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Week 2...The Test...Kansas City Chiefs!!!

sandman said:
I'm not arguing that he isn't a good TE. I'm just saying that there was only twice last season he went over 100 yards, and both were against the Texans. There is a reason for that, and it had a lot more to do with the Texans than it does with Kelce. It's not disrespectful to him to say that he plays a position that could exploit the glaring weakness in the Texans defense, and Andy Reid was smart enough to do just that in his play calling.
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Not to say that Kelce isn't a good TE, but I feel that he has been over promoted by many. He is solid as a route runner and receiver, but he has no explosion near the line. He gains speed as he gets going. The main problem is that he is difficult to bring down once he catches the ball. In the past against the Texans, he would go across the middle.....short or mid depth.........and we had no one that could cover the slot or the middle of the field worth beans. To bring down Kelce, you need to have solid tacklers that take solid angles, or you see what you saw last year. Unfortunately, week 1 exposed enough poor tackling angles and tackling deficiencies in general to raise concern as to if Kelce can be effectively contained. I hope that Crennel has successfully addressed this, or we may be in for a long disappointing afternoon.
 
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I read in a Chiefs write up that last week the Chargers used 3 wides 67 percent of the time while the Chiefs used a two-man interior front with four linebackers 42 percent of the time.
 
I'm not as confident as most here. The way I lood at it, we had a hard time against Chicago who is considered a bottom dweller by most experts. If we fall behind early like we did against Chicago we're going to be in trouble.

This game truly is a test and should tell us exactly who we are.
 
mussop said:
I'm not as confident as most here. The way I lood at it, we had a hard time against Chicago who is considered a bottom dweller by most experts. If we fall behind early like we did against Chicago we're going to be in trouble.

This game truly is a test and should tell us exactly who we are.
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But much less than last year. We're catching the Chiefs at exactly the right time. The Chiefs are hurting significantly on many fronts (from injuries and other reasons). Last week, their front 7 could hardly garner any rush. They managed only 1 sack. And their secondary not known this year for great performers couldn't cover the receivers while they were given enough time to turn the next page on a calendar. If we come out of this game with a win (and I think we can), it isn't like we will have beaten the same Chiefs we faced last season.
 
The Houston Texans Should Thank The Kansas City Chiefs For The Wildcard Beatdown


What looked like one of the darkest moments in Houston Texans franchise history, it is now looking like the wake up call they needed.

Most will look back at the Houston Texans season-ending, 2015 wild card game as a complete failure on all levels, with the Kansas City Chiefs rolling to a 30-0 win over the host team, Texans. The end of that game was the end for many Texans, especially on the offensive side of the ball, as well as some coaches on the sideline. That loss helped the Texans look in the mirror and reevaluate a plan that Bill O’Brien and Rick Smith had put in plan nearly two years earlier.

How important was that game?

The Texans were in the hole early after Knile Davis returned the opening kickoff 106 yards for a touchdown which flipped the electric atmosphere on its ear in a heartbeat. Most importantly on that kickoff, there were personnel on the field who were new and helped create a massive lane for Davis and demonstrated a poor plan overall by the Texans given the limited leg strength of Nick Novak. The Texans special teams units were playing with fire all season and then-coordinator Bob Ligashesky was responsible for one of the worst units in the NFL.

This was the game that was the final straw which ended up getting Ligashesky relived of his duties after the season and brought in the era of Larry Izzo to run the special teams unit. It is clear that the unit is much more fundamentally sound already.

Also, during that wildcard game, the Texans wide receivers were having a hard time lining up and getting set before plays. The wide receiver group offered zero behind DeAndre Hopkins. Free agents Nate Washington and Cecil Shorts never grasped the offense, while Jaelen Strong took time to get even on the field. The group as a whole under Stan Hixon was not growing. More importantly, they were not taking the step necessary over the course of 2015 to be ready for the biggest game of the season.

Hixon was soon released, along with Ligashesky, and the Texans brought in Sean Ryan from the New York Giants. Ryan has shown that he can develop wide receivers in a hurry and he currently has the task of coaching one of the youngest wide receiver groups in the NFL. Throughout camp and the preseason, the group looks well-prepared for their roles on the field.

