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Sexual Assault Suits Against Watson

otisbean said:
Ask yourself this, why are all these girls performing massage when they aren’t licensed therapist? You find it weird that he’s seeking unlicensed therapists but I find it equally weird that these girls are agreeing to do something they aren’t licensed to do. If I remember correctly many of these girls worked on him more than once, which I find weird. If your that uncomfortable with a situation why go back?
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I dunno but maybe the well known American philosopher William "because that's where the money is" Sutton could possibly provide some insight on the answers to your questions here O-bean.
 
thunderkyss said:
Of course not. It never happened.

You insinuated it did a few weeks ago. You were corrected then, with links demonstrating what was actually said.

Still, you repeated it again a few days ago.

You refuse to live in reality as your version is juicier.
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Hopefully we will see in court.

The list of complaintants is ever growing.

I'm enjoying this and watching posters trying to defend DW4. It's actually very entertaing to see the human mind and what lengths it will go to to validate what some want to believe about DW4.
 
amazing80 said:
Just stop. I sell houses. If someone offered me 200k to perform open heart surgery I wouldn’t do it. These girls were infatuated with Watson and wanted to be around him. They had zero reason or fear to go back a second time if he did something wrong. The theory of fear is bullshit in this Instance. He had no impact on their life that he could ruin. They were nobodies before and after. Follow the Benjamin’s and you will see the light.
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You actually have no idea what goes on in sex assault cases. Hell, sex assault cases happen between couples. Coming back a second time actually doesn’t mean what you think it does and I pity you.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
I just wonder if the DA’s office is to be trusted
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This kind of statement seems to try and cover your position in the event the outcome is less than your personal desire.

I think this should also cover all those who had the desire to throw a rope over the nearest branch and lynch Watson on pure accusation. No, some of you folks have assigned yourselves judge, jury, and executioners.....and that’s a sad state of affairs.

The judicial system is what we have and it does have its blemishes but it’s by far one of the best systems in the world.

Watson may get his day in court and whatever the outcome.....it’s the one we’ll have to live with.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
For the ones who are defending Watson, saying this must all be a cash grab. Think for one second. Watson is not the first 100 million dollar athlete or QB. He knew he was facing allegations in January, and still went back to Instagram. These are at least 23 encounters here, why go after UNLICENSED therapists? Your clue lies there. There’s evidence he himself acknowledged someone was uncomfortable with his behavior.
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My question is do you have to be licensed in order to practice? If not then I see the bolded as irrelevant. As items get broken down point by point by competent attorneys the holes will get bigger on both sides. DW4's team has already admitted some of these encounters ended in consensual sexual acts. The key is did anything happen that was non-consensual. Sexual assault in Texas (not looking at out of state) falls under Texas Penal Code section 22.011. Under this statutory scheme, sexual assault is generally defined as any non-consensual, unwanted sexual contact against another person involving penetration. So only the ones where non-consenting penetration allegedly took place can claim sexual assault. Anything else I would think would fall under indecent assault, which is only a Class A misdemeanor. Let the games continue...
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Also, what kind of “lesson” did his own firm want him to learn?
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I know better than to waste my time engaging you on this subject. So, I will simply add some common sense to your post.

From his firm's perspective, they were probably just as surprised as anyone that he would be getting a massage from some IG therapist and the "lesson to be learn" is he has to use better judgement and not seek massages from unknown, unlicensed, unvetted, internet massage therapists? That this will be a $50K life lesson and reiterate the point that it could be worst?
 
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Earl34 said:
I know better than to waste my time engaging you on this subject. So, I will simply add some common sense to your post.

From his firm's perspective, they were probably just as surprised as anyone that he would be getting a massage from some IG therapist and the "lesson to be learn" is he has to use better judgement and not seek massages from unknown, unlicensed, unvetted, internet massage therapists? That this be a $50K lesson and reiterate the point that it could be worst?
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Couldn’t have been that surprised since his QB coach was delivering on it
 
OptimisticTexan said:
This kind of statement seems to try and cover your position in the event the outcome is less than your personal desire.

I think this should also cover all those who had the desire to throw a rope over the nearest branch and lynch Watson on pure accusation. No, some of you folks have assigned yourselves judge, jury, and executioners.....and that’s a sad state of affairs.

