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**Official Wild Card Round Playoff Game-Day Thread** Colts at Texans, Saturday Jan 5, 2019!!

powda said:
Coaching plays a part no dispute. So does talent.
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Ps : I'm holding a coach just as responsible or more so then Ricky. The but chin happens to be white.

Cant believe you went that route.
 
thunderkyss said:
I agree. It was smart for him to slow it down & settle Watson. He should have done it earlier.

Settle him down, get the score, then speed it up.

He should have done it sooner. He didn't. Speeding it up on that drive & that drive would have ended like all the others before it. Jmo
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Actually what I am saying is that I think DW4 is better playing at a faster pace. But since that did not happen in this game it would have been wise to do that at the end of the third quarter through the fourth quarter of this game when there was still a punchers chance to win this game.
 
Texazan said:
Then you gotta flush JJoe, KJ, Wright, Kjax, Colvin, Hal, etc, get it? They all sucked today so why is this all on Mathieu? He got let go in AZ over money not performance. The guy is still solid. You’re still going to pay in FA so what’s point?
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He's not a playmaker. He should be making closer to league minimum than premium dollars. I'm talking a major paycut if we're going to keep him.
 
Is ty still a clown? Looks like a hof'er every time I watch him.
 
Texazan said:
He’s making 10m this year, I’d offer him that and a guaranteed amount that makes sense otherwise we’ll be using a draft pick again. Otherwise we have got to revamp the CBs and be able to have Kjax and Hal at safety.
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Kjax hal and reid. No way I'm paying stupid money for badger. Focus on CB in the draft (along with ol obviously.)
 
Texansballer74 said:
He is not our damn GM anymore, so wtf are we still bringing him up. Again irrelevant crap, how about pointing blame on Obrien and Crennel. And we have the freaking talent unfortunately the coaching staff doesn't know how to use it.
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LMAO..........Anybody talking about "we have the talent" to compete for a SB loses all credibility when speaking about this current texans team.
 
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Carr Bombed said:
Get out of your damn fantasy land.. he already grew out of that before we let him walk.

"Please" give me a break.. Bouye has been arguably their best corner (playing with Ramsey).

BTW.. WTF did bum ass Colvin do this year? Maybe we should actually keep grown talent instead of letting them walk to damn divisional rivals and are left with a crypt of aging corners and no cap space to even show for it.

You can't even attempt to excuse that decision.. it was shitty as hell, but par for the course in this city.

COLVIN DIDN'T EVEN PLAY!!.. ETC, We had to throw players like crappy ass Wright out on the damn field which cost us games which was one of the major reasons why we even had to play this damn game to begin with.

That was just another incedibibly stupid decision by this franchise.
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Yeah you are right, we should have kept Bouye, I was just pissed in the moment. Not sorry about Brown though.
 
Countreekidd said:
Our schedule was easier this season because we had a lousy season last year, so with a healthy Watson, we should have had a good regular season record, and we did--but we weren't dominating by a long shot, we were 'escaping' with a couple of wins. Everyone keeps saying it but it can't be said enough--we weren't as good as our record, we have weaknesses that good teams are able to exploit. Our only chance would have been a miraculous post season where everything just 'clicked'...
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Who perpatrates this easier schedule myth?

We always play 6 division games, we always play an NFC division (NFC East this year), we always play an AFC division (AFC east this year) that leaves 2 frikkin “easy” games.

We drew the Broncos and the Browns this year.

2 games.
 
Not mad or surprised by the outcome. As long as BoB is the HC it’s gonna be just like the George Strait song - I’ve Come to Expect it From You

I’d rather hear that than the clay walker crap
 
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Big Lou said:
Yeah you are right, we should have kept Bouye, I was just pissed in the moment. Not sorry about Brown though.
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Shouldve kept bouye, brown, and Brooks. I realize it's free agency and they have a choice in the matter (minus brown in this scenario) but that talent would've helped a lot today. Oddly enough we lost them during the tenure of a certain gm. What happened in recent years impacts TODAY.

