I'm sure he's willing to trade next year's 2nd, the 2021 3rd, Coutee, Warring and maybe even Fuller. Heck he could just trade Duke tooOnly way he gets him if he trades one of our players and some more draft picks. lol
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I'm sure he's willing to trade next year's 2nd, the 2021 3rd, Coutee, Warring and maybe even Fuller. Heck he could just trade Duke tooOnly way he gets him if he trades one of our players and some more draft picks. lol
Depends. We aren't going anywhere with OB as head coach no matter who's the QB.Watson leaving would be far worse than Nolan Ryan leaving
At this point someone needs to take away OB's gm duties or he'll become like Chevy Chase in the Las Vegas Vacation movie.I'm sure he's willing to trade next year's 2nd, the 2021 3rd, Coutee, Warring and maybe even Fuller. Heck he could just trade Duke too
I mean he's already worse in my book. Making terrible trades will be his main Wikipedia paragraphAt this point someone needs to take away OB's gm duties or he'll become like Chevy Chase in the Las Vegas Vacation movie.
Nice personal attack on a posterLol exactly. I told you gents some months ago, that when Steel does not like certain players/people. Dude will go out his way to push his agenda. No way in heck will we get rid of Watson and keep Obrien. Currently both are here to stay for a hot minute.
A lot of props to OB as well... goes counter to lots here
A little deshaun watson love
Depends on if you think his style of play can bring a championship to Kirby.For a long time, you have been clamoring for this franchise to get a "franchise QB". You have been pounding the table for this team to draft a 1st round QB. We finally got one, we have a productive QB... so now what do you want? You want to get rid of him and start all over?
You are a difficult guy to please.
Shet yo mouth!Depends on if you think his style of play can bring a championship to Kirby.
I think he gets hurt and there will be no championship.
Why is it when I disagree with you I have an agenda.Lol exactly. I told you gents some months ago, that when Steel does not like certain players/people. Dude will go out his way to push his agenda. No way in heck will we get rid of Watson and keep Obrien. Currently both are here to stay for a hot minute.
He sustained most hits OBrien was trying his dumb slow developing pass playsDepends on if you think his style of play can bring a championship to Kirby.
I think he gets hurt and there will be no championship.
Whatever dude,He sustained most hits OBrien was trying his dumb slow developing pass plays
How exactly was he supposed to get rid of the ball quick when OBrien was calling slow developing plays?Whatever dude,
If you want to criticize BOB for using him like a tailback then that's fair game.
You know how Watson can avoid talking some of those hits? By getting rid of the damn ball. Look at the almost int that he threw into double coverage and Nuk bailed him out. There was a guy wide open on about the 5 yd line.
I pointed out where he missed guys that were open.How exactly was he supposed to get rid of the ball quick when OBrien was calling slow developing plays?
Yes, Hyde in flat for two yard gainI pointed out where he missed guys that were open.
SMHYes, Hyde in flat for two yard gain
I've seen you, multiple times, say Watson reminds you of Steve Young. Young had no problems winning a Super Bowl.Depends on if you think his style of play can bring a championship to Kirby.
I think he gets hurt and there will be no championship.
True and I really hope he becomes Young. They are very similar in playing styles and are accurate, just not Montana/Brady/Brees accurate. They both have to/Had to learn how to read defenses/play the QB position in the NFL. This is what Watson is going thru right now and he doesn't really seem to be progressing. This bothers me and I've began to question if Watson will ever get it. Of course Young had Walsh teaching him and guys like Corrosion have said the WC offense is easier to learn how to run. BTW, Walsh is a GOAT when it comes to teaching how to play the QB position and teaching coaches how to coach the QB position. This is where Kubiak truly learned how to coach the QB position and why he's always been one of the best of his generation at teaching the QB position. I mean Schaub looked great in 2009 when he was fully healthy under Kubiak.I've seen you, multiple times, say Watson reminds you of Steve Young. Young had no problems winning a Super Bowl.
How exactly was he supposed to get rid of the ball quick when OBrien was calling slow developing plays?
Steve Young didn't become Steve Young until 1992... his 8th season in the league, his 6th season under Walsh.True and I really hope he becomes Young. They are very similar in playing styles and are accurate, just not Montana/Brady/Brees accurate. They both have to/Had to learn how to read defenses/play the QB position in the NFL. This is what Watson is going thru right now and he doesn't really seem to be progressing. This bothers me and I've began to question if Watson will ever get it. Of course Young had Walsh teaching him and guys like Corrosion have said the WC offense is easier to learn how to run. BTW, Walsh is a GOAT when it comes to teaching how to play the QB position and teaching coaches how to coach the QB position. This is where Kubiak truly learned how to coach the QB position and why he's always been one of the best of his generation at teaching the QB position. I mean Schaub looked great in 2009 when he was fully healthy under Kubiak.
BOB tried to teach his version of the EP to Watson, but it appears he's given up on this and is just letting Watson run the offense he feels most comfortable with. (Which is the smart thing to do) but the down side to this is Watson is most likely going to tear his ACL again and eventually after yrs of hoping he can become the QB we want him to become we will end up with another Schaub situation.
