I disagree that Johnson is more of an olb first off, second off I don't know how that would even put him on the field a ton more than a full on plug and play player.
Thirdly I haven't a clue what Walker has to do with it, so just ok I guess.
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I disagree that Johnson is more of an olb first off, second off I don't know how that would even put him on the field a ton more than a full on plug and play player.
Thirdly I haven't a clue what Walker has to do with it, so just ok I guess.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
100% agree with this post. The 2022 NFL Draft is the draft where teams can draft the player they want, where they want. This should be the draft that cancels the rule of thumb or unwritten rules in regards to how positions are drafted and when they are drafted. This draft is deep with players that will make starting lineups on Day 1 or before mid-season.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
To me this draft starts going different directions at 13.
At 3 i’m fairly confident its Ickey or Neal. With Hutch taking priority if he finds his way to 3.
But 13 is interesting because I find it highly unlikely they stay at 13. And i’m not sure whether they are moving up or down. Lets say a prospect they have top 5 on their big board drops to 8 range… To put a name next to someone they have been linked to lets say Kayvon Thibodeaux or Hamilton. I could see them packaging picks they have from this year and next year to go get their guy. Drafttek trade value chart say 13 and 68 is equal to pick 8.
But the more likely (and preferred by me) scenario is they gain an extra second by moving into the low 20s. Gives them another premium pick to get an impact player while still being in position to gain a core player.
3) Ikem
13) Trade and then the draft begins.
That’s my final mock right now… but I wont mock trades because it gets too convoluted so i’ll pick someone at 13 for simplicities sake haha
At 3 i’m fairly confident its Ickey or Neal. With Hutch taking priority if he finds his way to 3.
But 13 is interesting because I find it highly unlikely they stay at 13. And i’m not sure whether they are moving up or down. Lets say a prospect they have top 5 on their big board drops to 8 range… To put a name next to someone they have been linked to lets say Kayvon Thibodeaux or Hamilton. I could see them packaging picks they have from this year and next year to go get their guy. Drafttek trade value chart say 13 and 68 is equal to pick 8.
But the more likely (and preferred by me) scenario is they gain an extra second by moving into the low 20s. Gives them another premium pick to get an impact player while still being in position to gain a core player.
3) Ikem
13) Trade and then the draft begins.
That’s my final mock right now… but I wont mock trades because it gets too convoluted so i’ll pick someone at 13 for simplicities sake haha
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This is one of the first drafts I can think of there isn't a consensus anything at any position. Maybe Hutchinson, but even that is up in the air. Great thing for the Texans. Yeah I would love to trade back and get some more picks because of that, but I don't think that will happen. Sure there will always be the "They should have drafted "x" at "x" in hindsight, but anyone who says that this year is being disingenuous. This is a great draft for a team that needs every position. A good overall team building drat because there is no QB worth a high pick, comparatively.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Drafttek posted their final adjusted big board yesterday.
They have Kenyon Green listed at #37.
If he is still there at #30, Texans need to move up and get him. They will need to jump ahead of Cincy to get him so KC at #30 will be the target.
KC get #37, #107 and #183.
Texans get #30 (Kenyon Green.)
That's if they don't trade #13 down.
They have Kenyon Green listed at #37.
If he is still there at #30, Texans need to move up and get him. They will need to jump ahead of Cincy to get him so KC at #30 will be the target.
KC get #37, #107 and #183.
Texans get #30 (Kenyon Green.)
That's if they don't trade #13 down.
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Texansballer74
The Marine
Pass. I’m not giving up that much for a player in the second round.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
I know Green has slid down a bit, but he was entrenched in the mid twenties until just recently.
I like the idea of Neal/Ekwonu at #3, Johnson/Davis at #13 and Green at #30.
Our Oline would receive an instant upgrade and the foundation is laid for our Oline for years to come and our D also gets an upgrade.
banned1976
sleeper mode
I feel like the Texans will use their first three picks on rebuilding the trenches. I know a lot of people want the Texans to draft a CB and a RB early but I guess I don't understand that philospohy, especially the RB (Breece Hall) in the second. RB's, in general have a short shelf life. At the least the first year will be hard running for that young running back if you don't have the horses up front to block for him/them. I get wanting to help your young QB and one of the best ways to help is with a solid running game but again, if you can't block up front you're going to get into 3rd and long, not to mention no one is really sure if Mills is the guy.
Start the rebuild by drafting guys you feel strongly will be here for the long haul...8+ years down the line. The odds are better at finding those guys in the front 7 and o-line.
Drafting a CB early makes more sense than a running back early second round. Even then, if you can't stop the run, what's the point in having one good corner? Your going to get attacked up the middle, in the flats, or down the seams. Opposing offenses will have the luxury of just avoiding Sauce.
Start the rebuild by drafting guys you feel strongly will be here for the long haul...8+ years down the line. The odds are better at finding those guys in the front 7 and o-line.
Drafting a CB early makes more sense than a running back early second round. Even then, if you can't stop the run, what's the point in having one good corner? Your going to get attacked up the middle, in the flats, or down the seams. Opposing offenses will have the luxury of just avoiding Sauce.
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Texansballer74
The Marine
We couldn’t stop neither. That’s why I believe they will use two of their first three picks on defense. They probably trade back that thirteen pick for a first and a late second. That way they could go 2 defensive players and 2 offensive players.
CB
DE
RB
OG
It doesn’t have to be in that order. But we do know Lovie expressed the concerns for better production from the cornerbacks position and the running backs position. The players we’ve acquired through FA doesn’t move that needle IMO.
Nick Caserio stated the coaches input is important. So I surely hope he wasn’t just blowing smoke.
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Texansphan
Football connoisseur
RBs are a bit of a gamble - just like any other position but trading for old ones is not wise or even good value. Best value for them is to get a new hungry young buck from the draft - you can get good value in the mid rounds for them.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
Reports I have seen have the 1st pick being one of the following 4 players.
