Keep Texans Talk Google Ad Free!
Venmo Tip Jar | Paypal Tip Jar
Thanks for your support! 🍺😎👍

How about Tony Romo in Houston

badboy said:
Not a Jerry Jones fan but no it doesn't. Texans and Bronco fans may want it resolved but Jones is doing what he thinks is best for his pocketbook. He has nothing to lose by sitting pat at least until May 31st.
Click to expand...
Agreed pocketbook-wise, disagree future FA contracts-wise.

If FAs can't trust you to keep your word, they aren't as likely to pick you over someone else. It's part of the image issue that the Texans have with Rick Smith, going all the way back to Dunta and continuing today.
 
disaacks3 said:
Agreed pocketbook-wise, disagree future FA contracts-wise.

If FAs can't trust you to keep your word, they aren't as likely to pick you over someone else. It's part of the image issue that the Texans have with Rick Smith, going all the way back to Dunta and continuing today.
Click to expand...
Not sure that is correct for most. I think a FA signs for best deal (money, location, chance to win, etc. What happens after contract ends is business decision for both sides.
 
badboy said:
Not sure that is correct for most. I think a FA signs for best deal (money, location, chance to win, etc. What happens after contract ends is business decision for both sides.
Click to expand...
You don't think FAs care if management can't be taken at their word?
Alrighty then.
 
Remember all those jokes about Toro starting at QB for the Texans?

wiki said:
Toro is the official mascot of the NFL's Houston Texans. According to his official biography, he was "born" on April 21, 2001, making his Zodiac sign that of a Taurus. He visits many Houston Texans events, as he amuses different crowds with different antics. Toro has a program called the Toro Kids Club.
Click to expand...
wiki said:
Antonio Ramiro "Tony" Romo (born April 21, 1980) is an American football quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys of the National Football League (NFL).
Click to expand...

Coincidence?

I don't think so....
 
disaacks3 said:
You don't think FAs care if management can't be taken at their word?
Alrighty then.
Click to expand...
That is a bit more general than what we are talking about with Jerry Jones & Romo. Supposedly Jones said he would allow Romo to leave then decided he could possibly get a trade offer. This happens frequently in the NBA. Maybe Romo as player involved is upset but no I don't think FAs are much concerned about going to Dallas for good money and solid chance at Super Bowl.
 
badboy said:
I think that rubber band you are stretching is about to break...:thinking:
Click to expand...

I'm just bored by this incredibly dull offseason, I just hope something interesting happens at the QB position because I don't think I have the willpower to sit through another crapfest like the last years.

I don't really care about Romo, anything different from what we have now will do.

well, almost anything
 

Nicki Jhabvala‏Verified account@NickiJhabvala



John Elway said "the plan is to stay the course" with their 2 QBs, Trevor Siemian and Paxton Lynch:
C787q-BVYAAH0Tw.jpg
Click to expand...
Click to expand...

What else would you expect Elway to say at this point...........We have the same QB dang problem the Texans have had for years?
 
  • Like
Reactions: JB
If this drags on past the owner's meeting, I'd just as soon bring Cutler in with a small base salary & an incentive laden contract based heavily on him winning the starter's position. If he thinks he's that good, then let him compete for the job. I'm fine with Savage as the starter, but believe it would be better for the team to have an open competition with an experienced veteran in the mix. I'm really tired of the Romo saga. Hell, even Dallas is starting to sign free agents & we still haven't signed even one. Unless our master plan is to start accumulating comp picks, this off season is about as fun as our off seasons prior to last year. Lol
 
DX-TEX said:
Ian Rapoport‏Verified account@RapSheet 7m7 minutes ago
This #Cowboys situation with Tony Romo isn't ending any time soon. It could continue not only up to the draft, but past the draft. Buckle up

I REALLY wish Rick would just come out and say "We have moved on and wish Tony the best in his future endeavors."
Click to expand...
I'm buckled up and ready! A lot of mock drafts I've been glancing at lately have us drafting Mitch Trubisky, quarterback out of UNC with the 25th pick. But I would imagine we'd fill other needs in the first and second round if we can bring in Tony Romo prior to the draft.