It's never worked. I wonder if O'Brien kept pushing that so that everyone would think he was an offensive geniusExactly, especially when it suppose to take the line 5 games to gel. Long developing routes with piss pour blocking leads to some much negative stuff.
Only because a GOAT was in front of him. He didn't play much.Steve Young didn't become Steve Young until 1992... his 8th season in the league, his 6th season under Walsh.
Watson is only in his 3rd season.
Doesn't seem fair that you're already giving up on him as the next Steve Young.
Just curious did Steve Young have two acl's and the issue with his lungs and overall beaten body syndrome that Watson has in his third season?Steve Young didn't become Steve Young until 1992... his 8th season in the league, his 6th season under Walsh.
Watson is only in his 3rd season.
Doesn't seem fair that you're already giving up on him as the next Steve Young.
You're right. It isn't fair and very short sighted. Especially when you consider this week's game will mark Watson's 32nd NFL game.Steve Young didn't become Steve Young until 1992... his 8th season in the league, his 6th season under Walsh.
Watson is only in his 3rd season.
Doesn't seem fair that you're already giving up on him as the next Steve Young.
Steve Young didn't become Steve Young until 1992... his 8th season in the league, his 6th season under Walsh.
Watson is only in his 3rd season.
Doesn't seem fair that you're already giving up on him as the next Steve Young.
Because of injuries to Montana, the 49ers traded for Young after he started for Tampa Bay, did a great job reading defenses by going 3-16 as a starter and throwing 11 TDs and 21 INTs. Even with Montana on the roster, he still started 10 games and by his sixth season, he had played the same amount of games as Watson.Only because a GOAT was in front of him. He didn't play much.
And by the end of the year was back on the bench for the playoffs, where he remained untill Montana was traded to the Chiefs so that Young could take over. Montana took the Chiefs to the AFCCG that yr beating the Oilers along the way. He also lead the Chiefs to a regular season victory over the mighty 49ers and Young in the regular season.Because of injuries to Montana, the 49ers traded for Young after he started for Tampa Bay, did a great job reading defenses by going 3-16 as a starter and throwing 11 TDs and 21 INTs. Even with Montana on the roster, he still started 10 games and by his sixth season, he had played the same amount of games as Watson.
He wasn't just sitting behind the GOAT.
It is more than the color scheme or the mystique. When you are a Raider fan you become part of a family that was guided by the late, venerable, Al Davis.Like the Steelers, the Raiders have many fans outside their area. Some attribute this to their tradition and mystique. I think it's because of the color scheme. I mean, who doesn't look better in silver and black.
If Davis kept reaching out to you, you had a loyal friend for life. Countless former players and employees got financial help, medical help or sometimes just game tickets or a friendly phone call from Davis.Davis even picked up the tab for former Chiefs linebacker Derrick Thomas' funeral in 2000, because his family couldn't afford it."You could write volumes on Al Davis because there's so many different people that he helped," Herrera said. "Without anyone else knowing about it. He had a heart as big as anyone I've ever known, and the perception of him was not that way. The perception of him was of this tough guy who always had to have it his way."
Because here’s what also comes through clearly in Edelman’s film: the long-running rumors that Nicole Brown Simpson and Allen had an affair, which, at some point, Simpson learned about.
What’s most unsettling is that the viewer is left to wonder whether Nicole Brown Simpson’s possible involvement with Allen may have contributed to her death.
“Do we all believe that right toward the very end when they had split up after Mother’s Day that Nicole was not seeing Marcus again?” Mike Gilber, who represented both Simpson and Allen, asks in the film. “I absolutely believe that she was. And O.J. told Nicole, ‘You ever see Marcus again, I will kill you.’ ”
I saw the play on TV as it happened. Stingley dove to catch a pass over the middle. Tatum came across as Stingley was coming down, and had a helmet to helmet collision. Legal play, at the time. Tatum definitely meant to rock Stingley and force the incompletion. Not paralyze him. Tatum could have easily been the one paralyzed. A play that is now against the rules at all levels of the game.Heck, Dr. Z once claimed he was at the Raider/Patriot preseason game decades ago, and that Stingley got paralyzed by Tatum from a hit he took while on the ground. That was total B.S., they ran into each other, but that film clip is hard to find online. Anyway, Dr. Z started a false narrative, and that pisses us Raider fans off.
Tatum and Atkinson just didn’t want any receivers coming across the middle. Tatum was aggressive more than dirty, but could play dirty for sure. You’re correct, Atkinson was dirty. Then again, back in those days you had some mean SOB’s playing ball. Alzado, Tooz, Charlie Waters (Eagles), Butkus, etc.I saw the play on TV as it happened. Stingley dove to catch a pass over the middle. Tatum came across as Stingley was coming down, and had a helmet to helmet collision. Legal play, at the time. Tatum definitely meant to rock Stingley and force the incompletion. Not paralyze him. Tatum could have easily been the one paralyzed. A play that is now against the rules at all levels of the game.
Having said that, the Raiders stretched the rules at the time. No one stretched them more than Tatum. The play only reinforced his reputation as the dirtiest player in the league. Though his teammate, George Atkinson, probably deserved the title more.
BTW, Tatum did give Stingley a forearm while on the ground, defenseless. .That just wasn't the play that paralyzed Stingley.