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All encompassing 2022 draft thoughts thread

I'm not really off of him, I'm not big on drafting OL coming off of ankle injuries. See: Nick Martin
There is something called competitive medical advantage. The Simmons kid in Nashville is one of those examples. Jameson Williams is probably the best player in the draft regardless of position. If Linderbaum is a probowl caliber center coming off surgery, if the team can get him in the 2nd rd, thats a win correct?
 
There is something called competitive medical advantage. The Simmons kid in Nashville is one of those examples. Jameson Williams is probably the best player in the draft regardless of position. If Linderbaum is a probowl caliber center coming off surgery, if the team can get him in the 2nd rd, thats a win correct?

I would rather draft a guy coming off of an ACL than a serious ankle injury. I've suffered many sprained ankles throughout the yrs and although I was far from an elite athlete, my ankles have never really been right.
 
My favorite WR is Alec Pierce, but barring a trade down or two, I don't see a chance of getting him. Christian Watson is my #2, and Skyy Moore/Calvin Austin III/Danny Gray are my #3. I didn't consider any of the top Alabama or OSU guys, because I think they'll go higher than they should.
 
3. Houston Texans
Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame

I'm not worried about the underwhelming 40-yard dash times he posted at the combine (4.59) and his pro day. Hamilton has rare versatility and traits for a safety, and he'd be an instant-impact player on the back end. Houston needs help everywhere, but considering it tied for the second-most yards allowed per play in the NFL last season (5.9), defense jumps out.
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Well I'm worried about the underwhelming 40 time because it's my teams pick you are talking about fool !
Oh please, please don't draft this slow-azz safety with that very valuable #3 overall, instead just use one of those third-rounders to draft a really big but slow CB, or a small but fast LB to play safety.
One of the unwritten axioms of the NFL in the 21st century is drafting speed to play defense whether it's an edge guy or somebody for the defensive backfield. C'mon they are even raving about speed for D-lineman, e.g. the GA NT.
 
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For those of you who want to draft a slow safety here's a good choice: Smallish LB (little bit under 240), but with a 4.63 he's got comparable speed to Hamilton and yet he's there for you in the third round, which leaves you the option to use your top pick for somebody who maybe started every year in college he played, each year at a different position, in the SEC like Evan Neal who at the very least is guaranteed to upgrade your offensive line in September, 2022..
 
There's a lot of name dropping to create interest in the pick. Lions are doing the same. The teams at the top of this draft are trying to move out of their pick.

There’s no consensus #1 pick in this draft. I guess the Jags and Lions will understand the Texans predicament in the 2014 NFL Draft. When there’s no real #1 entering the draft and teams are shying away from trading up then teams should should rethink their strategy and draft the player that best fits their agenda. This would be a great approach for 2022, mostly to avoid another Clowney fiasco. Had the Texans pushed all the media hype and unwritten draft rules aside and drafted Khalil Mack (a true OLB) versus Clowney…..who was going to be the second defensive lineman the Texans staff had drafted knowing they were going to convert him to OLB….their defense would’ve been much further ahead right out of the gate.
 
Air Force has DE, Jordan Jackson that is pretty interesting. He’s under a current rule that would allow him to play football if drafted….I believe. Navy has no prospects hitting the draft this go round.

I stand corrected. Navy has an ILB, Diego Fagot that is 2022 draft eligible. He’s 6-2 @ 237 lbs. His 30.7” Arm length may hurt his chances.
 
Hassan Haskins

We were thrilled to see you participate in some capacity. Which teams did you meet with formally throughout the week, and do you have any virtual visits, or top-30 in-person visits coming up?

HH: I met with the Broncos, Ravens, and Giants at the combine. I’ve had so many virtual meetings. It’s tough to recall all of them. My schedule has been crazy (laughs). The month of March was crazy for me. I’ve been meeting with a bunch of teams virtually. They’ve been calling my phone. I can’t recall every team I’ve met with, but I know I met with the Texans, Cowboys, Jaguars, and Saints to name a few. Those are the ones that come to mind.
 
This isn't a very scientific survey or analysis. What is the average arm length for men that size? There may be a much smaller sample size of LBs with arms under 31". Also, the reasoning for preferred arm length is flawed. Increased arm length allows a defender to grab the pads or the jersey of the blocker and keep the blocker from getting to the defenders body. And an inch or two length may help making a shoestring tackle. But you want defenders to lead with their shoulder.

Just too simplistic of an assertion to draw relevance, in this instance.
 


Big questions: A falling prospect, plus a debate at OT
How far could Oregon defensive end Kayvon Thibodeaux drop?