The offense took the biggest number of changes because of the Chiefs game, mainly starting with the quarterback position and the overall makeup of the offensive personnel. With no real big play ability or home run hitters to flip the field quickly, the Texans went into the off season with one goal in mind: adding speed to the offense. The game that Brian Hoyer put in was one of the worst performances in modern football. Hoyer turned the ball over five times and completed only 44% of his passes. Coming out of that game, the Texans did not like the lack of nasty the offensive line put in. The line that was not afraid of doing what the offensive line was supposed to do, finish blocks and setting the tone in the running game, was nowhere to be found. There were questions of the toughness on the interor of the offensive line, especially with Brandon Brooks and the expectations that were on him to be a mauler on the interior of the offensive line.

At the conclusion of the NFL Draft, Bill O'Brien was pretty clear on the vision of the Texans coming out of the off-season.

You know, one of the things we did, and you’ve heard me say this a bunch, is right after the season we sat down and we evaluated our team. Rick (Smith) and I sat down and that takes a lot of time, then based on that that’s how you start the strategy of the free agency period and the draft period.” said Bill O’Brien shorty at the conclusion of the NFL Draft. “I think one of the things we identified while we were evaluating our team was how can we become a little faster, a little bit more athletic in certain areas? I think that’s a goal that we had, but that wasn’t the only goal.”

General Manager Rick Smith also said at the time of the draft, it came down to taking a closer look at the personnel on the team.

“Well I think a lot of it has to do with what Bill (O’Brien) articulated with respect to how we looked at our football team and some of the goals that we had going into the offseason." said Smith and those goals were attained in a short period of time.
With that said, the final whistle was the best thing to happen for the Texans. The end of that game forced the team to usher in a new look offense. The Texans found a tone setter on the market in Jeff Allen, who has already shown he is not afraid to mix it up blocking and that mentality is bringing out a new side of Xavier Su'a-Filo and Derek Newton, who showed in week one that they can be mean when they want to be. The Texans wanted speed, so in the draft they took Will Fuller V, Braxton Miller and Tyler Ervin. That trio has upped the play speed of the offense and special teams units in a hurry. The addition of Fuller and Miller have helped take some attention away from DeAndre Hopkins, with the rookies' abilities to both stretch and cause issues in the middle of the field. Lamar Miller has already given the Texans - and the league - a front and center look on what happens if you cannot stop him with the football, he will eat up yards with intensity. Inserted in the offense as the primary back, Miller is a true speed threat on the offense which the team has rarely had.

Smith on Lamar Miller when he was signed. "As it relates to Lamar, the one thing you can’t coach is speed, right, so the guy again, and I don’t want to just say that that’s all he offers and all he brings to the table."

Smith on Jeff Allen, "I think you will like the way Mr. (Jeff) Allen plays interior offensive line. He’s a gritty, nasty, tough guy and I think that element will be good for our football team."

The biggest change came when the Texans bought into Brock Osweiler and were not afraid to put the money up to land the unproven but potential laden quarterback, prying him away from the Denver Broncos. Osweiler showed when he walked into the building that he was committed to building a winner and he has taken every day since that point to help make the Texans a better team. A workout in Arizona with teammates, 12-hour workdays during training camp and into the season are examples of his commitment. Osweiler’s first game against the Chicago Bears showed a glimpse of what this offense has the potential to be.

No matter how bad that game was last season for the Texans, most should be thanking the Chiefs for that beatdown. That game changed many things in Houston and helped usher in a new era of football for the Texans under Bill O’Brien.

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CloakNNNdagger said:
The Houston Texans Should Thank The Kansas City Chiefs For The Wildcard Beatdown


What looked like one of the darkest moments in Houston Texans franchise history, it is now looking like the wake up call they needed.

Most will look back at the Houston Texans season-ending, 2015 wild card game as a complete failure on all levels, with the Kansas City Chiefs rolling to a 30-0 win over the host team, Texans. The end of that game was the end for many Texans, especially on the offensive side of the ball, as well as some coaches on the sideline. That loss helped the Texans look in the mirror and reevaluate a plan that Bill O’Brien and Rick Smith had put in plan nearly two years earlier.

