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Double Barrel said:
Watch NFL Films and listen to new players speak about when they join a franchise and see the glory of past championships. It matters.

All I'm saying is the teams that have had success have a blueprint to get back to it. They have standards set by past teams.

The Texans have nothing of the sort. They flounder, they huff and puff, and then they send out invoices for season tickets.

We can agree to disagree. Just remember this conversation in the coming years as those three times rise again and the Texans are still looking for a head coach that can win more than he loses.
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there are only a few who have that… the steelers and Ravens….all the success they’ve had can be traced to a blueprint of having stifling defense. they have been defined by their defense for well over 20 years if not their entire existence; its their identity. Alot of the other teams you’re referring to…sure they had a “golden age” at one point where they dominated..but most haven’t really been able to duplicate it as a matter of a “blueprint” largely b/c it was centered around a once in a generation player or 2. 80’s 49ers, 90’s cowboys etc.

but its not uncommon for most franchises to have 20 plus years go by where they’re not doing much more than the Texans have in their existence. KC is on now…before Mahomes tho they hadn’t seen any of the sustained success they’re seeing now since the friggin 60’s with Len Dawson. Same for the Pats in between that 80’s team that got smoked by the Bears and Belichick/Brady.
 
Mr teX said:
there are only a few who have that… the steelers and Ravens….all the success they’ve had can be traced to a blueprint of having stifling defense. they have been defined by their defense for well over 20 years if not their entire existence; its their identity. Alot of the other teams you’re referring to…sure they had a “golden age” at one point where they dominated..but most haven’t really been able to duplicate it as a matter of a “blueprint” largely b/c it was centered around a once in a generation player or 2. 80’s 49ers, 90’s cowboys etc.

but its not uncommon for most franchises to have 20 plus years go by where they’re not doing much more than the Texans have in their existence. KC is on now…before Mahomes tho they hadn’t seen any of the sustained success they’re seeing now since the friggin 60’s with Len Dawson. Same for the Pats in between that 80’s team that got smoked by the Bears and Belichick/Brady.
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Don’t forget the Packers decades of mediocrity, or the Saints, or the Bucs who I believe started off even worse than we did
 
Mr teX said:
Bills just broke their streak of missing the playoffs in 2019…went nearly 20years in between playoff appearances.
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We still have more playoff wins than the Bills this century, the Jets have had one winning season in the last 10 years, the Cowboys have somehow won fewer playoff games than us this century, the Steelers have less playoff wins than us since 2011, overall we have more playoff wins this century than 10 NFL teams, and we have more playoff wins since 2011 than 16 NFL teams.

There are a boatload of storied franchises that have had less playoff success than us since our inception but we have a ton of fans who act like we’ve been dumpster diving for our entire existence.

Don’t get me wrong we have not been a successful franchise, I’m not satisfied with what we’ve done as a fan, and of course we’re in a terrible spot right now but perspective is needed.
 
My perspective is ownership has always sucked and will continue to suck. The only way the Texans will win a championship will be through pure luck.
 
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Bored at work waiting for my boss to send me something so screw it I'll take a look at a few more

Chiefs didn't win a playoff game throughout the entirety of the 70's and 80's. They had a mildly successful 90's making the playoffs but they went 1 and done mostly. They made the playoffs 4 times between 1998 and 2014 and didn't win a single playoff game. Then came the Andy Reid/Mahomes era and obviously they've been killing it since then. Point being they had no real sustained success between 1970 and 2014 winning only 3 total playoff games in that span.

The Seahawks were one of the more successful franchises of the 2010's. Their first 20 years they had 3 playoff wins and they went 20 years from 1985-2005 without winning a single playoff game.

