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Can't find a single post calling Howard a bust? So you're just making shyt up, huh?
BTW, Howard is from a small school. Had two games vs. FBS schools in 4 seasons. How could he possibly be described as anything but a project?
Dillard was a 4 year starter at a PAC 12 school. No one is a sure thing. But, that's as much of a sure thing as you can get.
No one knows for sure how this plays out. But pointing out that Gaine has gone against the grain is a very fair critique.
Call me whatever names you want, you have no room to talk. You’ve posted repeatedly about hoping Watson gets his neck broke just to prove us wrong and be able to say “I told you so.” Also, don’t backtrack now just because there are positive reports on Howard from OTA’s.So now liking Dillard more than Howard is calling Howard a bust?
People only hear what they want to hear. These 2 things aren't mutually exclusive.
Wipe away, obviously you have a terrible case of Montezuma's revenge.
Call me whatever names you want, you have no room to talk. You’ve posted repeatedly about hoping Watson gets his neck broke just to prove us wrong and be able to say “I told you so.” Also, don’t backtrack now just because there are positive reports on Howard from OTA’s.
IBTW, I'm rooting for Howard to be successful,
Huh? The 2018 picks were almost unanimously praised. There were questions about the Akins pick so early (late 3rd). The other picks were praised, profusely.
Reid
Rankin
Akins
Coutee
Ejiofor
Thomas
And the questioning and headscratching this year are generated from one pick. The overwhelming majority are happy with the picks from the 2nd round on. It's the first pick. And I haven't seen anyone suggest Howard is a bust. The criticism stems from, why take a raw player so early, why not maneuver in the draft and take the same player, or why not maneuver in the draft and select a more accomplished player? All legitimate questions. And that criticism is from less than 50% of the fanbase that resides here.
Gaine has been on the job for 18 months. Everything he has touched has not turned to gold. There are concerns from some that he has not done enough to protect the franchise QB we have waited so long for. I hope Gaine has made the right decision. I think even the most strident critics of Gaine hope that, as well. Let's just not hoist him up on a pedestal, yet. It could be a long fall.
TruthPretty simple, Texans are chasing the Colts and Reich/Ballard > O’Brian/Gaine
Me and you can reconstruct the oline. But after 5 yrs the people in charge dont when to call timeout or who the starting 5 is.BG in just a little over a year has largely reconstructed the OL while adding three new draft picks, promoted a new OC and hired DW a top notch QB coach (while reconstructing the completely neglected TE and S positions, etc.). Sounds like a pretty good one year resume but of course that’s not good enough for some here.
Why in the hell they shouldn't know. They have 4 returning darn starters. Those 4 along with Henderson should have a good feel for the offensive game plan by now. Those rookies doesn't have a freaking clue.
Really? Doesn't seem like it based on your negativity
Throwing a bunch of projects out there in a very complex offensive won't make it better either.
Cant hurt either, seeing they were as bad as they were last yr.
But this is another fair question that JB doesn't want to hear any part of.
I like Dillard better than Howard. That doesn't mean Howard cant be good, it just means he's got a much steeper learning curve because of the competition he's played against and BTW,
Me and you can reconstruct the oline. But after 5 yrs the people in charge dont when to call timeout or who the starting 5 is.
No, that does not mean that at all.
Level of competition does not prevent Howard from being a day 1 starter. He played well against "better" competition every chance he's had to date & he's with a true NFL staff working with & against NFL talent. They'll be able to tell if he's ready or not.
I am not arguing that Howard is ready to start day 1. Only that level of competition doesn't mean Howard's learning curve is any steeper than someone who has never played out of a 3 point stance, never played with NFL spacing, etc...
The former SB winning Eagles disagree with you as well.
The questions I've got about Howard are fair ones.
Let me go find my pompoms so I can wave them and maybe that will make you happy. Because that's what we all know is most important.
ummm, izzat the 2019 or the 2020 season?They should know the starters before gameday of game 1 of the regular season.
Personally, I'm still in wait and see mode with BG. As for OB and his oline coaching, I'm done. I feel like OB and his oline are the same as Kubiak and his early years defense. Someone has to step in and force change.What does this have to do with BG? Just more drunk whining.
Agree to disagree
The former SB winning Eagles disagree with you as well.
Why in the hell they shouldn't know. They have 4 returning darn starters. Those 4 along with Henderson should have a good feel for the offensive game plan by now. Those rookies doesn't have a freaking clue.
