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What's your plan for QB next season?

PapaL said:
To quote Michael Jeffrey Jordan, the ceiling is the limit.
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Lucky said:
Why is it that Savage needs "several years" of coaching, but Dak Prescott can produce in his first season? Can't it just be a case where some guys get it and some don't? And this is Savage's contract year. School has to be over now.
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I think it's because Dak actually played the three years previous to being drafted where Savage only played the previous season & not the two previous seasons.

I liked the way Savage progressed his senior season. I thought he was much better at the end of the season than he was at the beginning. I personally thought we should have thrown him to the wolves. He needed playing time imo.


bah007 said:
Maybe I'm just crazy. I understand the importance of the QB position, trust me. But I just don't see it at all with these guys. We're in the market for a QB and I think that's causing fans to fall in love with QBs that really aren't all that. Star struck by potential because of what we have (and don't have) on the roster.

Barring trades, I have Trubisky going 12 and Watson going 27. That's it.

With trades, I think 10, 11, 24, 25, 26, and 32 are all prime spots to trade.

I could see a trade landing Trubisky at 10 or 11. A trade could get Watson at 24, 25, or 26. And I could also see someone trading into 32 for Mahomes.

Who knows? Maybe I'll be spectacularly wrong. But I look at the talent in this class and then look at the QBs and I see zero chance that three of them are off the board before 25.
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Just to be clear, I'm asking "if"

I don't know the Texans think any of these guys are worth trading up to get them. I'm just saying "if" they did, why not trade up.
 
bah007 said:
Maybe I'm just crazy. I understand the importance of the QB position, trust me. But I just don't see it at all with these guys. We're in the market for a QB and I think that's causing fans to fall in love with QBs that really aren't all that. Star struck by potential because of what we have (and don't have) on the roster.

Barring trades, I have Trubisky going 12 and Watson going 27. That's it.

With trades, I think 10, 11, 24, 25, 26, and 32 are all prime spots to trade.

I could see a trade landing Trubisky at 10 or 11. A trade could get Watson at 24, 25, or 26. And I could also see someone trading into 32 for Mahomes.

Who knows? Maybe I'll be spectacularly wrong. But I look at the talent in this class and then look at the QBs and I see zero chance that three of them are off the board before 25.
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I could see teams trading back into the bottom of the 1st rd for a QB to develop because of the 5th yr option.
 
bah007 said:
Who knows? Maybe I'll be spectacularly wrong. But I look at the talent in this class and then look at the QBs and I see zero chance that three of them are off the board before 25.
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I think you have to look at the state of the QB position in the NFL.

Brock Osweiler got a $17 million/year deal after turning down a $15 million/year deal.

Mike Glennon received a $15 million/year deal.

Jimmy Garopollo has a trade price tag of 2 1st round picks. Two.

AJ McCarron has a 1st round trade price tag.

Look at those guys. And look at these guys in the draft. Who is more talented? Who is cheaper? After answering those questions, it should come as no surprise that these 3 prospects will be high 1st round picks.
 
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PapaL said:
Schaub on this team would join the ranks of Dilfer, Brad Johnson, and Russel Wilson - QBs that won a SB because of the team around them. I'm perfectly ok with that too.
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Russel Wilson had a great defense to help him but he is way better than Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson. Also I think Vintage Schaub was way better than those two mentioned. Very few teams with a Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson type Qb would even go to play in a Super Bowl let alone win one. Our defense may be good enough to carry a sup par quarterback and offense to win a title and I am okay with that as well. However it is very rare for that to happen. I also would love us to win a title with a much more complete team. It would be more entertaining.
 
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steelbtexan said:
I gave you a list of QB's Ricky has had a chance to aquire and passed on since Schaub hurt his foot upthread. I sorted the QB's out by division. Let me just give you the NFC East QB's Ricky has passed on and you can look up the rest. Dak/Cousins/Wentz
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I also gave you my QB plan upthread.

You may disagree with my plan, but it's there.

