Texansphan
Football connoisseur
A decent Oline will help any RB, and Miller needs all the help he can get.
He just isn't the bell cow back O'Brien needs for his "system".
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He just isn't the bell cow back O'Brien needs for his "system".
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
A better RB makes any OL look better. See how this works?
Miller needs a ticket out of Houston.
OB disagrees his "system" needs anyone special at any position. That's where a GM should step in.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
I remember OB’s offense showing signs of life the few times Foster was healthy OB’s first season. Would really put pressure on OB/Devlin to produce a competent OL taking an RB 1st round.
But I could definitely see an Ingram/Kamara esque due in Jacobs/Foreman
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Meh, takes a very good RB to make an oline better.
Arian Foster was one of those.
Agree that Miller is not that guy.
Jacobs would not be a bad pick
And you think Jacobs is not? Viewpoint matters. It's said by at least one source that the Texans are very high on him.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
You alluded that Jacobs would be a bad pick at #23 and that he couldn't make a line look better
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Jacobs I would deem a “safe pick”. RBs are very difficult to get wrong at the top of the draft provided they stay healthy.
Question is can they hit on an OL that would make whoever we put at RB play like a 1st round pick?
Another Kamara comparison. Saints took Ryan Ramczyk in the 1st round to solidify their RT position same year they took Kamara in 3rd. Both players seem to be working out well for them.
IMO we could accomplish something similar taking Dalton Risner 1st round to solidify RT then RB 3rd (Darrell Henderson for me).
Question is can they hit on an OL that would make whoever we put at RB play like a 1st round pick?
Another Kamara comparison. Saints took Ryan Ramczyk in the 1st round to solidify their RT position same year they took Kamara in 3rd. Both players seem to be working out well for them.
IMO we could accomplish something similar taking Dalton Risner 1st round to solidify RT then RB 3rd (Darrell Henderson for me).
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Okay, but you also alluded that Jacobs was not a difference maker I've heard it both ways. I would not be upset if he was #23, but yeah certain conditons would apply
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
Wouldn't surprise me if they select Jacobs.
I am skeptical that Foreman will make it back. And Miller isn't the answer.
Will only happen if a bona fide LT is not available. IMO
Just so many needs it's hard to specify which one should be addressed first.
OL...Edge...CB...RB Gonna be hard to draft someone that doesn't fill a need.
BPA at one of these positions when we choose?
No matter who we draft though it will be a mistake according to some.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
How is edge a top need absent Clowney being traded?
Wouldn't surprise me if they select Jacobs.
I am skeptical that Foreman will make it back. And Miller isn't the answer.
Will only happen if a bona fide LT is not available. IMO
Just so many needs it's hard to specify which one should be addressed first.
OL...Edge...CB...RB Gonna be hard to draft someone that doesn't fill a need.
BPA at one of these positions when we choose?
No matter who we draft though it will be a mistake according to some.
Who are the bonafide LT's IYO?
It's OL, CB, IDL, RB imo
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
That might be the way you choose to interpret what I said but you had to read that into it to do so.
What I do think about a RB in the first round is simply "No".
The only reason I would take one in the first round is if he was a very special talent and you had a real need for a RB #1.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Belichick took a 1st round RB last year, Sony Michel (who by the way is who LZ compared Jacobs to). Just sayin'.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
They also had a need for a RB #1 having released LeGarrett Blount.
Texans have Miller and Foreman.
I doubt they have given up on Foreman yet.
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
Regarding Josh Jacobs, he may be the best RB in this draft as that is always subjective. However, IMO, I don't think he is 1st round worthy. He looks to be a good downhill runner (strength and toughness) who can also catch. But I don't think he is that unique, dominant RB that I would expect for 1st round. I wouldn't hate the pick but the 1 thing he has had at Bama that the Texans have not had of recent is a consistent, good OL.