How important was that game?

The Texans were in the hole early after Knile Davis returned the opening kickoff 106 yards for a touchdown which flipped the electric atmosphere on its ear in a heartbeat. Most importantly on that kickoff, there were personnel on the field who were new and helped create a massive lane for Davis and demonstrated a poor plan overall by the Texans given the limited leg strength of Nick Novak. The Texans special teams units were playing with fire all season and then-coordinator Bob Ligashesky was responsible for one of the worst units in the NFL.

This was the game that was the final straw which ended up getting Ligashesky relived of his duties after the season and brought in the era of Larry Izzo to run the special teams unit. It is clear that the unit is much more fundamentally sound already.

Also, during that wildcard game, the Texans wide receivers were having a hard time lining up and getting set before plays. The wide receiver group offered zero behind DeAndre Hopkins. Free agents Nate Washington and Cecil Shorts never grasped the offense, while Jaelen Strong took time to get even on the field. The group as a whole under Stan Hixon was not growing. More importantly, they were not taking the step necessary over the course of 2015 to be ready for the biggest game of the season.

Hixon was soon released, along with Ligashesky, and the Texans brought in Sean Ryan from the New York Giants. Ryan has shown that he can develop wide receivers in a hurry and he currently has the task of coaching one of the youngest wide receiver groups in the NFL. Throughout camp and the preseason, the group looks well-prepared for their roles on the field.

The offense took the biggest number of changes because of the Chiefs game, mainly starting with the quarterback position and the overall makeup of the offensive personnel. With no real big play ability or home run hitters to flip the field quickly, the Texans went into the off season with one goal in mind: adding speed to the offense. The game that Brian Hoyer put in was one of the worst performances in modern football. Hoyer turned the ball over five times and completed only 44% of his passes. Coming out of that game, the Texans did not like the lack of nasty the offensive line put in. The line that was not afraid of doing what the offensive line was supposed to do, finish blocks and setting the tone in the running game, was nowhere to be found. There were questions of the toughness on the interor of the offensive line, especially with Brandon Brooks and the expectations that were on him to be a mauler on the interior of the offensive line.

At the conclusion of the NFL Draft, Bill O'Brien was pretty clear on the vision of the Texans coming out of the off-season.

You know, one of the things we did, and you’ve heard me say this a bunch, is right after the season we sat down and we evaluated our team. Rick (Smith) and I sat down and that takes a lot of time, then based on that that’s how you start the strategy of the free agency period and the draft period.” said Bill O’Brien shorty at the conclusion of the NFL Draft. “I think one of the things we identified while we were evaluating our team was how can we become a little faster, a little bit more athletic in certain areas? I think that’s a goal that we had, but that wasn’t the only goal.”

General Manager Rick Smith also said at the time of the draft, it came down to taking a closer look at the personnel on the team.

“Well I think a lot of it has to do with what Bill (O’Brien) articulated with respect to how we looked at our football team and some of the goals that we had going into the offseason." said Smith and those goals were attained in a short period of time.
With that said, the final whistle was the best thing to happen for the Texans. The end of that game forced the team to usher in a new look offense. The Texans found a tone setter on the market in Jeff Allen, who has already shown he is not afraid to mix it up blocking and that mentality is bringing out a new side of Xavier Su'a-Filo and Derek Newton, who showed in week one that they can be mean when they want to be. The Texans wanted speed, so in the draft they took Will Fuller V, Braxton Miller and Tyler Ervin. That trio has upped the play speed of the offense and special teams units in a hurry. The addition of Fuller and Miller have helped take some attention away from DeAndre Hopkins, with the rookies' abilities to both stretch and cause issues in the middle of the field. Lamar Miller has already given the Texans - and the league - a front and center look on what happens if you cannot stop him with the football, he will eat up yards with intensity. Inserted in the offense as the primary back, Miller is a true speed threat on the offense which the team has rarely had.

Smith on Lamar Miller when he was signed. "As it relates to Lamar, the one thing you can’t coach is speed, right, so the guy again, and I don’t want to just say that that’s all he offers and all he brings to the table."

Smith on Jeff Allen, "I think you will like the way Mr. (Jeff) Allen plays interior offensive line. He’s a gritty, nasty, tough guy and I think that element will be good for our football team."

