Find your QB, (Which I think Caserio has) and most of these concerns vanish
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2022 Simulator Mock Drafts
- Thread starter beerlover
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Find your QB, (Which I think Caserio has) and most of these concerns vanish
beerlover
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A franchise QB also exposes holes you do have, needs that must be addressed, with as little wasted motion (cap space) as possible to build around him.
True and that's what I think we saw the last month of the season when Mills was playing really well.
yeah I was regretting the way I worded that
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
I'm hamstrung doing the mock.
If Hamilton is there at 3 I'm taking him, no trade.
Unless there is another Ditka out there.
But what do I know. I'm disappointed if I miss out on Rasheed Walker OT Penn St. , Richaad White RB Arizona St (my favorite RB in the draft) and unranked
OT Cordell Volston N. Dakota St. Ratings are all over the place, but I'd draft him.
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If Hamilton is there at 3 I'm taking him, no trade.
Unless there is another Ditka out there.
But what do I know. I'm disappointed if I miss out on Rasheed Walker OT Penn St. , Richaad White RB Arizona St (my favorite RB in the draft) and unranked
OT Cordell Volston N. Dakota St. Ratings are all over the place, but I'd draft him.
Cordell Volson, NDSU OT | NFL Draft Scouting Report
As revealed in his 2022 NFL Draft scouting report, NDSU OT Cordell Volson is an experienced and versatile mauler with Day 3 potential.
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beerlover
Hall of Fame
I'm hamstrung doing the mock.
If Hamilton is there at 3 I'm taking him, no trade.
Unless there is another Ditka out there.
But what do I know. I'm disappointed if I miss out on Rasheed Walker OT Penn St. , Richaad White RB Arizona St (my favorite RB in the draft) and unranked
OT Cordell Volston N. Dakota St. Ratings are all over the place, but I'd draft him.
Cordell Volson, NDSU OT | NFL Draft Scouting Report
As revealed in his 2022 NFL Draft scouting report, NDSU OT Cordell Volson is an experienced and versatile mauler with Day 3 potential.
that’s half the fun of it. Volston is excellent developmental prospect with high ceiling, playing high level position (LT) just the profile you look for.
This is a very solid RB class that has potential for great rewards on the cheap, Richaad is well rounded, deceptively quick back, reminds me of Austin Eckler. The above mock I targeted two backs to split the load, both could be bell cows in own right, Damien Pierce, Florida and Tyler Aglleier, BYU. Just love this pairing to help Mills, both are solid chippers/blockers Pierce is especially tough, Aglleier I’m hoping for Arian Foster, Pierce maybe Marshall Faulk. Would be so cool to see them compete and give Houston a great running game to balance Mills arm.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Breece Hall and Rachaad White are my desired pairing. 6-1 and 6-2 at 215 and 220 pounds respectfully. Both are cut and go runners with speed, can block and are above average receivers out of the backfield. What I could see happening, by 2024…both of these backs could get stronger and faster while carrying 225 to 230 pounds which would put both into an Arian Foster type of mold, physically.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
We can only imagine the possibilities
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
A safety worth a look. Seems to be moving up each mock I do.
I like this guy alot.
A RB that I've been checking out that I like alot is Fla St. RB Jashaun Corbin. Guy's a big fast talented dude. Played on a bad team but kinda reminds me of Cook.
This would certainly improve the woeful run defense
beerlover
Hall of Fame
DeMarvin Leal, was considered one of the top defensive linemen in the 2022 NFL Draft. Leal was arrested in Collin County, Texas on December 18th, 2021. Leal was arrested for Possession of Marijuana less than 2 ounces. I would be all over this selection, but doubt Texans would.
beerlover
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Try this one more time. If Hutchinson is there, don’t know how Texans could pass on him, unless great trade offer (I didn’t get one). Like idea of safety early to lead secondary. Ready to plug and play RT position is becoming more valued and needed, with all these young franchise QB’s. Last spot in 3rd rd to address one. Want a Bell Cow RB1. Texans don’t have much there, possibly weakest link on roster and Mills needs someone he can hand off to, take the heat off. Get a quality DT and OG mid rounds then finish with depth needs at LT, TE and OC.
Why is Pierce listed as a HB? Is he a RB or an H-Back?
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Half Back is old terminology, back in the day when a Full Back (FB) was more part of the offense usually lead blocker for the Half Back (HB).
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Lewis Cine is someone I never expected to go this high, part of that Georgia defense so one has to ask themselves is really that good or just a function of that team? To be honest both. Would be nice if you can isolate each one to get a proper evaluation.
Just a very realistic Saftey option for those who like Hamilton but don’t believe Texans select safety #3 overall (would draft Hamilton if Caserio trades down to 5th or 6th and adds more draft capital but who knows).