Miller:
One year ago, as we looked ahead to this draft class, the Oregon pass-rusher was in the mix to be the No. 1 overall prospect. Now, a month from the start of Round 1, Thibodeaux is one of the most polarizing prospects in the class. Following a breakout true freshman season in 2019 in which he posted nine sacks, he struggled through a pandemic-shortened 2020 and had just three sacks in seven games -- a stat his supporters would point to as productive considering the attention opposing offensive lines were giving him. The concerns began last season, however, when Thibodeaux left the Ducks' Week 1 game in a walking boot.
Now, as scouts and general managers assemble their final rankings, Thibodeaux is falling in the eyes of NFL teams as opposed to competing to be the No. 1 pick. Here's what I know about the reasons behind his drop:


  • Production: Thibodeaux didn't show the quickness and burst expected on his way to seven sacks and 12 tackles for loss -- good numbers, but not those expected of a player deemed a front-runner for the No. 1 pick. Beyond those numbers, scouts and front-office execs with whom I've spoken have praised his talent but consistently questioned his motor. "Lack of fire" is not the type of label prospects want.

  • Interviews: Reporting on prospects' interviews with NFL teams is always tough because I want to be fair to the player, which is why it's important to not report information gleaned from a single source. More than half a dozen scouts have told me that Thibodeaux did not impress in interviews with their teams. The word consistently used to describe his interviews is "poor." That's a red flag, especially for teams looking to use a premium pick.

  • Injury: Thibodeaux sprained his ankle in September, an injury that takes time to heal. One scout charged with evaluating Thibodeaux, however, thought that he was timid after the injury and said that those within the Oregon program agreed.
Of course, the above concerns could be for naught, as it takes only one team to love a prospect. The Lions or Texans could take Thibodeaux at No. 2 or 3, but the word from sources in the league is that Thibodeaux is expected to be drafted outside the top five picks and could even be selected outside the top 10.

Looking at the draft order, if the Seahawks (No. 9) and Jets (No. 10) don't select Thibodeaux, he could slide further, as Washington, Minnesota, Houston and Baltimore are not expected to select pass-rushers at picks Nos. 11-14. A lot can change once the draft starts and panic sets in, but one month out it's not unrealistic to think Thibodeaux could be on the board for the Eagles at No. 15.




Who will be the first offensive tackle selected: Ikem Ekwonu or Evan Neal?
Reid:
This is a deep tackle class, with potentially four going in the top 20 picks, but Ekwonu and Neal are in a tier by themselves. Opinions are mixed across the league, however, on who is the top guy.

Having scouted both up close on multiple occasions last season, each is as good as advertised. At 6-foot-4, 320 pounds, Ekwonu is an explosive player who played both guard and tackle at NC State. He turned into a stalwart at left tackle over the past two seasons, showing outstanding play strength and nastiness when finishing blocks. The area that scouts want to see him improve is his over-aggressiveness in pass sets, which leads to him giving up inside pressure.

The 6-foot-7, 337-pound Neal has one of the most impressive frames that you will see for a player at the position. Nimble for his size, his physical tools stand out on tape, but it's his positional flexibility that has most helped his game. Neal began his career at right guard before transitioning to right tackle and ending his junior season at left tackle. Where could he improve? Balance and consistently finishing are the two elements that have come up most when asking scouts.

The clock for Ekwonu and Neal starts with the Texans at No. 3, but there isn't yet a consensus on which player Houston will take. Could Neal's experience playing against SEC opponents every week win out? Here's what an area scout told me at Alabama's pro day earlier this week: "I like Neal a lot," he said. "The fact that he's done it at a high level in the SEC and played tackle on both sides makes me like him more." -- Reid



How good is this running back class? Let's find their best fits
Breece Hall, Iowa State
What he does best: Everything. Hall is a classic three-down back with instant NFL starter ability. Throughout his Iowa State career, he showed both inside and outside vision, speed to break away on chunk plays and the hands to impress in the passing game. His combination of size (5-11, 217) and speed (4.39-second 40-yard dash) to wow teams with his ability to step in as a true featured back.
Where he could fit: The end of Round 1 is Hall's sweet spot. The Bills (No. 25 overall) could definitely look for a do-it-all back with speed. The same goes for the Buccaneers (No. 27), even after re-signing Leonard Fournette. Should he make it to Round 2, the Texans (No. 37) are a fit. -- Miller



James Cook, Georgia
What he does best:
Versatility is the name of Cook's game. He can run between the tackles, but his calling card in the NFL will come on perimeter runs and creative ways to use his pass-catching ability. Because of his ability to accelerate and generate explosive plays, he could become a popular target to add to a committee.
Where he could fit: Early-to-mid third round is the likely landing spot for Cook, but it wouldn't surprise me if he goes even earlier than that. The Texans (No. 80) and Giants (No. 81) make sense, but his floor could be the Dolphins (No. 102), who have a versatile offensive system in which he could thrive. -- Reid
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Pierre Strong Jr., South Dakota State
What he does best:
Strong is a creative back with game-changing speed (4.37-second 40) and explosiveness. He makes defenders miss with awesome field vision and the speed to pull away for chunk yardage. He's also strong and wiry enough to bounce off tacklers and keep going after first contact.
Where he could fit: Give Strong to a team running outside zone and watch him run free. The Dolphins (No. 102), Chiefs (No. 103), 49ers (No. 105) or Texans (No. 107) are all fits. -- Miller
 
This is an interesting read. I personally think that RB is a need, but I wouldn’t take one at #37. I think WR, edge, or OL would be in play over RB there.
I think depth at the position in this draft may make me feel the opposite. RB is razor thin, with two guys ready to step in immediately as impact players. While at WR, the depth will last through the 3rd round. And what is going to take more pressure off a sophomore QB? A #3 WR or a lead RB?
 