The judicial system is what we have and it does have its blemishes but it’s by far one of the best systems in the world.

Watson may get his day in court and whatever the outcome.....it’s the one we’ll have to live with.
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Actually it’s not. I’ve worked with the DA’s office. I know more that goes on there than you do.
 
texan279 said:
Yup. If he did "nothing wrong", should be no need to apologize.
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Lots of things can make someone uncomfortable and perhaps warrant an apology. Insensitive remarks concerning religion or politics can lead to an "uncomfortable situation" that someone might want to apologize for, especially in a "business" setting. There just isn't enough in that tweet to discern anything real.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Good luck trying to explain what happened hereView attachment 8758
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lol, “the smoking gun” according to you. you’re so in the bag it’s ridiculous. That could mean literally a thousand different things all equally as “plausible” as your preferred explanation...but you’ve literally not answered any of the other questions posed to you by other posters in here with a credible response/explanation.

now you’ve turned to conspiracy theories to bolster your argument...like, if DW4 doesn’t face criminal charges then CLEARLY it means the DA’s office is corrupt and/or incompetent...

You frankly just can’t admit that there just might be some validity to these encounters being consensual and a lot of these suits as possibly a cash grab undertaken by a PUBLICITY SEEKING lawyer can you? The victims said it happened, so it MUST be true right?
 
Thorn said:
Lots of things can make someone uncomfortable and perhaps warrant an apology. Insensitive remarks concerning religion or politics can lead to an "uncomfortable situation" that someone might want to apologize for, especially in a "business" setting. There just isn't enough in that tweet to discern anything real.
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And what’s going to happen, Buzbee will use that particular text as an example, and tie it to the fact Hardin said Consensual sex did sometimes occur and argue the intent was sex.
 
Thorn said:
Lots of things can make someone uncomfortable and perhaps warrant an apology. Insensitive remarks concerning religion or politics can lead to an "uncomfortable situation" that someone might want to apologize for, especially in a "business" setting. There just isn't enough in that tweet to discern anything real.
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So why would he wait until he was gone and apologize through a text message?
 
KoolAid Sipper said:
My question is do you have to be licensed in order to practice? If not then I see the bolded as irrelevant. As items get broken down point by point by competent attorneys the holes will get bigger on both sides. DW4's team has already admitted some of these encounters ended in consensual sexual acts. The key is did anything happen that was non-consensual. Sexual assault in Texas (not looking at out of state) falls under Texas Penal Code section 22.011. Under this statutory scheme, sexual assault is generally defined as any non-consensual, unwanted sexual contact against another person involving penetration. So only the ones where non-consenting penetration allegedly took place can claim sexual assault. Anything else I would think would fall under indecent assault, which is only a Class A misdemeanor. Let the games continue...
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For those that are not familiar with the Texas statute, "penetration" refers not only to vaginal and anal, but equally to oral.
 
amazing80 said:
Just stop. I sell houses. If someone offered me 200k to perform open heart surgery I wouldn’t do it. These girls were infatuated with Watson and wanted to be around him. They had zero reason or fear to go back a second time if he did something wrong. The theory of fear is bullshit in this Instance. He had no impact on their life that he could ruin. They were nobodies before and after. Follow the Benjamin’s and you will see the light.
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Luckily this will be for the courts to decide and not a WOF like you.
 
steelbtexan said:
Luckily this will be for the courts to decide and not a WOF like you.
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djohn2oo8 said:
Also, again look at the message. Something occurred where she was uncomfortable that Watson was unsure if she would want to work again. One comment doesn’t do that. Repeated behavior does.
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All inference.....& no discernible facts dude....& Hardin can do that too with the same effect.

maybe he had a bad case of gas and couldn’t stop farting during the massage..

Maybe he was in Ketosis and had that bad breath/BO during the massage that it gives you

Maybe b/c of the sensitive area of the massage he was asking for she had never massage before and was “uncomfortable” with it.

maybe,...maybe... maybe...

Further if this women came back and continued to give him massages, her credibility is pretty much gone.

you just really need to stop presenting your crap like facts b/c it’s anything but...
 
