesn't use an outside firm like Korn Ferry to compile the list of qualified candidates, it's the GM and even senior management job to compile the list. The fact that McCown got on the interview list twice is more about Easterby and Caserio than the McNairs.
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Easterby got in Janice ear.
 
steelbtexan said:
No excuses need to be made.

1-2. The McNair's hire the HC's. From Capers to Lovie this has always and probably will continue to be thecase.

3. The draft is TBD and although I preferred Sauce over Stingley, it's not like Stingley is bad player.

Green is hurt and playing with one arm. Per CnD. He played pretty well before he got hurt.

Metchie- I didn't like the trade up and would've picked Pickens if the pick was going to be a WR. Metchie was very productive and Young's go to guy in the RZ/3rd downs. He's got the potential to be the best Slot in Texans history. A very low bar.

Harris- Although he got a late start, he's impressed me. He's always around the ball and I'm surprised that his instincts are very good, since that was a knock on him coming out of college. His best football is ahead of him. IMHO

Pitre-I didn't like the pick but he's a good player who should get better. He needs to cleanup his tackling technique. I wanted Sam Williams who's tearing it up with the Cowboys.

Pierce- Great pick.

My mock, most of which I said at the time would've looked like this.

1. Neal (Sauce would've been a better pick.)
1. Davis
2. Sam Williams DE Ole Miss
2. Pickens
3. Harris
4. Pierce

So dont think I love Caserio's draft, but I think he did a solid job.

Hopefully Caserio realizes his mistakes and makes strengthening the trenches his main priority this draft. I will make another mock later but during the bowl season check these guys and tell me what you think.

1. Jalen Carter
1. Tyree Wilson
2. Jared Verse
3. Devon Achane
3. Ricky Stromberg
4. Andrei Iosivas WR Princeton
5. Alex Forsyth C Oregon, If I had to trade up for him I would. Would love your thoughts on him.
6. Tank Dell WR- UH.

Build the trenches and add world class speed to the offense. Get a bridge QB and draft a QB in 2024. If I was forced to draft a QB in this draft I would pick Duggan

Always enjoy your feedback and maybe the mods can move this post to the draft section and I look forward to your opinions.
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Lucky said:
I have to go with someone with a little more production than 6 sacks in 3 years.
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Fair enough. Not a big fan of combine champions without the requisite production attached. Best model is: great college stats + great combine stats + great mental foundation = most reliable prospect.

If Jalen is missing the production part, that would be a red flag for me. Kind of like how Travon Walker was drafted #1 overall last year based mostly on being a combine powerhouse.
 
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steelbtexan said:
Did Flacco/Stafford have SB ready rosters ready for them when they joined the Ravens/Rams?

Thanks for making my point for me.
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No, the Ravens finished 5-11 the year before they drafted Flacco.

Look at the roster on the offensive side between the two years:
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2007 Baltimore Ravens Roster & Players | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Check out the 2007 Baltimore Ravens Roster, Players , Starters and more on Pro-Football-Reference.com.
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2008 Baltimore Ravens Roster & Players | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Check out the 2008 Baltimore Ravens Roster, Players , Starters and more on Pro-Football-Reference.com.
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Lots of new guys.
 
Earl34 said:
This is a very good point. Even with the McCown interviews. If you look at when McCown was signed as a 3rd string QB and given a 30 minute press conference. He mentioned Easterby and his plans/goals. This was before they hired Caserio.

So, to your point. It's more believable that Easterby is the one that either got in Cal or Caserio's ear to get McCown on that interview list. I doubt the idea to interview McCown started with the McNairs demanding McCown gets an interview. So, if the owner doesn't use an outside firm like Korn Ferry to compile the list of qualified candidates, it's the GM and even senior management job to compile the list. The fact that McCown got on the interview list twice is more about Easterby and Caserio than the McNairs.
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Who hired Jack Easterby and gave him so much power in the franchise?

The inherent problem is the McNairs have bad judgement and make bad decisions. So the downstream bad decisions from those they hired ultimately leads back to the top.

I'm ultimately responsible for every decision my employees make. The McNairs should be no different. The last few years are a testament to their terrible management. It's as simple as that.
 
