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Nick Caserio - New GM

I was excited to see Omar Khan, Steelers, come in. We need a cap guru and Steelers have a history of draft success up and down the roster. As said above, I wanted to get the GM decision behind us so we could get a good HC before they are gone. Nick is, well ok, worst case is Easterby is still going to be around
 
Serious question what are this guy's strengths? Is he known for doing anything particularly well? I keep hearing that he was valuable to the Patriots and teams wanted him yada yada ya...Has he nailed any hidden gems in talent acquisition (consistently)? Is he a contract/cap wizard? Does he run a a tight ship? The fact that the search committee didn't have him as a recommendation proves it was all a facade and Cal paid Korn Ferry to just ignore what they were hired to do (IMO). It all just seems too odd. If this is what they wanted all along then why not just get him last year and give OB the help he needed in a GM. I know he was under contract and the whole tampering accusation but could he have just resigned and accepted an offer for the GM position similarly to how Belichick went from the Jets to the Patriots as their HC. I don't have anything against him but just curious as to what makes this guy the most qualified to Cal besides the Jack Easterby link.
 
Mr teX said:
Or.....Maybe before actually settling on a guy they’d already done their due diligence on (which explains why he wasn’t on the interview list) they interviewed some other candidates to see if there were some other candidates out there they would like.

You know how it is when you’re looking for a new car. You have 1 in mind already that you really like, but there are also a few “maybes” that you could be convinced of...& then there’s always that 1 car that you had no idea you would like until you test drive it and get a good deal on.
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True. Plus they say it's just a good idea for job applicants to interview just for the experience. Same applies to organizations. Interview just to have guys in your database
 
Cal paid Korn Ferry to come up with a list of "other" candidates to do due dilligence on. Caserio may have already had an upper hand as a potential candidate, but the other candidates Korn Ferry came up with were also viable candidates that Cal could've been convinced to go with as well.

But it's way too juicy of a story line for folks to not assume that Caserio was the target the entire time and the search committee was just a facade brokered by Easterby. If Cal had not hired them and just undertook his own search with his own devices & Easterby, folks would be saying "how can he do this, he doesn't know what the hell he's doing/looking for..etc..etc".

I just don't understand the fascination folks here have with playing into all the damn conspiracy theories....

The interview process, the candidates selected, the GM choice...it was all solid decision-making.
 
KoolAid Sipper said:
Serious question what are this guy's strengths? Is he known for doing anything particularly well? I keep hearing that he was valuable to the Patriots and teams wanted him yada yada ya...Has he nailed any hidden gems in talent acquisition (consistently)? Is he a contract/cap wizard? Does he run a a tight ship? The fact that the search committee didn't have him as a recommendation proves it was all a facade and Cal paid Korn Ferry to just ignore what they were hired to do (IMO). It all just seems too odd. If this is what they wanted all along then why not just get him last year and give OB the help he needed in a GM. I know he was under contract and the whole tampering accusation but could he have just resigned and accepted an offer for the GM position similarly to how Belichick went from the Jets to the Patriots as their HC. I don't have anything against him but just curious as to what makes this guy the most qualified to Cal besides the Jack Easterby link.
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You got it the search committee was apparently a smoke screen to placate the fans until they could come to an agreement with the candidate they favored all along.
Only time will tell if he's an effective GM but I'm pleased they've got somebody, and now that we've go a GM I say on with the search in earnest to identify and hire a new HC.
 
IDEXAN said:
You got it the search committee was apparently a smoke screen to placate the fans until they could come to an agreement with the candidate they favored all along.
Only time will tell if he's an effective GM but I'm pleased they've got somebody, and now that we've go a GM I say on with the search in earnest to identify and hire a new HC.
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The search committee was a smoke screen to placate the NFL and the Rooney Rule. The Texans couldn't (and shouldn't) give a hoot about who the fans want as GM or HC.
 