Hutchinson
Walker
Tib
Ikem Ekwonu
With an honorable mention for:
Neil (not sure why he was the top guy for OL a week or so ago)
With many thinking Walker will be #1 due to his freakishly scary athletic abilities. Jags have always liked stuff like that. It has also been said that he can be a Pro Bowl player in 1 or 2 years once he gets a bit better with his hands and pad level. They claim his ceiling is higher than the other Edge players. Do I agree? Not 100% but if he can learn how to use his hands and a few pass rush moves...he will be a stud no question. Best in class I'm not sure. You can find this information by Google
Travon Walker Scouting Reports
OR
Jags want Travon Walker
Both pull up some good reading on why some are starting to lean toward him.
Also, anyone want to take Jordan Davis at 13? https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jordan-davis/32004441-5648-7265-ac02-99b487d4f3e4
This guy maybe worth a long look at 341lbs moving like he is 220 and taking up multiple blocks and still making plays. He is a beast just not sure a true DT or NT
Hutchinson
Walker
Tib
Ikem Ekwonu
With an honorable mention for:
Neil (not sure why he was the top guy for OL a week or so ago)
With many thinking Walker will be #1 due to his freakishly scary athletic abilities. Jags have always liked stuff like that. It has also been said that he can be a Pro Bowl player in 1 or 2 years once he gets a bit better with his hands and pad level. They claim his ceiling is higher than the other Edge players. Do I agree? Not 100% but if he can learn how to use his hands and a few pass rush moves...he will be a stud no question. Best in class I'm not sure. You can find this information by Google
Travon Walker Scouting Reports
OR
Jags want Travon Walker
Both pull up some good reading on why some are starting to lean toward him.
Also, anyone want to take Jordan Davis at 13? https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jordan-davis/32004441-5648-7265-ac02-99b487d4f3e4
This guy maybe worth a long look at 341lbs moving like he is 220 and taking up multiple blocks and still making plays. He is a beast just not sure a true DT or NT
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
I have seen multiple "experts" having us take a RB in the 2nd. But mixed styles. A few are workhorse 210lb min bulls and a few 195-205 speed backs with good hands. I would rather a mix of speed and power like Hall, Walker III or Pierce
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Worth a watch in the spirit of the draft.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Been thinking about it a bit more and i’m concerned the run on edge will be done before 13. I am interested in moving up to 8 if it only costs 68. If the Texans could secure Jermaine Johnson I would make that deal. I think Kayvon/Trayvon/Johnson will all be gone by 13. And i’d like to secure Lovie’s pick of the pass rushers rather than hope one falls to 13.
I also have those three a notch higher than the next tier like Ebiketie, Mafe and Karlaftis and want Lovie to get his guy at the most important position on his defense.
EX: I’d rather have Jermaine Johnson and a guy like Coby Bryant at pick 80 than a 1st round CB paired with a 3rd or 4th round pass rusher.
I also have those three a notch higher than the next tier like Ebiketie, Mafe and Karlaftis and want Lovie to get his guy at the most important position on his defense.
EX: I’d rather have Jermaine Johnson and a guy like Coby Bryant at pick 80 than a 1st round CB paired with a 3rd or 4th round pass rusher.
Funny.
Even though Thibodeaux & Hamilton were bonafide top 5 picks when the cfb season ended, I don’t think anyone here would be happy if the Texans trade up to get them.
The thinking is that one of them should slide to 13.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Agreed. SHOULD is left for message board fodder to suit their dream scenario mock drafts. If a player is top 5 on my board and i’m a GM I will give up 68 to secure my long term core player.
“But the picks! Value later! Blah blah blah”
As it stands if Texans take Ikem or Neal at 3 then I would start trying to move up for Jermaine Johnson, Kyle Hamilton and maybe even Kayvon Clowney… maybe throw in a 4th instead of a 3rd if he was the one left haha
*disclaimer if I left off your favorite player often mentioned top 5 its because I don’t think they slip past 5.and pick 68 is the steepest price i’ll pay to move up.
I know it’s not what you mean, but this makes it look like the Texans gave up three assets to get two assets.
That’s one thing that gets me. Guys like Kiper & Mayock are good at what they do. Evaluating college talent & projecting NFL futures.
But they have no idea how to build a team or manage a roster.
This idea is the better player should be drafted 1st misses the reality that it’s a subjective assessment that doesn’t account for the reality of the team situation
Instead they incorporate speculation of the team’s situation.
I think Mayock found out how drastically a teams philosophy alters “best player”
If he goes back to TV & draft commentary his experience will have improved the way he projects the draft.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Would you move up to get Sauce
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Yes, he’s in the disclaimer category. I don’t see him making it out of the top 5.
ghostlight
Veteran
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Since when is #30 in the second round?
Put Green and Neal on the same side of the OL and the run game automatically improves.
Would you like a draft that looked like this?
Neal
Booth
Green
Sam Williams
Ruckert
White
Texansballer74
The Marine
Texansballer74
The Marine
We don’t know that for sure. One could easily be a bust.
I've watched Green since high school. I would bet the farm that he's a 10 yr starter if healthy. I've got Neal as the best player in this draft. So the bust potential of these guys is very low. IMHO
Of course you could say what you're saying about any drafted prospect.
Texansballer74
The Marine
He’s projected to go mid first round. He won’t be there at 30 anyways.
I would trade back that 13 with the Saints and draft hm with the 19th pick.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Yeah lol. I should have put KG in brackets( ).
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
2022 NFL Draft preview: Scouting the defensive line
John McClain, Correspondent
April 24, 2022
Texans' needs
Coach Lovie Smith, who oversees the defense, has three starters returning on the line — end Jonathan Greenard and tackles Maliek Collins and Roy Lopez. They need another edge rusher desperately to play opposite Greenard, who had a breakout second season with a team-high eight sacks in 12 games. General manager Nick Caserio could use the third overall pick on an edge rusher like Travon Walker or Kayvon Thibodeaux. If not with the third pick, Caserio could fill the need with the 13th overall selection, possibly Jermaine Johnson II. Either way, Caserio is expected to use a first-round draft choice on an edge rusher because Smith’s defense requires the linemen to pressure the passer rather than relying too much on blitzing.
Overall
The defensive line, particularly edge rushers, is the most talented and deepest position in the draft. There are seven linemen, including five edge rushers, projected to go in the first round. Sixteen could be selected in the first three rounds.