Perhaps draft a quarterback in the third or fourth round (two picks). Ironically enough, the same mock has Deshaun Watson going 27 to the Chiefs a couple picks after we select Mitch Trubisky. I haven't followed the combine, pro days and all the hoopla surrounding these prospects, but wasn't Deshaun Watson getting it done all season long and he beat a stacked Alabama defense in the National Championship game? At one point many experts said he'd be a possible top pick.

I haven't warmed up to the entire Jay Cutler idea...
I'd prefer Tony Romo but we'll see what happens.
At least nobody has mentioned Kaepernick! LOL
Just three years ago he was viewed as a good young QB.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
I'm buckled up and ready! A lot of mock drafts I've been glancing at lately have us drafting Mitch Trubisky, quarterback out of UNC with the 25th pick...
Click to expand...

I can hear it now, "When will Houston learn, you can't make these franchise defining decisions based on a handful of starts."
 
Bulls on Parade said:
I'm buckled up and ready! A lot of mock drafts I've been glancing at lately have us drafting Mitch Trubisky, quarterback out of UNC with the 25th pick. But I would imagine we'd fill other needs in the first and second round if we can bring in Tony Romo prior to the draft.
Click to expand...

Trubisky will not be there at 25.
 
The more I think about it, the more us picking us Romo reminds me of Oakland taking Schaub when we were done with him.
 
Like I said, I really feel good about the two veteran QB's the Texans have. Savage did a good job for the Texans when he got his chance and Brandon did a good job with his limited chance a couple of years back. My plan would be for the Texans to stay the course and analyze the position at the end of 2017 season and decide if the QB position is a high priority situation in the 2018 draft. I'd move forward from there.

Me personally, I like both. Savage was a fourth rounder but he's been the only QB drafted by O"Brien, possibly for a reason and then Weeden was added and he's a former first rounder who looked pretty good when he got his shot. The bottom line is both of these guys have been in the system long enough to have mastered the playbook and spent enough time with the available offensive talent to have their timing down. What's been missing is a competition between the two to see who wants the QB1 position more....it'll be a great competition between them in the spring.

Savage should have started in 2016 but it was pushed back b/c McNair and RS thought Osweiler was going to expedite the success of the position. The loud boom you heard was the backfire of that idea. O'Brien has to start Savage this season or the team is absolutely showing that they've blundered again...not only with the pick itself but the 4 year development plan would be all for nothing. The blow back for this would be on O'Brien unfortunately.
 
After thinking long and hard on this, maybe we are better off letting OB roll with his hand picked QBs in Savage and Weeden. If it fails, we bring in a new coaching staff next year and draft a QB high in the draft. No reason to draft a high one now when we're not convinced our coach is going to be here long term.
 
amazing80 said:
After thinking long and hard on this, maybe we are better off letting OB roll with his hand picked QBs in Savage and Weeden. If it fails, we bring in a new coaching staff next year and draft a QB high in the draft. No reason to draft a high one now when we're not convinced our coach is going to be here long term.
Click to expand...

keep drafting high untill you get a franchise QB

QBs last much longer than linemen, which means by the time you found your QB, if the line is not perfect you can start investing in improving the line.

on the contrary, if you have the perfect line but don't have a QB you might end wasting the good line waiting for the QB.

also, a good QB can overcome an average line. a good OL cannot make your average QB look like a franchise QB
 
zshawn10 said:
Jane Slater‏ @SlaterNFL
Tony Romo has taken situation very personally in Dallas and has distanced himself from teammates and coach who were "Team Dak" per source.7:00 PM · Mar 27, 2017
Click to expand...

That's a real shame because Romo handled himself like a true professional last year and really helped Dallas avoid what could have been a huge PR hole. He completely stepped out of the way and let Dak take over his team and even endorsed the kid and now the team is holding him hostage not even a year later.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Like I said, I really feel good about the two veteran QB's the Texans have. Savage did a good job for the Texans when he got his chance and Brandon did a good job with his limited chance a couple of years back. My plan would be for the Texans to stay the course and analyze the position at the end of 2017 season and decide if the QB position is a high priority situation in the 2018 draft. I'd move forward from there.

