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Will the Texans get desperate in their search of a GM and HC?

Texansballer74

The Marine
I think that's the problem. They don't like you and I find it petty.

I don’t like his constant bashing of only certain people or players. Especially when it’s not a player he didn’t want.

And I’m on the game thread every game day and I do not see positive takes coming from that dude.
 

powda

The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
I don’t like his constant bashing of only certain people or players. Especially when it’s not a player he didn’t want.

And I’m on the game thread every game day and I do not see positive takes coming from that dude.
Look again.
 

KA4Texan

Woof!
Contributor's Club
People who say he can be a top tier QB are guessing too.

Speaking of guessing, who do you think will be scapegoated when DW4 fails the next HC.
He did more saving of the previous coach than failing him if you ask me.

I believe OB did more failing himself than DW ever could

I dont believe DW is the greatest.... I just believe the man deserves a better opportunity to prove himself than what one Bill O'Brien offered him.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
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He did more saving of the previous coach than failing him if you ask me.

I believe OB did more failing himself than DW ever could

I dont believe DW is the greatest.... I just believe the man deserves a better opportunity to prove himself than what one Bill O'Brien offered him.
Good thing is we're going to find out.
 

powda

The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Thanks for trying to moderate and welcome to the rabbit hole. Guesswork without susbstance, stats or facts.
Isn't that the Texans talk way? Most posters don't schematically understand what they're watching.


Maybe use those facts and stats to make an argument?

Waiting.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
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We can talk about coaching till the cows come home. Do you also see his ability?
I see his ability and I see his weaknesses. I dont think you can fix what's wrong with DW4. He would have to learn to adapt his game as the Titans fan on this MB said Tannehill did. I dont see DW4 being able to do this. If you do that's fine. I see DW4 as a middle of the pack QB. Not great/Not terrible. Most importantly, not improving.
 

Earl34

Hall of Fame
Isn't that the Texans talk way? Most posters don't schematically understand what they're watching.


Maybe use those facts and stats to make an argument?

Waiting.
Many posters have used facts and stats. SteelB claims "stats are for losers" or they are excuses for Watson. So the conversation eventually devolves into this nonsense.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
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Isn't that the Texans talk way? Most posters don't schematically understand what they're watching.


Maybe use those facts and stats to make an argument?

Waiting.
I'll give you a stat and this is the most important stat of them all. DC's have caught up to DW4's game.

10 out of 11 of the last games DW4's played in he's been subpar. The Jags game he was OK against a bad team but nothing to hang your hat on.
 

powda

The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
I see his ability and I see his weaknesses. I dont think you can fix what's wrong with DW4. He would have to learn to adapt his game as the Titans fan on this MB said Tannehill did. I dont see DW4 being able to do this. If you do that's fine. I see DW4 as a middle of the pack QB. Not great/Not terrible. Most importantly, not improving.
Are you flexible to the chance you might be wrong? Your conviction is the cause for opinions against you.
 

Earl34

Hall of Fame
Are you flexible to the chance you might be wrong? Your conviction is the cause for opinions against you.
For the record. I don't dislike @steelbtexan. We probably agree on more things than we disagree. It's one of the reasons I don't keep him on the ignore list. But when it comes to Watson, we disagree because he believes the book has been written while I think this is only a chapter and willing to see where the story goes.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
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For the record. I don't dislike @steelbtexan. We probably agree on more things than we disagree. It's one of the reasons I don't keep him on the ignore list. But when it comes to Watson, we disagree because he believes the book has been written while I think this is only a chapter and willing to see where the story goes.
Quoted for truth.

The fun thing about this is we will see.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
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Again I’m on there religiously. At one point dude wouldn’t even chime in on game day. You do know we have thread that specifically for Positive takes on Watson play. And dude still hasn’t said anything remotely positive
I was on for Pittsburgh game. You might want to check out my posts in that game. The reason I'm on just a few gameday threads is because I have friends over and we cook/grill etc...
 

