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TIME TO RELEASE THE STORY BEHIND THE "MULUGHETA EFFECT" ON THE WATSON/TEXANS RELATIONSHIP..............AND MORE

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mws

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I don't doubt that they were willing to listen to Watson's input. It just makes sense with the huge contract they had just given him. That's a far cry from him having veto power over their choice of GM & HC.

This is 100% my subjective opinion without any proof but I think Watson wanted out of town because of the looming lawsuits. He probably believed it would be harder to be sued across state lines.

In my opinion these ridiculous demands were all to further that agenda.
 

maverick512000

Hall of Fame
Thats not the same as saying you'll get to pick the GM or even being part of the search. If Watson took that to mean he would get to sit at the table then thats just his ego. The article says that McNair asked Watson about his opinions and the direction of the team, thats all. Owners, managers and pretty much anyone not on an ego trip will ask advice on all kinds of things from all kinds of people. Hell the same owner that just gave Watson his new contract took draft advice from a homeless man. Should that homeless guy be upset he wasn't consulted on the Watson trade?
 

thunderkyss

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I'd like to see some other confirmation beyond Watson's camp about the alleged "promise" made to Watson about having a say in the GM and HC hires.
Cal was naming Dungy, Andre, Jimmy Johnson & a bunch of other people to be involved. Some of those guys shot down their involvement in the process

so I’m more inclined to believe anybody but Cal’s team
 

Texian

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Cal was naming Dungy, Andre, Jimmy Johnson & a bunch of other people to be involved. Some of those guys shot down their involvement in the process

so I’m more inclined to believe anybody but Cal’s team
Correct again Kemosabe. There was Korn the consultants, plus 2 or 3 committees and DW4's input and all of that, every ounce of it, immediately went out the window the moment Easterby had Cal's ear and convinced Cal he had no chance for Caserio if he didn't act immediately and make a decision in the next 24 hours. Cal must share @steelbtexan ADD. :)

Disclaimer: The last sentence is a joke. A little jab at Steel's own admission of posts being TLTR. So this is not a personal attack. It's a HA HA.

Also if there is one thing we know about the McNairs it is they are very protective of their image. So there will be spin. Lots and lots of spin. Cal won't even admit the Texans are rebuilding.
 

Double Barrel

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Your article stated that Watson had a conversation with Cal in November 2020. That is not the same as the fabricated propaganda that has been perpetuated that Watson was promised to be a part of the search and interview process.

Nothing in your article indicated that Watson had been promised anything, much less have enough influence to choose the HC and GM.

And this is my point.

The media (and fans) have ran with a simpleton, unsubstantiated story that Watson was "done wrong by Cal".

But, if anything, the article clearly states that the owner listened to Watson's "thoughts and opinions on who should be the next head coach, and Watson shared his opinions with McNair."

How did Cal do Watson wrong???

It utter freakin' stupidity that has dominated this horse crap story from the point that Watson started pouting and acting like a little biatch.

Watson's own words at the Cleveland funeral home press conference reveal that the Texans were honest with him.

And in the end, he pouted his way out of Houston because he did not get his way. This clearly supports CnD's version of events.
 

Double Barrel

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I don't doubt that they were willing to listen to Watson's input. It just makes sense with the huge contract they had just given him. That's a far cry from him having veto power over their choice of GM & HC.

This is 100% my subjective opinion without any proof but I think Watson wanted out of town because of the looming lawsuits. He probably believed it would be harder to be sued across state lines.

In my opinion these ridiculous demands were all to further that agenda.
BINGO!

Watson's sketchy-ass private life had everything to do with his pouting and wanting an immediate exit from Houston. It is the most logical and reasonable explanation for so many parts of this entire sordid affair.
 

Double Barrel

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Cal was naming Dungy, Andre, Jimmy Johnson & a bunch of other people to be involved. Some of those guys shot down their involvement in the process

so I’m more inclined to believe anybody but Cal’s team
"Cal's team" has not said a damn thing, so what is there to believe? The Texans have never addressed the allegations made by Watson's sycophants.

Watson, on the other hand, has revealed himself to be a giant chump and unworthy of anyone's trust. F that guy and the hole he crawled out of.
 

Texian

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Your article stated that Watson had a conversation with Cal in November 2020. That is not the same as the fabricated propaganda that has been perpetuated that Watson was promised to be a part of the search and interview process.