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
I agree with what you're implying but do you think OB with Josh Jacobs could replicate the success that Belichick had with Sony Michel. This is where I struggle.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Foreman is a non-entity until proven otherwise. Miller is last year if his contract & horribly misused.
Blount left after 2016. Patriots let Dion Lewis & Mike Gillislee go after 2017.
I'm dubious of OB replicating Belichick's success at anything. But we run more so RB should be an even higher need.
I also have no faith in Devlin so don't think throwing lots of players at the OL is going to pay the anticipated benefits.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
Just a thought that Watt should stay inside. Probably wrong but he doesn't seem to have the same movement from the outside post surgery.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
draft time smoke screen??
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
Many here share your sentiments about Devlin. Do you have a preference for any OL coaches available to us?
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Many here share your sentiments about Devlin. Do you have a preference for any OL coaches available to us?
Don't know whose contracts are up and it's tough to get coaches to move laterally.
My top target would be Brian Ferentz who is currenty OC at University of Iowa where he played college before a couple years in the NFL. Has some NFL coaching experience, coincidentally basically same time with NE as OB (was TE coach when OB was OC in 2011). His father Kirk is considered one of the inventors of ZBS.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
I was hoping for Hiestand from ND before Chicago signed him. He was developing some good linemen for the Irish.
Maybe Bob Bostad inside linebackers coach for the University of Wisconsin. He was in consideration for the O line job in Alabama. Has O line coaching experience.
Where did you get Zierlein's rankings?
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Nice to see we are such sticklers for accuracy in here.
Point remains they needed a #1 back.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
He does the main board at nfl.com I believe - the draft grades at least.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
LZ writes many of the draft profiles for NFL.com.
And so do the Texans.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
He does the main board at nfl.com I believe - the draft grades at least.
I personally would like to see a better option at RB#1 but I am not naive enough to think Texans will take one with their 1st round pick when they have Miller and Foreman.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
I was hoping for Hiestand from ND before Chicago signed him. He was developing some good linemen for the Irish.
Maybe Bob Bostad inside linebackers coach for the University of Wisconsin. He was in consideration for the O line job in Alabama. Has O line coaching experience.
I've mentioned him before and I'll mention him again. Joe Rudolph, Wisconsin. He's been the Badgers Associate HC, OC and OL Coach for the past 5 seasons and he's only 46 years old. He's put some pretty good linemen in the NFL. I like his versatility as a coach as well. He was interim HC at Pitt and had a prior coaching stint at Wisconsin.
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Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Sony Michel had a good oline grading the road for him.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
https://www.vikings.com/video/lance-zierlein-s-top-5-offensive-tackles-in-the-2019-nfl-draft
I don't know if he has revised his standings since this was recorded.
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Interesting in that in discussing Jonah Williams, the first thing Zierlein says is that he can understand why teams don't have him as a LT. To me, it's a big deal when you're ranking OTs and you're not sure if the guy can stay at OT. That's the main reason I couldn't draft Williams over Dillard or Taylor.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
The Texans would make a mistake taking Williams b/c he's essentially being forecasted as Rankin was, a possible LT that would be a better LG in the NFL. I still think both Gaine and OB are holding out hope that Davenport progresses and decided to pickup Khalil in the event Davenport fizzles this season. It could be a scramble if Davenport fizzles during the Pre-Season games.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
See what you're saying but Williams projects higher than Rankin did in their respective drafts.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
They all start looking pretty the closer you get to closing time.
It's now 1:45am drafting time.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
I defer to the people who study the film and know much more about it than I do.
Zierlein ranks them 1 Williams 2 Dillard 3 Taylor 4 Little
Not smart enough to decide the cutoff point for our #23.
What are your thoughts?
In his mock he has Taylor OT going #7, Dillard OT going #9 and Williams OT going @16.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...2019-nfl-mock-draft-20-giants-reload-at-wr-qb
Seems some of the experts are as confused as us TT posters. Mocks are all over the place.