So yeah, I blame ricky partiality. I also blame OB.
 
thunderkyss said:
He's not a playmaker. He should be making closer to league minimum than premium dollars. I'm talking a major paycut if we're going to keep him.
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As our CBs broke down at the end of the year it further exposed our FS/SS and I cant pin that all on them. Again, IF we can bolster CB play AND CB depth then we can keep Hal, Reid and Kjax back there then fine other wise I’d try and keep him.
 
I understand all the OB criticism unless someone says he didn’t let Watson handle the reigns. The Texans handed the ball off to running backs 8 times. This was Watson’s game to win and he was pretty bad today. He had some shocking inaccurate passes, really terrible.
 
chicagotexan2 said:
Not mad or surprised by the outcome. As long as BoB is the HC it’s gonna be just like the George Strait song - I’ve Come to Expect it From You
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I feel the same, I was more disappointed in the Philly game. Yes, it's expected--unprepared to start the season, grind out wins in the middle versus bad teams and bad QBs, then end the season unprepared for the playoffs. Not as symmetrical as 2016 where we lost bad to the Chiefs week 1 AT HOME, won enough to make the playoffs, then lost bad to the Chiefs in the Wildcard AT HOME.

No Connor Cook this year. Crennel has Super Bowl rings, so it's hard to argue with his game plan, but Luck was just like other QBs we faced this year, very comfortable EXCEPT when we attacked with blitzes (because the idea of Watt+Clowney+Mercilus has been much more powerful than the reality). And Crennel didn't blitz the 1st half much.

In addition to this being offseason #2 in the ongoing rebuild of the offensive line, we need an actual pro pass rusher to go with Watt, as Clowney is now a TE-sized, mentally soft complement to the defense. He proved this year he wasn't worth a big extension. He wants to be agile, lithe, speedy and "athletic" only, so maybe they should convert him to tight end already. I doubt he could take playing middle LB.
 
banned1976 said:
I understand all the OB criticism unless someone says he didn’t let Watson handle the reigns. The Texans handed the ball off to running backs 8 times. This was Watson’s game to win and he was pretty bad today. He had some shocking inaccurate passes, really terrible.
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The problem isn't simply throwing vs rushing. It's knowing when to call a WR screen, when to dial up a long pass, when to dial up the HB draw, how to scheme guys open, how to scheme quick routes like slants, how to scheme rub plays....I hate when you and Mr Tex try to water down what OB is responsible for and simply lay the blame on players. The coaching staff in the NFL matters more than any other sport and the Colts are the prime example for today.
 
banned1976 said:
I understand all the OB criticism unless someone says he didn’t let Watson handle the reigns. The Texans handed the ball off to running backs 8 times. This was Watson’s game to win and he was pretty bad today. He had some shocking inaccurate passes, really terrible.
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He did. Without being hit so often and with a better run game I suspect he would've played a lot better.

Ol. Get them.
 
banned1976 said:
I understand all the OB criticism unless someone says he didn’t let Watson handle the reigns. The Texans handed the ball off to running backs 8 times. This was Watson’s game to win and he was pretty bad today. He had some shocking inaccurate passes, really terrible.
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He had bad misreads that he didn't have in the regular season, but those inaccurate throws seemed like a hurt thumb, finger or his hand. I saw his cut finger, so it may have have been that finger or it was part of something else.

No run game to help out, because O'Brien threw it aside once down 14-0 and desperately started going for it on 4th down in the 1st half! Just like he desperately went for it on 4th vs Philly and didn't make it when a FG would have been the 3 points to win the game.
 
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amazing80 said:
The problem isn't simply throwing vs rushing. It's knowing when to call a WR screen, when to dial up a long pass, when to dial up the HB draw, how to scheme guys open, how to scheme quick routes like slants, how to scheme rub plays....I hate when you and Mr Tex try to water down what OB is responsible for and simply lay the blame on players. The coaching staff in the NFL matters more than any other sport and the Colts are the prime example for today.
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I’ve written before I want a complete turnover of the coaching staff except the new STs coach.