I think depth at the position in this draft may make me feel the opposite. RB is razor thin, with two guys ready to step in immediately as impact players. While at WR, the depth will last through the 3rd round. And what is going to take more pressure off a sophomore QB? A #3 WR or a lead RB?
Just curious L, who do you have as your top 3 backs? ( In this draft)
 
Two players I would love to see at 37 (but think they are going to sneak into back half of round 1)…

Jalen Pitre and Skyy Moore. Elite acceleration, super shifty and alpha personality swagger you can see watching them play. Some team will get lucky adding these guys. When you look up the term FOOTBALL PLAYER they are it.

Texans would be extremely exciting if they can add one of these players to the team.
 
Two players I would love to see at 37 (but think they are going to sneak into back half of round 1)…

Jalen Pitre and Skyy Moore. Elite acceleration, super shifty and alpha personality swagger you can see watching them play. Some team will get lucky adding these guys. When you look up the term FOOTBALL PLAYER they are it.

Texans would be extremely exciting if they can add one of these players to the team.
I am 100% there with you! In my mock draft simulators I’ve been looking at either of those players with 37
 
Two players I would love to see at 37 (but think they are going to sneak into back half of round 1)…

Jalen Pitre and Skyy Moore. Elite acceleration, super shifty and alpha personality swagger you can see watching them play. Some team will get lucky adding these guys. When you look up the term FOOTBALL PLAYER they are it.

Texans would be extremely exciting if they can add one of these players to the team.

I'm really big on Skyy Moore at 37. I do like Pierce alot at 68. Give me Sting at 107 or Georgia's White at 108 and Ingram in the 6th. Over Hall or Walker in the 2nd.
 
I’d go Breece Hall in RD2 and Strong, Jr in RD4. Both of these guys possess 4.3+-40’s. I’d go with WR, Alec Pierce in RD3. I think the 3 of these guys would be solid additions if there’s no trades to add extra picks.

Hall would be nice but I don’t think he makes it out of 2nd and would rather fill other needs that high. I have one of the Texans’ 4ths earmarked for a RB. My shopping list in that range is:

Dameon Pierce, Zamir White, Hassan Haskins, Brian Robinson.
 
When I look at pass catchers one thing I like to see is 10” hands. Sure players can be good at catching the ball with small hands but I like seeing a big pair of mitts on a player.

Hopkins had 10” hands.

Three WRs I hope the Texans are targeting in the draft: Skyy Moore (10 1/4”!!), Christian Watson (10 1/8”) and Jalen Tolbert (10”).

Three TEs: Trey Mcbride (10 1/8”), Jeremy Ruckert (10”) and Charlie Kolar (10”).
 
Hall would be nice but I don’t think he makes it out of 2nd and would rather fill other needs that high. I have one of the Texans’ 4ths earmarked for a RB. My shopping list in that range is:

Dameon Pierce, Zamir White, Hassan Haskins, Brian Robinson.

One of those RB's will likely be there at 107 maybe 2-3 of them. Who do you like the most?
 
So you're taking Sting off the draft board? What about this Sting? I see him more as a edge rusher.

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No longevity. Athletic but not a player. Never made it in his Chosen profession. Quick without researching can anyone name his former teammate's name? Hint he was the Ultimate at something... Couple has beens never successful.

All said tongue in cheek.
 
Skyy Moore doesn't seem to posses the physical numbers that says he would be a adequate slot guy. 12 ypc in college is below average and his short shuttle and 3 cone doesn't say shifty. Watching him tells me he's a mid round pick at best. JMO
 
Lets talk the Tulsa OL prospects. Everybody knows about Tyler Smith and he would be a great fit as a mauling OG. But he’ll have to be taken at 37 (if he makes it there).

Lovie is a Tulsa alum and a former LB coach at that school. We know he has already reached out to them to ask about recent waiver wire acquisition Reggie Robinson and I suspect he’s inquired about their draft prospects as well.

The one I am focusing in on is Chris Paul. I could see him taken with one of the three sixths or packaged to move up into the fifth to get him if they are locked in on him.

Everything about him screams “culture fit, great locker room guy”. Plus he is from Houston.

He checks off the size/length boxes and is plenty athletic to play NFL OG. All of his cons look to be correctable with coaching (plays too high, inconsistent weight distribution in pass sets).

He was a four year starter at Tulsa (two at guard and two at tackle). I could see the Texans getting a blue chip prospect in the first to be immediately inserted into the starting lineup and then get a developmental guy like Paul in a later round that could beat out Scharping or Mccray for a roster spot then possibly win a starting spot next year.

Read this write up and tell me you can’t already hear Lovie and Caserio talking in their post draft press conference about how he “fits the culture”.



 
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