Lewis falls into that early to mid second round area where teams identify a big role and need. PFF has him ranked #27th overall, but feel that’s bit of a reach. He was top prospect available on the board 2nd rd. when Texans pick. Fair.
Daxton Hill, Michigan is another possibility #33 overall, slotted as CB but could also fill safety role just not as big and strong as Lewis. Jordan Davis draft grade #36 is meaningless for me, he is a 1st rd tackle all day, maybe #17 to the Chargers replacing 33 year old Linval Joseph. High character, elite size/strength ratio, rare prospect.
Just a very realistic Saftey option for those who like Hamilton but don’t believe Texans select safety #3 overall (would draft Hamilton if Caserio trades down to 5th or 6th and adds more draft capital but who knows).
Lewis falls into that early to mid second round area where teams identify a big role and need. PFF has him ranked #27th overall, but feel that’s bit of a reach. He was top prospect available on the board 2nd rd. when Texans pick. Fair.
Daxton Hill, Michigan is another possibility #33 overall, slotted as CB but could also fill safety role just not as big and strong as Lewis. Jordan Davis draft grade #36 is meaningless for me, he is a 1st rd tackle all day, maybe #17 to the Chargers replacing 33 year old Linval Joseph. High character, elite size/strength ratio, rare prospect.
So you enjoyed watching the offense last season. I would argue that they were far worse than the defense. I'm more for giving Mills the tools so that he can succeed. But if Neal is gone and Hamilton is there, he's my pick. Talent over need.
You seem to have missed
Understandable being the first sentence & all. Takes a lot of mental facility to remember the first sentence after reading the last.
So where do you stand (Seems like you're sitting on the fence to me) do you want to spend the higher (Doesn't have to be 1-3) to give Mills some help or do you want to go defense and buildup a bad azz defense this yr and work on the offense in the 2023 draft/FA?
There's a case to be made either way.
You could do alot worse than having a draft like this.
1-3 Hamilton
2-37 Jermaine Johnson
3-67 Mario Goodrich
3-80 Chad Muma
I guess I’m sitting on the fence.
I don’t know one college player from the next. Most of my comments regarding them is based on position, hype, & comments made by my respected fellow members.
I’m also not as down on our offense as some as they pretty much did what we expected the limited Kelly to produce.
also considering year 2 of the ZBS should be much better, that is if Campen sticks around.
I don’t think I’ve seen a mock here that I absolutely hate. But I do like some more than others.
Edit: just learned Campen is moving on
A safety prospect I like at 80 or even more at 115 is Cook from Cincy.
xtruroyaltyx
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My First Crack at it.
I made some trades
4. Kyle Hamilton, S
28. Tyler Linderbaum, OC
79. Jake Ferguson, TE
80. Jalen Pitre, S
120. Tyler Smith, OL
134. Calvin Austin III, WR
183. Marcus Jones, CB
206. Jack Sanborn, LB
213. Emeka Emezie, WR
220. Abram Smith, RB
237. Clarence Hicks, LB
I made some trades
4. Kyle Hamilton, S
28. Tyler Linderbaum, OC
79. Jake Ferguson, TE
80. Jalen Pitre, S
120. Tyler Smith, OL
134. Calvin Austin III, WR
183. Marcus Jones, CB
206. Jack Sanborn, LB
213. Emeka Emezie, WR
220. Abram Smith, RB
237. Clarence Hicks, LB
beerlover
Hall of Fame
You remember Jaquiski Tartt, coming out of Samford, been a few years now maybe 5 or 6? Elite size, 6-1 215 NFL body strong in run support but not so much coverage and surely not a ballhawk which is really what you want. Well San Francisco drafted him, you saw him drop that wide open interception that may have sealed the game. Anyway he was drafted early in the second round I believe.
Lewis Cine is faster, just as physical in run support and IS a Ballhawk. Very durable too. So instead of just a box safety he can play both positions like Reid.
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I'm not spending a 2nd rd pick in this draft on a S unless there's a rade down and even then I like Brisker/Hill ahead of Cine although I do like Cine.
Who would you compare Cine to in coverage and tackling skills?
beerlover
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No two players are just alike but grade wise pretty close to a Jesse Bates, Bengals 2nd rd. 2018 54th selection. Cine is more athletic/explosive and better tackler, Bates more cerebral, reads coverages.
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beerlover
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RB: DAMEON PIERCE, FLORIDA
Draft Board Rank: 79th
2021 Overall Grade: 92.0
Pierce already turned heads with his measurables when he checked in at a rocked-up 5-foot-9, 220 pounds. That is one loaded back, and it shows on the field. This past season, he broke 39 tackles on 100 carries while also scoring 13 times. His 93.5 rushing grade was the highest in college football.
