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Head Coach Candidate (Lovie Smith Hired) 2/7/22

steelbtexan said:
After seeing last yrs OL this isn't a great loss.

Gotta find a HC that has the connections to the best OL coach possible. Tell me what type of offense the Texans are gong to run 1st though. This is why I think by the end of the week the next HC will be hired. After all, this is Sr. Bowl week.
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I thought you loved you some 2021 OL and the BIG steps forward they were making?
 
Number19 said:
Is Munchak available? Would he be a good hire?
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Absolutely.

If I was Caserio, I would be at the Sr. Bowl and I would have a bag of cash. I would tell Munch, we are going to hire X as HC and here's this big bag of cash, we want you to be Asst. HC/OL Coach/Run game Coordinator. I look at Munch as the next Gibbs.

If Munch turned me down, the next guy I would be visiting with would be Marrone. I was really hoping a new HC hire would happen before the Sr. Bowl. Oh well,
 
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steelbtexan said:
Absolutely.

If I was Caserio, I would be at the Sr. Bowl and I would have a bag of cash. I would tell Munch, we are going to hire X as HC and he's this big bag of cash, we want you to be Asst. HC/OL Coach/Run game Coordinator. I look at Munch as the next Gibbs.

If Munch turned me down, the next guy I would be visiting with would be Marrone. I was really hoping a new HC hire would happen before the Sr. Bowl. Oh well,
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Why would a WCO/ZBS guy want anything to do with a Patriot offense system? Especially after they've stocked their OL with Perkins-Erhardt athletes? And that bag of cash, would likely end up putting the Texans in Goodell jail.
 
Texian said:
I thought you loved you some 2021 OL and the BIG steps forward they were making?
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I thought the issues were on the coaching and with Taylor/Britt added plus improvement from Howard/Scharping and healthy from Tunsil I expected a middle of the pack OL.

None of this happened, so now I want the best OL talent possible added in the draft and the best OL coach hired possible. If this means Cal has to break out the 7 figure checkbook to get a guy like Munch then so be it. I want the young drafted talent to learn from the best.
 
Texian said:
So you think Carr going from a WCO to a pocket passer Perkins-Erhardt offense is the answer and will propel Carr to making a BIG step forward?
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Carr finished the season as the 10th rated QB. So….making a “big step” isn’t exactly necessary. He needs to clean-up his TO’s. Overall, I think the new offense could fit Carr just fine.
 
frethack said:
O'Connell could be added since we have already had a 1st interview. Who would you ideally like to see added?

I could get on board with Gannon or O'Connell...possibly Flores, but Im highly suspicious of the way Flores exited Miami and his agent.
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Harbaugh
Lombardi
Kubiak Jr
Fickell
Do your due diligence in all phases of the hiring process.
Someone could come in and blow your doors off that you weren’t expecting.
 
Texian said:
Why would a WCO/ZBS guy want anything to do with a Patriot offense system? Especially after they've stocked their OL with Perkins-Erhardt athletes? And that bag of cash, would likely end up putting the Texans in Goodell jail.
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When Munchak and Mathews were playing for the Oilers, I don't think they were playing ZBS. Munch should be familiar with all phases of OL play.
 
Texian said:
Why would a WCO/ZBS guy want anything to do with a Patriot offense system? Especially after they've stocked their OL with Perkins-Erhardt athletes? And that bag of cash, would likely end up putting the Texans in Goodell jail.
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We dont know what type of system the next HC is going to run. Munch has played/coached in all types of systems. Power scheme at Penis St. and his 1st couple of yrs with the Oilers. R &S/Power scheme with Pittsburgh/ZBS when he was HC in Tackville) and more of a power scheme when he was with Denver. All of these OL's had one thing in common, they improved with Mike Munchak in the building.

Screw God'ell, if it takes a bag of cash to get my guy, I'm showing up with a bag of cash. LOL
 
Jack Burton said:
Harbaugh
Lombardi
Kubiak Jr
Fickell
Do your due diligence in all phases of the hiring process.
Someone could come in and blow your doors off that you weren’t expecting.
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I'm all for more interviews and Lombardi was 2nd on my list of who I would like to be the next HC of the Texans.

I really dont want Klint, we've seen where that leads too. (Mediocrity) or no college HC's. This isn't the right time to be taking that risk. IMHO

The same reason I'm against the McCown HC hire.
 