Take an edge rusher and fool all of them/us. Any player from Clemson.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I don't see why but who knows? Cards seemingly locked into Murray and maybe Giants interested in Rosen. I would think they would float Haskins at #6 to encourage trades.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Chad Reuter reminds that 2018 first round had eight trades (including pre-draft deals) and has offered some for thought.
1. Raiders #4 to 49ers for #2 and select QB Drew Lock. I say no as Lock should be there much later than #4. Raiders have the bait needed but seems like waste to me.
2. Falcons trade #14 to Lions for #8 and a DT but I say no as at least two Dexter Lawrence and Christian Wilkins there at #14
3. Giants #17 to Buffalo for #9 and QB Haskins. Reuter thinks GM will use # 6 for BPA not a QB then trade back up for Haskins. I say no. If you want Haskins get him and keep the extra picks used to move up 8 spots. No brainer to me.
Others here:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-eight-trades-that-teams-should-make-on-day-1
1. Raiders #4 to 49ers for #2 and select QB Drew Lock. I say no as Lock should be there much later than #4. Raiders have the bait needed but seems like waste to me.
2. Falcons trade #14 to Lions for #8 and a DT but I say no as at least two Dexter Lawrence and Christian Wilkins there at #14
3. Giants #17 to Buffalo for #9 and QB Haskins. Reuter thinks GM will use # 6 for BPA not a QB then trade back up for Haskins. I say no. If you want Haskins get him and keep the extra picks used to move up 8 spots. No brainer to me.
Others here:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-eight-trades-that-teams-should-make-on-day-1
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zshawn10
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Aaron Reiss
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The #Texans need a third running back, and Bill O’Brien wants a steady pass-catching presence out of the backfield.
So, with an assist from @dpbrugler, here are five running backs the Texans should target in the draft (and in the passing game): https://theathletic.com/900759/2019/04/02/five-running-backs-the-texans-should-target-in-the-draft-and-in-the-passing-game/ …
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The #Texans need a third running back, and Bill O’Brien wants a steady pass-catching presence out of the backfield.
So, with an assist from @dpbrugler, here are five running backs the Texans should target in the draft (and in the passing game): https://theathletic.com/900759/2019/04/02/five-running-backs-the-texans-should-target-in-the-draft-and-in-the-passing-game/ …
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9:08 AM - Apr 2, 2019
zshawn10
All Pro
NFL draft tier rankings: McShay’s top-graded 2019 Day 1-2 prospects
As rankings get some finishing touches, it’s sometimes easier to compare players graded very close together by tiering them. Thanks to our Scouts Inc. draft grades, we can separate the top prospects into different groups to help predict where they will come off the board during the first three rounds of the draft. Here are our draft tiers for 2019, covering all 117 prospects with a first-, second- or third-round grade, beginning with two excellent defensive linemen.
Tier 1
Grades of 95 or higher. Elite prospects. Should be immediate NFL starters and project as perennial All-Pro players. Worthy of a top-five pick most years. 2019: Two players | 2018 at this point: Three players
1. Nick Bosa, DE, Ohio State (95)
2. Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama (95)
Defensive line is the strength of the draft class, so it’s no surprise that the only two top-tier prospects come from that unit. Bosa’s 95 grade matches those of Bradley Chubb and Myles Garrett in the past two years, and with good reason. He is an elite edge rusher with terrific power and instincts. We didn’t see a defensive tackle in either of the top two tiers last year, but Williams is a real interior menace. His all-around ability puts him in this elite class with Bosa.