OL CORDELL VOLSON, NORTH DAKOTA STATE BISON
PFF Big Board Rank (before the week): 197th
Volson has been a secret superstar at the Shrine Bowl. The former North Dakota State tackle and future NFL guard plays with aggression and is strong throughout his frame. Volson boasts top-notch grip strength but isn’t the most fleet of foot, and he has a tendency to attack with wide hands. Still, that hasn’t stopped him from winning in Shrine Bowl practice. He lost just one of his first 18 pass-block reps en route to the second-highest pass-blocking grade in practices so far.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
Won't have to if Hamilton still there @#3
No need to complicate things. Taking Kingsley Enagbare @3 if Hamiltons gone.However...I'd complicate things myself, I'm taking Carson Strong given the chance later.
And I like Mills.Are there any sleepers you hope we take a look at?
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Won't have to if Hamilton still there @#3
However...I'd complicate things myself, I'm taking Carson Strong given the chance later.
Are there any sleepers you hope we take a look at?
Sleeps I like are Noah Ellis/Jesse Luketa/Reed Blankenship/Austin Allen/Keontay Ingram/Ty Chandler/Bamidele Oliseni
beerlover
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Won't have to if Hamilton still there @#3
However...I'd complicate things myself, I'm taking Carson Strong given the chance later.
Are there any sleepers you hope we take a look at?
Easterby?
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
Only one I've looked at. I've selected him a a few mocks. I'll take a look at the others.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Huh?..
that’s what I said, Taking Kingsley Enagbare
but you had me at, I like Mills
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
that’s what I said, Taking Kingsley Enagbare
but you had me at, I like Mills
For a minute there I thought Brandon had inadvertently got lost again and entered the "mock draft " thread.
beerlover
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For a minute there I thought Brandon had inadvertently got lost again and entered the "mock draft " thread.
It's all good, we speak in codes
Speaking of codes, don't want to post simulator results as it would seem too farfetched, but what if Caserio trades down from pick #3 then from whatever pick, but let's say in top 10, he trades down again late teens early 20's? Can you imagine the quality and quantity of roster upgrades could be executed?
My target is Tyler Linderbaum. With a young QB there is no more important position than Center. From positional value, Centers are low end value, but he is the exception. In those trade down's (love to add a first from Watson trade possibly day of draft) cheery on top would be one of this years stud WR’s for Mills as well. Any of these terrific young receiver's - Garrett Wilson, Treylon Burks, Drake London, Chris Olave, Jamison Williams and Jahan Dotson.
Now go-ahead fellow Texan draft -nicks try this exercise and see what could be
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beerlover
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To make this happen will be dependent on DeShaun Watson trade (1st rd). Team most discussed is Carolina Panthers followed by Washington Commanders and Pittsburgh Steelers.
Using PFF simulator, using pick #7 (Panthers) Texans would get a shot at the #1 WR in the draft, Garrett Wilson, Ohio State. Using Commanders pick #11 Treylon Burks, Arkansas. Steelers #18 Chris Olave, Ohio State. Plus whatever picks thrown into each teams offer….. Add that WR to this Simulator, mind you control of two number 1’s offer even more options/variance.
Using PFF simulator, using pick #7 (Panthers) Texans would get a shot at the #1 WR in the draft, Garrett Wilson, Ohio State. Using Commanders pick #11 Treylon Burks, Arkansas. Steelers #18 Chris Olave, Ohio State. Plus whatever picks thrown into each teams offer….. Add that WR to this Simulator, mind you control of two number 1’s offer even more options/variance.
After the Sr. Bowl The Johnson's ain't falling that far.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
It's all good, we speak in codes
Speaking of codes, don't want to post simulator results as it would seem too farfetched, but what if Caserio trades down from pick #3 then from whatever pick, but let's say in top 10, he trades down again late teens early 20's? Can you imagine the quality and quantity of roster upgrades could be executed?
My target is Tyler Linderbaum. With a young QB there is no more important position than Center. From positional value, Centers are low end value, but he is the exception. In those trade down's (love to add a first from Watson trade possibly day of draft) cheery on top would be one of this years stud WR’s for Mills as well. Any of these terrific young receiver's - Garrett Wilson, Treylon Burks, Drake London, Chris Olave, Jamison Williams and Jahan Dotson.
Now go-ahead fellow Texan draft -nicks try this exercise and see what could be
We are in agreement about Linderbaum. But do you pass on a "generational" player like Hamilton? Last line of defense.
Only once has he not been there at #3 on pfn mock.
Things definitely fall better with trade downs, but would it be worth it? Still need another draft or two regardless.
I have been able to take Hamilton and get C. Alec Lindstrom later. Is that a huge drop off? I don't know.