Lucky said:
I have to go with someone with a little more production than 6 sacks in 3 years.
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I've watched this dude get gis helmet knocked off and driven to the ground vs Oregon. I also saw this dude get single covered and bent over vs LSU. Not to mention some of the other games when he was a non factor. You can sell me on a defensive player vs a qb, but just as guys are trying to say pass and build the trenches, he better be a big time differnce make all the time and I don't see carter as that guy. If you look at the guys drafted in 2011 before or around those mediocre qb minus cam, they raised hell day 1. Aldon Smith, Von Miller,Patrick Peterson, AJ Green, Julio Jones and Tyron Smith and JJ Watt. All those guys except Smith are hof guys and were freakish at their position. Aldon was a sack per game played, but couldn't keep off the bottle. None of those qbs were anything close to Young and Stroud. If you evaluate and draft the proper qb, your rebuild happens quicker than normal, that's proven.
 
steelbtexan said:
Did Flacco/Stafford have SB ready rosters ready for them when they joined the Ravens/Rams?

Thanks for making my point for me.
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Flacco 1st rd pick, Stafford 1st overrall pick after 12 years in Detroit. I guess you knew they would win Superbowls the day they were drafted huh? Again, you're moving the goalposts again as usual.
 
ben.aires.smith said:
Fair enough. Not a big fan of combine champions without the requisite production attached. Best model is: great college stats + great combine stats + great mental foundation = most reliable prospect.

If Jalen is missing the production part, that would be a red flag for me. Kind of like how Travon Walker was drafted #1 overall last year based mostly on being a combine powerhouse.
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Carter made a big impact after he returned from injury this yr. Not just in the run game but he played well in the games I saw him play in. (Tennessee, Miss St, a very little bit of Kentucky, LSU) put Carter and either Wilson or Verse on the DL and I can guarantee you that the defense will look much better against the pass and the run. Do this and then go Offense the rest of the draft and the team will be setup to succeed once a QB is drafted in 2024. This is called a long term plan and not a need for instant gratification by picking a middle of the QB pack guy or an outlier QB.

We all want the same thing, we just differ on how to get there and some posters appear to have more patience than others. Hey I think it's going to be hilarious when Young leads the team to 7-10-10-7 seasons and y'all will be doing the same thing y'all did with Derrick. The failure will be everybody's fault from ownership (Which I will agree with because a QB shouldn't have been picked to begin with) to the GM TO whoever the HC is. History will repeat itself like with Carr and now Derrick.
 
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leebigeztx said:
I've watched this dude get gis helmet knocked off and driven to the ground vs Oregon. I also saw this dude get single covered and bent over vs LSU. Not to mention some of the other games when he was a non factor. You can sell me on a defensive player vs a qb, but just as guys are trying to say pass and build the trenches, he better be a big time differnce make all the time and I don't see carter as that guy. If you look at the guys drafted in 2011 before or around those mediocre qb minus cam, they raised hell day 1. Aldon Smith, Von Miller,Patrick Peterson, AJ Green, Julio Jones and Tyron Smith and JJ Watt. All those guys except Smith are hof guys and were freakish at their position. Aldon was a sack per game played, but couldn't keep off the bottle. None of those qbs were anything close to Young and Stroud. If you evaluate and draft the proper qb, your rebuild happens quicker than normal, that's proven.
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Watt wasn't Watt when he was 1st drafted. I'm thinking Carter will be avg to slightly above avg as a rookie and that's a good thing because it will help with the tank to get the QB in 2024 and once Carter gets some experience he will really be ready to roll in 2024. BTW, the draftniks and pro personnel people disagree with you on Carter and are debating whether Carter or Anderson are the best players in the draft. None think any of QB's are the best player in the draft.
 
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Earl34 said:
This is a very good point. Even with the McCown interviews. If you look at when McCown was signed as a 3rd string QB and given a 30 minute press conference. He mentioned Easterby and his plans/goals. This was before they hired Caserio.

So, to your point. It's more believable that Easterby is the one that either got in Cal or Caserio's ear to get McCown on that interview list. I doubt the idea to interview McCown started with the McNairs demanding McCown gets an interview. So, if the owner doesn't use an outside firm like Korn Ferry to compile the list of qualified candidates, it's the GM and even senior management job to compile the list. The fact that McCown got on the interview list twice is more about Easterby and Caserio than the McNairs.
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Yep. You're the gm and your homeboy doesn't have anything to do with roster and football stuff, so they say. Yet, he gets in your ear to give a dude with 0 coaching experience 3 interviews. Then, after all that, you hire Culley because of philosophical differences? He was the puppet of Caserio and Jack. The mere fact they skipped over the oc and dc at Baltimore to chose the wr coach. Who does that?
 
steelbtexan said:
Carter made a big impact after he returned from injury this yr. Not just in the run game but he played well in the games I saw him play in. (Tennessee, Miss St, a very little bit of Kentucky, LSU) put Carter and either Wwilson or Verse on the DL and I can guarantee you that the defense will look much better against the pass and the run. Do this and then go Offense the rest of the draft and the team will be setup to succeed once a QB is drafted in 2024. This is called a long term plan and not a need for instant gratification by picking a middle of the QB pack guy or an outlier QB.