Aidan Hutchinson, DE, 6-6, 260, Michigan
The highest-rated player on many draft boards is expected to be drafted first by the Jaguars unless they foolishly pass him up, which means the Lions would take him second and keep him in the state. Recorded a school-record 14 sacks last season to go with 15 tackles for loss. Won just about every award but the Heisman Trophy. Ran the 40 in 4.74. A high-motor player who can dip under pass protectors coming off the edge or overpower them. Splendid closing burst and works hard against the run.
Travon Walker, DE, 6-5, 272, Georgia
Some mocks have him going first overall even though he’s not a dynamic pass rusher. Had only nine sacks, including six last season, in three seasons with the Bulldogs. Put on a show at the combine, including a 4.51 40-yard dash. In college, he played outside and inside and sometimes dropped into coverage. In the NFL, he could play end or tackle. Outstanding against the run. Knows how to use his hands to get leverage, has the strength to shed blockers but needs to improve as a pass rusher. Should go high in the first round.
Kayvon Thibodeaux, DE, 6-4, 254, Oregon
Before and during the season, he was projected as the first overall pick, but his performance didn’t match up to his ability. He battled through an ankle injury and finished with seven sacks and 12 tackles for loss in 10 games. Ran the 40 in 4.58. Has quickness off the ball and speed off the edge. Good closing burst to the quarterback. Plays the run well. Developed a reputation for taking plays off. Building his brand is important to him, which scares some general managers. Should be among the top-10 picks and possibly the top five.
Jermaine Johnson II, DE, 6-5, 254, Florida State
After playing two seasons in junior college and two at Georgia, he transferred to the Seminoles last season and developed into a first-round prospect. Registered 12 sacks and 18 tackles for loss. Was voted ACC Defensive Player of the Year. Proved he could stop the run and get after the quarterback. The Senior Bowl was his coming-out party. He consistently dominated the offensive tackles. Ran a 4.58 40 and showed the instincts, quickness and work ethic to excel at the next level. Should go in the top half of the first round.
Jordan Davis, DT, 6-6, 341, Georgia
After he ran the 40 in 4.78 at the combine, more general managers took notice. An incredible physical specimen built with size, quickness, speed and athleticism. Outstanding against the run. A powerful base allows him to fire off the ball and move mountains. If he’s on the nose, he can take on two blockers. If he’s in a four-man front, he can overpower guards. Wasn’t much of a pass rusher in college. Had only two sacks and 5 ½ tackles for loss in 14 games last season. Should go in the middle of the first round.
Devonte Wyatt, DT, 6-3, 304, Georgia
Like teammate Jordan Davis, Wyatt is a powerful run stopper who needs work as a pass rusher. Ran a 4.77 at the combine. With the right coaching and technique, he can improve as a rusher at the next level after registering only 2 ½ sacks last season. He’s got quickness, strength and agility. Hard to knock off his feet. Knows how to gain leverage, keep his feet moving and shed blockers. Should go in the bottom half of the first round.
George Karlaftis, DE, 6-4, 261, Purdue
A native of Greece, he excelled late in his high school career and continued that excellence at Purdue. Had 11 ½ tackles for loss and five sacks last season when he consistently battled double-team blocks. Plays with the kind of consistent effort general managers covet. He has some moves and knows how to use his strong hands and lower-body strength. Plays hard against the run. Should go in the bottom half of the first round.
Stock rising
Arnold Ebiketie, DE, 6-3, 250, Penn State
A former soccer player from Cameroon who blossomed as a senior last season when he recorded 9 ½ sacks and 18 tackles for loss. He has terrific quickness and balance. His soccer background is evident in his footwork. Might be best as outside linebacker in a 3-4 who drops to rush in passing situations. Needs to get stronger and gain weight. Should go in the second round.
Stock falling
DeMarvin Leal, DE/DT, 6-4, 283, Texas A&M
Last season, he was projected as a first-round pick, but now he could drop into the third round. He had eight sacks and 12 ½ tackles for loss. He ran a 5.0 at the combine, and some scouts worry that he doesn’t have the quickness or closing burst to become a consistent pass rusher. They also have trouble pegging him at one position. The Aggies played him outside and inside. He could be best suited to play inside.
Best of the rest
David Ojabo, DE, 6-4, 250; Logan Hall, DT, 6-6, 283, Houston; Boye Mafe, DE, 6-4, 261; Travis Jones, DT, 6-5, 325, Connecticut; Josh Paschal, DE, 6-3, 268; Perrion Winfrey, DT, 6-4, 290, Oklahoma; Cameron Thomas, DE, 6-4, 267, San Diego State; Phidarian Mathis, DT, 6-4, 310; Drake Jackson, DE, 6-2, 254, USC; Nick Bonitto, DE, 6-3, 248, Oklahoma; Sam Williams, DE, 6-3, 261, Mississippi; Michael Clemons, DE, 6-5, 263, Texas A&M; DeAngelo Malone, DE, 6-3, 243, Western Kentucky; Kingsley Enagbare, DE, 6-4, 258, South Carolina.
John McClain, Correspondent
April 24, 2022
Texans' needs
Coach Lovie Smith, who oversees the defense, has three starters returning on the line — end Jonathan Greenard and tackles Maliek Collins and Roy Lopez. They need another edge rusher desperately to play opposite Greenard, who had a breakout second season with a team-high eight sacks in 12 games. General manager Nick Caserio could use the third overall pick on an edge rusher like Travon Walker or Kayvon Thibodeaux. If not with the third pick, Caserio could fill the need with the 13th overall selection, possibly Jermaine Johnson II. Either way, Caserio is expected to use a first-round draft choice on an edge rusher because Smith’s defense requires the linemen to pressure the passer rather than relying too much on blitzing.
Overall
The defensive line, particularly edge rushers, is the most talented and deepest position in the draft. There are seven linemen, including five edge rushers, projected to go in the first round. Sixteen could be selected in the first three rounds.
Aidan Hutchinson, DE, 6-6, 260, Michigan
The highest-rated player on many draft boards is expected to be drafted first by the Jaguars unless they foolishly pass him up, which means the Lions would take him second and keep him in the state. Recorded a school-record 14 sacks last season to go with 15 tackles for loss. Won just about every award but the Heisman Trophy. Ran the 40 in 4.74. A high-motor player who can dip under pass protectors coming off the edge or overpower them. Splendid closing burst and works hard against the run.