I do know now why it's going to take awhile to fill all the holes.( Unless we get a ransom for Watson.)
beerlover
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Using PFF simulator grades I actually reached for him (42), lol but agree they do need to be updated…. would hope before combine, then post combine and lastly week before the draft.
In all honesty, wouldn’t reach much more than that for him. If you want to knock a pick because you don’t think one of these prospects is realistic, for me it would be Boye Mafa (74). Know for sure he won’t be there and would consider him over Johnson. FYI
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Okay....actually liked the PFF.com/Mock simulator. It was my first time using it. So, as Beerlover alluded to in his Mock, I actually traded the Texans 2 best assets....Deshaun Watson and Laremy Tunsil.
The Washington Commanders are still going to be the best bet if Watson is moved before the draft. If they're the only team at the table and Flores isn't getting hired anytime soon.....something tells me, beggars can't be choosey. Watson will arrive knowing he's QB1. Texans Get: 22 RD1-11 & RD2-43 / 23 RD1 & RD3 / 24 RD1 & RD2
Tunsil is off to greener pastures in Philadelphia b/c the Eagles have decided to hitch their wagon to Jalen Hurts. To improve on their end of the year run....they need to improve their OL to give Hurts a better chance at growth. Texans Get: 22 RD1-15, RD5-152 & RD5-160 / 23 RD2
I'm not really expecting Jermaine Johnson II to be there in RD2....but could be based on how the draft falls. If he was taken in RD1, it'd be easy to select DE- Logan Hall (Houston) instead.
The Washington Commanders are still going to be the best bet if Watson is moved before the draft. If they're the only team at the table and Flores isn't getting hired anytime soon.....something tells me, beggars can't be choosey. Watson will arrive knowing he's QB1. Texans Get: 22 RD1-11 & RD2-43 / 23 RD1 & RD3 / 24 RD1 & RD2
Tunsil is off to greener pastures in Philadelphia b/c the Eagles have decided to hitch their wagon to Jalen Hurts. To improve on their end of the year run....they need to improve their OL to give Hurts a better chance at growth. Texans Get: 22 RD1-15, RD5-152 & RD5-160 / 23 RD2
I'm not really expecting Jermaine Johnson II to be there in RD2....but could be based on how the draft falls. If he was taken in RD1, it'd be easy to select DE- Logan Hall (Houston) instead.
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beerlover
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Don’t get moving up a prospect one round, based off Senior Bowl week alone vs tape over a year or more of game film?
Speaking of Senior Bowl practices Logan Hall had himself excellent week as well and feel that draft slot is reasonable.
There will be another bump in grades post Combine too. Just stay fluid because it’s going to keep changing, even though it really shouldn’t in comparison to actual game tape.
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Can you explain how to do trades on simulator, especially how to trade players?
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
JB, come to the conclusion on who would trade for Watson, Tunsil, and/or Cooks and what fair compensation would be. Pick the team to trade with, choose the picks, then use the Texans 2023 RD1, 2, or 3 as compensation, and hit “Force Trade” to finalize trade. There’s an icon that allows you to make additional trades before starting the draft.
It doesn't give option for trading players
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Are you on www.pff.com/mock? You’re not trading players. Create your own trade then use their picks for your 2023 pick. I used the Commanders as the team likely to trade for Watson so I selected their RD1-11 and RD2-43 and used the Texans 2023 RD1 as compensation instead of Watson himself. It gave me the picks to work with in the 2022 draft.
So not really trading Watson in your mock?
TheRealJoker
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No trades just grabbing good players at each selection with a chance to make the team/contribute. Doubt some of these players are there where selected though! First mock, if I do it over again probably add a CB instead of TE or RB with my 3rd or 4th round pick.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
It’s a fun exercise. PFF simulator is used by virtually all these YouTube mock drafts but best ones are actually PFF mockers themselves. I find their discussions insightful and worth the listen if so inclined.
We never had this tool to play around with years before, it’s still in process of development. Does not have trade option per say, that would be up to user discretion like OT suggested. That’s why all I added was a single first rounder for Watson trade, but I do think it happens in a couple more months around the draft.
That being said, would like to do the most realistic simulator mock draft possible. Takes a ton of knowledge a ton of discipline and could be foundation for anyones stand alone mock draft, just have to bite the bullet and pass on players you really target. The risers are the tough ones.
We never had this tool to play around with years before, it’s still in process of development. Does not have trade option per say, that would be up to user discretion like OT suggested. That’s why all I added was a single first rounder for Watson trade, but I do think it happens in a couple more months around the draft.
That being said, would like to do the most realistic simulator mock draft possible. Takes a ton of knowledge a ton of discipline and could be foundation for anyones stand alone mock draft, just have to bite the bullet and pass on players you really target. The risers are the tough ones.