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DW4 Traded to Cleveland

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steelbtexan said:
He wanted a minority GM.

Sorry I didn't make that clear.
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Go read the post. He said black/african american, not minority. None of the teams involved in the trade except the Browns had a minority gm and none had a minority coach. You talking out both sides of your neck.
 
leebigeztx said:
Go read the post. He said black/african american, not minority. None of the teams involved in the trade except the Browns had a minority gm and none had a minority coach. You talking out both sides of your neck.
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I'm certainly not going to change your mind.

If you want to give asexual predator and proven liar the benefit of the doubt then that's your perrogative.
 
steelbtexan said:
I'm certainly not going to change your mind.

If you want to give asexual predator and proven liar the benefit of the doubt then that's your perrogative.
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No benefit of the doubt, just facts. Look it up and tell me the minority Mulagetta and Watson is supressing in a league owned and operated by all white men and part of a firm that has white dudes in management.
 
leebigeztx said:
No benefit of the doubt, just facts. Look it up and tell me the minority Mulagetta and Watson is supressing in a league owned and operated by all white men and part of a firm that has white dudes in management.
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DM is supressing anybody

But look at his client list and his/Avery's actions in the Derrick mess.
 
steelbtexan said:
DM is supressing anybody

But look at his client list and his/Avery's actions in the Derrick mess.
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You remember the qb club spearheaded by Leigh Steinberg in the 80s. Who was in that club? All white qbs until Moon came in. So I guess Athletes 1st has agents who only deal with white guys and agents who only deal with black guys huh? Why would France and them guys get involved and build a agency with a so called racist?
 
Well, if you were going to create a Deshuan Watson "Racist/Not racist" chart with examples supporting one side or the other.. One thing you can put under the "Not racist" side is that when it came to victim selection, the man most certainly did not discriminate. Honestly I don't care if he's racist or not.. At the end of the day, he's just and always will be a sick disgusting lowlife P.O.S. Hell, only being considered a racist would actually be a step up for him..
 
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JB said:
On July 21, 2022, the Cleveland Browns signed Rosen to a one-year contract.[100] They terminated his contract on August 30,[101] before signing him to their practice squad on September 1.[102] He was released on October 10, 2022.[103]
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I agree with your timeline and when training camp opened in July, Rosen was on the roster, he practiced with Watson. There are photos with Rosen and Watson on the practice field. So, doesn't the photos dispel that rumor? That is my point.

Also, Rosen was released to make room for a LB who is needed to help an injury plague defense but that doesn't mean he was cut for racist reasons. Call me naive, but I'm just not buying that a player can demand an African American QB room and a team with a white billionaire owner would allow a player to set such a ridiculous, divisive precedence. It's just too insane.
 
JB said:
That's what I thought about a single player going outside the team to pay for 60+ massages.
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Touche. Agree and I will counter with a player making such an insane, ridiculous, divisive and controversial demand, it would be reported more places than just on a mid-market, mediocre NFL team forum. Hell, if people can find out what is being said between Watson, the Browns and even his girlfriend, they should have used that super power to get him indicted.

No disrespect intended and I reserve the right to change my mind. But I need more validation before simply repeating or taking this race rumor as gospel truth. Our posts got moved to this thread. It was never my intention to get on this conversation or thread. I need to do a better job checking my alerts. On that note. I'm out. Go Astros!
 
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TexansBull said:
I am not an expert in black peoples but know enough that Khan ain’t black.
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When the insider posted Watson wanted everything black, I pointed out the Steelers players personel guy wasn't black. So it went from wanting everyone black to he just wanted minorities. That's why I threw out Jacksonville as a joke.
 
amazing80 said:
LOL Watson agreed to go play for the Browns who have a white HC and OC. Keep selling that racism Steel, all you are good for these days.
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They wont be around much longer. If they're fired after this season, would you hire Stefanski if you were the McNair's.

BTW, CnD put this info out there not me. I just believe it to be true. So if you have an issue take it up with him.
 
JB said:
They're missing Chase
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Remember, the receiver never makes the QB. Although it’s pretty interesting how Tua has suddenly lit the NFL up after Hill’s arrival. Same could be said for Hurts after Brown’s arrival. As for Burrow, he is suddenly just a Chase away from being an NFL dreg.
 
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leebigeztx said:
He was wrong, sources were wrong, but carry on.
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I misspoke regarding a peripheral statement I made re. an NFL GM (Khan minority vs. Black). And my source regarding Flores regarding his agent representation was not correct. I admitted to both. But, let's not try to negate my principal statements pertinent to Watson's and Mulugheta's demands on the Texans..........those statements came from impeccable organization sources.
 
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steelbtexan said:
They wont be around much longer. If they're fired after this season, would you hire Stefanski if you were the McNair's.

BTW, CnD put this info out there not me. I just believe it to be true. So if you have an issue take it up with him.
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I think Watson is going to struggle to start but will turn it on before the end of the year. I think Stefanski and Watson will do well together.

As for CND and his sources, I respect him, but always take his source information with a grain of salt.
 
amazing80 said:
I think Watson is going to struggle to start but will turn it on before the end of the year. I think Stefanski and Watson will do well together.

As for CND and his sources, I respect him, but always take his source information with a grain of salt.
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I hope he leaves nrg on a stretcher and that will be the end of this pervs career.
 
amazing80 said:
I think Watson is going to struggle to start but will turn it on before the end of the year. I think Stefanski and Watson will do well together.