Look it up
 
steelbtexan said:
I gave you a list of QB's Ricky has had a chance to aquire and passed on since Schaub hurt his foot upthread. I sorted the QB's out by division. Let me just give you the NFC East QB's Ricky has passed on and you can look up the rest. Dak/Cousins/Wentz
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steelbtexan said:
I also gave you my QB plan upthread.

You may disagree with my plan, but it's there.

Look it up
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Dak was drafted as QB3; 4th round 135th pick. Too soon to say we missed out on him. His situation was way different than ours. He was Romo's backup backup and was forced via injuries into a great situation. Hand the ball off to 4th overall pick from his same draft, let that massive OL maul people, and don't turn the ball over.

Cousins - 100% I agree that was miss. No argument there.


I looked up thread 13 pages and didn't see your plan. Maybe our disconnect is in the definition of realistic. We had the 21st pick in that draft. Philly gave up the following to move up to #2 overall:
Philadelphia's first-round, third-round, and fourth-round selections in the 2016 draft (8th, 77th, and 100th) as well as Philadelphia's first-round selection in the 2017 NFL Draft (12th) and second-round selection in the 2018 NFL Draft (TBD).

We flat out did not have the ammunition to move up to get him. Completely unrealistic to say we missed on Wentz.
 
thunderkyss said:
...Just to be clear, I'm asking "if"

I don't know the Texans think any of these guys are worth trading up to get them. I'm just saying "if" they did, why not trade up.
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If there is a guy that you have a strong feeling is "the guy" then yes you move up to get him. Of course. I don't think that can even be debated.

I just don't have that feeling about any of them. I'd move up for Trubisky but I'm not sure how high. At a certain point, the cost would be higher than my comfort level with the prospect.

I could stomach Watson or Mahomes at 25. It's not what I would do but I see why it would be done and I'd be on board. I would take Peterman before Mahomes though.

Say that we traded back from 25 to 32 somehow and Mahomes was still on the board. If we absolutely have to take a QB at that spot I'm taking Peterman.
 
Texian said:
Kimberley A. Martin‏Verified account@KMart_LI 19m19 minutes ago

BUT... Mayock said the worst thing you can do is reach for QBs because of need ... and he believes all of these QBs are reaches

GET READY TEXANS FANS....
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IMO, they are reaches for the top half of the first round, but not at the bottom of the round. Which is why I'm expecting a bit of sanity to prevail and these QB needy teams in the top ten to draft another need with their first pick, or try to trade down, and then see a lot of movement to trade back up into the bottom of the first to get their QB. My ideal situation is for two of the top three QB's to be available at 1-25 and for SF give us their 3 to move up. The Jets are said to be willing to trade their 3 to get back into the 1st.
 
PapaL said:
Dak was drafted as QB3; 4th round 135th pick. Too soon to say we missed out on him. His situation was way different than ours. He was Romo's backup backup and was forced via injuries into a great situation. Hand the ball off to 4th overall pick from his same draft, let that massive OL maul people, and don't turn the ball over.
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I agree. On a different note, I think several people were flat out wrong saying he wasn't ready to start, or that he's a project.

With the right team & the right coach, ready to start can mean a lot of things.
 
Number19 said:
IMO, they are reaches for the top half of the first round, but not at the bottom of the round. Which is why I'm expecting a bit of sanity to prevail and these QB needy teams in the top ten to draft another need with their first pick, or try to trade down, and then see a lot of movement to trade back up into the bottom of the first to get their QB. My ideal situation is for two of the top three QB's to be available at 1-25 and for SF give us their 3 to move up. The Jets are said to be willing to trade their 3 to get back into the 1st.
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Forget a 3. How about a 6 with next year's 2 since we already gave that away?

How about a trade with SF like this:

1.25
4.130

FOR

2.34
6.198
2018 2nd rounder


That still leaves us with:
2.34
2.57
3.89
4.142
5.169
6.198
7.243

PLUS what's very likely to be a high 2nd next year.
 
bah007 said:
Forget a 3. How about a 6 with next year's 2 since we already gave that away?