Tier 2
Grades between 92-94. A notch below the elite class but still considered a plug-and-play NFL starter with high-level potential. Worthy of a top-15 pick most years. 2019: Seven players | 2018: Seven players
3. Josh Allen, OLB, Kentucky (94)
4. Devin White, ILB, LSU (94)
5. Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson (92)
6. Rashan Gary, DE, Michigan (92)
7. T.J. Hockenson, TE, Iowa (92)
8. Ed Oliver, DT, Houston (92)
9. Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma (92)
Allen and White will be real difference-makers for the teams that draft them. Allen was No. 2 in the FBS in sacks (17.0) in 2018, while White made 123 tackles for LSU. Hockenson will be an impact tight end in the NFL, and Brown is an absolute burner with the ability to pluck on the run. One name to watch in this group is Oliver. He could be a high-end player at the next level if he ends up in the right scheme.
Tier 3
Grades between 90-91. Good NFL starters and are considered good values in the bottom half of Round 1 in any given draft class.
2019: Eight players | 2018: 10 players
10. Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida (91)
11. Devin Bush, ILB, Michigan (91)
12. Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma (90)
13. Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State (90)
14. Montez Sweat, DE, Mississippi State (90)
15. Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama (90)
16. Jeffery Simmons, DT, Mississippi State (90)
17. D.K. Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss (90)
We finally see the quarterbacks in this third tier. It’s important to remember this is based on scouting grades — there is plenty of chatter that the Arizona Cardinals like Murray as the No. 1 overall pick. Murray and Haskins are neck-and-neck as the top QBs in the class, with Haskins being the more pure passer of the two and Murray being the more explosive athlete. Beyond the QBs, Taylor is excellent against speed rushers, and Bush has sideline-to-sideline range at linebacker. And based on pure talent, Simmons falls in this group, but he comes with off-the-field concerns and a torn ACL recovery.
Tier 4
Grades between 85-89. Good future NFL starters. Second-round value.
2019: 28 players | 2018: 19 players
18. Drew Lock, QB, Missouri (89)
19. Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State (89)
20. Chris Lindstrom, OG, Boston College (89)
21. Johnathan Abram, S, Mississippi State (89)
22. Brian Burns, OLB, Florida State (89)
23. Josh Jacobs, RB, Alabama (89)
24. Byron Murphy, CB, Washington (89)
25. Garrett Bradbury, C, NC State (89)
26. Noah Fant, TE, Iowa (89)
27. Deandre Baker, CB, Georgia (89)
28. Greedy Williams, CB, LSU (89)
29. Clelin Ferrell, DE, Clemson (89)
30. Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson (88)
31. Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma (88)
32. Taylor Rapp, S, Washington (88)
33. Irv Smith Jr., TE, Alabama (88)
34. A.J. Brown, WR, Ole Miss (88)
35. Jerry Tillery, DT, Notre Dame (87)
36. L.J. Collier, DE, TCU (87)
37. Rock Ya-Sin, CB, Temple (87)
38. Erik McCoy, C, Texas A&M (87)
39. Ryan Finley, QB, NC State (86)
40. Tytus Howard, OT, Alabama State (86)
41. N’Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State (86)
42. Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina (86)
43. Darnell Savage Jr., S, Maryland (86)
44. Nasir Adderley, S, Delaware (85)
45. Parris Campbell, WR, Ohio State (85)
Lock has terrific arm strength and mobility for a quarterback, and he could end up going in the top 10. If you need a wide receiver, there are four solid ones in this group, starting with Ole Miss’ Brown. And if you need a corner to cover one of those wideouts, this tier is here to help as well. Murphy’s ball skills are elite, and Baker has the best instincts of the cornerbacks in the class. Oh, and we finally get a running back here with Alabama’s Jacobs. He runs violently through the hole.