Nothing in your article indicated that Watson had been promised anything, much less have enough influence to choose the HC and GM.

And this is my point.

The media (and fans) have ran with a simpleton, unsubstantiated story that Watson was "done wrong by Cal".

But, if anything, the article clearly states that the owner listened to Watson's "thoughts and opinions on who should be the next head coach, and Watson shared his opinions with McNair."

How did Cal do Watson wrong???

It utter freakin' stupidity that has dominated this horse crap story from the point that Watson started pouting and acting like a little biatch.

Watson's own words at the Cleveland funeral home press conference reveal that the Texans were honest with him.

And in the end, he pouted his way out of Houston because he did not get his way. This clearly supports CnD's version of events.
"We must be careful not to believe things simply because we want them to be true. No one can fool you as easily as you can fool yourself!" - Richard Feynman

Sometimes we hear and see only those things we want to see and hear.

McNair told ESPN this past week that he recently had dinner with Watson, and the direction of the Texans' franchise came up during their conversation. McNair wanted to hear Watson's thoughts and opinions on who should be the next head coach, and Watson shared his opinions with McNair.

McNair told ESPN that he welcomes Watson's input, respects his opinion and wants the star quarterback to be happy.

On Thursday, ESPN's Adam Schefter reported that Watson offered input on potential general manager candidates but that the Texans did not consider or consult with those endorsed by their franchise quarterback.

Houston Texans CEO Cal McNair ready to address Deshaun Watson's frustration over GM search (espn.com)


Rather a strange way of showing you wanting your star quarterback to be happy.
 
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michaelm

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Correct again Kemosabe. There was Korn the consultants, plus 2 or 3 committees and DW4's input and all of that, every ounce of it, immediately went out the window the moment Easterby had Cal's ear and convinced Cal he had no chance for Caserio if he didn't act immediately and make a decision in the next 24 hours. Cal must share @steelbtexan ADD. :)

Disclaimer: The last sentence is a joke. A little jab at Steel's own admission of posts being TLTR. So this is not a personal attack. It's a HA HA.

Also if there is one thing we know about the McNairs it is they are very protective of their image. So there will be spin. Lots and lots of spin. Cal won't even admit the Texans are rebuilding.
Dungy said himself that he had been contacted for his advice but specifically said he was not part of any committee.

There was never any committee other than Korn Ferry.
 

maverick512000

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"We must be careful not to believe things simply because we want them to be true. No one can fool you as easily as you can fool yourself!" - Richard Feynman

Sometimes we hear and see only those things we want to see and hear.

McNair told ESPN this past week that he recently had dinner with Watson, and the direction of the Texans' franchise came up during their conversation. McNair wanted to hear Watson's thoughts and opinions on who should be the next head coach, and Watson shared his opinions with McNair.

McNair told ESPN that he welcomes Watson's input, respects his opinion and wants the star quarterback to be happy.

On Thursday, ESPN's Adam Schefter reported that Watson offered input on potential general manager candidates but that the Texans did not consider or consult with those endorsed by their franchise quarterback.

Houston Texans CEO Cal McNair ready to address Deshaun Watson's frustration over GM search (espn.com)


Rather a strange way of showing you wanting your star quarterback to be happy.
The irony of you quoting Feynman on this is hilarious. That article says "...league sources told ESPN." Well who are these sources? They can only come from Watson's camp because if it was someone in Cal's camp that was that worried about it they would have said something to Cal. Oh and also did you notice by chance how all these reports of the big, evil Texans and the poor abused Watson went away once the count hit double digits?

Even still from your own article "'I've come to understand that it's been reported that Deshaun feels left out of the process, but he and I had several visits and I understood his point of view before meeting with candidates,' McNair said Friday. " Sounds to me in McNair's mind he had consulted Watson and still decided to go a different way and that is completely his right as an owner. Seems Watson is like my sister in law where if you ask her for advise or an opinion she gets mad if you don't do what she says and complains "Why did you even ask me if you weren't going to do it the way I said do it?" Because asking for advise or an opinion is not the same as asking for orders on what should be done.

By the way, I'll see you Richard Feynman and raise you a Saul Bellow

"A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.” - Saul Bellow
 

Texian

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Dungy said himself that he had been contacted for his advice but specifically said he was not part of any committee.