How about a trade with SF like this:

1.25
4.130

FOR

2.34
6.198
2018 2nd rounder


That still leaves us with:
2.34
2.57
3.89
4.142
5.169
6.198
7.243

PLUS what's very likely to be a high 2nd next year.
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I'm not sold on this scenario, especially with Smith having a pretty poor record drafting in the 2nd round.
 
Number19 said:
IMO, they are reaches for the top half of the first round, but not at the bottom of the round. Which is why I'm expecting a bit of sanity to prevail and these QB needy teams in the top ten to draft another need with their first pick, or try to trade down, and then see a lot of movement to trade back up into the bottom of the first to get their QB. My ideal situation is for two of the top three QB's to be available at 1-25 and for SF give us their 3 to move up. The Jets are said to be willing to trade their 3 to get back into the 1st.
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This is from my Mock:

PICK #25, The Texans are on the clock. WE HAVE A TRADE!

The Texans have traded their 1st RD, 25th pick and their 3rd RD, 89th pick to the San Francisco 49ers for their 2nd RD. 34th pick, 3rd RD. 66th pick and 4th RD. 109th pick. Points, Texans = 865; SF = 896

Texans Picks:
RD 2 (34)
RD 2 (57)
RD 3 (66)
RD 4 (109)
RD 4 (130)
RD 4 (142)
RD 5 (169)
RD 7 (243)
 
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bah007 said:
Forget a 3. How about a 6 with next year's 2 since we already gave that away?

How about a trade with SF like this:

1.25
4.130

FOR

2.34
6.198
2018 2nd rounder


That still leaves us with:
2.34
2.57
3.89
4.142
5.169
6.198
7.243

PLUS what's very likely to be a high 2nd next year.
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I had't considered trading for a pick next year. Makes sense. I was going to use that high 3 to take a CB in this deep class, after using our own 2 to take Peterman. So I'd have a RT, QB and a CB with our first three picks. I would use our own 3 to trade up in the second if necessary to get Peterman
 
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Number19 said:
I had't considered trading for a pick next year. Makes sense. I was going to use that high 3 to take a CB in this deep class, after using our own 2 to take Peterson. So I'd have a RT, QB and a CB with our first three picks. I would use our own 3 to trade up in the second if necessary to get Peterson.
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Who is Peterson?
 
thunderkyss said:
I agree. On a different note, I think several people were flat out wrong saying he wasn't ready to start, or that he's a project.

With the right team & the right coach, ready to start can mean a lot of things.
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He very well could be a legit QB. I'm just saying it's too early in the process to call him a miss. Lots of guys have good runs until there's film on them.
Dak is now 100% the starter. It's going to be interesting to see if he's a stud or a one hit wonder. He looked good, won't deny that at all.
 
PapaL said:
He very well could be a legit QB. I'm just saying it's too early in the process to call him a miss. Lots of guys have good runs until there's film on them.
Dak is now 100% the starter. It's going to be interesting to see if he's a stud or a one hit wonder. He looked good, won't deny that at all.
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Sophomore year as a starter to me is the interesting one because now teams have film on you outside of college and have had a year to game plan for you.

Not saying they won't be good but I don't think either of Dallas's rookies will have a year like last one.
 
It's walterfootball so heed caution:

Charlie Campbell @DraftCampbell
I'm hearing it is extremely likely the #Texans trade up for a quarterback. http://www.walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill …

1:04 PM - 26 Apr 2017

Staying in the AFC South, after speaking with sources, I think it is extremely likely that that Texans will move up to get either Texas Tech quarterback Pat Mahomes II or Clemson quarterback Deshaun Watson. I think the slight preference between the two is Mahomes, but both quarterbacks have made a good impression around the league. The key will be if one or both getting past the Saints at pick 11, Browns at 12, and Cardinals at 13. If they do, I think Houston will explore a move up to get one of them. The Texans’ need at quarterback is so obvious around the league that teams picking at the top of the second round know they need to jump Houston to get one of those quarterbacks. I don’t think the Texans will give up their second-round pick. The third-rounder is probably less likely as well, but they do have two fourth-round selections, and they could look to move up 3-5 spots for one of those picks. Last year Houston moved up for Will Fuller and Nick Martin. The previous year they moved up for Bernardrick McKinney and Jaelen Strong, so the track record of being aggressive is clear.