Me personally, I like both. Savage was a fourth rounder but he's been the only QB drafted by O"Brien, possibly for a reason and then Weeden was added and he's a former first rounder who looked pretty good when he got his shot. The bottom line is both of these guys have been in the system long enough to have mastered the playbook and spent enough time with the available offensive talent to have their timing down. What's been missing is a competition between the two to see who wants the QB1 position more....it'll be a great competition between them in the spring.

Savage should have started in 2016 but it was pushed back b/c McNair and RS thought Osweiler was going to expedite the success of the position. The loud boom you heard was the backfire of that idea. O'Brien has to start Savage this season or the team is absolutely showing that they've blundered again...not only with the pick itself but the 4 year development plan would be all for nothing. The blow back for this would be on O'Brien unfortunately.
Click to expand...
For the first time, the other day I paid some attention to the 2018 QB class, in comparison to this year's. Just looking at a random 2017 big board, only one QB carried a first round grade - in the bottom half of the round. The early rating for next year's class had four QB's in the top 16.

We need a third QB, but I wouldn't mind if it was on the last day, or even an UDFA.
 
amazing80 said:
After thinking long and hard on this, maybe we are better off letting OB roll with his hand picked QBs in Savage and Weeden. If it fails, we bring in a new coaching staff next year and draft a QB high in the draft. No reason to draft a high one now when we're not convinced our coach is going to be here long term.
Click to expand...

McNair is already talking about extending OB next offseason. I think OB is under contract this year and next.

Texans owner: Bill O'Brien won't get extension during offseason
http://www.espn.com/blog/houston-te...ll-obrien-wont-get-extension-during-offseason

Houston Texans owner Bob McNair told reporters Monday that head coach Bill O'Brien will not get a contract extension this offseason.

"We'll talk to him about it at the end of this year," owner Bob McNair said Monday, according to the Houston Chronicle. "That's typically when we do that sort of thing.

"We'll sit down and see what he's (O'Brien) happy with and if he wants to be extended and see how we feel."

O'Brien is entering the fourth year of the five-year deal that he signed in 2014. There was speculation at the end of last season whether O'Brien would remain in Houston after the season, but after the Texans' first-round playoff victory over the Oakland Raiders, McNair said he was never going to fire O'Brien. After the team's loss to the New England Patriots in the next round, O'Brien said he would definitely be returning.

"I'll be back next season," O'Brien said in January. "I'll be the Texans' head coach. I'll be back next season. Like I said, I have a five-year contract. This is Year 3."

In three seasons, O'Brien has a 27-21 record and the Texans have won the AFC South in back-to-back seasons.
Click to expand...
 
amazing80 said:
After thinking long and hard on this, maybe we are better off letting OB roll with his hand picked QBs in Savage and Weeden. If it fails, we bring in a new coaching staff next year and draft a QB high in the draft. No reason to draft a high one now when we're not convinced our coach is going to be here long term.
Click to expand...

How do you define "fail"? O'b has won with Fitz, Hoyer, Mallett, Case, Yates, & Osweiler.
 
I may be in the minority but I don't feel good about Tom Savage at all. He's had enough time to prove his worth and win the starting job, but every time he can't stay healthy to show much of anything. The first few years when Savage had gotten hurt I was willing to overlook it. But he is constantly injured every season!!!! That one year he went on IR during the preseason. I've had enough false believe. We can't rely on Savage. He'll be out of the league in a few years (at a prime age) if he can't stay on the field.

And Tom Savage, along with Brandon Weeden, are only signed through the 2017 season. I don't envision either of them being here long term. I certainly wouldn't want to see the Texans "go out of their way" to re-sign Savage next off-season based on what he's done so far.

We're in a world of trouble right now at the quarterback position. Not only do we need to draft a quarterback in the early rounds next month, but we're desperate to sign Tony Romo (once released) or even Jay Cutler (Rick Smith has contacted his agent a couple times already).