There was never any committee other than Korn Ferry.
What we have here is another case of revisionism from another member of the Kool Aid Brigade.

Mark Berman on Twitter: "Cal McNair, #Texans chairman/CEO, has an impressive ad-hoc committee of consultants helping him find a new head coach & GM: Hall Fame coaches @TonyDungy & @JimmyJohnson,former Texans star Andre Johnson (@johnson80),@spurs CEO RC Buford & Rod Graves,exec dir/Fritz Pollard Alliance" / Twitter
 

steelbtexan

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I have posted this before but I personally believe Easterby was heavily involved in getting Gaine fired.


Gaine was fired on 6/7/2019. If the HR matter was so bad why did Buffalo rehire him 2 months later on 7/23/2019 as senior personnel advisor. A job he still has today.
The HR problems were bad.

He got the job with the Bills because he's close friends with Beane. He will keep this job until he retires. He will never sniff another job in the NFL again, particularly a GM job.
 

maverick512000

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So let me get this straight, Dungy himself said that Cal asked for his thoughts but he was never on a committee yet because Berman says it, not quotes it just says it, we are suppose to believe him over Dungy?

Well you get credit for imagination if nothing else.
 

steelbtexan

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Well if the next 3 years are anything like the last year of decision making, it may be the worst ride ever created in sports..... In Lovie we trust that that wont happen.
Tell me again what Caserio has done that has really set this franchise back?

The cap will be clean and he will have a boatload of draft picks. This and always has been a 2 yr cleanup of the mess BOB left behind.

The main reason you're being critical I'm guessing is that you didn't like the Tunsil/Cooks reworking of their contracts. Because if all you've got is you dont like a bunch of late rd pick swaps and taking chances with late rd guys like Miller, then your just looking for something b!tch about.

I happened to like Caserio's 1st draft and hope he continues to do even better work since he has more/higher draft picks.
 
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mws

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I guess my main problem with Caserio is the Culley hiring. If Lovie is good enough this year he should have been good enough last year. From a coaching staff perspective we lost a year just dicking around with Culley.

The only mitigating factor I can come up with is that someone (Cal or Easterby) somehow thought Culley would calm Watson down. Of course this was before all the law suit crap.
 

michaelm

vox nihili
No, what we have is another case of selective memory from the Antacid Brigade

That was debunked two days later. So, you need to revise.




@Texian, feel free to pass on responding to my above post, since the only appropriate response from you would be an admission of error on your part.

In lieu of that, I'll accept any links you have to support your assertion that there were "2 or 3 committees" in addition to Korn Ferry.
 

Double Barrel

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"We must be careful not to believe things simply because we want them to be true. No one can fool you as easily as you can fool yourself!" - Richard Feynman
Funny quote coming from the land of confirmation bias. :hmmm:

McNair told ESPN this past week that he recently had dinner with Watson, and the direction of the Texans' franchise came up during their conversation. McNair wanted to hear Watson's thoughts and opinions on who should be the next head coach, and Watson shared his opinions with McNair.

McNair told ESPN that he welcomes Watson's input, respects his opinion and wants the star quarterback to be happy.

On Thursday, ESPN's Adam Schefter reported that Watson offered input on potential general manager candidates but that the Texans did not consider or consult with those endorsed by their franchise quarterback.

Houston Texans CEO Cal McNair ready to address Deshaun Watson's frustration over GM search (espn.com)


Rather a strange way of showing you wanting your star quarterback to be happy.
Nothing you've provided supports the on-going propaganda that Watson was promised the power to choose the HC or GM, much less the narrative that the Texans did him wrong just months after giving him a $160 million contract. It is utterly absurd.

Interestingly enough, everything you posted aligns with CnD's version of events.

And I have to wonder: What kind of diva ego believes that advising a franchise owner of a perspective equates to that opinion being instructive or else? He gave the owner an ultimatum! That is clearly indicative of a massive freakin' ego and nothing more. Watson never had that kind of clout.

I'm just looking for truth, or at least a semblance version of it, because the Texans are like the CIA with secrecy and Watson has proven to be a dishonorable POS.

Your continued support of Watson's arrogance and narcissism because it supports your anti-McNair crusade is very telling. ". . .be careful not to believe things simply because we want them to be true." That's great advice. You should heed it.
 

frethack

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@Texian, feel free to pass on responding to my above post, since the only appropriate response from you would be an admission of error on your part.