The Texans are the only team in the NFL that has all of their first-round picks since 2008 still on the team and occupying starting spots. General manager Rick Smith and the scouting staff have done a masterful job of hitting on first-round picks. Now they have the challenge of keeping that streak alive at the most important position on the field and will probably trade up for that quarterback.
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JR Texan said:
I know is a rumor but i can totally see something like this happening, I would take a closer look to the bucs at 19 and the lions at 21 Idk why I Just have a feeling
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When the worst thing you can go is reach for a QB and every QB in this draft is a reach and the Texans have a propensity for reaching....EXPECT IT!
 
PapaL said:
Dak was drafted as QB3; 4th round 135th pick. Too soon to say we missed out on him. His situation was way different than ours. He was Romo's backup backup and was forced via injuries into a great situation. Hand the ball off to 4th overall pick from his same draft, let that massive OL maul people, and don't turn the ball over.

Cousins - 100% I agree that was miss. No argument there.


I looked up thread 13 pages and didn't see your plan. Maybe our disconnect is in the definition of realistic. We had the 21st pick in that draft. Philly gave up the following to move up to #2 overall:
Philadelphia's first-round, third-round, and fourth-round selections in the 2016 draft (8th, 77th, and 100th) as well as Philadelphia's first-round selection in the 2017 NFL Draft (12th) and second-round selection in the 2018 NFL Draft (TBD).

We flat out did not have the ammunition to move up to get him. Completely unrealistic to say we missed on Wentz.
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If you believe that a guy is a franchise qb you give up 5 1st to get him. Because you are not winning anything without one.

I posted the qb 's in some thread and will post the ones Ricky could have drafted or traded for.
 
Texian said:
When the worst thing you can go is reach for a QB and every QB in this draft is a reach and the Texans have a propensity for reaching....EXPECT IT!
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How can you argue that the Texans haven't drafted a QB high in the draft since Carr and say that they have a propensity for reaching? The Texans have a lot of draft issues in the middle rounds, but reaching at a position of need isn't really one of them. I wouldn't be surprised with Mahomes or Watson at 1.25, if they are on the board or Webb/Peterman/Kizer/Kaaya later in the draft (rds 3-4). At 1.25, Mahomes or Watson isn't a reach, imo. In rounds 3 or 4, Peterman/Webb/Kizer/Kaaya aren't much of a reach.
 
steelbtexan said:
If you believe that a guy is a franchise qb you give up 5 1st to get him. Because you are not winning anything without one.

I posted the qb 's in some thread and will post the ones Ricky could have drafted or traded for.
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That's easy to say on a message board, but when your livelihood depends a whole lot on draft picks, you'd be an incredible fool to squander 5 years of 1st round draft picks on an unknown. If anything, You go all in on one draft, ala Mike Ditka, and only hurt the team for one season. If I were an owner, I'd fire a GM who even floated the idea of trading 5 1st round picks for 1.1.
Now, 5 1st round picks for P. Manning in 2002 or Brady in 2005? That's a whole different animal. You're getting proven, NFL winning talent. For a draftee? You're off your rocker.
 
steelbtexan said:
If you believe that a guy is a franchise qb you give up 5 1st to get him. Because you are not winning anything without one.

I posted the qb 's in some thread and will post the ones Ricky could have drafted or traded for.
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Then you end up like the colts, franchise QB that can't do anything because the rest of the team was sacrificed to get him. As important as the QB position is you still need people for him to throw to and an Oline to give him at least 3 seconds to throw the ball. Not to mention a defense to keep the other team from running away with the game.
 