Travon Walker, DE, 6-5, 272, Georgia
Some mocks have him going first overall even though he’s not a dynamic pass rusher. Had only nine sacks, including six last season, in three seasons with the Bulldogs. Put on a show at the combine, including a 4.51 40-yard dash. In college, he played outside and inside and sometimes dropped into coverage. In the NFL, he could play end or tackle. Outstanding against the run. Knows how to use his hands to get leverage, has the strength to shed blockers but needs to improve as a pass rusher. Should go high in the first round.
Kayvon Thibodeaux, DE, 6-4, 254, Oregon
Before and during the season, he was projected as the first overall pick, but his performance didn’t match up to his ability. He battled through an ankle injury and finished with seven sacks and 12 tackles for loss in 10 games. Ran the 40 in 4.58. Has quickness off the ball and speed off the edge. Good closing burst to the quarterback. Plays the run well. Developed a reputation for taking plays off. Building his brand is important to him, which scares some general managers. Should be among the top-10 picks and possibly the top five.
Jermaine Johnson II, DE, 6-5, 254, Florida State
After playing two seasons in junior college and two at Georgia, he transferred to the Seminoles last season and developed into a first-round prospect. Registered 12 sacks and 18 tackles for loss. Was voted ACC Defensive Player of the Year. Proved he could stop the run and get after the quarterback. The Senior Bowl was his coming-out party. He consistently dominated the offensive tackles. Ran a 4.58 40 and showed the instincts, quickness and work ethic to excel at the next level. Should go in the top half of the first round.
Jordan Davis, DT, 6-6, 341, Georgia
After he ran the 40 in 4.78 at the combine, more general managers took notice. An incredible physical specimen built with size, quickness, speed and athleticism. Outstanding against the run. A powerful base allows him to fire off the ball and move mountains. If he’s on the nose, he can take on two blockers. If he’s in a four-man front, he can overpower guards. Wasn’t much of a pass rusher in college. Had only two sacks and 5 ½ tackles for loss in 14 games last season. Should go in the middle of the first round.
Devonte Wyatt, DT, 6-3, 304, Georgia
Like teammate Jordan Davis, Wyatt is a powerful run stopper who needs work as a pass rusher. Ran a 4.77 at the combine. With the right coaching and technique, he can improve as a rusher at the next level after registering only 2 ½ sacks last season. He’s got quickness, strength and agility. Hard to knock off his feet. Knows how to gain leverage, keep his feet moving and shed blockers. Should go in the bottom half of the first round.
George Karlaftis, DE, 6-4, 261, Purdue
A native of Greece, he excelled late in his high school career and continued that excellence at Purdue. Had 11 ½ tackles for loss and five sacks last season when he consistently battled double-team blocks. Plays with the kind of consistent effort general managers covet. He has some moves and knows how to use his strong hands and lower-body strength. Plays hard against the run. Should go in the bottom half of the first round.
Stock rising
Arnold Ebiketie, DE, 6-3, 250, Penn State
A former soccer player from Cameroon who blossomed as a senior last season when he recorded 9 ½ sacks and 18 tackles for loss. He has terrific quickness and balance. His soccer background is evident in his footwork. Might be best as outside linebacker in a 3-4 who drops to rush in passing situations. Needs to get stronger and gain weight. Should go in the second round.
Stock falling
DeMarvin Leal, DE/DT, 6-4, 283, Texas A&M
Last season, he was projected as a first-round pick, but now he could drop into the third round. He had eight sacks and 12 ½ tackles for loss. He ran a 5.0 at the combine, and some scouts worry that he doesn’t have the quickness or closing burst to become a consistent pass rusher. They also have trouble pegging him at one position. The Aggies played him outside and inside. He could be best suited to play inside.
Best of the rest
David Ojabo, DE, 6-4, 250; Logan Hall, DT, 6-6, 283, Houston; Boye Mafe, DE, 6-4, 261; Travis Jones, DT, 6-5, 325, Connecticut; Josh Paschal, DE, 6-3, 268; Perrion Winfrey, DT, 6-4, 290, Oklahoma; Cameron Thomas, DE, 6-4, 267, San Diego State; Phidarian Mathis, DT, 6-4, 310; Drake Jackson, DE, 6-2, 254, USC; Nick Bonitto, DE, 6-3, 248, Oklahoma; Sam Williams, DE, 6-3, 261, Mississippi; Michael Clemons, DE, 6-5, 263, Texas A&M; DeAngelo Malone, DE, 6-3, 243, Western Kentucky; Kingsley Enagbare, DE, 6-4, 258, South Carolina.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Ain’t this the truth. I hope our local draft experts remember this come draft time. And that is why it is my opinion it takes couple years to grade it.
If Mayock or Kiper were always right then GMs would just tune in to them to see who to pick.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
Take the elite edge at the worry about OL or DB. However, some have use taking Sauce at 3. Very deep OL draft to not snag an elite edge at 3 (except Tib, Very high bust vs reward)
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Jermaine Johnson at 3 is fine by me.
Porky
Hall of Fame
I’m looking at RB with one of the 4th rd picks. I am not interested in the 2nd round, especially given the current state of the roster. I like the 2nd - 4th rounds in this draft overall and hesitant to deal picks to trade up when this roster is so bereft of talent and needs an infusion of young guys ready to ball. I want more swings of the bat. You’re not hitting a home run on every swing so more swings is a good thing.
banned1976
sleeper mode
Do you want the Texans to move up from three to draft Sauce? Asking because I think there's a decent chance of Gardner going before #3. Several mocks I've seen have Detroit taking him.
Texansballer74
The Marine
No, I would draft either one of those DE that’s left. Then trade back with maybe the Saints to hopefully acquire Kenyon Green OG. I would address the CB position with our 37th pick.
Anyone in mind?
Texansballer74
The Marine
Kyler Gordon or Andrew Booth
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Peter King has the Texans trading 13 and 68 for pick 9. To take a WR…
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com
9. Houston Texans: Garrett Wilson, wide receiver, Ohio State
*Projected Trade: Texans trade the 13th pick overall and an early third-round pick, 68th overall, to the Seahawks for the 9th selection.