Looking around the league outside of the Steelers and Ravens I'm having trouble finding any teams that didn't have at least a decade or two of misery.
 
steelbtexan said:
My perspective is ownership has always sucked and will continue to suck. The only way the Texans will win a championship will be through pure luck.
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Honestly, i dont know of an owner that doesnt suck. None of these guys are as plugged into their teams as we are..the ones that are? 1 is facing lawsuits out the ass and about to be forced to sell his team & the otger is a serial meddler and quite despised up in the DFW area.

fans cant decide what level of involvement they want their owners…pretty much like in politics…Americans cant decide what level of involvement they want the fed.
 
steelbtexan said:
My perspective is ownership has always sucked and will continue to suck. The only way the Texans will win a championship will be through pure luck.
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That’s the nature of the NFL. You roll the dice until you strike lightning, then ride the wave as long as you can.
 
thunderkyss said:
This is the problem with tanking. How many vets have this attitude? How long before this draft class acquire this attitude?

This quickly becomes a job. A job nobody wants to come to. Nobody cares about being great, nobody cares about winning.

By 2024 you’ll have to purge the guys you drafted in 2022.
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Cooks didn't have that attitude until Easterby was fired. Don't buy into his bs
 
TexansBull said:
I appreciate your ability to disagree with me.

I don’t think Tyreek Hill went to the Dolphins because they had an undefeated season and won the Super Bowl. I don’t think Brady went to Tampa for their one Super Bowl they won. It’s about money. Always about money.

That blueprint to get to the Super Bowl wasn’t what Tampa used that got them there the first time. Or Denver. This league has evolved even from when Manning won his first Super Bowl. What Indy did then isn’t going to do it if they want to get back. The only person that may not have to adjust is maybe Belicheck? But even then how will he catch lightning in a bottle like he did with Brady?

I can’t buy in on the blueprint theory. Kansas City may be able to employ that theory because they were just there. They have an advantage over Buffalo. But a team that hasn’t won one recently has an out dated blueprint.

What the Steelers did with Rothlesberger ain’t working now. Or what the Jets did with Joe Namath. Or Denver with Manning/Elway. Which that team will prove my point eventually. I don’t think they will get a Championship with Wilson. Nothing going right there.

To win a Super Bowl so much depends on health, luck and timing.
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I agree to much of what you say, but the point I disagree with is ownership/management. Most of the teams that have won superbowls have the same ownership they have in their non superbowl years. Most superbowl winners past and present with legacy have good ownership. Nobody thinks the Steelers will be down long because of their ownership. The Giants have had the same ownership also throghout their 4 superbowls. They had a little bit of instability in the coaching ranks, but they've seemed to right the ship for now because ownership made the proper hire. JMO
 
leebigeztx said:
I agree to much of what you say, but the point I disagree with is ownership/management. Most of the teams that have won superbowls have the same ownership they have in their non superbowl years. Most superbowl winners past and present with legacy have good ownership. Nobody thinks the Steelers will be down long because of their ownership. The Giants have had the same ownership also throghout their 4 superbowls. They had a little bit of instability in the coaching ranks, but they've seemed to right the ship for now because ownership made the proper hire. JMO
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Most teams haven't changed ownership.
 
steelbtexan said:
However orgs that have systems when it comes to the draft/FA that are consistently upper echelon teams.
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I get that. But even those teams luck their way into those situations. I mean there was two decades of suck in all those “upper echelon teams”

every one of them.

granted since they did it right before it might be easier for them to spot when they’ve struck gold. & it might be that they good management skills to not screw it up.


The Steelers are the only team I can think of that has consistently done things a particular way for a long time with some success. Then you could say New England but we know they lucked into Belichick & everything changed after Belichick. Ravens, they were doing well, but their “process” changed after Ozzie.

Broncos, Raiders, Cowboys their success are figments of overzealous fans.
 
thunderkyss said:
I get that. But even those teams luck their way into those situations. I mean there was two decades of suck in all those “upper echelon teams”

every one of them.

granted since they did it right before it might be easier for them to spot when they’ve struck gold. & it might be that they good management skills to not screw it up.


The Steelers are the only team I can think of that has consistently done things a particular way for a long time with some success. Then you could say New England but we know they lucked into Belichick & everything changed after Belichick. Ravens, they were doing well, but their “process” changed after Ozzie.