KoolAid Sipper said:
Serious question what are this guy's strengths? Is he known for doing anything particularly well? I keep hearing that he was valuable to the Patriots and teams wanted him yada yada ya...Has he nailed any hidden gems in talent acquisition (consistently)? Is he a contract/cap wizard? Does he run a a tight ship? The fact that the search committee didn't have him as a recommendation proves it was all a facade and Cal paid Korn Ferry to just ignore what they were hired to do (IMO). It all just seems too odd. If this is what they wanted all along then why not just get him last year and give OB the help he needed in a GM. I know he was under contract and the whole tampering accusation but could he have just resigned and accepted an offer for the GM position similarly to how Belichick went from the Jets to the Patriots as their HC. I don't have anything against him but just curious as to what makes this guy the most qualified to Cal besides the Jack Easterby link.
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He did draft the OT/OG from Michigan (Micheal Spelling Bee that made the all rookie team and started all of last season) in the 7th rd of last yrs draft
 
KoolAid Sipper said:
Serious question what are this guy's strengths? Is he known for doing anything particularly well? I keep hearing that he was valuable to the Patriots and teams wanted him yada yada ya...Has he nailed any hidden gems in talent acquisition (consistently)? Is he a contract/cap wizard? Does he run a a tight ship? The fact that the search committee didn't have him as a recommendation proves it was all a facade and Cal paid Korn Ferry to just ignore what they were hired to do (IMO). It all just seems too odd. If this is what they wanted all along then why not just get him last year and give OB the help he needed in a GM. I know he was under contract and the whole tampering accusation but could he have just resigned and accepted an offer for the GM position similarly to how Belichick went from the Jets to the Patriots as their HC. I don't have anything against him but just curious as to what makes this guy the most qualified to Cal besides the Jack Easterby link.
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What I read is that Caserio is like BB's right hand man. He was involved in several different things, including on game day.

That was why I said he has a good overall knowledge/experience.

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Nick Caserio Might Be the Most Important Person In the Patriots’ Organization

Nick Caserio doesn't play or coach, but he might be the most important member of the New England Patriots' organization.
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KoolAid Sipper said:
Serious question what are this guy's strengths? Is he known for doing anything particularly well? I keep hearing that he was valuable to the Patriots and teams wanted him yada yada ya...Has he nailed any hidden gems in talent acquisition (consistently)? Is he a contract/cap wizard? Does he run a a tight ship? The fact that the search committee didn't have him as a recommendation proves it was all a facade and Cal paid Korn Ferry to just ignore what they were hired to do (IMO). It all just seems too odd. If this is what they wanted all along then why not just get him last year and give OB the help he needed in a GM. I know he was under contract and the whole tampering accusation but could he have just resigned and accepted an offer for the GM position similarly to how Belichick went from the Jets to the Patriots as their HC. I don't have anything against him but just curious as to what makes this guy the most qualified to Cal besides the Jack Easterby link.
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To answer your questions its hard to say for sure what each person does in NE because all that is made public is that all decisions are done by Belichick. All draft decisions, all trades, all plays basically everything according to the Pats public statements are done by BB. Its why there has always been a question on guys in and coming out of NE because in NE your job description is "Whatever Bill Belichick needs you to do." That being said as I stated before Caserio is one of the few, in fact I can't think of any others, that the Pats actually fought to keep and even went to the NFL about it. Could be they just wanted to slap the Texans down though why I don't know or it could be they lost to many after the Kraft situation and BB didn't want to lose any more people.

As far as the search committee people keep talking about it was all fake but what do they think the committee was actually suppose to do? It was stated multiple times that it was just an advisory committee and that ultimately Cal would make the decisions. The hilarious part is people are shall we say annoyed that Cal ignored Korn Ferry but it was Korn Ferry that recommended OB a fact that at the beginning people were mad they were talking to the same group. So when it looked like Cal would listen to Korn Ferry people were unhappy and saying he should ignore them but when he did ignore them people are unhappy saying why not go with their recommendations. This is why I say people are so burned by the org that it didn't matter who Cal hired it wouldn't make people happy.