Now what I hate is when people ignore all the other issues inside of a game to place it square on one guy. The players own some responsibility sometimes don’t they? Yes, Watson didn’t Hoyer the game up but he had a bad game.
 
He had a shitty performance because O’Brien has ruined him with the way he's been used over the course of his career thus far. Clock is off. Instinct is off. Decision-making is off. He's not put into a position to succeed.

He was trash today. My fear is that he's become that way and I fear that it's getting to be irreparable.
 
banned1976 said:
I’ve written before I want a complete turnover of the coaching staff except the new STs coach.

Now what I hate is when people ignore all the other issues inside of a game to place it square on one guy. The players own some responsibility sometimes don’t they? Yes, Watson didn’t Hoyer the game up but he had a bad game.
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The st play this year is a forgotten gem. So much better then the past. Get a real return man and I'll be thrilled.
 
EVOLVIST said:
Good post. It's that the offensive system in Houston is inherently flawed, inasmuch as it's predicated on the running game, but there are very few short to intermediate routes. In other words, they want to ground the ball for short yardage, yet get chunk plays in the air.

I don't think O'Brien's "scheme" was anything that we expected when he came out of New England. The guy called plays for Tom Brady, which consisted of a lot of intermediate timing routes. Brady eats defenses up with that, and O'Brien is saying that Watson can't do the same?

I understand wanting to put your own stamp on your own team. I get that. However, when making your mark also means throwing everything else you learned from the past out of the window, that's damaging to your reputation, to the team, and to the city you represent.

This is O'Brien's fatal flaw...and this is where we sit today. I'm afraid that when/if they hand over the play calling to an OC, the OC will be limited by O'Brien's myopia.
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This is a match up game & All the colts did was shade coverage to Nuk & make DW4 check it down to the short routes & use those other guys who couldn't consistently win their match ups on short routes......or long routes for that matter. The short routes are Coutee's wheelhouse.................... that's why he ate good in this game & the 1st game he played against them. The long & short of it is there are plentyo f short & intermediate routes...The talent just has to win.

The 2nd thing is when you don't have the weaponry to do anything everyone's scheme can look pedestrian. Andy Reid's offense looked like hot garbage for alot of years when all he had was Smith & Kelce. Pretty sure he had 1 year where his WR's didn't have a single TD catch. He gets Hill, Hunt & Mahomes & his **** is blows up. This isn't even talking about the investment he had to make in the o-line.

I think BoB needs an OC...if for only so people can get off this notion that someone else calling the plays is going to make much of a difference...It will look largely the same. just like it did when he had Godsey calling the plays....I doubt it makes a difference even if he brings in an OC and lets them run their own offense. If the talent level does not improve on the o-line & at the key skill positions, it won't matter who's calling the plays and what offense we're running.

Its so painfully obvious that talent is what's needed on the offense for them to take the next step its ridiculous.

I also think Crennel needs to be let go...The game has passed him by imo. You just can't let 1 guy kill you EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
I wish returns still happened in football. Would be nice to have more game variance by field position gains, etc.
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Agreed. I think the new rules will make players with return talent easier to get in the draft. (Other teams will value them far less.) A #4 wr with legit return skills should be drafted. We need any edge we can get.
 
I think the OL played well. Blitz pickup was an issue. More so with recognition & Lamar Miller is too small to try to block a LB straight up.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
He had a shitty performance because O’Brien has ruined him with the way he's been used over the course of his career thus far. Clock is off. Instinct is off. Decision-making is off. He's not put into a position to succeed.

He was trash today. My fear is that he's become that way and I fear that it's getting to be irreparable.
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Young qb still growing as a passer.......accuracy

1st time in the playoffs.........nerves

limited weaponry to work with on offense.......confusion

bad o-line....that's gonna get him hit alot........accuracy, nerves



yeah DW4's performance today was about as predictable as my birthday & your assertion is fairly ridiculous and unfounded.