Number19 said:
My understanding is that Prescott was not drafted to start but was third string. Injuries allowed him the opportunity. He also had a very good supporting cast. It worked out but this wasn't the plan going into the season.
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Exactamundo! If Romo doesn't get hurt (could barely type that with a straight face) AND Moore doesn't get hurt, there is no Dak mania.

As someone else has said though, the verdict on him is still out. A strong run game and a strong o-line can make you appear to be better than you are. Colin Kaepernick, for example. Looked pretty good the 1st couple of years but he was surrounded by a powerful run game and a bad ass defense. And even with that, his numbers declined every single season.

The Brad Johnson's and Trent Dilfer's of the world winning Super Bowls with ridiculous teams around them (defense in particular), are about as common as finding a Tom Brady in the 6th round. And those kind of teams are a lot harder to maintain because there is so much player movement. You have to have an above average to great QB any more.

Peyton, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Eli, Wilson and Flacco are the only QBs who have won a Super Bowl the last 14 years. All are above average to great. You've got to find that QB.

PapaL said:
We had the 21st pick in that draft. Philly gave up the following to move up to #2 overall:
Philadelphia's first-round, third-round, and fourth-round selections in the 2016 draft (8th, 77th, and 100th) as well as Philadelphia's first-round selection in the 2017 NFL Draft (12th) and second-round selection in the 2018 NFL Draft (TBD).

We flat out did not have the ammunition to move up to get him. Completely unrealistic to say we missed on Wentz.
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Completely agree. You can't say we missed out on Luck and RG3 or Ryan and Flacco, because there was never any realistic chance to get those guys.

And as far as our previous discussions, I'm all for building a team, but it's likely not going to matter if you don't have a QB that can play the damn position.

The Texans have a good team. They've won 9 games 3 years in a row because of it. Imagine if they had a QB.
 
thunderkyss said:
I agree. On a different note, I think several people were flat out wrong saying he wasn't ready to start, or that he's a project.

With the right team & the right coach, ready to start can mean a lot of things.
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Yeah....unfortunately that doesn't describe the Texans situation. If Dak was drafted by the Browns, how many more wins is he directly responsible for? My guess, they're still drafting 1 or 2 in this draft.
 
maverick512000 said:
Then you end up like the colts, franchise QB that can't do anything because the rest of the team was sacrificed to get him. As important as the QB position is you still need people for him to throw to and an Oline to give him at least 3 seconds to throw the ball. Not to mention a defense to keep the other team from running away with the game.
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Wrong

Look at the Texans Ol. A young interior of Manz/Martin and adding an ot in the 2nd like Motons. Then Trade a 2018 2nd and 3rd to get a young Let in 2018.. Say the young like McGlinchey and you may not even have to trade into the 1st rd to get him.

A ol of McGlinchey/Allen/Mancz/Moton should be solid for another 5yrs.

The defense is young so that shouldn't be a problem. Minus Cushing/Joseph.

Let me put on to you this way. Would you trade Fuller/2017/2018/2019. 1sts for Wentz. I would.

If the qb isn't there don't force it. In 2018 I would trade 3 1sts for Darnold/Rosen, or 2 1sts for Stidham who I think is going to be really good
 
steelbtexan said:
Wrong

Look at the Texans Ol. A young interior of Manz/Martin and adding an ot in the 2nd like Motons. Then Trade a 2018 2nd and 3rd to get a young Let in 2018.. Say the young like McGlinchey and you may not even have to trade into the 1st rd to get him.

A ol of McGlinchey/Allen/Mancz/Moton should be solid for another 5yrs.

The defense is young so that shouldn't be a problem. Minus Cushing/Joseph.

Let me put on to you this way. Would you trade Fuller/2017/2018/2019. 1sts for Wentz. I would.

If the qb isn't there don't force it. In 2018 I would trade 3 1sts for Darnold/Rosen, or 2 1sts for Stidham who I think is going to be really good
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25 hours and it begins and we'll find out; but, imo, Moton is off the board early in the second. He's the forth best OT and either the third or forth best OG.
 