And so here comes the run on receivers. Houston leapfrogs the Jets to get the franchise receiver for Davis Mills (who has a chance this year to win this job) or whoever the Texans pick next year to be the franchise passer. There’s a lot of love for Wilson in the league, even though he never led Ohio State in receiving in any of his three years and he’s a lean (6-0, 183) receiver who probably won’t play much heavier. He played the slot in 2020 and outside last year, so teams have plenty of tape to see him play all over the field in different offenses. Team like his ability to get open and to make things happen after the catch.
I look at Houston’s draft this way. Post-Watson, the Texans need some franchise players. If they come out of this draft with a long-term left tackle and a top receiver who can be counted on for the next five to eight years, it’s a profitable draft. Plus: GM Nick Caserio has the 37th overall pick, and he could use that on a second-level cornerback (Washington’s Kyler Gordon?) to attack another need area.
2022 NFL Mock Draft - Football Morning In America - Peter King, NBC Sports
Peter King's Football Morning In America column begins with his complete 2022 NFL Mock Draft and includes news on Amazon Black Friday football push.
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com
9. Houston Texans: Garrett Wilson, wide receiver, Ohio State
*Projected Trade: Texans trade the 13th pick overall and an early third-round pick, 68th overall, to the Seahawks for the 9th selection.
And so here comes the run on receivers. Houston leapfrogs the Jets to get the franchise receiver for Davis Mills (who has a chance this year to win this job) or whoever the Texans pick next year to be the franchise passer. There’s a lot of love for Wilson in the league, even though he never led Ohio State in receiving in any of his three years and he’s a lean (6-0, 183) receiver who probably won’t play much heavier. He played the slot in 2020 and outside last year, so teams have plenty of tape to see him play all over the field in different offenses. Team like his ability to get open and to make things happen after the catch.
I look at Houston’s draft this way. Post-Watson, the Texans need some franchise players. If they come out of this draft with a long-term left tackle and a top receiver who can be counted on for the next five to eight years, it’s a profitable draft. Plus: GM Nick Caserio has the 37th overall pick, and he could use that on a second-level cornerback (Washington’s Kyler Gordon?) to attack another need area.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
That's reaching. JJ is going to be good. But, he will likely have to develop if he is used as a DE. Along with gain 20lbs or so. I would rather have Walker (probably the Jags), Hutchinson or Sauce at 3. JJ might be around at 13...if not get Ford, OL or Karlaftis. If any OL players are taken in the 1st 2 picks we are wide open for a top edge rusher...except Tib who has too many questions. As well as DB, hence while early Sauce is 6' 2-3 and 200lbs. He is worth it at 3 having allowed ZERO TDs in school and Lovie says the D won't work right till we have the right DBs. Sauce is no question a key cog for that.
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That’s a very interesting mock.Peter King has the Texans trading 13 and 68 for pick 9. To take a WR…
2022 NFL Mock Draft - Football Morning In America - Peter King, NBC Sports
Peter King's Football Morning In America column begins with his complete 2022 NFL Mock Draft and includes news on Amazon Black Friday football push.
9. Houston Texans: Garrett Wilson, wide receiver, Ohio State
*Projected Trade: Texans trade the 13th pick overall and an early third-round pick, 68th overall, to the Seahawks for the 9th selection.
And so here comes the run on receivers. Houston leapfrogs the Jets to get the franchise receiver for Davis Mills (who has a chance this year to win this job) or whoever the Texans pick next year to be the franchise passer. There’s a lot of love for Wilson in the league, even though he never led Ohio State in receiving in any of his three years and he’s a lean (6-0, 183) receiver who probably won’t play much heavier. He played the slot in 2020 and outside last year, so teams have plenty of tape to see him play all over the field in different offenses. Team like his ability to get open and to make things happen after the catch.
I look at Houston’s draft this way. Post-Watson, the Texans need some franchise players. If they come out of this draft with a long-term left tackle and a top receiver who can be counted on for the next five to eight years, it’s a profitable draft. Plus: GM Nick Caserio has the 37th overall pick, and he could use that on a second-level cornerback (Washington’s Kyler Gordon?) to attack another need area.
I could easily see this.
And I don’t mind the HOU trade to get Wilson. I’m seeing a lot of mocks showing him go to NYG with their 7th pick now. I think they are currently trying to trade WR Kadarious Tony if I’m not mistaken.
Wilson-Cooks-Collins is a damn good WR corps.
Also. ATL going back up and getting Corrall at 32 is really good value.
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Peter King has the Texans trading 13 and 68 for pick 9. To take a WR…
2022 NFL Mock Draft - Football Morning In America - Peter King, NBC Sports
Peter King's Football Morning In America column begins with his complete 2022 NFL Mock Draft and includes news on Amazon Black Friday football push.
9. Houston Texans: Garrett Wilson, wide receiver, Ohio State
*Projected Trade: Texans trade the 13th pick overall and an early third-round pick, 68th overall, to the Seahawks for the 9th selection.
And so here comes the run on receivers. Houston leapfrogs the Jets to get the franchise receiver for Davis Mills (who has a chance this year to win this job) or whoever the Texans pick next year to be the franchise passer. There’s a lot of love for Wilson in the league, even though he never led Ohio State in receiving in any of his three years and he’s a lean (6-0, 183) receiver who probably won’t play much heavier. He played the slot in 2020 and outside last year, so teams have plenty of tape to see him play all over the field in different offenses. Team like his ability to get open and to make things happen after the catch.
I look at Houston’s draft this way. Post-Watson, the Texans need some franchise players. If they come out of this draft with a long-term left tackle and a top receiver who can be counted on for the next five to eight years, it’s a profitable draft. Plus: GM Nick Caserio has the 37th overall pick, and he could use that on a second-level cornerback (Washington’s Kyler Gordon?) to attack another need area.
I will bet you one of Williams or Wilson will be.there at #13.
No to this trade.
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Greenard, going into his 3rd season, is listed at 6'-3" / 263 lbs. Johnson is 6'-5" / 255 lbs. Give him a season or two in an NFL training room.