Tier 5
Grades between 80-84. Future solid-to-good NFL starters but might need to serve in substitution package/situational role early in career. Mid-to-late-second-round value. 2019: 19 players | 2018: 26 players
46. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, S, Florida (84)
47. Jaylon Ferguson, DE, Louisiana Tech (84)
48. Kaleb McGary, OT, Washington (83)
49. Justin Layne, CB, Michigan State (83)
50. Dalton Risner, OT, Kansas State (82)
51. Miles Sanders, RB, Penn State (82)
52. Trayvon Mullen, CB, Clemson (82)
53. Jarrett Stidham, QB, Auburn (81)
54. Oshane Ximines, DE, Old Dominion (82)
55. David Long, CB, Michigan (81)
56. Dre’Mont Jones, DT, Ohio State (81)
57. Chase Winovich, DE, Michigan (81)
58. Gerald Willis III, DT, Miami (80)
59. David Montgomery, RB, Iowa State (80)
60. Elgton Jenkins, C, Mississippi State (80)
61. Lonnie Johnson Jr., CB, Kentucky (80)
62. Zach Allen, DE, Boston College (80)
63. Deionte Thompson, S, Alabama (80)
64. JJ Arcega-Whiteside, WR, Stanford (80)
Ferguson stockpiled numbers at Louisiana Tech last season, Sanders has above-average instincts in space, Mullen has smooth hips in coverage and Ximines’ speed-to-power ought to make him Old Dominion’s first draft pick ever. There’s potential in this group of prospects.
Tier 6
Grades between 70-79. Project as future solid starters but need time to develop, have limited upside or come with baggage. Third-round value. 2019: 53 players | 2018: 43 players
65. Daniel Jones, QB, Duke (79)
66. Jachai Polite, DE, Florida (79)
67. Dru Samia, OG, Oklahoma (78)
68. Riley Ridley, WR, Georgia (78)
69. Jamel Dean, CB, Auburn (77)
70. Germaine Pratt, OLB, NC State (77)
71. Chuma Edoga, OT, USC (77)
72. Justice Hill, RB, Oklahoma State (77)
73. Juan Thornhill, CB, Virginia (76)
74. Mack Wilson, ILB, Alabama (76)
75. Trayveon Williams, RB, Texas A&M (76)
76. Jace Sternberger, TE, Texas A&M (76)
77. Amani Oruwariye, CB, Penn State (75)
78. Joe Jackson, DE, Miami (75)
79. Amani Hooker, S, Iowa (75)
80. Vosean Joseph, OLB, Florida (75)
81. Damien Harris, RB, Alabama (75)
82. Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa State (75)
83. Kelvin Harmon, WR, NC State (75)
84. Julian Love, CB, Notre Dame (74)
85. Michael Jordan , OG, Ohio State (74)
86. Ben Banogu, OLB, TCU (74)
87. David Edwards, OT, Wisconsin (74)
88. Darrell Henderson, RB, Memphis (74)
89. Dawson Knox, TE, Ole Miss (74)
90. Andy Isabella, WR, UMass (74)
91. Kendall Sheffield, CB, Ohio State (73)
92. Will Harris, S, Boston College (73)
93. Bryce Love, RB, Stanford (73)
94. Michael Deiter, OG, Wisconsin (73)
95. Yodny Cajuste, OT, West Virginia (73)
96. Tommy Sweeney, TE, Boston College (73)
97. Terry McLaurin, WR, Ohio State (73)
98. Marquise Blair, S, Utah (72)
99. Corey Ballentine, CB, Washburn (72)
100. Terrill Hanks, ILB, New Mexico State (72)
101. Justin Hollins, OLB, Oregon (72)
102. Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss (72)
103. Jalen Hurd, WR, Baylor (72)
104. Ben Powers, OG, Oklahoma (71)
105. Sean Bunting, CB, Central Michigan (71)
106. Carl Granderson, DE, Wyoming (71)
107. Marvell Tell III, S, USC (71)
108. Cameron Smith, ILB, USC (71)
109. Josh Oliver, TE, San Jose State (71)
110. Mecole Hardman, WR, Georgia (71)
111. Terry Beckner Jr., DT, Missouri (70)
112. Jalen Jelks, DE, Oregon (70)
113. Jaquan Johnson, S, Miami (70)
114. Tre Lamar, ILB, Clemson (70)
115. Tyree Jackson, QB, Buffalo (70)