DocBar said:
That's easy to say on a message board, but when your livelihood depends a whole lot on draft picks, you'd be an incredible fool to squander 5 years of 1st round draft picks on an unknown. If anything, You go all in on one draft, ala Mike Ditka, and only hurt the team for one season. If I were an owner, I'd fire a GM who even floated the idea of trading 5 1st round picks for 1.1.
Now, 5 1st round picks for P. Manning in 2002 or Brady in 2005? That's a whole different animal. You're getting proven, NFL winning talent. For a draftee? You're off your rocker.
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Darnold/Rosen are about as close to a sure thing at qb as there is in 2018. You would not have to pay 5 1sts to get them. Probably something like 2 1sts a 2nd and a future 2nd
 
I'm setting aside any emotions in this post and thinking very shrewdly. If Mahomes and Watson have somehow fallen to #25 then every GM in the NFL would probably expect the Texans to draft one of them. Enter the shrewd part...I might be able to create a feeding frenzy if the pick is shopped. This would be the scenario where teams could very well overpay to move up. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if the Texans could trade back to RD2, between picks 1-5, get a RD3-1 thru 5 included and possibly swap spots in RD5.

This could give the Texans 7 players between 33 and 149.

RD2-01-05 - 033-037
RD2-25-057
RD3-01-05 - 065-069
RD3-25-89
RD4-23-130
RD4-35-142
RD5-01-05 - 145-149
RD7-25-243

Saints could be another team with high interest in obtaining that 25 pick, especially if they didn't take a QB at 12. My asking price would be fairly hefty but could yield 5 players between 32 and 103.

RD1-32-032
RD2-25-057
RD3-12-076
RD3-25-089
RD3-39-103
RD5-25-169
RD7-25-243
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I'm setting aside any emotions in this post and thinking very shrewdly. If Mahomes and Watson have somehow fallen to #25 then every GM in the NFL would probably expect the Texans to draft one of them. Enter the shrewd part...I might be able to create a feeding frenzy if the pick is shopped. This would be the scenario where teams could very well overpay to move up. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if the Texans could trade back to RD2, between picks 1-5, get a RD3-1 thru 5 included and possibly swap spots in RD5.

This could give the Texans 7 players between 33 and 149.

RD2-01-05 - 033-037
RD2-25-057
RD3-01-05 - 065-069
RD3-25-89
RD4-23-130
RD4-35-142
RD5-01-05 - 145-149
RD7-25-243

Saints could be another team with high interest in obtaining that 25 pick, especially if they didn't take a QB at 12. My asking price would be fairly hefty but could yield 5 players between 32 and 103.

RD1-32-032
RD2-25-057
RD3-12-076
RD3-25-089
RD3-39-103
RD5-25-169
RD7-25-243
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No thanks. We are not a rebuild team and adding 5 rookies is not something that helps us. Our core is already solid and young. We need difference makers especially at qb.
 
amazing80 said:
No thanks. We are not a rebuild team and adding 5 rookies is not something that helps us. Our core is already solid and young. We need difference makers especially at qb.
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When does your difference maker at QB begin to give any returns to the Texans? Texans have major needs for contributors in 2017 at RT, RG, CB, SS, FS, OLB, DT and RB. This QB Class could yield a QB that has everyone cheering wildly in 2019 or cussing under their breath 2018. That's doing nothing for the team in 2017 and probably not in 2018. My feeling, O'Brien is very aware that he needs to win now and does not have the luxury of developing another young QB for 2-3 seasons.
 
amazing80 said:
No thanks. We are not a rebuild team and adding 5 rookies is not something that helps us. Our core is already solid and young. We need difference makers especially at qb.
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Beg to differ. RT and CB, immediate improvement. Peterman/QB in the aecond. We need depth at OG, LB, S and NT. That's seven priority picks.