Im not worried though, It was a lesson for the kid...one that pretty much every qb gets their 1st go round in the dance. He'll learn & the team will grow & improve around him .
 
thunderkyss said:
I think the OL played well. Blitz pickup was an issue. More so with recognition & Lamar Miller is too small to try to block a LB straight up.
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Did they? still couldn't run it & the only reason why the sack totals weren't higher was b/c DW4 did a fairly good job of checking down & throwing it away. DW4 was also off on a number of throws that would've changed the game............mainly b/c he was constantly being moved off his spot &/or getting hit. Contrast that with the clean pocket Luck operated from all game.
 
thunderkyss said:
I think the OL played well. Blitz pickup was an issue. More so with recognition & Lamar Miller is too small to try to block a LB straight up.
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Blitz pick up absolutely sucked today and it's all on tape. Next year we'll be blitzed until we prove we can beat it.

I don't think the ol played well today. Maybe they played well for this ol (if that's what you mean) but in comparison to a legit playoff team ol, they did not.

Take a lesson from the colts and invest heavily there to protect the only franchise qb this city has known since moon/McNair.
 
DBCooper said:
Who perpatrates this easier schedule myth?

We always play 6 division games, we always play an NFC division (NFC East this year), we always play an AFC division (AFC east this year) that leaves 2 frikkin “easy” games.

We drew the Broncos and the Browns this year.

2 games.
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Not really a myth, it's just the way it works...you just said it yourself. You can argue that those 2 games out of 16 don't matter, but we won the division by 1 win, and lost the bye by 1 game. Honestly I didn't expect us to do as well as we did, just because we had an arguably better schedule than most (considering we'd be getting Watson and Watt back)--it's weird to say that, but I attribute a lot of the offense we saw last year, before Watson was injured, was due to it's 'improvised' nature, but given time to ummm...what's the best phrase? "tailor an offense" maybe? You have to have the right vision, and I wasn't confident our coaches could do that.
 
Jadmakaveli said:
Colts weren't and probably wont ever be a good match up for us till we make a lot of changes.
Its so many holes on this team with no depth. This is going to take at least 2 more seasons to fix.
SteelB been trying to tell people.
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@steelbtexan has been an absolute pariah here for years and I've always agreed with him. Its comical watching the masses close in on him - especially after a win. He doesn't tow the company line. He doesn't say what people want to hear. This team has made a lot of bad decisions. You want proof of that? How many superbowl wins do we have? Phucking nada. Having a product on the field is not success. Playoff wins and winning seasons mean little. There is only one absolute, perfect, timeless goal that matters.

Lombardi.

We deserve it and until the Texans hold it, we are doing something wrong.
 
The defense is top 5 and got ran over. They couldn't get off the field in the first half. Couple that with the fact the Watson is just not an accurate passer, led to the defeat. I think they lost their invincibility when the Colts beat them in the second meeting and got out of their win streak. By the way the announcers where talking, you would have thought Watson was the second coming of Joe Montana. I am not sure if he was the 3rd best qb at the game. I am just not convinced he is that good. Clearly, the Colts outcoached and outplayed the Texans. And Luck is head and shoulders above Watson.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Typically of you. We won 11 games without having any ******* talent at all. The experts who think they know it all.
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having no talent.......& enough talent to compete for a SB are too different things. But you still mad b/c i shred your dumb ass takes....
 
Mr teX said:
Young qb still growing as a passer.......accuracy

1st time in the playoffs.........nerves

limited weaponry to work with on offense.......confusion

bad o-line....that's gonna get him hit alot........accuracy, nerves



yeah DW4's performance today was about as predictable as my birthday & your assertion is fairly ridiculous and unfounded.