We all want the same thing, we just differ on how to get there and some posters appear to have more patience than others. Hey I think it's going to be hilarious when Young leads the team to 7-10-10-7 seasons and y'all will be doing the same thing y'all did with Derrick. The failure will be everybody's fault from ownership (Which I will agree with because a QB shouldn't have been picked to begin with) to the GM TO whoever the HC is. History will repeat itself like with Carr and now Derrick.
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Talking about history repeating itself. Remember when they had their best stretch run of defense and how the team fared? How far did the Texans go when Jj and all them guys were in their prime. Your defense doesn't have to be great if your qb is. One thing we do know is that in the last 15 years, we've seen teams get to the superbowl with ok defenses more than just ok qb play.
 
leebigeztx said:
Flacco 1st rd pick, Stafford 1st overrall pick after 12 years in Detroit. I guess you knew they would win Superbowls the day they were drafted huh? Again, you're moving the goalposts again as usual.
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I would've guessed Flacco would've won a SB due to the team he had around him and Ozzie. There was no way to know Stafford would be traded, so no I never thought he would win a SB with the Lions and I'm not the poster that brought their names up, so I wasn't moving the goalposts. But now that you mention it what did/do Stafford/Flacco have that Young doesn't have. In fact Levis is the only QB in this draft with their skillset and I really hope Cal doesn't make Caserio pick Levis either.
 
leebigeztx said:
That's true, but Watt also had freakish athleticism. I mean he was a te then de at 6'6 290lbs and ran what a 4.7 or 4.8. He also was the 11th pick not the 1st pick.
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Lets see what numbers Carter puts up at the combine I bet they will be as good or better than Watt's. Not saying Carter will have a Watt type career but he's going to be really good in his own right. Being picked 1 vs 11 only means the GM's screwed up their evals. BTW, Aldon Smith posted better numbers than Watt did at the combine. Except Watt had an exceptional 10 yd split.
 
steelbtexan said:
Lets see what numbers Carter puts up at the combine I bet they will be as good or better than Watt's. Not saying Carter will have a Watt type career but he's going to be really good in his own right. Being picked 1 vs 11 only means the GM's screwed up their evals. BTW, Aldon Smith posted better numbers than Watt did at the combine. Except Watt had an exceptional 10 yd split.
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Aldon was hof bound, but couldn't get out of his own way. You may think I have the same disagreement from a talent basis about Carter as you do Stroud or Young, I don't. I've watched too many times where he was single blocked to the ground by a player that's not even rated high. When you watched Von Miller, Julius Peppers, Warren Sapp, Tommy Harris, Suh, and Gerald McCoy, you didn't see that in college. I don't care who they played against, they were very rarely single blocked and knocked in the ground. These are facts, check the film. If you're going to be the #1 player as a defensive player, you have to be of those guys ilk and I don't think Carter is it. I would prefer Anderson to Carter, Myles Murphy over Carter also. Tyree Wilson pre injury over Carter too.
 
There has been increasing chatter about the Houston Texans making more front-office changes after the season, and multiple executives I have spoken with believe General Manager Nick Caserio is not on nearly as solid footing as he was in the past. Longtime Caserio ally Jack Easterby, a former team chaplain in New England when Caserio was there who rose to become the most influential executive in Houston, was abruptly fired in October. The Texans are the NFL’s lone one-win team and are facing another looming coaching decision; having Caserio fire Lovie Smith one year after also making David Culley a one-and-done seems untenable to some in the NFL agent and executive communities. Starting entirely from scratch might have better optics.

If the Texans do, in fact, believe another coaching change is in order, several general managers I have talked to said they did not think Caserio would be there to fire Smith and be a part of the next hiring cycle. Houston’s rebuild has been agonizing, with signs of progress limited at best, and Houston’s ownership has been erratic since Cal McNair took
over after his father’s death in 2018.