In lieu of that, I'll accept any links you have to support your assertion that there were "2 or 3 committees" in addition to Korn Ferry.
He will not respond and will post as if it doesn't exist.

Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
 

Speedy

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I guess my main problem with Caserio is the Culley hiring. If Lovie is good enough this year he should have been good enough last year. From a coaching staff perspective we lost a year just dicking around with Culley.

The only mitigating factor I can come up with is that someone (Cal or Easterby) somehow thought Culley would calm Watson down. Of course this was before all the law suit crap.
Don’t forget that had it not been for the Flores lawsuit, Lovie is still not the choice and it’s likely a guy with ZERO experience.



I am sitting this @Texian revision of history out.

But you guys are doing great with supporting facts.
I don’t know why you guys spend so much time and energy on these trolls and give them so much attention. I seriously don’t get it.
 

Texian

Hall of Fame
Tell me again what Caserio has done that has really set this franchise back?

The cap will be clean and he will have a boatload of draft picks. This and always has been a 2 yr cleanup of the mess BOB left behind.

The main reason you're being critical I'm guessing is that you didn't like the Tunsil/Cooks reworking of their contracts. Because if all you've got is you dont like a bunch of late rd pick swaps and taking chances with late rd guys like Miller, then your just looking for something b!tch about.

I happened to like Caserio's 1st draft and hope he continues to do even better work since he has more/higher draft picks.
For someone who can only decipher a sentence or two at a time you're rather pithy here. Caserio used 13 draft picks to draft 5 players. Tell you again what Nick Cliche has done to set the franchise back, OK. To start he does not know what he's doing. He never did anything in New England that comes close to the job responsibilities of a general manger. Now for last year's setbacks.

I'm still not sure how Mark Davis was able to hire Josh McDaniels and Nick Caserio could not even get an interview? Why was that?

HERE WE GO:
Once Caserio arrived in Houston I really had no bias only the use of past history to guide me. My question at the time was, is this going to be another Scott Pioli FUBAR of the Kansas City Chiefs. Therefore, moving forward, it didn't take long to get an early answer and understanding that Nick Caserio was lacking in general manager skills. His very first major Texans decision was to hire David Culley. He only did that after already hiring all of Culley's assistant coaches. So there you go and we are off and running. From the get go it looked like the another Belichick administrative assistant just did not know or understand how to be a manager. I was still thinking that maybe, just maybe Bill O'Brien and Jack Easterby could still be right about this guy Nick Caserio they had so strongly recommended and demanded Cal McNair hire.

Since then Nick has earned every single criticism I have given him. Although twice I applauded Nick Caserio decisions. The first when he traded Roby, although he did get short changed on that trade as well. (started seeing a pattern here) The other is when he didn't trade DW4 before the trade dead line. I knew there would be more suitors and said there would be 1 owner/GM who could not resist the temptation. What I didn't know (but I kind of did) is that Nick didn't know how to play the game very well. A mental midget could have negotiated (3) 1st RD picks. What came after would take someone who knew what they doing to achieve the best outcome. That was not the case.

Caserio FUBARS Extraordinaire:

1/7 - Texans hire Nick Caserio.
Jan thru Apr Caserio refuses to take calls from any teams about Deshaun Watson. A GMs job is to take calls, not ignore them.

1/27 - Caserio hires David Culley, the first HC opening, the last HC hire. Caserio's first hire is the worst HC hire in 2021. It's a also important to note that before hiring Culley, Caserio had already hired all of the assistant coaches. You don't see anything wrong with this picture?

3/2 - Resigns David Johnson to a $6MM contract (makes absolutely no sense)

3/11 - Caserio restructures Cooks contract. borrows $2.5MM from 2022, 2023, 2024 ($7.5MM). Restructure also cancels last year of contract. Cooks contract now expires after 2022 season.

3/18 - Caserio trades a 4th RD pick for Marcus Cannon who the Patriots were going to cut. The Texans cut him this year. Texans could've used that pick to draft Dan Moore starting OT for the Steelers.

3/20 -Caserio restructures Tunsil contract. By borrowing $10MM from future caps ($5MM 2022; $5MM 2023)

3/22 - Caserio trades for Shaq Lawson restructures contract, then trades Lawson to Jets, creates $1.8MM in Dead Cap Money. This really is a bonehead move and continues to bring into question does Caserio have any idea what he is doing?