I feel like some of you have started to develop positive opinions on McCown as HC for no other reason than resignation that it will happen.
Like you've accepted that it is going to happen, so you're preemptively protecting yourselves by creating reasons why it's not a colossally bad and embarrassing idea.
 
steelbtexan said:
I'm all for more interviews and Lombardi was 2nd on my list of who I would like to be the next HC of the Texans.

I really dont want Klint, we've seen where that leads too. (Mediocrity) or no college HC's. This isn't the right time to be taking that risk. IMHO

The same reason I'm against the McCown HC hire.
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I like Lombardi’s pedigree with QB‘s.
I still say give Klint an interview. Their giving interviews to guys with zero experience.
Ask Kubiak that question during the interview and state it as fact.
“What do you think about the mediocrity at times with your dads coaching and the results?”
See how he responds.
He might just blow you away with his answer.
 
michaelm said:
I feel like some of you have started to develop positive opinions on McCown as HC for no other reason than resignation that is a foregone conclusion.
Like you've accepted that it is going to happen, so you're preemptively protecting yourselves by creating reasons why it's not a colossally bad and embarrassing idea.
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Goes back the other way too buddy.....Dismissing it all together with 0 consideration b/c................you think its a collossally bad and embarrassing idea.....
 
Mr teX said:
Goes back the other way too buddy.....Dismissing it all together with 0 consideration b/c................you think its a collossally bad and embarrassing idea.....
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Not sure who you're referring to. I did give it consideration.
That's how I concluded that it's a colossally bad and embarrassing idea.
 
steelbtexan said:
So wih a McCown hire,

1. He's good with X/O's
2. He's on the same page as the FO
3. He should be good with the staff, because McCown and Lovie have a close relationship.
4. He should be good in the lockerrom with the players because he just recently retired and should be able to deal ith the off field stuff, because of this.

5.The only thing that he may or may not do well with is dealing with the media.
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1. Completely unknown.
2. At least someone in the FO.
3. Except maybe those with more qualifications (which would be everyone on staff) that think the good old boy system leaped frogged him to the top.
4. He's been buddies with some in the locker room. Never an authority figure. Completely different dynamic.
5. Probably the least of the concerns.
 
michaelm said:
I feel like some of you have started to develop positive opinions on McCown as HC for no other reason than resignation that it will happen.
Like you've accepted that it is going to happen, so you're preemptively protecting yourselves by creating reasons why it's not a colossally bad and embarrassing idea.
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I may have been the first to say I would be OK with McCown and not because of resignation. I disagree with the position that it would be "a colossal bad and embarrassing idea". Whether anyone cares to recognize it, McCown has an out-of-the-box appeal with positive attributes.
 
Number19 said:
McCown has an out-of-the-box appeal
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Is this the right organization to go "out of the box" at this point? What about the other "out of the box" ideas the Texans have already tried?

1. Combined GM/HC role (O'Brien)
2. Character coach as interim GM (Jack)
3. 65 year old position coach hired as head coach to begin a rebuild (Culley)
4. GM on the headset during games (Caserio)

I don't know? Conventional is starting to look pretty good about now.
 
DBCooper said:
Just to be clear there is only one Snake!

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Wait a dern minuted, I thought this guy was the snake??!

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This is Snake Plissken, and if he can help the president escape from New York, then maybe he can help the Texans escape from Suckville.

michaelm said:
I feel like some of you have started to develop positive opinions on McCown as HC for no other reason than resignation that it will happen.
Like you've accepted that it is going to happen, so you're preemptively protecting yourselves by creating reasons why it's not a colossally bad and embarrassing idea.
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Yep. Lots of contrarians here just to be devil's advocates apparently. I doubt many folks truly believe that McCown is qualified in any sort of way to be HC, but at least they will be there to toot their own horns if he wins a few games next season.

Funny thing about folks bragging about the so-called "Koolaid brigade". Do they not know the origin of "drinking koolaide" and that everyone that drank it died after being brainwashed by a lying preacher man? It's odd and being gullible to propaganda is not something that I'd normally be proud of. But, that's just me.
 
thunderkyss said:
With McDaniels in Vegas & not taking a look at Mayo, it’s getting harder to believe there was a plan at all.
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You're assuming they didn't talk to Mayo. They may have and got the thanks but no thanks response. Which in this case, it would not have been reported.
 
michaelm said:
Not sure who you're referring to. I did give it consideration.
That's how I concluded that it's a colossally bad and embarrassing idea.
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Ehh, to each their own, he ain't my 1st choice, but i won't dismiss the idea the guy could be successful either; even without him having any official titles where he was a coach. & That seems to be what alot of people are doing here and elsewhere.