116. Kahale Warring, TE, San Diego State (70)
117. Miles Boykin, WR, Notre Dame (70)
Jones and Polite have both fallen quite a bit. I have concerns about Jones’ arm strength and ability to throw accurately under pressure. And Polite has had a rough pre-draft run, starting with poor combine interviews and culminating in a disappointing pro day. Keep an eye on the speed in Tier 6: Hill, Isabella and McLaurin have serious wheels
Tier 1
Grades of 95 or higher. Elite prospects. Should be immediate NFL starters and project as perennial All-Pro players. Worthy of a top-five pick most years. 2019: Two players | 2018 at this point: Three players
1. Nick Bosa, DE, Ohio State (95)
2. Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama (95)
Defensive line is the strength of the draft class, so it’s no surprise that the only two top-tier prospects come from that unit. Bosa’s 95 grade matches those of Bradley Chubb and Myles Garrett in the past two years, and with good reason. He is an elite edge rusher with terrific power and instincts. We didn’t see a defensive tackle in either of the top two tiers last year, but Williams is a real interior menace. His all-around ability puts him in this elite class with Bosa.
Tier 2
Grades between 92-94. A notch below the elite class but still considered a plug-and-play NFL starter with high-level potential. Worthy of a top-15 pick most years. 2019: Seven players | 2018: Seven players
3. Josh Allen, OLB, Kentucky (94)
4. Devin White, ILB, LSU (94)
5. Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson (92)
6. Rashan Gary, DE, Michigan (92)
7. T.J. Hockenson, TE, Iowa (92)
8. Ed Oliver, DT, Houston (92)
9. Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma (92)
Allen and White will be real difference-makers for the teams that draft them. Allen was No. 2 in the FBS in sacks (17.0) in 2018, while White made 123 tackles for LSU. Hockenson will be an impact tight end in the NFL, and Brown is an absolute burner with the ability to pluck on the run. One name to watch in this group is Oliver. He could be a high-end player at the next level if he ends up in the right scheme.
Tier 3
Grades between 90-91. Good NFL starters and are considered good values in the bottom half of Round 1 in any given draft class.
2019: Eight players | 2018: 10 players
10. Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida (91)
11. Devin Bush, ILB, Michigan (91)
12. Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma (90)
13. Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State (90)
14. Montez Sweat, DE, Mississippi State (90)
15. Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama (90)
16. Jeffery Simmons, DT, Mississippi State (90)
17. D.K. Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss (90)
We finally see the quarterbacks in this third tier. It’s important to remember this is based on scouting grades — there is plenty of chatter that the Arizona Cardinals like Murray as the No. 1 overall pick. Murray and Haskins are neck-and-neck as the top QBs in the class, with Haskins being the more pure passer of the two and Murray being the more explosive athlete. Beyond the QBs, Taylor is excellent against speed rushers, and Bush has sideline-to-sideline range at linebacker. And based on pure talent, Simmons falls in this group, but he comes with off-the-field concerns and a torn ACL recovery.
Tier 4
Grades between 85-89. Good future NFL starters. Second-round value.