The biggest change came when the Texans bought into Brock Osweiler and were not afraid to put the money up to land the unproven but potential laden quarterback, prying him away from the Denver Broncos. Osweiler showed when he walked into the building that he was committed to building a winner and he has taken every day since that point to help make the Texans a better team. A workout in Arizona with teammates, 12-hour workdays during training camp and into the season are examples of his commitment. Osweiler’s first game against the Chicago Bears showed a glimpse of what this offense has the potential to be.

No matter how bad that game was last season for the Texans, most should be thanking the Chiefs for that beatdown. That game changed many things in Houston and helped usher in a new era of football for the Texans under Bill O’Brien.

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We can also thank Atlanta and Miami.
 
I haven't read this complete thread, so I don't know if this has been commented on. But the Chron this morning mentioned the Chief's Pro Bowl NT Dontari Poe, 6-3, 346 lbs and has run the 40 in 4.98 seconds. He's also strong, bench pressing 225 lbs 44 times. He's going to be a handful for Mancz and a good test. Will likely need help from one of our OG's.
 
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Chiefs defensive snap-count observations: Justin March-Lillard gets work in passing situations

The Chiefs and NFL by beat writer Terez Paylor


Here are some observations based on the offensive snap-count data and personnel groupings from the Chiefs’ 33-27 victory over San Diego in the season opener on Sunday. Snap-count numbers are provided by the NFL, while personnel groupings are charted by The [Kansas City] Star.

DEFENSIVE LINEMEN
Dontari Poe – 55 of 73 (75 percent)

Allen Bailey – 52 (71 percent)

Jaye Howard – 48 (66 percent)

Chris Jones – 12 (16 percent)

Nick Williams – 8 (11 percent)

Analysis: Really nice rotation going up front. Far cry from the days where Poe was playing nearly 90 percent of the snaps. By the way, the NFL sure has changed. On Sunday, the Chiefs were in their base 3-4 defense only 23 percent of the time. That means the Chiefs were in a nickel/dime-oriented defense roughly three-fourths of the time, though they did mix in three plays where they went with three interior linemen and three linebackers with five defensive backs. The Chiefs also went with a 4-4 look (with Jones as the fourth lineman) on three plays against the Chargers’ heavy “23” personnel.

OUTSIDE LINEBACKERS
Dee Ford – 54 (74 percent)

Frank Zombo – 50 (68 percent)

Tamba Hali – 42 (58 percent)

Analysis: Another timeshare. Hali is probably going to serve as a pinch-hitter as he works himself back into the mix after missing the entirety of training camp in an effort to save his knees. Rookie Dadi Nicolas did not log any defensive snaps but he did play five snaps on special teams on place-kicking blocks. Chiefs coach Andy Reid praised Dee Ford’s play Monday while Frank Zombo has consistently earned praise from his teammates throughout the preseason for his run defense (it was good again Sunday) but the Chiefs added Dezman Moses back to the mix on Wednesday to give this group additional depth.

INSIDE LINEBACKERS
Derrick Johnson – 73 (100 percent)

Justin March-Lillard – 51 (70 percent)

Analysis: March-Lillard saw time in plenty of passing situations/nickel packages, as the Chargers used “11” personnel (three-wide) 67 percent of the time and the Chiefs, in turn, used a two-man interior front with four linebackers 42 percent of the time. However, March-Lillard was replaced in certain passing situations by safety Daniel Sorensen, who looks like Bob Sutton’s new safety/dime linebacker when the Chiefs want another defensive back on the field. D.J. Alexander did not play on defense but is a core special-teams player (29 snaps). New linebacker Sam Barrington did not play on defense but he logged 10 special-teams snaps.

CORNERBACKS
Marcus Peters – 72 (99 percent)

Steven Nelson – 70 (96 percent)

Phillip Gaines – 51 (70 percent)

D.J. White – 1 (1 percent)

Analysis: Nelson was the starter at right cornerback in the base 3-4 but shifted inside to cover the slot in nickel, when Gaines entered to play outside. White logged one defensive snap in place of Peters (who needed a moment to cool off after jawing with several Chargers) and 17 special-teams snaps. The fact Nelson logged so many special-teams snaps (24) is rare and really interesting for a starter. He took it in stride, however. “I was in shape for it,” Nelson said. “They expect me to do the task, so I’ve got to do the task. I take care of my body. I can do it. Last year I didn’t play, so I can’t complain now.”