Im sure alot of the Bengal faithful poo poo'ed the Zac Taylor hiring too. Dude went from a qb coach position to the top spot with only like 1/2 a season as an official coordinator title (interim tag). I bet they're not poo poo'ing it now tho.
 
Mr teX said:
Ehh, to each their own, he ain't my 1st choice, but i won't dismiss the idea the guy could be successful either; even without him having any official titles where he was a coach. & That seems to be what alot of people are doing here and elsewhere.

Im sure alot of the Bengal faithful poo poo'ed the Zac Taylor hiring too. Dude went from a qb coach position to the top spot with only like 1/2 a season as an official coordinator title (interim tag). I bet they're not poo poo'ing it now tho.
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Quite a bit of coaching experience


From Wikipedia

Zac Taylor

As a coach:
Texas A&M (2008–2011)
Graduate assistant
Miami Dolphins (2012)
Assistant quarterbacks coach
Miami Dolphins (2013–2014)
Quarterbacks coach
Miami Dolphins (2015)
Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach
University of Cincinnati (2016)
Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach
Los Angeles Rams (2017)
Assistant wide receivers coach
Los Angeles Rams (2018)
Quarterbacks coach
Cincinnati Bengals (2019–present)
Head coach
 
michaelm said:
Quite a bit of coaching experience


From Wikipedia

Zac Taylor


As a coach:
Texas A&M (2008–2011)
Graduate assistant
Miami Dolphins (2012)
Assistant quarterbacks coach
Miami Dolphins (2013–2014)
Quarterbacks coach
Miami Dolphins (2015)
Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach
University of Cincinnati (2016)
Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach
Los Angeles Rams (2017)
Assistant wide receivers coach
Los Angeles Rams (2018)
Quarterbacks coach
Cincinnati Bengals (2019–present)
Head coach
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Yeah a bunch of minor coach & assistant qb coach positions. What the hell does an "assistant" qb coach do anyway? Download and cut up game tape? Shag balls during drills? Come on. Certainly not much in any major leadership positions that would indicate he'd be any more capable as a HC than someone without those positions credited to them. So what it comes down to is you're saying he's that much better of a candidate to be HC than say a McCown JUST b/c he called plays for like 8 games once for a garbage Miami offense.

No he was snatched up as a HC b/c he shared an office with Sean McVay...He wasn't very qualified then & that's still the case now. It just looks different now b/c he has done the improbable and taken his team to a SB. But make no mistake about it, he wasn't really all that qualified then..At least according to how you guys see it. The Bengals took a chance & it paid off for them.
 
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Mr teX said:
a bunch of minor coach & assistant qb coach positions & certainly not much in any major leadership positions that would indicate he'd be any more capable as a HC than someone without those positions credited to them. So what it comes down to is you're saying he's that much better of a candidate to be HC than say a McCown JUST b/c he called plays for like 8 games once for a garbage Miami offense.

No he was snatched up as a HC b/c he shared an office with Sean McVay...That's all it was then & that's all it is now. It just looks different now b/c he has done the improbable and taken his team to a SB.
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I'm not saying anything other than he has more coaching experience than you alluded to.
 
michaelm said:
I'm not saying anything other than he has more coaching experience than you alluded to.
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I only alluded to that b/c that's the only experience that really stands out. All that other coaching experience doesn't really & im willing to be he wasn't asked about any of that when he interviewed too.
 
Lucky said:
Best possible scenario. Don't know why he would take the job. I'm sure there will be better offers, now or down the line. Just hope this happens.
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Agreed. Of those the known finalists:

1. O'Connell
2. Gannon
3. Flores (would be 2 if not for his agent)
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947. McCown

Only guessing, but looks like we wont be interviewing any new candidates if they are rapid firing the second interviews now.
 
michaelm said:
Could "completed discussions" be interpreted as they are done with those guys and they aren't going to hire any of them?

610 is interpreting it as saying these three are the finalists
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It would be disappointing if O'Connell werent considered among the finalists
 
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