2019: 28 players | 2018: 19 players
18. Drew Lock, QB, Missouri (89)
19. Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State (89)
20. Chris Lindstrom, OG, Boston College (89)
21. Johnathan Abram, S, Mississippi State (89)
22. Brian Burns, OLB, Florida State (89)
23. Josh Jacobs, RB, Alabama (89)
24. Byron Murphy, CB, Washington (89)
25. Garrett Bradbury, C, NC State (89)
26. Noah Fant, TE, Iowa (89)
27. Deandre Baker, CB, Georgia (89)
28. Greedy Williams, CB, LSU (89)
29. Clelin Ferrell, DE, Clemson (89)
30. Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson (88)
31. Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma (88)
32. Taylor Rapp, S, Washington (88)
33. Irv Smith Jr., TE, Alabama (88)
34. A.J. Brown, WR, Ole Miss (88)
35. Jerry Tillery, DT, Notre Dame (87)
36. L.J. Collier, DE, TCU (87)
37. Rock Ya-Sin, CB, Temple (87)
38. Erik McCoy, C, Texas A&M (87)
39. Ryan Finley, QB, NC State (86)
40. Tytus Howard, OT, Alabama State (86)
41. N’Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State (86)
42. Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina (86)
43. Darnell Savage Jr., S, Maryland (86)
44. Nasir Adderley, S, Delaware (85)
45. Parris Campbell, WR, Ohio State (85)
Lock has terrific arm strength and mobility for a quarterback, and he could end up going in the top 10. If you need a wide receiver, there are four solid ones in this group, starting with Ole Miss’ Brown. And if you need a corner to cover one of those wideouts, this tier is here to help as well. Murphy’s ball skills are elite, and Baker has the best instincts of the cornerbacks in the class. Oh, and we finally get a running back here with Alabama’s Jacobs. He runs violently through the hole.
Tier 5
Grades between 80-84. Future solid-to-good NFL starters but might need to serve in substitution package/situational role early in career. Mid-to-late-second-round value. 2019: 19 players | 2018: 26 players
46. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, S, Florida (84)
47. Jaylon Ferguson, DE, Louisiana Tech (84)
48. Kaleb McGary, OT, Washington (83)
49. Justin Layne, CB, Michigan State (83)
50. Dalton Risner, OT, Kansas State (82)
51. Miles Sanders, RB, Penn State (82)
52. Trayvon Mullen, CB, Clemson (82)
53. Jarrett Stidham, QB, Auburn (81)
54. Oshane Ximines, DE, Old Dominion (82)
55. David Long, CB, Michigan (81)
56. Dre’Mont Jones, DT, Ohio State (81)
57. Chase Winovich, DE, Michigan (81)
58. Gerald Willis III, DT, Miami (80)
59. David Montgomery, RB, Iowa State (80)
60. Elgton Jenkins, C, Mississippi State (80)
61. Lonnie Johnson Jr., CB, Kentucky (80)
62. Zach Allen, DE, Boston College (80)
63. Deionte Thompson, S, Alabama (80)
64. JJ Arcega-Whiteside, WR, Stanford (80)
Ferguson stockpiled numbers at Louisiana Tech last season, Sanders has above-average instincts in space, Mullen has smooth hips in coverage and Ximines’ speed-to-power ought to make him Old Dominion’s first draft pick ever. There’s potential in this group of prospects.
Tier 6
Grades between 70-79. Project as future solid starters but need time to develop, have limited upside or come with baggage. Third-round value. 2019: 53 players | 2018: 43 players
65. Daniel Jones, QB, Duke (79)
66. Jachai Polite, DE, Florida (79)
67. Dru Samia, OG, Oklahoma (78)
68. Riley Ridley, WR, Georgia (78)
69. Jamel Dean, CB, Auburn (77)
70. Germaine Pratt, OLB, NC State (77)
71. Chuma Edoga, OT, USC (77)
72. Justice Hill, RB, Oklahoma State (77)
73. Juan Thornhill, CB, Virginia (76)
74. Mack Wilson, ILB, Alabama (76)
75. Trayveon Williams, RB, Texas A&M (76)
76. Jace Sternberger, TE, Texas A&M (76)
77. Amani Oruwariye, CB, Penn State (75)
78. Joe Jackson, DE, Miami (75)
79. Amani Hooker, S, Iowa (75)
80. Vosean Joseph, OLB, Florida (75)
81. Damien Harris, RB, Alabama (75)
82. Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa State (75)