As for CND and his sources, I respect him, but always take his source information with a grain of salt.
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The Texans are the perfectly crappy warm up team to make sure he re-enters the NFL with a new highlight reel and we'll be forced to choke on them all week on ESPN and NFLN. I expect a slobberfest from all the doofus talking heads. I'll probably just avoid the sports shows when he returns.

As far as CnD, I have absolutely no doubt about his integrity and honesty and he's only reporting what he's been told. But, like you, I can only vouch for him, not his sources.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Nick came into a really F’d up situation. Come on 76. We all knew him or any other GM wouldn’t have cleaned this crap up that quickly. It’s going to take at least another 2 years or more to fix what Janice and Cal messed up.
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Janice and Cal’s mistake was putting OB and Easterby in charge.

OB, Easterby, and Watson screwed this franchise. OB trading away picks for Tunsil, getting a ham sandwich for Hopkins, Easterby and his help in writing contracts, and Watson.

Especially Watson. Backing out of a contract several months after signing. Then holding this franchise hostage for a year.
 
TexansBull said:
Janice and Cal’s mistake was putting OB and Easterby in charge.

OB, Easterby, and Watson screwed this franchise. OB trading away picks for Tunsil, getting a ham sandwich for Hopkins, Easterby and his help in writing contracts, and Watson.

Especially Watson. Backing out of a contract several months after signing. Then holding this franchise hostage for a year.
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TBull I never seen anything like this in any professional sports.
 
TexansBull said:
Janice and Cal’s mistake was putting OB and Easterby in charge.

OB, Easterby, and Watson screwed this franchise. OB trading away picks for Tunsil, getting a ham sandwich for Hopkins, Easterby and his help in writing contracts, and Watson.

Especially Watson. Backing out of a contract several months after signing. Then holding this franchise hostage for a year.
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You forgot to mention the guy who drafted the morally corrupt Derrick. I can make a case that if Derrick hadn't been drafted that the team would have been in a much better place now.

BTW, I said he shouldn't have been drafted at that time.
 
steelbtexan said:
Kelly was kept on to try to appease Derrick. Again, not a Caserio decision.
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Soon as Esterbunny and Cal hopped in that jet to get Caserio, what did Watson say? Now whether or not they believed it, it was up to them. If a dude after the gm is hired says he wants out, why would anyone think keeping Kelly or hiring the most unqualified black coach availible would change his thought process especially with a no trade? If Caserio thought that, then he's not a smart man and I know he's a smart guy.
 
leebigeztx said:
Soon as Esterbunny and Cal hopped in that jet to get Caserio, what did Watson say? Now whether or not they believed it, it was up to them. If a dude after the gm is hired says he wants out, why would anyone think keeping Kelly or hiring the most unqualified black coach availible would change his thought process especially with a no trade? If Caserio thought that, then he's not a smart man and I know he's a smart guy.
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I dont think watson had anything personal against the NC hire or NC himself..he said as much i think…i truly just believe once he signed his deal, he felt like he had more influence than he actually did….…and alot of folks inside and outside of the org also started getting into his ear about Easterby..& where they thought the org was going. Im sure he pow wowed with Texans greats who effectively had wasted their prime years here and now regretted it…AJ…Nuk….now JJ…they likely told him “if i were you…”

So at that dinner with Cal he tried to flex, Cal probably told him that they were exploring candidates…some of which he knew about (Omar Khan) but that they were still looking. It was like a day or 2 later the rumor leaked that NC was gonna get the gig…and he knew nothing about it…and what was probably worse in his eyes is that it was another patriots guy……. connected to Easterby. thats when he started tweeting about loyalty and organizations and ****.

Of course he didnt have much time to draw sympathy from anyone b/c those civil suits were about to start dropping lol:
 
leebigeztx said:
Soon as Esterbunny and Cal hopped in that jet to get Caserio, what did Watson say? Now whether or not they believed it, it was up to them. If a dude after the gm is hired says he wants out, why would anyone think keeping Kelly or hiring the most unqualified black coach availible would change his thought process especially with a no trade? If Caserio thought that, then he's not a smart man and I know he's a smart guy.
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Can you think of a good reason to keep Kelly?
 
Mr teX said:
I dont think watson had anything personal against the NC hire or NC himself..he said as much i think…i truly just believe once he signed his deal, he felt like he had more influence than he actually did….…and alot of folks inside and outside of the org also started getting into his ear about Easterby..& where they thought the org was going. Im sure he pow wowed with Texans greats who effectively had wasted their prime years here and now regretted it…AJ…Nuk….now JJ…they likely told him “if i were you…”

So at that dinner with Cal he tried to flex, Cal probably told him that they were exploring candidates…some of which he knew about (Omar Khan) but that they were still looking. It was like a day or 2 later the rumor leaked that NC was gonna get the gig…and he knew nothing about it…and what was probably worse in his eyes is that it was another patriots guy……. connected to Easterby. thats when he started tweeting about loyalty and organizations and ****.

Of course he didnt have much time to draw sympathy from anyone b/c those civil suits were about to start dropping lol:
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Or the fact that he had just signed a 156 mil contract that wanted to get out of.
 
leebigeztx said:
Soon as Esterbunny and Cal hopped in that jet to get Caserio, what did Watson say? Now whether or not they believed it, it was up to them. If a dude after the gm is hired says he wants out, why would anyone think keeping Kelly or hiring the most unqualified black coach availible would change his thought process especially with a no trade? If Caserio thought that, then he's not a smart man and I know he's a smart guy.
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Hey remember this was after they had lunch together. Lol Cal basically lied to the man to his face. But that still doesn’t excuse his antics behind the scene.
 
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