Dude, the next time you are objectively fair re. the Texans will be the first time. You disagree with decisions made and I get that, but they have been made and your crying about those decisions accomplishes nothing other than make you look like a little whiney b!tch
The Patriots and Texans were in 2 different situations. The Pats had only $6 million in cap space, but did have a 2018 1st round SEC LT ready to step in for Brown. The Texans had over $50 million in cap space at the time ($40 million now), and no real option at LT. We have no idea what Belichick would have done if he were in the Texans spot. Of course, he doesn't put his organization in those spots.And the multiple time in a row and current SB champs the Pats disagreed with you about Trent Brown but you didn't seem to let that stop you from believing you were right.
The Patriots and Texans were in 2 different situations. The Pats had only $6 million in cap space, but did have a 2018 1st round SEC LT ready to step in for Brown. The Texans had over $50 million in cap space at the time ($40 million now), and no real option at LT. We have no idea what Belichick would have done if he were in the Texans spot. Of course, he doesn't put his organization in those spots.
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I'm just stating facts.Or the Pats, like the Texan's, didn't think a LT with average stats was worth making the highest paid lineman in NFL history.
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I'm just stating facts.
OK. But, can the Texans afford to mimic a SB organization when their most valuable commodity (Watson) is facing peril? NFL salaries are escalating rapidly. This time next year, Brown will just be top 10 in OT salary. The year after, he'll be out of the top 10. The only question that should have been asked is, "Would Trent Brown make Deshaun Watson better?" In all honesty, he would have helped. Then the Texans would have only $24 million in cap space, as opposed to $40 million.My original point though was that Steel keeps using former SB bowl winning and what they do to support his argument but ignores when a current SB winning team does something that doesn't.
OK. But, can the Texans afford to mimic a SB organization when their most valuable commodity (Watson) is facing peril? NFL salaries are escalating rapidly. This time next year, Brown will just be top 10 in OT salary. The year after, he'll be out of the top 10. The only question that should have been asked is, "Would Trent Brown make Deshaun Watson better?" In all honesty, he would have helped. Then the Texans would have only $24 million in cap space, as opposed to $40 million.
We don't know the exact cap number, but we know it's going up. Estimated at $200 million in 2020, a $12 million increase. Then, the new TV deals will be negotiated and these numbers will get astronomical.Also yeah the salaries are going up but we don't know that the cap will, granted it most likely will but we don't know for sure, or what kind of contract Watson in particular will command or Clowney this year.
Funny you were just going on about reading comprehension.
Dude, the next time you are objectively fair re. the Texans will be the first time. You disagree with decisions made and I get that, but they have been made and your crying about those decisions accomplishes nothing other than make you look like a little whiney b!tch
And the multiple time in a row and current SB champs the Pats disagreed with you about Trent Brown but you didn't seem to let that stop you from believing you were right.
We don't know the exact cap number, but we know it's going up. Estimated at $200 million in 2020, a $12 million increase. Then, the new TV deals will be negotiated and these numbers will get astronomical.
We don't know what kind of deal Clowney will get, or if he will get one. But any new deal will not have a 2019 cap hit higher than his 2019 tag number. That's just how contracts are worked. Pushing the money out to future years, when the cap is higher.
I don't know what kind of performance numbers you are looking at in regards to Trent Brown. Clearly, Brady makes everyone look better. Including Belichick. But, to suggest that Brown would not help the Texans because of the offensive line coach is perplexing. Why spend any resources on the o-line? Especially a 1st round pick that will really need pro coaching? That argument begs for a vet LT, not against acquiring one.
The Patriots and Texans were in 2 different situations. The Pats had only $6 million in cap space, but did have a 2018 1st round SEC LT ready to step in for Brown. The Texans had over $50 million in cap space at the time ($40 million now), and no real option at LT. We have no idea what Belichick would have done if he were in the Texans spot. Of course, he doesn't put his organization in those spots.
The Patriots and Texans were in 2 different situations. The Pats had only $6 million in cap space, but did have a 2018 1st round SEC LT ready to step in for Brown. The Texans had over $50 million in cap space at the time ($40 million now), and no real option at LT. We have no idea what Belichick would have done if he were in the Texans spot. Of course, he doesn't put his organization in those spots.
Brown was ranked 32nd by PFF though I will grant you he had a good playoff run he still was only had a grade of 86 while Davenport had a grade of 76. A ten point difference is not enough to me to justify that kind of money. Add to that he looked to be completely run of the mill with 49ers and then he gets to NE and all of a sudden he's the best Lt in the league? Only thing that changed was Brady and the coaching and now he won't have either of those things.