SAFETIES
Eric Berry – 73 (100 percent)

Ron Parker – 72 (92 percent)

Daniel Sorensen – 18 (25 percent)

Analysis: Sorensen earned a significant portion of his playing time as a linebacker in the Chiefs’ dime formations (25 percent). The Chiefs went heavy on this personnel grouping late in the fourth quarter, when they guessed (correctly) that Chargers would be throwing out of their “11” personnel (three-wide) sets. Sorensen, who saw the field on the defense’s final seven snaps, is also a core special-teams player (29 snaps), along with rookie safety Eric Murray, who did not play on defense but also logged 29 special-teams snaps.
 
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I haven't read this complete thread, so I don't know if this has been commented on. But the Chron this morning mentioned the Chief's Pro Bowl NT Dontari Poe, 6-3, 346 lbs and has run the 40 in 4.98 seconds. He's also strong, bench pressing 225 lbs 44 times. He's going to be a handful for Mancz and a good test. Will likely need help from one of our OG's.
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Poe is overrated and not focused. Chiefs probably gonna let him walk.
 
Texans v. Chiefs History
Rk Date....... Day .......Team ..........Opp ...........Tm Opp
1 Sep 21, 2003 Sun L Houston Texans Kansas City Chiefs.. 14 42 boxscore
2 Sep 26, 2004 Sun W Houston Texans @ Kansas City Chiefs 24 21 boxscore
3 Nov 20, 2005 Sun L Houston Texans Kansas City Chiefs.. 17 45 boxscore
4 Sep 09, 2007 Sun W Houston Texans Kansas City Chiefs.. 20 03 boxscore
5 Oct 17, 2010 Sun W Houston Texans Kansas City Chiefs.. 35 31 boxscore
6 Oct 20, 2013 Sun L Houston Texans @ Kansas City Chiefs 16 17 boxscore
7 Sep 13, 2015 Sun L Houston Texans Kansas City Chiefs.. 20 27 boxscore
8 Jan 09, 2016 Sat L Houston Texans Kansas City Chiefs... 0 30 boxscore

Time to end this recent losing streak against these guys

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Prediction from the NY Times
Chiefs (1-0) at Texans (1-0)
1 p.m. on CBS Line: Texans by 2 ½

The Chiefs rallied to win last week by airing the ball out, but would likely prefer to get back to their strengths of playing stifling defense and running their opponent into submission. That will be hard this week because J.J. Watt found his rhythm in the second half of a Week 1 win over Chicago, and the relentless pressure that he and Houston’s stellar defensive front provides should give the Texans the edge.
Pick: Texans
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MissouriTexan10 said:
Peters attitude is going to be a issue for KC this year
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Chiefs rewatch: Marcus Peters’ emotions, Alex Smith’s risks and problems up the gut
Star sports columnist Sam Mellinger watched a replay of the Kansas City Chiefs 33-27 come-from-behind overtime victory against San Diego on Sunday. He even rewatched the first 2 1/2 quarters, which had KC trailing 24-3, so please at least read some of this.

By Sam Mellinger


Cornerback Marcus Peters is an emotional fellow, for better and worse, and most of his time with the Chiefs it’s been better.

He is consumed by football in the purest sense, obsessed with the game both physically and mentally, the kind of commitment to the cause that made the Chiefs accept what others viewed as character flaws in the draft.

You cannot separate the good and the bad. It is part of the same package. Whatever it’s worth, over the past 14 months or so, I’ve come to enjoy even the bad parts. If it’s a character flaw, it’s an admirable one: he loves football so much that it sometimes gets in the way.

I am talking specifically about football here. Peters made national news on Sunday by raising his right fist during the national anthem, and if you haven’t already, you should read Vahe’s excellent column (he even talked to John Carlos).

But, again, these words from me are about football.