Either way, I expect the Texans to have two new quarterbacks on their roster before the 2017 regular season starts.
 
thunderkyss said:
How do you define "fail"? O'b has won with Fitz, Hoyer, Mallett, Case, Yates, & Osweiler.
Click to expand...

I'd say OB as a "QB guru" has won with Fitz, Hoyer, plus maybe Yates

in the sense that all those QB had better performances with OB than with other coaches

I haven't really followed Keenum and Mallet after OB so I don't know how they fared with other coaches

But with Osweiler he definitely "lost" in the sense that he wasn't able to get the same results other coaches got out of Osweiler


now, there are a million reasons why this was the case, and it's not necessarily OB's fault.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
My plan would be for the Texans to stay the course and analyze the position at the end of 2017 season and decide if the QB position is a high priority situation in the 2018 draft. I'd move forward from there.
Click to expand...
We have a "win now" #1 ranked defense that is Super Bowl caliber if J.J. Watt returns to form in 2017. It could be the best trio of pass rushers the league has ever seen: Watt, Clowney and Mercilus may combine for 35+ sacks in 2017.

We have legitimate playmakers on offense that can make big plays. Our run game is solid and our O-Line, while not the best in pass protection, is top five in run blocking. We have a very small window, two or three years, that I feel we can win a Super Bowl.

We just played toe to toe with the defending Super Bowl champion New England Patriots at Foxborough in the divisional round without our best player! We trailed 17-13 at halftime and 24-16 early in the fourth quarter, despite Brock Osweiler playing poorly and throwing three interceptions.

Our defense actually had us in position to lead 13-10 at halftime in that game but our special teams fell apart and gave up a 99-yard kickoff return for a TD or whatever it was. We had Tom Brady looking frustrated and beat up for a good portion of the game. After one second quarter drive Brady was seen shaking his head and tossing his helmet on the sidelines, before he put the game away midway in the fourth quarter.

We don't have time to dance around the quarterback position anymore. We need to bring in a solid veteran like Tony Romo or Jay Cutler. And we need to draft a quarterback in the early rounds (1st, 2nd, 3rd, two 4ths we have in next month's draft).

And then I'd move forward from there!

I believe the Houston Texans can win a Super Bowl or two during the next three years. A big part of that is going to be what they can do at the quarterback position this off-season.
 
Sigma said:
I'd say OB as a "QB guru" has won with Fitz, Hoyer, plus maybe Yates

in the sense that all those QB had better performances with OB than with other coaches

I haven't really followed Keenum and Mallet after OB so I don't know how they fared with other coaches

But with Osweiler he definitely "lost" in the sense that he wasn't able to get the same results other coaches got out of Osweiler


now, there are a million reasons why this was the case, and it's not necessarily OB's fault.
Click to expand...

I was one of Keenum's biggest detractors but I will admit that man threw threw a pretty rainbow jumpball. When in doubt lob it up for your playmakers. Sadly he was usually in doubt. If only Brock had learned how to make that pass. Completing other passes would have been nice too.
 
The Texans are so close to making it to the Super Bowl, but it seems like they don't even know it. It's really frustrating!
 
disaacks3 said:
You don't think FAs care if management can't be taken at their word?
Alrighty then.
Click to expand...

Money talks. If the Cowboys stand pat and pay Romo this year after Jones promised a release it just lines Romo's pocketbook more. I doubt future FA's are going to balk at an owner/GM who is going to pay somebody after their replacement has taken over because of spurious reasons.
 
b0ng said:
Money talks. If the Cowboys stand pat and pay Romo this year after Jones promised a release it just lines Romo's pocketbook more. I doubt future FA's are going to balk at an owner/GM who is going to pay somebody after their replacement has taken over because of spurious reasons.
Click to expand...
Really? There's been more than a few guys who hated getting Franchised, no matter the pay. We had one here in Houston who hated it and stated he was promised it wouldn't happen.

It's not as if the Cowboys are a perennial contender (much like the Texans) who have folks take pay cuts to play for them.