As far as spending resources on the Oline, first I didn't want them to draft Howard in the first round or even Dillard, I wanted Brown, I know I got the irony to, to have a backup when Fuller or Coutee go down again and then trade up with the Cards in early second to get Howard or whoever. Trouble with a Vet LT is you don't know if they can adjust systems very well especially coming from a well oiled machine like the Pats. How many times have we seen stars in NE become duds when they leave. I'm hoping that with a rookie OT that he can be molded a little easier and that the skill level is high enough to overcome the Oline coaching but I'll admit I'm not that hopeful.
As I said, the money is not that relevant. The Texans have plenty now and will have plenty in the future. And I take these PFF numbers with a more than a grain of salt. What did your eyes tell you when you watched Brown and Davenport? Looks like at least $16 million difference, to me. One can do the job, the other cannot.Brown was ranked 32nd by PFF though I will grant you he had a good playoff run he still was only had a grade of 86 while Davenport had a grade of 76. A ten point difference is not enough to me to justify that kind of money.
“You see a play on film and a receiver goes uncovered down the field. So you know it’s probably one of two guys’ mistakes, so you don’t know which guy it is,” Belichick said on “Ordway, Merloni and Fauria” on Monday during his weekly interview with WEEI. “A lot of times the announcer will say, ‘[This guy] should’ve taken him,’ or, ‘[That guy] should have taken him.’ And I’m looking at the play saying, it could have been either guy, depending on what the call was.”
Belichick admitted sometimes his players will correct him, because he will approach the player with a teaching point only to learn there’s another player at fault because of an adjustment at the line of scrimmage.
“In terms of analytics, you get a lot of, ‘This guy should have him. That guy should have him.’ I know from our team, there are times when we don’t know exactly what went wrong until we sort out the play,” Belichick said on WEEI. “So it’s impossible someone else could have known. Sometimes what it looks like is not what it is.”
Or the Pats, like the Texan's, didn't think a LT with average stats was worth making the highest paid lineman in NFL history.
We'll just have to wait and see what kind of peril DWatson is facing this season. The issue has a lot of moving parts and the solution isn't as easy as saying just do this or just do that.
Whether anyone likes the way they went about it or who they picked, the Texans put some real draft capital into the OLine this year with their early selections. And whether anyone thinks OB and Devlin can do anything with the new linemen, I know the coaches & players will be trying.
Gaine, OB, et al are well aware that Watson can't continue to get whacked around like he has been. We're not the only ones that see that his career and effectiveness stand a strong chance of being damaged if things don't improve.
Also, as has been well said here many times, more needs to be fixed than just the OLine. Quicker recognition & getting rid of the ball faster by DWatson will help a lot. That's how Brady often beats rushers. So the Texans have brought in Carl Smith to help DWatson the way he was able to help Russell Wilson.
Better play design will also make a big difference, but the biggest part of that is having Coutee and Fuller healthy, plus developing another couple of young receivers.
I'm not telling you guys anything new. The Texans are trying to take steps that will help protect DWatson's health and future. A lot of folks here don't like the steps they have or haven't taken, and that's okay, we can talk about it calmly and rationally. But they're definitely taking steps.
And while I'm posting, can we please talk to each other like grown men and dispense with the personal attacks, crude comments, and name-calling? We may not agree with each other, but we should always agree to be civil about it. As I've said before, argument by ridicule is really no argument at all.
TLTR,
Brown was very good in San Francisco.
32 is middle of the pack. I would take middle of the pack after the last 2 yrs. Gaine would have too but in true Texans orgs fashion didn't want to pay the price to get him.
He had too many FA's to sign to one year deals
Meanwhile Watson isn't protected as well as he could be and the Texans are sitting on the 2nd most cap space in the NFL.
BTW, Signing Brown wouldn't have hurt them at all capwise
As I said, the money is not that relevant. The Texans have plenty now and will have plenty in the future. And I take these PFF numbers with a more than a grain of salt. What did your eyes tell you when you watched Brown and Davenport? Looks like at least $16 million difference, to me. One can do the job, the other cannot.
Here's Belichick's opinion on PFF grading.
Remember, these grades are being doled out by amateurs just like you. It's an opinion based off uneducated guesses.
Nope. The Texans gave a hefty offer. We just stroke out. The Patriots on the other hand is known for not giving out big time contracts.
You're right, they've been made and what's done is done. We can only hope for the best. But pointing out the Texans orgs shortcomings and comparing them to a successful org like the Eagles doesn't make me a whiny *****.
Calling me names isn't the way to go with me. You obviously are trying to live up to your Avatar.