83. Kelvin Harmon, WR, NC State (75)
84. Julian Love, CB, Notre Dame (74)
85. Michael Jordan , OG, Ohio State (74)
86. Ben Banogu, OLB, TCU (74)
87. David Edwards, OT, Wisconsin (74)
88. Darrell Henderson, RB, Memphis (74)
89. Dawson Knox, TE, Ole Miss (74)
90. Andy Isabella, WR, UMass (74)
91. Kendall Sheffield, CB, Ohio State (73)
92. Will Harris, S, Boston College (73)
93. Bryce Love, RB, Stanford (73)
94. Michael Deiter, OG, Wisconsin (73)
95. Yodny Cajuste, OT, West Virginia (73)
96. Tommy Sweeney, TE, Boston College (73)
97. Terry McLaurin, WR, Ohio State (73)
98. Marquise Blair, S, Utah (72)
99. Corey Ballentine, CB, Washburn (72)
100. Terrill Hanks, ILB, New Mexico State (72)
101. Justin Hollins, OLB, Oregon (72)
102. Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss (72)
103. Jalen Hurd, WR, Baylor (72)
104. Ben Powers, OG, Oklahoma (71)
105. Sean Bunting, CB, Central Michigan (71)
106. Carl Granderson, DE, Wyoming (71)
107. Marvell Tell III, S, USC (71)
108. Cameron Smith, ILB, USC (71)
109. Josh Oliver, TE, San Jose State (71)
110. Mecole Hardman, WR, Georgia (71)
111. Terry Beckner Jr., DT, Missouri (70)
112. Jalen Jelks, DE, Oregon (70)
113. Jaquan Johnson, S, Miami (70)
114. Tre Lamar, ILB, Clemson (70)
115. Tyree Jackson, QB, Buffalo (70)
116. Kahale Warring, TE, San Diego State (70)
117. Miles Boykin, WR, Notre Dame (70)
Jones and Polite have both fallen quite a bit. I have concerns about Jones’ arm strength and ability to throw accurately under pressure. And Polite has had a rough pre-draft run, starting with poor combine interviews and culminating in a disappointing pro day. Keep an eye on the speed in Tier 6: Hill, Isabella and McLaurin have serious wheels
badboy
Hall of Fame
I'm interested in how AJ Moore will do this season; a bubble guy claimed September of 2018 after PATs waived him. He's had a year of playbook even if he had little on field experience. 5'11" and 200 lbs he played nickle at Ole Miss with 48 Ts 3 for loss, one 15 yard sack and a QB hurry with 3 PBUs his senior year with similar stats his junior year.
Hal's retirement does add $3.5 million and I would like to bring Tre Boston in from the cold. He played one year deal for Arizona $1.5 m stats: He finished the season with 79 tackles, nine pass deflections, three interceptions, and a forced fumble. His 79 tackles finished fourth on the team and his nine pass deflections led the team. He turns 27 end of June and is 6 foot 204.
Hal's retirement does add $3.5 million and I would like to bring Tre Boston in from the cold. He played one year deal for Arizona $1.5 m stats: He finished the season with 79 tackles, nine pass deflections, three interceptions, and a forced fumble. His 79 tackles finished fourth on the team and his nine pass deflections led the team. He turns 27 end of June and is 6 foot 204.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
I wanted Boston last season and don't understand why he took so long to catch on with another team last offseason or this one. He'd be an upgrade over Hal.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I wanted also and only issue I could find was his support of Kaepernic. Stat wise he's really excellent
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Similar to Gipson a solid steady vet. Him and Gipson both would complement Reid nicely and help him continue his development as one of the top safeties in the league.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Just a reminder the draft begins Thursday April 25th local 7 pm and ABC will carry this year at least day one. Espn will carry Thursday and Friday [rounds 2 & 3 at 6 pm] and IIRC ESPN2 Saturday the rest beginning at 1 pm. Due to depth at cornerbacks and our team needs I suggest Saturday could be a very good day to watch.
Is the NFLNetwork also going to carry all three days of the Draft again ?