If you're not a Green Bay, Seattle, Denver or New England right now, it'd behoove you to play nice.
 
disaacks3 said:
Really? There's been more than a few guys who hated getting Franchised, no matter the pay. We had one here in Houston who hated it and stated he was promised it wouldn't happen.

It's not as if the Cowboys are a perennial contender (much like the Texans) who have folks take pay cuts to play for them.

If you're not a Green Bay, Seattle, Denver or New England right now, it'd behoove you to play nice.
Click to expand...

Jonathan Joseph didn't seem to care too much that the Texans had franchised Dunta Robinson.

Really that only seems to affect the player being franchised whether he will re-sign with said teams, not FA's from other teams.
 
amazing80 said:
If we win in spite of crappy QB play, thats a fail. Exactly what has happened the past 3 seasons.
Click to expand...

And all because they failed on Osweiller, they're terrified of going out and getting anyone else unless Romo falls into their lap.

If this team doesn't get Romo or a significant upgrade at QB, OB is likely gone and a rebuild is on the way.
 
Jerry Jones: Tony Romo has options, we’ll know by training camp
March 28, 2017, 7:59 PM EDT


Cowboys owner Jerry Jones suggested today that it could be four months before Tony Romo's future is clear.

Asked today at the league meeting when he’ll know Romo’s status for the 2017 season, Jones said a decision would be made by training camp.

The option that was once seen as most likely was the Cowboys releasing Romo and letting him decide for himself what to do next. But it now seems that the Cowboys want to hold onto him, potentially to find a trading partner.

Jones also said he and Romo have spoken recently, that they’re doing great, and that Romo has “a lot of options.” That would seem to suggest that one option Romo is considering is retiring and moving on to a television job. That might be the option Jones likes best: Jones has always loved Romo and would probably rather see him retire a Cowboy.

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


I wouldn't be a bit surprised after having all this extra time to think, if Jerruh hasn't begun worrying about what would happen if his new prized QB possession gets injured..........and he doesn't have any real backup plan for a year he has such high hopes for.
 
I think O'Brien is going with Savage, his "selected project" for the 2017 season. I want to see this happen because it would appear to be far too foolish to sign a Romo or Cutler to come in and take this guys snaps away. This is the team's final opportunity (season) to find out what O'Brien's grooming created in regards to being a finished product. As far as him being "season-ending" injury prone...that's a bit subjective.

Year 1: Injured but kept on the 53 Man Roster. There was no way the Texans were going to risk exposing him by placing him on the PS. Must've been a reason for this move.

Year 2: Injured but put on IR. Everyone knew that he hadn't suffered a season-ending injury. He could've easily been back on the field by week 5-6. The IR option kept him off the 53 Man Roster which freed up a roster spot and allowed O'Brien to continue his development. O'Brien was obviously vested in Savage time wise and based on the comment he made when explaining how he/they tested Savage daily on his playbook knowledge. Again, the team must have found this to be the best route versus having him recover and try to stash him on the PS to continue his development. Even being injured, if the Texans tried to put Savage on the PS during the season, he would've been gone fairly quickly.

Year3: This is where the development train went off the tracks. I firmly believe O'Brien was ready roll Savage out as the starter for 2016. Like any young QB, he had to get under center and start taking snaps to finalize his development. Instead, McNair and RS go out and sign Osweiler without ever consulting O'Brien, hence the "never really had a chance to discuss it" statement b/c it was imperative to make the move immediately. Really!!! O'Brien was vested in his development QB and was blind-sided by having to turn his focus over to Osweiler to prepare him versus Savage to be the opening day starting QB. When O'Brien yanked Osweiler and inserted Savage...the necessary move was met with a "brave move" statement from McNair. Did this statement strike anyone else as showing a little resentment towards having their (McNair / RS) hand-picked QB benched? The injury (concussion) that derailed Savage's insertion as the starting QB was an absolute sham!!! If anyone was watching the game, the hit that created the "so-called" concussion was over the top of his left should...never even saw the helmet to helmet contact. Savage was brought to the sideline and when the Doc came over to start the concussion protocol, Savage went nuts and tossed his helmet to the ground. To make it look good, he was sent to the locker room for further evaluation. But, somehow he was cleared and sent back to the sideline. He didn't appear to be zig-zagging as he made his way back to the sideline, seems like he ran a pretty straight and authorative line right back to the sideline and was ready to go back in the game. He was so cleared, O'Brien inserted him back into the game...mostly to take the final snap but to also let Osweiler know, he'd be back on the bench at the start of the second half. There must've been some calls made by McNair and RS to get their man back on the field b/c poor TS had a complete relapse in the locker room. O'Brien just followed orders and Savage never talked about his "so-called" concussion. I don't view O'Brien as a HC who would almost be forced to come to blows with one of his players...unless said player, Osweiler, is talking smack to O'Brien b/c he's got an overly-comfortable relationship with McNair and Smith. This whole side-show pushed Savage's development back a year.