A QB is not going to contribute in 2017 and may not in 2018, in O'Brian's system.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Yeah....unfortunately that doesn't describe the Texans situation. If Dak was drafted by the Browns, how many more wins is he directly responsible for? My guess, they're still drafting 1 or 2 in this draft.
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I think they would be around 10 to 15 in this draft. Nobody will ever really know so it is pointless to debate it.
 
Number19 said:
Beg to differ. RT and CB, immediate improvement. Peterman/QB in the aecond. We need depth at OG, LB, S and NT. That's seven priority picks.

A QB is not going to contribute in 2017 and may not in 2018, in O'Brian's system.
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Since when did drafting a first round qb mean not having any more picks for a RT or CB or depth? You guys act like drafting a top qb in round 1 somehow sacrifices our ability to add more quality players. You can have your cake and eat it too. You just have to do it right.
 
Number19 said:
25 hours and it begins and we'll find out; but, imo, Moton is off the board early in the second. He's the forth best OT and either the third or forth best OG.
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I was just using Moton as an example.

Sorta like the exaggeration of the cost of 5 first rd picks to draft a QB.

Point is if you think a guy is a franchise QB you can get him. You just have to have the balls to put your job on the line for your QB.
 
Speedy said:
And where has that gotten them again? Just another year of a great defense wasted away because you don't have a QB that can put points on the board.
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So force something that isn't there? Pick a QB just because? Cleveland has taken a QB 6 out of the last ten drafts. Look where it's gotten them. If you want a QB then prepare ahead of time. Build your assets and go get one. Do it the right way. Don't dick around and waste valuable first round picks on second and third round talent. That's STIPID!!!

And drafting a second round talent QB in the first isn't going to fix our scoring problem.
 
mussop said:
So force something that isn't there? Pick a QB just because? Cleveland has taken a QB 6 out of the last ten drafts. Look where it's gotten them. If you want a QB then prepare ahead of time. Build your assets and go get one. Do it the right way. Don't dick around and waste valuable first round picks on second and third round talent. That's STIPID!!!
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In a perfect world maybe. The Texans should have been in that mode 5 years ago. They're past that so there is no prepare ahead of time for them. They're in, and have been in, desperation mode. It's what happens when you don't prepare, which I wonder whose fault that is?

Cleveland has failed because it's hard, and they're Cleveland. But you don't even have a chance if you never draft one, like the Texans.

Pick a QB just because? No. Pick a QB because you've needed one for 4 freaking years.
 
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Speedy said:
In a perfect world maybe. The Texans should have been in that mode 5 years ago. They're past that so there is no prepare ahead of time for them. They're in, and have been in, desperation mode. It's what happens when you don't prepare, which I wonder whose fault that is?

Cleveland has failed because it's hard, and they're Cleveland. But you don't even have a chance if you never draft one, like the Texans.

Pick a QB just because? No. Pick a QB because you've needed one for 4 freaking years.
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I'm not saying don't draft one. Just don't draft one that isn't worthy of the pick. Don't take a second round talent with our first pick.
 
steelbtexan said:
Darnold/Rosen are about as close to a sure thing at qb as there is in 2018. You would not have to pay 5 1sts to get them. Probably something like 2 1sts a 2nd and a future 2nd
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Last yr it was like, wait till next yr. Remeber when people were saying wait for Barkley? Every yr, its wait on next yr for a qb.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
When does your difference maker at QB begin to give any returns to the Texans? Texans have major needs for contributors in 2017 at RT, RG, CB, SS, FS, OLB, DT and RB. This QB Class could yield a QB that has everyone cheering wildly in 2019 or cussing under their breath 2018. That's doing nothing for the team in 2017 and probably not in 2018. My feeling, O'Brien is very aware that he needs to win now and does not have the luxury of developing another young QB for 2-3 seasons.
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OB should feel any pressure or desperation honestly. McNair is trying to mold himself like the Rooneys vs Haslem. Look at how long kubiak coached and was mediocre until he broke through. Btw, how quickly did flacco pay dividends?
 
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