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I don’t know, man. Theres going to be a run on WRs early.
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Texans NFL Draft Big Board: Drake London, Ikem Ekwonu and other potential early-round fit
By Aaron Reiss THE ATHLETIC
3h ago
Every team says it picks the best player available in the NFL Draft, but the Texans are one of the few in position to really follow that approach.
As general manager Nick Caserio prepares for the second season of a long rebuild, the Texans still have needs everywhere. The lone exception in the 2022 draft might be at quarterback, where the Texans appear prepared to start 2021 third-round pick Davis Mills for at least this season.
So many needs and a lack of draft history under Caserio, who made five picks in his first draft as GM, make it hard to narrow the pool of potential targets. But with the help of Dane Brugler’s draft guide, “The Beast,” we identified some possible Day 1 and Day 2 fits for the Texans.
Drake London, WR, USC: Standing almost 6-4 and weighing 219 pounds, London has the most prototypical size of the top tier of receivers in this draft. The former basketball player can win 50/50 balls, but he’s also a pretty fluid athlete for his size. He primarily played in the slot during his first two seasons at USC. He’d immediately be one of the Texans’ most well-rounded receivers.
Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama: With Brandin Cooks now under contract through 2024, speed is not necessarily the Texans’ greatest need at receiver, but Williams could be hard to pass up if he falls to No. 13, when the Texans make their second pick in the first round. If not for a torn ACL in the national championship game that could delay Williams’ pro debut, he’d maybe be WR1 in this draft. And if any team can afford to be patient while betting on upside, it’s the Texans.
Evan Neal, OT, Alabama: The Athletic’s Nate Tice mocks Neal to Houston at No. 3 overall. He’s maybe the most polished all-around tackle in this class, and he played left guard, right tackle and left tackle at Alabama. That positional versatility could be handy for a Texans line that’s in flux pretty much everywhere other than at left tackle.
Ikem Ekwonu, OT, N.C. State: Brugler ranks him as the top offensive linemen in this class and has previously mocked him No. 1 overall. Ekwonu, who played left tackle and left guard in college, has movement traits to be an elite run blocker. That might be appealing to Caserio after the Texans finished last in rushing DVOA for the second straight season.
North Carolina State offensive tackle Ikem Ekwonu could help the Houston Texans’ improve the league’s worst rushing offense. (David Rosenblum / Icon Sportswire via Getty Images)
Trevor Penning, OT, Northern Iowa: More of a project than Neal or Ekwonu, Penning could be an option for Texans at No. 13 overall, or perhaps even a bit later in the draft if Houston trades back. He’s raw after playing offensive line for just one season in high school, but he displayed impressive growth — both on the field and in the weight room — at Northern Iowa. At 6-foot-7, Penning is likely a tackle only. Drafting him would mean Tytus Howard probably starts at guard for the Texans in 2022.
Zion Johnson, OG, Boston College: After transferring from FCS Davidson, Johnson became Brugler’s top-ranked guard in this class. If the Texans are able to trade back from No. 13 into the 20s to draft Johnson, they could make a major improvement to their line while picking up additional assets.
Kenyon Green, OG, Texas A&M: Green could go late in Round 1 or possibly be available to the Texans at No. 37 overall, in the second round. He struggled with penalties throughout his college career, but his versatility is attractive: He was the only college player to play 80-plus snaps at four different offensive line positions in 2021, lining up everywhere but center.
Kayvon Thibodeaux, edge, Oregon: There’s annually a prospect subject to odd criticisms about his personality and off-field interests. This year, it’s Thibodeaux. Once viewed as a potential No. 1 overall pick, Thibodeaux might fall behind Michigan’s Aidan Hutchinson and Georgia’s Travon Walker to be available to the Texans at No. 3 overall. The Texans are in desperate need of a Pro Bowl-level edge rusher to complement 2020 third-round pick Jon Greenard, and Thibodeaux is arguably as good an option as any in this draft. The Athletic’s Diante Lee considers him to have a higher ceiling than Hutchinson and a higher floor than Walker.
Jermaine Johnson, edge, Florida State: An option at No. 13 or perhaps even a bit later in the first round, Johnson led the ACC in sacks (12), TFLs (18) and forced fumbles (2) while playing in a four-man front during his lone season at Florida State.
Devonte Wyatt, DT, Georgia: The Texans have greater needs than defensive tackle, but Lovie Smith has said his defense starts at the three-technique spot, and Wyatt is the best three-technique in the class. On a talented Georgia defense, he led all Bulldog defensive linemen in tackles the past two seasons. The 13th overall pick would probably be a little rich for a defensive tackle, though, so he makes more sense if Houston trades back.
Nakobe Dean, LB, Georgia: The Texans’ linebacking corps is a collection of veterans on short-term deals and 2021 fifth-round pick Garret Wallow, so Dean could make an impact right away. Dean is on the smaller end at 5-11, 231, but Caserio hasn’t stocked the position with more traditional run-thumpers, so that might not be an issue.
Cornerback Derek Stingley Jr. could give the Texans an impact player at a premium position. (Derick E. Hingle / USA Today)
Derek Stingley Jr., CB, LSU: His best production came during LSU’s national championship season in 2019. That might be alarming to some, but Stingley offers superstar potential at a premium position. Smith said he prioritizes ball skills when evaluating corners, and Stingley recorded a combined 32 pass breakups and interceptions in 25 collegiate games.
Ahmad “Sauce” Gardner, CB, Cincinnati: At 6-foot-2, Gardner is a couple of inches taller than Stingley and a more physical corner. He thrives in bump-and-run coverage that allows him to stay in a receiver’s pocket. That might not be as ideal of a fit for Smith’s zone-heavy system, but Gardner is Brugler’s CB1.
Kyle Hamilton, Safety, Notre Dame: Safety is arguably the Texans’ thinnest position after losing Justin Reid in free agency. Picking the ultra-versatile Hamilton, the draft’s top safety, would allow the Texans to fill the many different holes in their secondary.