3/23 - Caserio trades draft pick for Ryan Izzo. 8/31 Caserio cuts Izzo. - wasted draft pick
Caserio trades another draft pick for Ryan Finley. 5/24 - Caserio cuts Finley - another wasted draft pick

3/24 - Caserio restructures Mercilus contract. 10/19 - Caserio cuts Mercilus creating $7MM dead cap in 2022. Chalk up another bone head move.

3/30 - Caserio restructures Cunningham 4 year contract. Borrows $5.6MM from 2022, 2023, 2024. 12/8 - Nick cuts Cunningham. And the bone headed moves just keep on coming. Caserio at this point has clearly establish that he does not know what he's doing. He's flying by the seat of his pants and has no idea with this plane is flying.

4/29 - NFL Draft. Caserio uses (8) 2021 draft picks and (2) 2022 draft picks to draft (5) players. Don't forget Nick has already used 2 other draft picks on players he has cut. That's 12 draft picks to add 5 players to roster. There is no other way to explain this other than it is terrible management.

7/26 - Caserio trades for Anthony Miller. 10/6 - Caserio cuts Miller - another wasted draft pick. (Man, I sure do wish the Texans had that pick #148 today. Lots of good players still available at #148).

9/9 - Caserio trades Roby to Saints, restructuring contract to include eating $8.9MM in salary ($4.8MM in 2022). Value of 2nd rd pick, only gets a 3rd RD pick. Pick #49 looks a whole lot better than pick #80.

Nick Caserio created over $37MM in 2021 dead cap money. As a result Caserio had to restructure (5) contracts to create over $35MM in order to sign a bunch of over the hill 30 year olds to 1 year contracts in order to fill the roster.

Today Caserio is responsible for $51MM in reduction of 2022 salary cap thru dead cap he created. He started 2021 with $0 dead cap money in 2022, now has over $50MM.

Texans only had 27 players under contract in 2022, that's 10 players less than the avg team.

This is a mess, a clown show, a dumpster fire, absence of intelligent thought, lacking common sense and logic. An exercise in buffoonery, Tom Foolery, menopause brain, lacking in basic skills in accounting and economics.

Texans started 2021 season with 54 contracts and $6MM OVER the cap.

If Nick Caserio had made the following moves (below) they would've been $48MM UNDER the cap. That's $48 MILLION UNDER THE CAP. They would not of had to resort to mortgaging the future to the tune of OVER $35MM in contract restructuring, $37MM in Dead Cap in 2021 and would've added a 2nd rd draft pick. - TOTAL FISCAL IRRESPONSIBILITY
B. McKinneyRelease$7.00m
D. JohnsonRelease$6.90m
Z. FultonRelease$3.00m
Du. JohnsonRelease$5.15m
B. DunnRelease$3.25m
B. CooksTrade$12.00m
J. WattRelease$17.50m
Total Saved$54.80m
This is how 2022 started:

After hearing the Dolphins fired Flores, Caserio immediately fired Culley with eyes on hiring Flores. Since McDaniels had no interest in the Texans (I wonder why) Nick was going to hire the ex-Patriot Flores. I'm still not sure how Mark Davis was able to hire Josh McDaniels and Nick Caserio could not even get an interview? Can you help me out here @steelbtexan?

Oops, Flores files a lawsuit against the NFL and the Texans. No Flores for Nick or the Texans now. So after 3 interviews Caserio was ready to hire a person with no coaching experience at all as the new head coach, Josh McKown. Except now because of the lawsuit that makes hiring McKown a complete absolute PR nightmare for the Texans and the NFL. Caserio's only other option was Jonathan Gannon who withdrew after being told he could not hire is own coaching staff. At which point Nick Caserio falls down on his knees and screams like he's Zach Mayo, "I don't have nowhere else to go". At which point, Cal McNair, Cal McNair dammit, had to step in and hire Lovie Smith to finally put an end to all of this madness. Whew. That's 2 head coaching searches that turned into 2 nightmare horror stories.

and then there is the DW4 trade where Nick Caserio was able to get .70 on the dollar.