As far as Caserio resigning and then being hired no it doesn't work that way. It still would have been considered tampering and not all states are like Texas which is an at will state meaning you can be fired at anytime or quit at anytime. Even the Belichick leaving you mentioned has become legend but the fact is it wasn't legal and it cost the Pats a first round pick and several late rounds picks that they had to give to the Jets for Belichick's contract. We could have had Caserio as well but rumor was Pats wanted basically what they had to pay the Jets in 2000.

Caserio in his new contract with NE had language put in it that if he was offered a position on any other team he could leave without penalty to him or the other team. Pats knew he was going to go elsewhere when that was put in but the fact that they still wanted to keep him as long as possible is a good sign in my book.
 
Mr teX said:
Cal paid Korn Ferry to come up with a list of "other" candidates to do due dilligence on. Caserio may have already had an upper hand as a potential candidate, but the other candidates Korn Ferry came up with were also viable candidates that Cal could've been convinced to go with as well.

But it's way too juicy of a story line for folks to not assume that Caserio was the target the entire time and the search committee was just a facade brokered by Easterby. If Cal had not hired them and just undertook his own search with his own devices & Easterby, folks would be saying "how can he do this, he doesn't know what the hell he's doing/looking for..etc..etc".

I just don't understand the fascination folks here have with playing into all the damn conspiracy theories....

The interview process, the candidates selected, the GM choice...it was all solid decision-making.
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So you think that it's a coincidence that the guy they tried to hire last yr and couldn't get was hired as soon as he was eligible to be hired and that Easterby and Caserio are good friends? What posters dont want to admit or think about is Easterby is running the football side of the Texans org and is Cal's right hand man.

Easterby was and still is Cal's guy. Cal ignored the media hit pieces and stuck with his guy. I dont care for the snake oil salesman either, but I do admire Cal's loyalty. He must have gotten this trait from his daddy. I mean Bob McNair stuck with RS/Kubiak when most of the city wanted them gone. Hopefully the Easterby/Caserio/Probably McDaniels trio work out better than the RS/Kubiak duo did.
 
DocBar said:
The search committee was a smoke screen to placate the NFL and the Rooney Rule. The Texans couldn't (and shouldn't) give a hoot about who the fans want as GM or HC.
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Obviously the McNair's dont give a hoot about what the fanbase thinks.

They kept RS/Kubiak around for far to long.

They not only kept BOB around but they gave him the GM title.

They kept Easterby around and a the very least went with Easterby's recommendation to hire Caserio.
 
steelbtexan said:
It's likely to happen

Sleep tight.

I'm willing to give this a couple of seasons to see how it plays out. But I'm still thinking there will be no championships. On the bright side, McDaniels made it as far in the playoffs as the Texans ever have with Tebow as his QB.
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Except McDaniels never made the playoffs and actually got fired before Tebow made his first start, so no.
 
maverick512000 said:
To answer your questions its hard to say for sure what each person does in NE because all that is made public is that all decisions are done by Belichick. All draft decisions, all trades, all plays basically everything according to the Pats public statements are done by BB. Its why there has always been a question on guys in and coming out of NE because in NE your job description is "Whatever Bill Belichick needs you to do." That being said as I stated before Caserio is one of the few, in fact I can't think of any others, that the Pats actually fought to keep and even went to the NFL about it. Could be they just wanted to slap the Texans down though why I don't know or it could be they lost to many after the Kraft situation and BB didn't want to lose any more people.

As far as the search committee people keep talking about it was all fake but what do they think the committee was actually suppose to do? It was stated multiple times that it was just an advisory committee and that ultimately Cal would make the decisions. The hilarious part is people are shall we say annoyed that Cal ignored Korn Ferry but it was Korn Ferry that recommended OB a fact that at the beginning people were mad they were talking to the same group. So when it looked like Cal would listen to Korn Ferry people were unhappy and saying he should ignore them but when he did ignore them people are unhappy saying why not go with their recommendations. This is why I say people are so burned by the org that it didn't matter who Cal hired it wouldn't make people happy.