Mr teX said:
All inference.....& no discernible facts dude....& Hardin can do that too with the same effect.

maybe he had a bad case of gas and couldn’t stop farting during the massage..

Maybe he was in Ketosis and had that bad breath/BO during the massage that it gives you

Maybe b/c of the sensitive area of the massage he was asking for she had never massage before and was “uncomfortable” with it.

maybe,...maybe... maybe...


Further if this women came back and continued to give him massages, her credibility is pretty much gone.

you just really need to stop presenting your crap like facts b/c it’s anything but...
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Like I said, I'm glad the courts will decide this and luckily not WOF's.
 
Mr teX said:
All inference.....& no discernible facts dude....& Hardin can do that too with the same effect.

maybe he had a bad case of gas and couldn’t stop farting during the massage..

Maybe he was in Ketosis and had that bad breath/BO during the massage that it gives you

Maybe b/c of the sensitive area of the massage he was asking for she had never massage before and was “uncomfortable” with it.

maybe,...maybe... maybe...

Further if this women came back and continued to give him massages, her credibility is pretty much gone.

you just really need to stop presenting your crap like facts b/c it’s anything but...
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If a woman hangs around a guy and feels uncomfortable, and hangs around him again and is raped, do you blame her in that scenario?
 
Mr teX said:
not REMOTELY CLOSE to the same situation...b/c all these women had a choice...Rape victims often don’t.

nice try tho...
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It’s the same premise. Hanging around a guy two times she felt uncomfortable with the first time. Btw, sexual assault victims don’t have a choice either. Oh and also, rape is a lot of the times classified as sexual assault in Texas. Two allegations Watson is facing include rape allegations.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
And you aren’t allowing the possibility he may be guilty at all.
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go back and read all my posts...you will see you’re dead wrong...meanwhile, you’ve ONLY showed up on this board to spew “guilty!”. I don’t believe I’ve saw you postin any other thread.
 
Mr teX said:
go back and read all my posts...you will see you’re dead wrong...meanwhile, you’ve ONLY showed up on this board to spew “guilty!”. I don’t believe I’ve saw you postin any other thread.
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No sir. You have said because some showed up again they must be lying, when these cases in Texas sometimes include circumstances where either the victim knew the complainant or were acquaintances on multiple occasions
 
Mr teX said:
WOH like you aren’t even allowing for the possibility of innocence...you also do realize that supposed WOF can be on the jury right

get it together Steelb...you’re better than this
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Who is a WOH, if you mean I dont care for sexual deviants (Best Case) or sexual predators (Worst case) you would be correct. Regardless of how this turns out in a court of law. Watching posters defend his behavior is hilarious.

DW4's exactly who I thoiught he was long ago before any of this stuff came to light. (A POS) The situation he's in he has nobody to blame but himself and all of this crap just confirms what I thought about DW4 all along. You gotta be disappointed in your POS.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
It’s the same premise. Hanging around a guy two times she felt uncomfortable with the first time. Btw, sexual assault victims don’t have a choice either. Oh and also, rape is a lot of the times classified as sexual assault in Texas
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If you’re going to criticize DW4 for “putting himself in that position” then you have to with the alleged victims too. Why are you offering massage services when you’re not qualified? Why are you accepting invites for a 2nd massage when you were alleged assaulted the 1st time?

They do have a choice...they didn’t have to accept his 2nd invite for a massage if they indeed went back to him.....
 
steelbtexan said:
Who is a WOH, if you mean I dont care for sexual deviants (Best Case) or sexual predators (Worst case) you would be correct. Regardless of how this turns out in a court of law. Watching posters defend his behavior is hilarious.

DW4's exactly who I thoiught he was long ago before any of this stuff came to light. (A POS) The situation he's in he has nobody to blame but himself and all of this crap just confirms what I thought about DW4 all along. You gotta be disappointed in your POS.
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you were a WOH before any of this don’t front...
 
Mr teX said:
you were a WOH before any of this don’t front...
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My post spoke for itself.

Before I thought you couldn't win a championship with DW4 at QB.

Nothing that's happened this offseason has changed my mind.

I'm waiting for the mental gymnastics you will use to defend DW4 when he settles these cases. That will be very entertaining.