Knowing Marcus and where he comes from a little — a little — I think there’s a connection between raising the fist and an uneven performance on the field. Peters was penalized for a facemask infraction during the Chiefs’ 33-27 overtime win over the Chargers on Sunday. He also was called for pass interference in the end zone, and should’ve been penalized for a second facemask violation.

He got beat by San Diego’s Keenan Allen at the line of scrimmage, repeatedly and in different ways — sometimes Allen broke press coverage by pushing Peters back, and sometimes he simply beat him with quick feet.

It wasn’t all bad, of course. Peters had a nice deflection in the second half, and played better in coverage after Allen’s injury. But by the standards Peters has set for himself, it was a pretty bad game.

It reminded me of the game in Oakland last year. If there’s anything Peters loves as much as football, it’s Oakland, his hometown, and he was as fired up for that game as any human has ever been for a football game. In the beginning, it was too much, and he was flagged and gave up some plays, missed some tackles, even threw up on the sideline.

By the end, though, he helped seal the Chiefs’ win with a 58-yard interception return —and then he gave the ball to his mother. It was the full Marcus Peters Experience.

We never saw that big play from Peters on Sunday, but he did get better as the game went on (Allen’s injury undoubtedly helped). I’m curious to see his Pro Football Focus grade, and how many catches he gave up. But there is little doubt his early problems were rooted in what had to be one of the most emotional days he’s had in an emotional football life.

At one point, after the no-call on the facemask, Peters got away with a shove of Philip Rivers. If that gets called, the story of Peters’ day, and the game, may have been much different.

Peters will have to be better as the season goes along. His production should be one of the Chiefs’ bankable strengths, something they can depend on. I’m expecting that to come as his emotions settle.

Alex Smith made three, maybe four throws you have rarely seen him make, if ever. The best may have been a back-shoulder pass to Jeremy Maclin, which went for a touchdown against terrific coverage by All-Pro cornerback Jason Verrett. There was another fantastic and gutsy pass to Maclin in the fourth quarter — it was the play on which he got hurt — in which Smith dropped the ball perfectly between three Chargers defenders in zone coverage, and what was essentially a jump ball to Travis Kelce down the left sideline on the overtime drive.

Some of this was simply what the moment demanded. The Chiefs were down and had to take chances. But there were also some more subtle decisions — a few trust throws to Chris Conley, for instance — that Smith hasn’t done much of in the past.

It’ll be interesting to see if this is an evolution of a guy in the fourth year of a system and surrounded by more talent than he’s ever had, or the mere creation of a desperate moment.

▪ Smith also missed a few throws he needed to hit, in particular going wide on Conley downfield toward the end of the first half. Would’ve set up a field goal. But, still. A great game by the quarterback.

▪ Tamba Hali is clearly less than 100 percent. There were times when he was engaged with the blocker that you could see his strong and fast hands at work, but he just didn’t have enough explosion in those legs.

▪ The play by the offensive line was uneven. Smith faced a lot of pressure early, but at least some of that is on the quarterback. He had to get the ball out quicker on several plays. Parker Ehinger had a few rough moments, by my eye both physical and schematic. At least once he whiffed on a stunt, and there was another time or three when he simply got beat by the man in front of him.

▪ To be fair, Ehinger was in on picking up a stunt on a fourth-and-2 in the second half, the first down converted on a pass to Charcandrick West.

▪ Also, Spencer Ware’s touchdown run was essentially made possible by good push from the right side of the line.

▪ Speaking of Ware, he was even better when I watched him the second time. Even when the Chiefs were terrible, Ware was playing well, and playing hard. He’s an enormous problem for defenses, so good out of the backfield but also dangerous on handoffs. He made tacklers miss, and he also bulled them over. This is probably stupid to say out loud, but if Jamaal Charles doesn’t fully recover — 100 percent, not 97 — there is a case for Ware to be the featured back.

▪ Keenan Allen’s injury really changed a lot, for both teams. He was open, basically every snap. The Chiefs had nothing for him. That injury changed so much.

▪ I did like how quickly Dontari Poe, Jaye Howard and others had Peters’ back toward the end of that skirmish. This is a tight team.