Im not worried though, It was a lesson for the kid...one that pretty much every qb gets their 1st go round in the dance. He'll learn & the team will grow & improve around him .
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DW4 was trash today as a qb. Just admit it. His second yr in a the league.
Mr teX said:
Young qb still growing as a passer.......accuracy

1st time in the playoffs.........nerves

limited weaponry to work with on offense.......confusion

bad o-line....that's gonna get him hit alot........accuracy, nerves



yeah DW4's performance today was about as predictable as my birthday & your assertion is fairly ridiculous and unfounded.

Im not worried though, It was a lesson for the kid...one that pretty much every qb gets their 1st go round in the dance. He'll learn & the team will grow & improve around him .
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I agree with matrix
Just sayin
 
ATXtexanfan said:
DW4 was trash today as a qb. Just admit it. His second yr in a the league.

I agree with matrix
Just sayin
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He wasn't quite trash...but he clearly wasn't at his best...no disputing that at all...& of course you would, most of you guys think good offense is just a matter of calling the right play.
 
Mr teX said:
He wasn't quite trash...but he clearly wasn't at his best...no disputing that at all...& of course you would, most of you guys think good offense is just a matter of calling the right play.
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I have never hated another poster as much as I do you. You love watering down peoples thoughts into some generic ass take.
 
danible said:
The defense is top 5 and got ran over. They couldn't get off the field in the first half. Couple that with the fact the Watson is just not an accurate passer, led to the defeat. I think they lost their invincibility when the Colts beat them in the second meeting and got out of their win streak. By the way the announcers where talking, you would have thought Watson was the second coming of Joe Montana. I am not sure if he was the 3rd best qb at the game. I am just not convinced he is that good. Clearly, the Colts outcoached and outplayed the Texans. And Luck is head and shoulders above Watson.
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Watson's been sacked 60 plus times this year. No run game. Bad game management. Poor route designs downfield. I'm not telling you he's better then luck - but we can win with him.

Luck's had some bad ol's in the past and looked like or worse then watson.
 
powda said:
Watson's been sacked 60 plus times this year. No run game. Bad game management. Poor route designs downfield. I'm not telling you he's better then luck - but we can win with him.

Luck's had some bad ol's in the past and looked like or worse then watson.
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And look what happened when Luck got a competent play caller who could help cover the deficiencies.
 
amazing80 said:
I have never hated another poster as much as I do you. You love watering down peoples thoughts into some generic ass take.
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That's b/c...............they are generic. Be mad & block me then..lord knows i could do without some of the trash ya'll post in here.
 
Countreekidd said:
Not really a myth, it's just the way it works...you just said it yourself. You can argue that those 2 games out of 16 don't matter, but we won the division by 1 win, and lost the bye by 1 game. Honestly I didn't expect us to do as well as we did, just because we had an arguably better schedule than most (considering we'd be getting Watson and Watt back)--it's weird to say that, but I attribute a lot of the offense we saw last year, before Watson was injured, was due to it's 'improvised' nature, but given time to ummm...what's the best phrase? "tailor an offense" maybe? You have to have the right vision, and I wasn't confident our coaches could do that.
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I’d say the strength of our division, the strength of the AFC division, and the strength of the NFC division played a much bigger factor in the ease or not of our schedule than those 2 games.

We were going to play those same 14 games whether we won all our games the year before or if we lost them.
 
powda said:
80 and @Mr teX have both been summoned to the thunderdome!
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I believe in conflict resolution. I think its therapeutic for all parties and may in fact result in a bond.

I know a guy - he happens to be a poster here named "big lou" and he owns lou's tavern. He has a basement where you guys can hash this out.

Just one thing. There are some rules. The first rule is...
 
powda said:
I believe in conflict resolution. I think its therapeutic for all parties and may in fact result in a bond.

I know a guy - he happens to be a poster here named "big lou" and he owns lou's tavern. He has a basement where you guys can hash this out.

Just one thing. There are some rules. The first rule is...
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lol..
 
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