You never answered my question, which do you think describes DW4's character best and which is more likely?

A. Sexual deviant
B. Sexual predator
C. All of the above
 
steelbtexan said:
Who is a WOH, if you mean I dont care for sexual deviants (Best Case) or sexual predators (Worst case) you would be correct. Regardless of how this turns out in a court of law. Watching posters defend his behavior is hilarious.

DW4's exactly who I thoiught he was long ago before any of this stuff came to light. (A POS) The situation he's in he has nobody to blame but himself and all of this crap just confirms what I thought about DW4 all along. You gotta be disappointed in your POS.
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You have been against Deshawn Watson as being overrated as a Qb but I don't recall before these sexual assault allegations that you ever had issues with his conduct or personality. If you have felt that way I must have missed those post.
 
Mr teX said:
If you’re going to criticize DW4 for “putting himself in that position” then you have to with the alleged victims too. Why are you offering massage services when you’re not qualified? Why are you accepting invites for a 2nd massage when you were alleged assaulted the 1st time?

They do have a choice...they didn’t have to accept his 2nd invite for a massage if they indeed went back to him.....
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I know if I was sexually assaulted in my first meeting with a client I would immediately report it to the police and I sure as heck would not come back to perform another massage. Perhaps they were threatened and were scared of repercussions if they reported the incident. I don't think that is the reason though.
 
steelbtexan said:
My post spoke for itself.

Before I thought you couldn't win a championship with DW4 at QB.

Nothing that's happened this offseason has changed my mind.

I'm waiting for the mental gymnastics you will use to defend DW4 when he settles these cases. That will be very entertaining.

You never answered my question, which do you think describes DW4's character best and which is more likely?

A. Sexual deviant
B. Sexual predator
C. All of the above
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no mental gymnastics necessary b/c that is the most likely outcome. Further, only dudes like you will infer something to that other than what it is..a settlement which won’t indicate anything 1 way or another...it will only say that all this is over.
 
When all is said and done I hope that this is settled and they trade DW4 for a fair return. If he doesn't want to be a Texan then I don't want him to be one either. It has nothing to do with the sexual assault and is nothing personal.
 
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steelbtexan said:
Hopefully we will see in court.
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Stop moving the goal post. Admit you were wrong. Watson never denied having sex with any of the woman only to come back & say it was consensual.

Or better yet, don't say it again without proof that it happened. & it doesn't have to be a link. Tell us what website, who reported it, & when. We'll use Google to find it. I'll post the link for you if I can find it.
 
Thorn said:
Lots of things can make someone uncomfortable and perhaps warrant an apology. Insensitive remarks concerning religion or politics can lead to an "uncomfortable situation" that someone might want to apologize for, especially in a "business" setting. There just isn't enough in that tweet to discern anything real.
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You're right. It could mean anything. We know what Buzbee's client says it's referring to.

Can't wait to find out what Watson's explanation is.
 
Watson is guilty of naivety and not using good judgement, but at this time there is no evidence that he is guilty of anything more than that. It might come out that he did what he is being accused of but as of now there is no smoking gun so to speak.
 
JB said:
They're all lying
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Numbers of accusers alone will not lead to a guilty verdict..

Besides, the 18 that said DW4 did not act inappropiately must be lying as well. For what reason I do not know. Still the fact remains that he had clients that came out in his defense. If DW4 chose his victims based on physical attraction than he surely would not have chosen Ashley Solis or any women who look anything like her. She is hardly what one thinks of as a true beauty.
 
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thunderkyss said:
Stop moving the goal post. Admit you were wrong. Watson never denied having sex with any of the woman only to come back & say it was consensual.

Or better yet, don't say it again without proof that it happened. & it doesn't have to be a link. Tell us what website, who reported it, & when. We'll use Google to find it. I'll post the link for you if I can find it.
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What am I wrong about.

I'm not moving the goalposts. You need to go back and see DW4's original statement and then compare to where they are today.

Is calling DW4 a POS moving the goalposts.

Is asking whether DW4 is a

A. Sexual Deviant
B. Sexual Predator
C. All of the above

Moving the goalposts or is it asking the pertinent questions? Nothing else in the he said she said crap matters to me.
 
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