Any young QB drafted and expected to be a starting QB is either taking their learning snaps from Day 1, by mid-year one, start of year two, by mid-year two or competing for the starting job in year three. Savage has had one and half games as the starting QB...hardly enough time to qualify as a failure or success. Bortles has had 3 down seasons and he'll still be the starter come 2017. Carr got there last year but his OL got a lot better in year 3. By the way, I was not a fan of Savage's when the Texans drafted him b/c I was freaking out over the fact they skipped over Carr in the draft when they had him right there for the picking. Over the past 3 seasons, I have slowly become a fan of Savage and want to see what O'Brien has seen in him for 3 seasons before I throw him to another NFL Fanchise.
 
Last edited:
What you'll likely see is signing Romo, a late round QB drafted, and then an injury to Romo mid-season. You'll get Savage, but he's probably not the guy. Given that he's OB's guy, the only he's been able to draft, OB will be fired. Then we'll start this whole thing over with a new HC with the same results.
 
TexansSeminole said:
What you'll likely see is signing Romo, a late round QB drafted, and then an injury to Romo mid-season. You'll get Savage, but he's probably not the guy. Given that he's OB's guy, the only he's been able to draft, OB will be fired. Then we'll start this whole thing over with a new HC with the same results.
Click to expand...


If I was the next HC .... I'd demand that I be able to draft or otherwise acquire my choice of quarterbacks .... (within reason in terms of assets to trade or move up for a player). Otherwise I don't want the job.
I would not accept putting it off cause we've seen how that's worked out , they keep putting it off.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Instead, McNair and RS go out and sign Osweiler without ever consulting O'Brien, hence the "never really had a chance to discuss it" statement b/c it was imperative to make the move immediately.
Click to expand...

I think you read that wrong. O'b tells the story as him being the one who identified Osweiler as the guy, then convinced Smith, then convinced McNair.

When McNair is talkingabout not talking to Osweiler he's talking about the rule that prevents teams from contacting players of other teams before FA.

The Texans felt like they had to win a bidding war instead of waiting to see if Brock would have hit FA.
 
thunderkyss said:
When McNair is talkingabout not talking to Osweiler he's talking about the rule that prevents teams from contacting players of other teams before FA.
Click to expand...

this is what I don't get, if you aren't allowed to talk to those guys how could we make an offer?

does the rule allow to offer a contract but not to interview? that seems like a very silly rule
 
Sigma said:
this is what I don't get, if you aren't allowed to talk to those guys how could we make an offer?

does the rule allow to offer a contract but not to interview? that seems like a very silly rule
Click to expand...

Maybe you can talk to their agent but not the player themselves? That's just what I assumed was the deal.
 
Sigma said:
and what would be the reasoning behind that?
Click to expand...

Just using some deductive reasoning here. We obviously signed him. We never spoke to him before we signed him. I'd guess it has to do with how they, NFL, runs their business aka you're not actually a FA until Day X. Just my best guesses.
 
PapaL said:
Just using some deductive reasoning here. We obviously signed him. We never spoke to him before we signed him. I'd guess it has to do with how they, NFL, runs their business aka you're not actually a FA until Day X. Just my best guesses.
Click to expand...

no, I meant, "the reasoning behind such a rule"
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top