Texansballer74

The Marine
For the record. I don't dislike @steelbtexan. We probably agree on more things than we disagree. It's one of the reasons I don't keep him on the ignore list. But when it comes to Watson, we disagree because he believes the book has been written while I think this is only a chapter and willing to see where the story goes.
Exactly, but my thing is you have to watch what you say. Whether it’s to stimulate conversation or whatever it is, you can’t say egregious things and think it’s cool. Then fake apologize and then go back to straight up bashing. That right let’s me know its personal and you weren’t sincere. It’s like dude also wants to be right this the reason why he find something totally different every year to hang his hat on. Now we’re saying I hope I’m wrong and would like for Watson to succeed. I highly doubt he’s being genuine.
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
Go back and look at the last 6 games of last yr and the 1st six games of this yr and get back to me as to why you think those games weren't subpar? Also tell me after those games what makes you think he's worth a cap killing 160 mil.
But he's not paid at that level yet.
 

powda

The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Exactly, but my thing is you have to watch what you say. Whether it’s to stimulate conversation or whatever it is, you can’t say egregious things and think it’s cool. Then fake apologize and then go back to straight up bashing. That right let’s me know its personal and you weren’t sincere. It’s like dude also wants to be right this the reason why he find something totally different every year to hang his hat on. Now we’re saying I hope I’m wrong and would like for Watson to succeed. I highly doubt he’s being genuine.
I think he is being genuine. Even when it doesn't fit the company narative.
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
So what's your remedy? Hoyer again?
How do you mean?

......

What I was trying to say that, including the signing bonus the Texans dishes out on the extension, average cash paid into Watson's pocket is roughly $20M per year, quite a bit less than what Tannehill is getting.

And Watson's salary last year was peanuts.
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
Cash paid to Tannehill this year and next averaged out to be $30M per year, which is 50% more than Watson.


So, we'll see the $30M year man Tannehill vs. $20M Watson tomorrow.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
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Exactly, but my thing is you have to watch what you say. Whether it’s to stimulate conversation or whatever it is, you can’t say egregious things and think it’s cool. Then fake apologize and then go back to straight up bashing. That right let’s me know its personal and you weren’t sincere. It’s like dude also wants to be right this the reason why he find something totally different every year to hang his hat on. Now we’re saying I hope I’m wrong and would like for Watson to succeed. I highly doubt he’s being genuine.
FOS post

I've said I wanted him to succeed since his rookie year. Why? Because it would be more fun if he was successful. It hasn't happened in 4 years and I don't expect much to change. This is a
perfectly reasonable thought. In fact at this point I would call dissenting opinions to be based more on fandom than anything else. Which is perfectly fine, but I can't get on board with fandom as a reason for change.
 
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badboy

Hall of Fame
Are you saying no meaningful play off victories in the next 4 years? Or just no Super Bowls?

I mean it is what it is, but I wouldn't think they're "long years" if we get to the AFCCG three of those 4 years.

Our new HC & GM need to focus on team building more than finding a better QB.

Or are you saying 4 years of 9-7 sneaking into the playoffs once in the next four years?
What makes you think we can get to CG before 2023? Serious question. I need a boost.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
Everything you say on here is full of crap.

Mods he attacked first.

And dude only one member dislikes my comment, why because he believes the ctap that spew on here on a regular.
And you think arguing with him serves any purpose? Mudslinging only good for soap companies. If you are so sure of your position and most agree with you why give Steel the attention?
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
People who say he can be a top tier QB are guessing too.

Speaking of guessing, who do you think will be scapegoated when DW4 fails the next HC.
Let's wait and see if that happens as it does zero good pounding that nail. Your constant diatribe is like telling a guy his wife is ugly. Even if true where is the satisfaction in that? If I had to tell everybody a thousand times that I am right I would question my own self esteem. And that is not directed only at you. Let's take deep breath then start again at noon tomorrow. Criticism is fair but :deadhorse gets nauseating quickly
 
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