So, no I didn't wake up the day Caserio was hired and say I hate the guy. When I continually take a dump on Caserio, as you so eloquently describe it, it is because it is just like Smith Barney would describe it, every time Nick Caserio has been dumped on, he has done it the old fashion way, HE HAS EARNED IT.

In Lovie we Trust....

STAY TUNED.......DEVELOPING.......


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steelbtexan

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For someone who can only decipher a sentence or two at a time you're rather pithy here. Caserio used 13 draft picks to draft 5 players. Tell you again what Nick Cliche has done to set the franchise back, OK. To start he does not know what he's doing. He never did anything in New England that comes close to the job responsibilities of a general manger. Now for last year's setbacks.

I'm still not sure how Mark Davis was able to hire Josh McDaniels and Nick Caserio could not even get an interview? Why was that?

HERE WE GO:
Once Caserio arrived in Houston I really had no bias only the use of past history to guide me. My question at the time was, is this going to be another Scott Pioli FUBAR of the Kansas City Chiefs. Therefore, moving forward, it didn't take long to get an early answer and understanding that Nick Caserio was lacking in general manager skills. His very first major Texans decision was to hire David Culley. He only did that after already hiring all of Culley's assistant coaches. So there you go and we are off and running. From the get go it looked like the another Belichick administrative assistant just did not know or understand how to be a manager. I was still thinking that maybe, just maybe Bill O'Brien and Jack Easterby could still be right about this guy Nick Caserio they had so strongly recommended and demanded Cal McNair hire.

Since then Nick has earned every single criticism I have given him. Although twice I applauded Nick Caserio decisions. The first when he traded Roby, although he did get short changed on that trade as well. (started seeing a pattern here) The other is when he didn't trade DW4 before the trade dead line. I knew there would be more suitors and said there would be 1 owner/GM who could not resist the temptation. What I didn't know (but I kind of did) is that Nick didn't know how to play the game very well. A mental midget could have negotiated (3) 1st RD picks. What came after would take someone who knew what they doing to achieve the best outcome. That was not the case.

Caserio FUBARS Extraordinaire:

1/7 - Texans hire Nick Caserio.
Jan thru Apr Caserio refuses to take calls from any teams about Deshaun Watson. A GMs job is to take calls, not ignore them.

1/27 - Caserio hires David Culley, the first HC opening, the last HC hire. Caserio's first hire is the worst HC hire in 2021. It's a also important to note that before hiring Culley, Caserio had already hired all of the assistant coaches. You don't see anything wrong with this picture?

3/2 - Resigns David Johnson to a $6MM contract (makes absolutely no sense)

3/11 - Caserio restructures Cooks contract. borrows $2.5MM from 2022, 2023, 2024 ($7.5MM). Restructure also cancels last year of contract. Cooks contract now expires after 2022 season.

3/18 - Caserio trades a 4th RD pick for Marcus Cannon who the Patriots were going to cut. The Texans cut him this year. Texans could've used that pick to draft Dan Moore starting OT for the Steelers.

3/20 -Caserio restructures Tunsil contract. By borrowing $10MM from future caps ($5MM 2022; $5MM 2023)

3/22 - Caserio trades for Shaq Lawson restructures contract, then trades Lawson to Jets, creates $1.8MM in Dead Cap Money. This really is a bonehead move and continues to bring into question does Caserio have any idea what he is doing?

3/23 - Caserio trades draft pick for Ryan Izzo. 8/31 Caserio cuts Izzo. - wasted draft pick
Caserio trades another draft pick for Ryan Finley. 5/24 - Caserio cuts Finley - another wasted draft pick

3/24 - Caserio restructures Mercilus contract. 10/19 - Caserio cuts Mercilus creating $7MM dead cap in 2022. Chalk up another bone head move.

3/30 - Caserio restructures Cunningham 4 year contract. Borrows $5.6MM from 2022, 2023, 2024. 12/8 - Nick cuts Cunningham. And the bone headed moves just keep on coming. Caserio at this point has clearly establish that he does not know what he's doing. He's flying by the seat of his pants and has no idea with this plane is flying.

4/29 - NFL Draft. Caserio uses (8) 2021 draft picks and (2) 2022 draft picks to draft (5) players. Don't forget Nick has already used 2 other draft picks on players he has cut. That's 12 draft picks to add 5 players to roster. There is no other way to explain this other than it is terrible management.