“Keep your eye on that one,” said one high-ranking NFL official who has interviewed with the Texans in the past and knows the organization well but who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he is precluded from discussing other organizations publicly. “I don’t think Nick gets to fire another coach, especially with Easterby gone. I’m hearing there is more to come there.”
 
Texian said:
There has been increasing chatter about the Houston Texans making more front-office changes after the season, and multiple executives I have spoken with believe General Manager Nick Caserio is not on nearly as solid footing as he was in the past. Longtime Caserio ally Jack Easterby, a former team chaplain in New England when Caserio was there who rose to become the most influential executive in Houston, was abruptly fired in October. The Texans are the NFL’s lone one-win team and are facing another looming coaching decision; having Caserio fire Lovie Smith one year after also making David Culley a one-and-done seems untenable to some in the NFL agent and executive communities. Starting entirely from scratch might have better optics.

If the Texans do, in fact, believe another coaching change is in order, several general managers I have talked to said they did not think Caserio would be there to fire Smith and be a part of the next hiring cycle. Houston’s rebuild has been agonizing, with signs of progress limited at best, and Houston’s ownership has been erratic since Cal McNair took
over after his father’s death in 2018.

“Keep your eye on that one,” said one high-ranking NFL official who has interviewed with the Texans in the past and knows the organization well but who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he is precluded from discussing other organizations publicly. “I don’t think Nick gets to fire another coach, especially with Easterby gone. I’m hearing there is more to come there.”
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How often does La Canfora get things like this right?
 
Texian said:
There has been increasing chatter about the Houston Texans making more front-office changes after the season, and multiple executives I have spoken with believe General Manager Nick Caserio is not on nearly as solid footing as he was in the past. Longtime Caserio ally Jack Easterby, a former team chaplain in New England when Caserio was there who rose to become the most influential executive in Houston, was abruptly fired in October. The Texans are the NFL’s lone one-win team and are facing another looming coaching decision; having Caserio fire Lovie Smith one year after also making David Culley a one-and-done seems untenable to some in the NFL agent and executive communities. Starting entirely from scratch might have better optics.

If the Texans do, in fact, believe another coaching change is in order, several general managers I have talked to said they did not think Caserio would be there to fire Smith and be a part of the next hiring cycle. Houston’s rebuild has been agonizing, with signs of progress limited at best, and Houston’s ownership has been erratic since Cal McNair took
over after his father’s death in 2018.

“Keep your eye on that one,” said one high-ranking NFL official who has interviewed with the Texans in the past and knows the organization well but who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he is precluded from discussing other organizations publicly. “I don’t think Nick gets to fire another coach, especially with Easterby gone. I’m hearing there is more to come there.”
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Lucky said:
From an article in the Washington Post by Jason LaCanfora:



"There has been increasing chatter about the Houston Texans making more front-office changes after the season, and multiple executives I’ve spoken with believe GM Nick Caserio is not on nearly as solid footing as he was in the past. Longtime Caserio ally Jack Easterby, a former team chaplain in New England when Caserio was there who rose to become the most influential executive in Houston, was abruptly fired in October. The Texans are the NFL’s lone one-win team and are facing another looming head coaching decision; having Caserio fire Lovie Smith one year after also making David Culley a one-and-done seems untenable to some in the NFL agent and executive communities. Starting entirely from scratch might have better optics.

If the Texans do, in fact, believe another head coaching change is in order, several GMs I’ve talked to said they did not think Caserio would still be there to fire Smith and be a part of the next hiring cycle. Houston’s rebuild has been agonizing, signs of progress have been limited at best, and Houston’s ownership has been erratic since Cal McNair took over after his father’s death in 2018.


“Keep your eye on that one,” said one high-ranking NFL official who has interviewed with the Texans in the past and knows the organization well but who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he is precluded from discussing other organizations publicly. “I don’t think Nick gets to fire another coach, especially with Easterby gone. I’m hearing there is more to come there.”
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JB said:
How often does La Canfora get things like this right?
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I'll guess we'll find out.

I remember Peter King got me excited by saying Jack Easterby was going to be fired.

And he was...a year and a half later.
 