Day 2
Kenneth Walker III, RB, Michigan State: Walker is Brugler’s No. 1 back in this class. He transferred from Wake Forest to Michigan State before running for more than 1,600 yards in his lone season as a full-time starter. With 263 carries in 2021, Walker proved he could be the workhorse the Texans’ backfield is missing. Like a lot of college backs, he’s unproven as a receiver. But according to Pro Football Focus, he led the nation last season in broken tackles, a stat that tends to be sticky from college to the NFL.
Brain Robinson Jr., RB, Alabama: Robinson finally got his chance to be the Tide’s lead back during his fifth and final year in Tuscaloosa. He averaged five yards per carry in Bill O’Brien’s pro-style scheme and showed upside as a receiver (35 catches for 296 yards). Robinson is an option if the Texans choose to wait until the middle rounds to address one of the sport’s less-valued positions.
Khalil Shakir, WR, Boise State: Slot receiver was a rotating door for the Texans in 2021. Shakir, who averaged 121.5 all-purpose yards during his junior and senior seasons, could offer some stability. He’d be an option in the return game, too.
Jelani Woods, TE, Virginia: The Texans are currently set to run it back with an underwhelming pair of inline tight ends in Pharaoh Brown and Antony Auclair. Woods is a mid-round option who could help the Texans right away as a blocker. He also has the potential to be an asset in high-leverage situations, as he used his 6-foot-7 frame to produce a first down or touchdown on 70.5% of his receptions in 2021.
Daniel Faalele, OT, Minnesota: An Australian native, Faalele didn’t suit up for a football game until his senior year of high school, but his large frame — currently 6-8, 384 pounds — was enough to get the attention of college programs. However, his size also limits his range and speed. At the next level, he’s likely to stay at right tackle, the position he played in college.
Dylan Parham, OG/C, Memphis: At 6-2, 311 pounds, Parham is best suited to play center in the NFL, but he was a guard and tackle in college. Still, The Athletic’s Nick Baumgardner loves his consistently savvy use of leverage in the run game. The Texans have center Justin Britt on a two-year contract, so they can be patient while Parham adjusts to center.
Cameron Thomas, edge, San Diego State: He’s an average athlete but possesses a nose for the ball in the backfield, as evidenced by his 20.5 TFLs and 11.5 sacks in 2021. He likely won’t be as productive on a play-to-play basis in the NFL, but he has the prototypical size (6-4, 267) to be an every-down edge rusher in Smith’s four-man front.
Matthew Butler, DT, Tennessee: As mentioned when discussing Wyatt above, defensive tackle isn’t one of the Texans’ biggest needs, so it might make more sense to add to the position in the middle rounds with a player like Butler. He doesn’t offer much as a pass rusher, but he’s a scheme-versatile three-technique who got better every season at Tennessee.
Joshua Williams, CB, Fayetteville State: Currently holding 11 picks in this draft, the Texans can afford to take a few big swings, especially after Day 1. Williams is just that, having played corner for one season in high school and just two at the Division II level. His background as a receiver gives him the ball skills Smith covets (24 pass breakups and five interceptions in his last 20 games), and the Texans can afford to be patient while refining his technique as an outside corner.
Alontae Taylor, DB, Tennessee: A college corner who could move to safety, Taylor profiles as a potential core special teams player, according to Brugler. Not exciting, but the Texans need to build that depth in the middle rounds.
By Aaron Reiss THE ATHLETIC
3h ago
Every team says it picks the best player available in the NFL Draft, but the Texans are one of the few in position to really follow that approach.
As general manager Nick Caserio prepares for the second season of a long rebuild, the Texans still have needs everywhere. The lone exception in the 2022 draft might be at quarterback, where the Texans appear prepared to start 2021 third-round pick Davis Mills for at least this season.
So many needs and a lack of draft history under Caserio, who made five picks in his first draft as GM, make it hard to narrow the pool of potential targets. But with the help of Dane Brugler’s draft guide, “The Beast,” we identified some possible Day 1 and Day 2 fits for the Texans.
Drake London, WR, USC: Standing almost 6-4 and weighing 219 pounds, London has the most prototypical size of the top tier of receivers in this draft. The former basketball player can win 50/50 balls, but he’s also a pretty fluid athlete for his size. He primarily played in the slot during his first two seasons at USC. He’d immediately be one of the Texans’ most well-rounded receivers.
Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama: With Brandin Cooks now under contract through 2024, speed is not necessarily the Texans’ greatest need at receiver, but Williams could be hard to pass up if he falls to No. 13, when the Texans make their second pick in the first round. If not for a torn ACL in the national championship game that could delay Williams’ pro debut, he’d maybe be WR1 in this draft. And if any team can afford to be patient while betting on upside, it’s the Texans.
Evan Neal, OT, Alabama: The Athletic’s Nate Tice mocks Neal to Houston at No. 3 overall. He’s maybe the most polished all-around tackle in this class, and he played left guard, right tackle and left tackle at Alabama. That positional versatility could be handy for a Texans line that’s in flux pretty much everywhere other than at left tackle.
Ikem Ekwonu, OT, N.C. State: Brugler ranks him as the top offensive linemen in this class and has previously mocked him No. 1 overall. Ekwonu, who played left tackle and left guard in college, has movement traits to be an elite run blocker. That might be appealing to Caserio after the Texans finished last in rushing DVOA for the second straight season.
North Carolina State offensive tackle Ikem Ekwonu could help the Houston Texans’ improve the league’s worst rushing offense. (David Rosenblum / Icon Sportswire via Getty Images)
Trevor Penning, OT, Northern Iowa: More of a project than Neal or Ekwonu, Penning could be an option for Texans at No. 13 overall, or perhaps even a bit later in the draft if Houston trades back. He’s raw after playing offensive line for just one season in high school, but he displayed impressive growth — both on the field and in the weight room — at Northern Iowa. At 6-foot-7, Penning is likely a tackle only. Drafting him would mean Tytus Howard probably starts at guard for the Texans in 2022.
Zion Johnson, OG, Boston College: After transferring from FCS Davidson, Johnson became Brugler’s top-ranked guard in this class. If the Texans are able to trade back from No. 13 into the 20s to draft Johnson, they could make a major improvement to their line while picking up additional assets.