7/26 - Caserio trades for Anthony Miller. 10/6 - Caserio cuts Miller - another wasted draft pick. (Man, I sure do wish the Texans had that pick #148 today. Lots of good players still available at #148).

9/9 - Caserio trades Roby to Saints, restructuring contract to include eating $8.9MM in salary ($4.8MM in 2022). Value of 2nd rd pick, only gets a 3rd RD pick. Pick #49 looks a whole lot better than pick #80.

Nick Caserio created over $37MM in 2021 dead cap money. As a result Caserio had to restructure (5) contracts to create over $35MM in order to sign a bunch of over the hill 30 year olds to 1 year contracts in order to fill the roster.

Today Caserio is responsible for $51MM in reduction of 2022 salary cap thru dead cap he created. He started 2021 with $0 dead cap money in 2022, now has over $50MM.

Texans only had 27 players under contract in 2022, that's 10 players less than the avg team.

This is a mess, a clown show, a dumpster fire, absence of intelligent thought, lacking common sense and logic. An exercise in buffoonery, Tom Foolery, menopause brain, lacking in basic skills in accounting and economics.

Texans started 2021 season with 54 contracts and $6MM OVER the cap.

If Nick Caserio had made the following moves (below) they would've been $48MM UNDER the cap. That's $48 MILLION UNDER THE CAP. They would not of had to resort to mortgaging the future to the tune of OVER $35MM in contract restructuring, $37MM in Dead Cap in 2021 and would've added a 2nd rd draft pick. - TOTAL FISCAL IRRESPONSIBILITY
B. McKinneyRelease$7.00m
D. JohnsonRelease$6.90m
Z. FultonRelease$3.00m
Du. JohnsonRelease$5.15m
B. DunnRelease$3.25m
B. CooksTrade$12.00m
J. WattRelease$17.50m
Total Saved$54.80m
This is how 2022 started:


After hearing the Dolphins fired Flores, Caserio immediately fired Culley with eyes on hiring Flores. Since McDaniels had no interest in the Texans (I wonder why) Nick was going to hire the ex-Patriot Flores. I'm still not sure how Mark Davis was able to hire Josh McDaniels and Nick Caserio could not even get an interview? Can you help me out here @steelbtexan?

Oops, Flores files a lawsuit against the NFL and the Texans. No Flores for Nick or the Texans now. So after 3 interviews Caserio was ready to hire a person with no coaching experience at all as the new head coach, Josh McKown. Except now because of the lawsuit that makes hiring McKown a complete absolute PR nightmare for the Texans and the NFL. Caserio's only other option was Jonathan Gannon who withdrew after being told he could not hire is own coaching staff. At which point Nick Caserio falls down on his knees and screams like he's Zach Mayo, "I don't have nowhere else to go". At which point, Cal McNair, Cal McNair dammit, had to step in and hire Lovie Smith to finally put an end to all of this madness. Whew. That's 2 head coaching searches that turned into 2 nightmare horror stories.

and then there is the DW4 trade where Nick Caserio was able to get .70 on the dollar.

So, no I didn't wake up the day Caserio was hired and say I hate the guy. When I continually take a dump on Caserio, as you so eloquently describe it, it is because it is just like Smith Barney would describe it, every time Nick Caserio has been dumped on, he has done it the old fashion way, HE HAS EARNED IT.

In Lovie we Trust....

STAY TUNED.......DEVELOPING.......


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I decipher fine.

I just choose to spend my time reading contracts. You know, work stuff. After having to do that, I'm not going to spend my time reading a post like this one. I asked 2 simple questions and made 1 comment and you want me to read through all of this.

You're too long winded for me.

Carry on with posters that have more time than I do.
 

TexansBull

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I decipher fine.

I just choose to spend my time reading contracts. You know, work stuff. After having to do that, I'm not going to spend my time reading a post like this one. I asked 2 simple questions and made 1 comment and you want me to read through all of this.

You're too long winded for me.

Carry on with posters that have more time than I do.
It’s copy and paste recycled talking points.

He literally keeps a copy of his talking points and opinions and pasted them in.

Not worth reading.
 

TexansBull

Hall of Fame
Don’t forget that had it not been for the Flores lawsuit, Lovie is still not the choice and it’s likely a guy with ZERO experience.



I don’t know why you guys spend so much time and energy on these trolls and give them so much attention. I seriously don’t get it.
You spent more energy replying to me than I did to him.