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If there is one strong indicator that Nick Caserio is on the hot seat, it would be the two people responsible for recommending and pushing Cal to hire Caserio have both been fired by Cal.
 
leebigeztx said:
I've watched this dude get gis helmet knocked off and driven to the ground vs Oregon. I also saw this dude get single covered and bent over vs LSU. Not to mention some of the other games when he was a non factor. You can sell me on a defensive player vs a qb, but just as guys are trying to say pass and build the trenches, he better be a big time differnce make all the time and I don't see carter as that guy. If you look at the guys drafted in 2011 before or around those mediocre qb minus cam, they raised hell day 1. Aldon Smith, Von Miller,Patrick Peterson, AJ Green, Julio Jones and Tyron Smith and JJ Watt. All those guys except Smith are hof guys and were freakish at their position. Aldon was a sack per game played, but couldn't keep off the bottle. None of those qbs were anything close to Young and Stroud. If you evaluate and draft the proper qb, your rebuild happens quicker than normal, that's proven.
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Not in Texans history…..when do you expect that to change? Putting that history changing moment on the shoulders of a 5’-9” 178 lb QB? I know some are hoping he’ll be a legit 6’-0” but photos of him standing with Saban (5’-6”) don’t indicate that much of difference in height.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Not in Texans history…..when do you expect that to change? Putting that history changing moment on the shoulders of a 5’-9” 178 lb QB? I know some are hoping he’ll be a legit 6’-0” but photos of him standing with Saban (5’-6”) don’t indicate that much of difference in height.
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thespun.com

Nick Saban Was Asked About Bryce Young's Status Monday

Alabama fans got hit with quite a scare on Saturday afternoon when star quarterback Bryce Young had to leave the game against Arkansas. His shoulder wasn't
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76Texan said:
thespun.com

Nick Saban Was Asked About Bryce Young's Status Monday

Alabama fans got hit with quite a scare on Saturday afternoon when star quarterback Bryce Young had to leave the game against Arkansas. His shoulder wasn't
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For what it's worth:
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How Tall Are Nick Saban's Shoe Inserts?

It's pretty easy to find Nick Saban's height: Saban was a defensive back for the Kent State Golden Flashes for the 1970, 1971, and 1972 seasons and also played for the baseball team in 1972. Every year and for both teams, his height and weight were listed at 5-foot-6, 185 lbs. So he's about...
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OptimisticTexan said:
Not in Texans history…..when do you expect that to change? Putting that history changing moment on the shoulders of a 5’-9” 178 lb QB? I know some are hoping he’ll be a legit 6’-0” but photos of him standing with Saban (5’-6”) don’t indicate that much of difference in height.
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What does that have to do with Carter?
 
Lucky said:
I'll guess we'll find out.

I remember Peter King got me excited by saying Jack Easterby was going to be fired.

And he was...a year and a half later.
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Just because you want something to happen doesn't mean it will and you're right Caserio will eventually be fired. I would say in 2 yrs if improvement isn't being made. I was wondering after everbody's favorite whipping guy (Easterby) was fired, how long it would be before Caserio became the new whipping guy? Florio who I absolutely detest as a human being, answered that question for me.
 
badboy said:
For what it's worth:
deadspin.com

How Tall Are Nick Saban's Shoe Inserts?

It's pretty easy to find Nick Saban's height: Saban was a defensive back for the Kent State Golden Flashes for the 1970, 1971, and 1972 seasons and also played for the baseball team in 1972. Every year and for both teams, his height and weight were listed at 5-foot-6, 185 lbs. So he's about...
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Saban was 5'6" back in his H.S./College days ? Well I think Saban is like 70 now and you know people usually lose a couple inches over the years so he's not even been 5'6" for some time now.
 
badboy said:
For what it's worth:
deadspin.com

How Tall Are Nick Saban's Shoe Inserts?

It's pretty easy to find Nick Saban's height: Saban was a defensive back for the Kent State Golden Flashes for the 1970, 1971, and 1972 seasons and also played for the baseball team in 1972. Every year and for both teams, his height and weight were listed at 5-foot-6, 185 lbs. So he's about...
deadspin.com deadspin.com
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In this Saban-Young picture, Young is wearing cleats. My guess is Bryce Young is 5'9" - 5'10" and weighs approx 185 lbs. The Commish and AD standing behind them are 6'+. We will know soon enough the Combine is just over 2 months away. I should note that last year I projected Matt Corral at 6'0" and 200 lbs and he weighed in at 6'2" and 212 lbs, the same size as Joe Montana.
 
Texian said:
Not necessarily, just the belief that Florio can pick up his iPhone and speed-dial more NFL execs than you can.
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I never said otherwise.

That still doesn't make him anything more than a rumor mongeror. Hence the name of his site.
 
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