Kenyon Green, OG, Texas A&M: Green could go late in Round 1 or possibly be available to the Texans at No. 37 overall, in the second round. He struggled with penalties throughout his college career, but his versatility is attractive: He was the only college player to play 80-plus snaps at four different offensive line positions in 2021, lining up everywhere but center.
Kayvon Thibodeaux, edge, Oregon: There’s annually a prospect subject to odd criticisms about his personality and off-field interests. This year, it’s Thibodeaux. Once viewed as a potential No. 1 overall pick, Thibodeaux might fall behind Michigan’s Aidan Hutchinson and Georgia’s Travon Walker to be available to the Texans at No. 3 overall. The Texans are in desperate need of a Pro Bowl-level edge rusher to complement 2020 third-round pick Jon Greenard, and Thibodeaux is arguably as good an option as any in this draft. The Athletic’s Diante Lee considers him to have a higher ceiling than Hutchinson and a higher floor than Walker.
Jermaine Johnson, edge, Florida State: An option at No. 13 or perhaps even a bit later in the first round, Johnson led the ACC in sacks (12), TFLs (18) and forced fumbles (2) while playing in a four-man front during his lone season at Florida State.
Devonte Wyatt, DT, Georgia: The Texans have greater needs than defensive tackle, but Lovie Smith has said his defense starts at the three-technique spot, and Wyatt is the best three-technique in the class. On a talented Georgia defense, he led all Bulldog defensive linemen in tackles the past two seasons. The 13th overall pick would probably be a little rich for a defensive tackle, though, so he makes more sense if Houston trades back.
Nakobe Dean, LB, Georgia: The Texans’ linebacking corps is a collection of veterans on short-term deals and 2021 fifth-round pick Garret Wallow, so Dean could make an impact right away. Dean is on the smaller end at 5-11, 231, but Caserio hasn’t stocked the position with more traditional run-thumpers, so that might not be an issue.
Cornerback Derek Stingley Jr. could give the Texans an impact player at a premium position. (Derick E. Hingle / USA Today)
Derek Stingley Jr., CB, LSU: His best production came during LSU’s national championship season in 2019. That might be alarming to some, but Stingley offers superstar potential at a premium position. Smith said he prioritizes ball skills when evaluating corners, and Stingley recorded a combined 32 pass breakups and interceptions in 25 collegiate games.
Ahmad “Sauce” Gardner, CB, Cincinnati: At 6-foot-2, Gardner is a couple of inches taller than Stingley and a more physical corner. He thrives in bump-and-run coverage that allows him to stay in a receiver’s pocket. That might not be as ideal of a fit for Smith’s zone-heavy system, but Gardner is Brugler’s CB1.
Kyle Hamilton, Safety, Notre Dame: Safety is arguably the Texans’ thinnest position after losing Justin Reid in free agency. Picking the ultra-versatile Hamilton, the draft’s top safety, would allow the Texans to fill the many different holes in their secondary.
Day 2
Kenneth Walker III, RB, Michigan State: Walker is Brugler’s No. 1 back in this class. He transferred from Wake Forest to Michigan State before running for more than 1,600 yards in his lone season as a full-time starter. With 263 carries in 2021, Walker proved he could be the workhorse the Texans’ backfield is missing. Like a lot of college backs, he’s unproven as a receiver. But according to Pro Football Focus, he led the nation last season in broken tackles, a stat that tends to be sticky from college to the NFL.
Brain Robinson Jr., RB, Alabama: Robinson finally got his chance to be the Tide’s lead back during his fifth and final year in Tuscaloosa. He averaged five yards per carry in Bill O’Brien’s pro-style scheme and showed upside as a receiver (35 catches for 296 yards). Robinson is an option if the Texans choose to wait until the middle rounds to address one of the sport’s less-valued positions.
Khalil Shakir, WR, Boise State: Slot receiver was a rotating door for the Texans in 2021. Shakir, who averaged 121.5 all-purpose yards during his junior and senior seasons, could offer some stability. He’d be an option in the return game, too.
Jelani Woods, TE, Virginia: The Texans are currently set to run it back with an underwhelming pair of inline tight ends in Pharaoh Brown and Antony Auclair. Woods is a mid-round option who could help the Texans right away as a blocker. He also has the potential to be an asset in high-leverage situations, as he used his 6-foot-7 frame to produce a first down or touchdown on 70.5% of his receptions in 2021.
Daniel Faalele, OT, Minnesota: An Australian native, Faalele didn’t suit up for a football game until his senior year of high school, but his large frame — currently 6-8, 384 pounds — was enough to get the attention of college programs. However, his size also limits his range and speed. At the next level, he’s likely to stay at right tackle, the position he played in college.
Dylan Parham, OG/C, Memphis: At 6-2, 311 pounds, Parham is best suited to play center in the NFL, but he was a guard and tackle in college. Still, The Athletic’s Nick Baumgardner loves his consistently savvy use of leverage in the run game. The Texans have center Justin Britt on a two-year contract, so they can be patient while Parham adjusts to center.
Cameron Thomas, edge, San Diego State: He’s an average athlete but possesses a nose for the ball in the backfield, as evidenced by his 20.5 TFLs and 11.5 sacks in 2021. He likely won’t be as productive on a play-to-play basis in the NFL, but he has the prototypical size (6-4, 267) to be an every-down edge rusher in Smith’s four-man front.
Matthew Butler, DT, Tennessee: As mentioned when discussing Wyatt above, defensive tackle isn’t one of the Texans’ biggest needs, so it might make more sense to add to the position in the middle rounds with a player like Butler. He doesn’t offer much as a pass rusher, but he’s a scheme-versatile three-technique who got better every season at Tennessee.
Joshua Williams, CB, Fayetteville State: Currently holding 11 picks in this draft, the Texans can afford to take a few big swings, especially after Day 1. Williams is just that, having played corner for one season in high school and just two at the Division II level. His background as a receiver gives him the ball skills Smith covets (24 pass breakups and five interceptions in his last 20 games), and the Texans can afford to be patient while refining his technique as an outside corner.
Alontae Taylor, DB, Tennessee: A college corner who could move to safety, Taylor profiles as a potential core special teams player, according to Brugler. Not exciting, but the Texans need to build that depth in the middle rounds.
Good. Let someone move up and give some picks for 13