▪ Dee Ford! That was a genuinely good play he made in the fourth quarter, essentially sending the game to overtime in a moment the Chargers had a real chance to set up a walk-off field goal. He got into right tackle Joe Barksdale, disengaged the block by pushing the bigger man back on his heels, and then chased down the quarterback. Standing ovation.

▪ Oh, one more terrific throw by Smith: in the overtime drive, rolling out to his right, buying enough time to let Ware beat the linebacker by turning his shoulders. The ball dropped right into Ware’s hands for a big gain.

▪ Also on that drive — the very next play after the rollout pass, actually — the Chiefs ran what was basically the exact same play as the eventual winner. It was an option run to the right, Ware on the flank, and when the linebacker took a step toward Smith the quarterback pitched to Ware for a 12-yard gain. After the game, talking about the winning touchdown, Smith said he was expecting to pitch the ball. I wonder if he felt that way because of what happened on the previous call.

▪ The front seven got whipped most of the afternoon. By my count, the Chargers gained 135 yards and two touchdowns on 28 carries up the middle. That’s a 4.8-yard average. There was an adjustment in the second half — I’m not smart enough to figure out exactly what it was — and the Chargers had just 26 yards on their last eight tries up the middle.

▪ I want to watch the Texans’ comeback win over the Bears before I say for sure, but I think the Chiefs are going to lose this weekend. A lot of that is the simple thought that it’s really hard to beat a team three times on the road in a span of 12 months. But some of it, too, is that the Texans are better than the Chargers in virtually every way but quarterback — better running the ball, better rushing the passer, and DeAndre Hopkins is every bit as good as Keenan Allen.

The Chiefs have a lot to clean up. As terrific as the comeback was — in strategy, execution, focus and emotion — the first 2 1/2 quarters showed a lot of flaws. The Chiefs will have to improve the interior run defense, figure out a better way to generate a pass rush and be able to mix coverages to help a young secondary.

Offensively, I think they’ll be fine. They have good players, lots of potential mismatches, and if the offensive-line mistakes can be limited, they’re going to score a lot of points. But right now, it feels like the Texans win 31-28 or so.
 
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Houston’s off-season Brian Hoyer exorcism is not the lone reason I’m picking Houston here. The Texans also now have a true No. 1 back again in Lamar Miller (San Diego rushed for 155 yards on Kansas City last week), and the Chiefs’ pass rush is going to be lacking until Justin Houston returns. The 30–0 Kansas City playoff win in Houston last January was more about K.C.’s defense and special teams than it was its offense. The home team can flip the script this year.

Watchability Score: 7. Guaranteed to be better than the wild-card round meeting, which would have broken the watchability index and was just about over 11 seconds in when Knile Davis took the opening kickoff to the house.
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"Brian Hoyer exocism" :lol:
 
ObsiWan said:
Dude passed for 363 just last week. Do "game managers" do that?
(and aren't all QBs supposed to manage the game)
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It's just the 6th time in 10 seasons (122 starts) he's hit the 300 yard mark in a game. So yeah, he can throw for 300, he's just not going to do it very often.
 
With Covinton out, if the Texans are having problems against the run, I wouldn't be opposed to putting Wilfork at DE sometimes and playing Reader at NT.
 
steelbtexan said:
With Covinton out, if the Texans are having problems against the run, I wouldn't be opposed to putting Wilfork at DE sometimes and playing Reader at NT.
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RAC was doing things with the DLine against the Bears. I'm sure I saw Wilfork at DE at least once during the game; I didn't catch who else was lined up on the line at the time.
 
MissouriTexan10 said:
Poe is overrated and not focused. Chiefs probably gonna let him walk.
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Dude, no. Poe has been battling back injuries. He's a beast. Your football analysis is mind boggling between Smith just being a game manager and Poe being overrated and not focused. Please, stop while you're ahead.
 
MissouriTexan10 said:
Poe is overrated and not focused. Chiefs probably gonna let him walk.
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I've got to ask you. Did you play football and sustain too many concussions? Are you a punch drunk ex-boxer? Somethings wrong with you. Smith is a hell of allot more then a game manager and Poe is a beast in the middle of their defense.
They will be very hard to deal with.
You need to think before you post.
The Texans are not facing a bottom dwelling team this week. The Chiefs are considered a playoff team with a possibility at a Superbowl.
These guys are going to give our Texans all they can handle.
 