Broncos, Raiders, Cowboys their success are figments of overzealous fans.
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The Patriots too.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
This is all I need to hear to know what type of effort I can expect from Cooks.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1590790527628169216
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“I want to win now.”

Ok… so what are you going to do to win now? Sit around and pout that you can’t go to a team where you’re not one of the best players to make it easier? Or are you going to prove you’re one of the best players in the league worthy of the contract you willingly signed and help the team you are on win games?

I think we have our answer. Cooks doesn’t want to earn that guaranteed money.
 
TheRealJoker said:
“I want to win now.”

Ok… so what are you going to do to win now? Sit around and pout that you can’t go to a team where you’re not one of the best players to make it easier? Or are you going to prove you’re one of the best players in the league worthy of the contract you willingly signed and help the team you are on win games?

I think we have our answer. Cooks doesn’t want to earn that guaranteed money.
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I'm very disappointed in Cooks
 
Earl34 said:
He was the face of Easterby's culture change BS. Great job Jack!
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In the second year of Caserio’s tenure he is still dealing with the damage of OB and Easterby’s reign of terror.

When people question Caserio and why the rebuild is taking long this is why.

You can’t compare other team’s rebuild timeline to the Texans. The Texans were left a dumpster fire floating in a flood in nuclear wasteland by OB and Easterby and Watson.
 
TheRealJoker said:
“I want to win now.”

Ok… so what are you going to do to win now? Sit around and pout that you can’t go to a team where you’re not one of the best players to make it easier? Or are you going to prove you’re one of the best players in the league worthy of the contract you willingly signed and help the team you are on win games?

I think we have our answer. Cooks doesn’t want to earn that guaranteed money.
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My question is why hasn’t a reporter asked the following

1. If you wanted to win now why did you sign a contract extension with a team that was clearly early in a rebuild

2. Given that you have had issues with other franchises and have been among the most traded players in history do you feel there’s a common denominator here?

3. Do you believe the dropped balls that have plagued you this season as well as your overall lack of production compared to last year has contributed to this teams lack of success?

I feel like all of this drama is masking the fact that Cooks has not been good. He has dropped touchdowns, crucial first downs, and has completely failed to help out a young QB the way a WR1 should. I don’t know what happened but at this point I’m over the guy.
 
steelbtexan said:
My perspective is ownership has always sucked and will continue to suck. The only way the Texans will win a championship will be through pure luck.
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Bobby was a legit terrible person, even if you don't count being a garbage NFL owner. Not sure what Cal is like, but he has been duped by grifters like Easterby.

I am glad that the Astros are doing so well. Hopefully they get enough power in the city to break the McNair and RodeoHouston stranglehold on entertainment in Houston.
 
TexansBull said:
In the second year of Caserio’s tenure he is still dealing with the damage of OB and Easterby’s reign of terror.

When people question Caserio and why the rebuild is taking long this is why.

You can’t compare other team’s rebuild timeline to the Texans. The Texans were left a dumpster fire floating in a flood in nuclear wasteland by OB and Easterby and Watson.
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true but Nicky reworked Brandin Cook's contract.
 
JB said:
Chargers have waived 2019 1st round pick DT Jerry Tillery. Any interest here? Would he improve our DL? @beerlover ?
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He’s a massive load but slow off the line. Good for one or two explosive plays then just shuts it down. Last I checked 6 page thread of don’t let the door it you in the ….He was available @ trade deadline but no takers.
 
TexansBull said:
In the second year of Caserio’s tenure he is still dealing with the damage of OB and Easterby’s reign of terror.

When people question Caserio and why the rebuild is taking long this is why.

You can’t compare other team’s rebuild timeline to the Texans. The Texans were left a dumpster fire floating in a flood in nuclear wasteland by OB and Easterby and Watson.
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Why did Nick re-up Cooks when he didn't have to? If you tell me it was Jack's call, then Caserio is weaker than I originally thought. Why did they let Cooks speak or have a presser after his pout? Yet, they just put their head in the sand and act like nothing was going on.
 
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