As far as Caserio resigning and then being hired no it doesn't work that way. It still would have been considered tampering and not all states are like Texas which is an at will state meaning you can be fired at anytime or quit at anytime. Even the Belichick leaving you mentioned has become legend but the fact is it wasn't legal and it cost the Pats a first round pick and several late rounds picks that they had to give to the Jets for Belichick's contract. We could have had Caserio as well but rumor was Pats wanted basically what they had to pay the Jets in 2000.

Caserio in his new contract with NE had language put in it that if he was offered a position on any other team he could leave without penalty to him or the other team. Pats knew he was going to go elsewhere when that was put in but the fact that they still wanted to keep him as long as possible is a good sign in my book.
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Absolutely spot on. New England didn't want to lose this guy. Now we get to find out why.
 
steelbtexan said:
So you think that it's a coincidence that the guy they tried to hire last yr and couldn't get was hired as soon as he was eligible to be hired and that Easterby and Caserio are good friends? What posters dont want to admit or think about is Easterby is running the football side of the Texans org and is Cal's right hand man.

Easterby was and still is Cal's guy. Cal ignored the media hit pieces and stuck with his guy. I dont care for the snake oil salesman either, but I do admire Cal's loyalty. He must have gotten this trait from his daddy. I mean Bob McNair stuck with RS/Kubiak when most of the city wanted them gone. Hopefully the Easterby/Caserio/Probably McDaniels trio work out better than the RS/Kubiak duo did.
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Its not a "coincidence" per se...they obviously knew about Caserio...wanted him & he obviously wanted the gig here as well....which is something else that flies in the face of folks in here and elsewhere claiming the job wouldn't be as sought after b/c of the cap hell and lack of draft capital. We nailed a guy that has been sought after for years by other NFL teams.

But the search committee was just a way for Korn Ferry to show Cal "Hey, there are other qualified candidates out there outside of Caserio.....so lets take a look, you never know, you might like a few of these guys more than you like him." & in doing that alone, that makes Korn Ferry's involvement in the search & the search itself legitimate.
 
Why does everyone seem down on Daboll coming in at HC? He's been in my top 2 since we fired Billy. Just wondering why most here seem down on the possibility of him coming in.
 
Rich Schmidt said:
I was excited to see Omar Khan, Steelers, come in. We need a cap guru and Steelers have a history of draft success up and down the roster. As said above, I wanted to get the GM decision behind us so we could get a good HC before they are gone. Nick is, well ok, worst case is Easterby is still going to be around
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A good accountant/CPA can be a cap guru.
 
steelbtexan said:
Obviously the McNair's dont give a hoot about what the fanbase thinks.

They kept RS/Kubiak around for far to long.

They not only kept BOB around but they gave him the GM title.

They kept Easterby around and a the very least went with Easterby's recommendation to hire Caserio.
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Are you suggesting that the Texans should change coaching staffs and/or front office personnel based on the whims of fan satisfaction or should they just consult you in order to get it right?
 
Mr teX said:
Its not a "coincidence" per se...they obviously knew about Caserio...wanted him & he obviously wanted the gig here as well....which is something else that flies in the face of folks in here and elsewhere claiming the job wouldn't be as sought after b/c of the cap hell and lack of draft capital. We nailed a guy that has been sought after for years by other NFL teams.

But the search committee was just a way for Korn Ferry to show Cal "Hey, there are other qualified candidates out there outside of Caserio.....so lets take a look, you never know, you might like a few of these guys more than you like him." & in doing that alone, that makes Korn Ferry's involvement in the search & the search itself legitimate.
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I'm glad Cal talked to other GM candidates, he might have learned something from them if he listened to them. However the Caserio hire was a forgone conclusion since the tampering charge and Easterby not being let go when BOB was fired or after the season told us that Easterby is running the franchise and that Caserio was his guy. I also dont have a problem with a McDaniel hire as HC. I think he could be good for DW4.
 