JamTex said:
I've got to ask you. Did you play football and sustain too many concussions? Are you a punch drunk ex-boxer? Somethings wrong with you. Smith is a hell of allot more then a game manager and Poe is a beast in the middle of their defense.
They will be very hard to deal with.
You need to think before you post.
The Texans are not facing a bottom dwelling team this week. The Chiefs are considered a playoff team with a possibility at a Superbowl.
These guys are going to give our Texans all they can handle.
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Wow, that Koolaid is getting to you like my buddy on Seagrams Seven
 
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JamTex said:
I've got to ask you. Did you play football and sustain too many concussions? Are you a punch drunk ex-boxer? Somethings wrong with you. Smith is a hell of allot more then a game manager and Poe is a beast in the middle of their defense.
They will be very hard to deal with.
You need to think before you post.
The Texans are not facing a bottom dwelling team this week. The Chiefs are considered a playoff team with a possibility at a Superbowl.
These guys are going to give our Texans all they can handle.
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WTH with all the personal attacks? Isn't he entitled to his opinion also?
 
We will comeback to this thread after the game and see how good KC was. I have a feeling they will get blown away 20-3 texans or a close game 24-20 texans
 
We will comeback to this thread after the game and see how good KC was. I have a feeling they will get blown away 20-3 texans or a close game 24-20 texans
 
JamTex said:
I've got to ask you. Did you play football and sustain too many concussions? Are you a punch drunk ex-boxer? Somethings wrong with you. Smith is a hell of allot more then a game manager and Poe is a beast in the middle of their defense.
They will be very hard to deal with.
You need to think before you post.
The Texans are not facing a bottom dwelling team this week. The Chiefs are considered a playoff team with a possibility at a Superbowl.
These guys are going to give our Texans all they can handle.
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Now, now.... no need to be tacky. Dude said he lives in MO. but is not a Chiefs fan.
 
I'm too lazy to find the post about Poe being overrated and Smith being just a game manager. Poe is solid in the middle he's definitely no over rated.. and regarding to Smith, I don't think game managers can bring the team back from their largest deficit in their entire history of Kansas City football.

As for the game today, I think we win. Not by much, but I really want us to come out strong. Just like how we did against Chicago ( minus the INT) and get some points early. I want to see a defensive TD too. I always love those.

Texans - 24
Chiefs - 20

(I don't think I ever been right on these predictions)
 
I'm with everyone saying it's going to be a close game with the Texans edging out the Chiefs.
Texans 21
Chiefs 20
 
According to Chiefs fans, Poe has been ineffective against double teams, and the other rushers weren't able to get pressure against their 1 on 1s. So with Houston still out I hope we adopt this strategy as well.

I'm still predicting we lose, but not as much as before since Spencer Ware is suffering from Turf Toe like ailments.

Texans 20
Chiefs 24
 
jcs1311991 said:
I'm too lazy to find the post about Poe being overrated and Smith being just a game manager. Poe is solid in the middle he's definitely no over rated.. and regarding to Smith, I don't think game managers can bring the team back from their largest deficit in their entire history of Kansas City football.

As for the game today, I think we win. Not by much, but I really want us to come out strong. Just like how we did against Chicago ( minus the INT) and get some points early. I want to see a defensive TD too. I always love those.

Texans - 24
Chiefs - 20

(I don't think I ever been right on these predictions)
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Great Texan win. Btw Smith had bare ly 100 yards in air. I not trying dog the guy but he is not elite.
 
JamTex said:
I've got to ask you. Did you play football and sustain too many concussions? Are you a punch drunk ex-boxer? Somethings wrong with you. Smith is a hell of allot more then a game manager and Poe is a beast in the middle of their defense.
They will be very hard to deal with.
You need to think before you post.
The Texans are not facing a bottom dwelling team this week. The Chiefs are considered a playoff team with a possibility at a Superbowl.
These guys are going to give our Texans all they can handle.
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With all due respect Poe has regressed last few years. He had a solid rookie campaign but he is gonna not be resigned.
 
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