And you exhibited the main reason why people reply to him. They like to feel that their opinion matters.
 

michaelm

vox nihili
4/29 - NFL Draft. Caserio uses (8) 2021 draft picks and (2) 2022 draft picks to draft (5) players.

This got me to wondering how the football world viewed the draft after the season had been played.
I have to admit that I'm surprised, but literally every article I could find is overwhelmingly positive about the Texans 2021 draft class.



Sports Illustrated
Feb 1, 2022
"Texans 2021 Draft Class Ranked Among NFL Best"

ESPN
Jan 26, 2022
"Texans' draft class second-best in the NFL"


NFL.COM
Feb 18, 2022

"2021 NFL rookie grades, AFC South: Texans maximize limited draft currency to easily top division"



Chron.com
Dec 7, 2021

"Did Texans’ Nick Caserio go 5-for-5 in last year’s draft? Looks like it."



Yardbarker.com
Feb 21, 2022

"Texans' 2021 Draft in Review: Best in AFC South?"




Pro Football Focus
Jan 27, 2022

"Pro Football Focus Ranks the 2021 NFL Rookie Classes

2. Houston Texans"

 

thunderkyss

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Actually from what has been said Easterby wanted him. Caserio wanted Gannon, who at least has been a coach, but Cal wanted to keep Lovie. As a defense minded coach there was no way Gannon was on board with that. So the answer is just make Lovie the HC.
I don't for one second believe Gannon was the pick if not for the lawsuit.
 

leebigeztx

Keep it Movin!
Then the story is that it is written in Jack’s contract that only the owner can fire him. So it kinda doesn’t matter what GM was hired.
When BOB was coach/gm he had the authority to fire Jack, but now somehow, he has this clause. Is that a coincidence?
 

Texian

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I decipher fine.

I just choose to spend my time reading contracts. You know, work stuff. After having to do that, I'm not going to spend my time reading a post like this one. I asked 2 simple questions and made 1 comment and you want me to read through all of this.
but at least you
You're too long winded for me.

Carry on with posters that have more time than I do.
Well you did ask what has Caserio done to set the franchise back. That is not a 2 sentence answer but at least you now have a chronological record you can peruse. Those contracts you are reading are now being negotiated by Jack Easterby so you have that going for you.
 

Texian

Hall of Fame
This got me to wondering how the football world viewed the draft after the season had been played.
I have to admit that I'm surprised, but literally every article I could find is overwhelmingly positive about the Texans 2021 draft class.



Sports Illustrated
Feb 1, 2022
"Texans 2021 Draft Class Ranked Among NFL Best"

ESPN
Jan 26, 2022
"Texans' draft class second-best in the NFL"


NFL.COM
Feb 18, 2022

"2021 NFL rookie grades, AFC South: Texans maximize limited draft currency to easily top division"



Chron.com
Dec 7, 2021

"Did Texans’ Nick Caserio go 5-for-5 in last year’s draft? Looks like it."



Yardbarker.com
Feb 21, 2022

"Texans' 2021 Draft in Review: Best in AFC South?"




Pro Football Focus
Jan 27, 2022r

"Pro Football Focus Ranks the 2021 NFL Rookie Classes

2. Houston Texans"

When your team is so terribly horribly awfully bad, it is rather easy to understand why 5 players of the top 250 in the NFL draft can make a team roster that is filled with mostly Lowes and Home Depot employees. Contrary to popular belief, using 13 draft picks to draft 5 players who can make a 53 man roster on team that is one of the worst in the league is not necessarily a good thing. It can be considered rather embarrassing.
 
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Texian

Hall of Fame
I don't for one second believe Gannon was the pick if not for the lawsuit.
Gannon was the pick, up until the moment he refused to accept Nick Caserio assistant coaches. So he withdrew his name. Why was Mark Davis, Raiders owner able to hire Josh McDaniels and Nick Caserio couldn't even get him to interview?
 

leebigeztx

Keep it Movin!
I
I do remember hearing something about him wanting a black GM when all the **** started hitting the fan when he demanded a trade. Don't recall where i read it but it was an article.
According to the op, Watson and crew wanted the Texans to be the blackest organization in the entire sports world. Its kinda like that fear of having a black president and every seat filled with black people or minorities. Thats why I think its bs, but you know how this board can run with things.
 
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