JWTexans said:
Why does everyone seem down on Daboll coming in at HC? He's been in my top 2 since we fired Billy. Just wondering why most here seem down on the possibility of him coming in.
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Lets see, in Cleveland he had the 32nd ranked offense and then 29th ranked offense the next year. He did pretty much nothing when he was with the Chiefs and then with the Pats the only SB he won with them was when the Falcons did their Bills impression and completely choked. Since then he went back to college with Sabon and even though the Bills are having a good year for them it also hasn't been that impressive. I'm just not seeing anything in the guy's resume to say that he can do a better job than what we have had.
 
theCATALYST said:
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Texans Fans Must Let Caserio Cook

Nick Caserio may be from the Patriots, but he's different than previous Belichick wannabes. Let's let the new Texans GM bake
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While I don't agree with its assertion that he can best recreate the Pats legacy, no team will do that, it does bring up a good point that the hardest position for a GM to fill is done. Now the trick is building around Watson with the limited resources we have but the foundation is already there. Should be interesting to watch and when they pick the HC that will tell us a lot about the direction of the franchise. We've got the guy that is going to buy the car now we just need to know who he is putting behind the wheel.
 
DocBar said:
Are you suggesting that the Texans should change coaching staffs and/or front office personnel based on the whims of fan satisfaction or should they just consult you in order to get it right?
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I'm suggesting that history says that the McNair's dont give a hoot about what the fanbase thinks. Aren't we in agreement on this? BTW, I dont have an issue with the Caserio hire although I think there are better candidates out there.
 
steelbtexan said:
I'm obviously not going to change your mind.
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How could you change his mind when you are the one who's wrong? Josh McDaniels only coached the Broncos in 2009 and part of 2010 (fired after Week 13). It's not that hard to look up.

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The Broncos made the Playoffs in the 2005 Season and not again until the 2011 Season....you know, the one where Tebow beat the Steelers.

Edit: Didn't even need the 2nd link....clearly states McDaniels has a 0-0 Playoff Record in the above link
 
Cal McNair is clearly taking the easy route of going off a template instead of having the balls to go his own way and picking someone that has helped build a winner WITHOUT the greatest QB of all time.

I’m fuming because I really thought Cal had learned his lesson and realized that trying Patriotize the Texans was a foolish endeavor. If anyone can create a deep fake video of McNair saying racist things or having sex with a goat I’ll pay for it if it means the removal of this bumbling incompetent fool.
 
txtx said:
Removing Toxic Evangelist Easterby is kinda needed, in my case. I have no excitement for a GM picked despite not being in the top 5 of the team's search firm. Looks like Caserio's good friend, Easterby, will stay by his and McNair's side like a tape worm.
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As transparently two faced and incompetent as Osteensterby is, he is smart enough to sidle up to a dumb owner.
 
CPTTexan said:
How could you change his mind when you are the one who's wrong? Josh McDaniels only coached the Broncos in 2009 and part of 2010 (fired after Week 13). It's not that hard to look up.

www.pro-football-reference.com

Josh McDaniels Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Get Stats, Coaching Records, Team Ranks, Coordinators, and more for Josh McDaniels on Pro-football-reference.com.
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The Broncos made the Playoffs in the 2005 Season and not again until the 2011 Season....you know, the one where Tebow beat the Steelers.

Edit: Didn't even need the 2nd link....clearly states McDaniels has a 0-0 Playoff Record in the above link
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We don't look at stats around here. We trust our eyes
 
steelbtexan said:
I'm suggesting that history says that the McNair's dont give a hoot about what the fanbase thinks. Aren't we in agreement on this? BTW, I dont have an issue with the Caserio hire although I think there are better candidates out there.
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I'm beginning to think that the McNairs believe they are better and smarter than everyone else. Janice may be the one that thinks having Easterby around is a good idea and has told Cal he needs to listen to him. One thing we know, the McNairs do like to meddle.
 
Texian said:
I'm beginning to think that the McNairs believe they are better and smarter than everyone else. Janice may be the one that thinks having Easterby around is a good idea and has told Cal he needs to listen to him. One thing we know, the McNairs do like to meddle.
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I’m beginning to think the McNairs are clueless about making good football decisions and they don’t care that the fan base knows how inept they are. The fans will still show up and still watch on tv. They are correct. I won’t pay to attend a game but I’ll watch This predictable sitcom on tv Every Sunday.
 
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