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Official Brock Osweiler MVP Watch Thread!

Brock had a pretty good game. I know he had a few plays he most definitely would like to have back. But overall, Brock and the entire offense played much better.

I was extremely surprised at how good the offensive line held up.

Next week they will be challenged big time.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Brock had a pretty good game. I know he had a few plays he most definitely would like to have back. But overall, Brock and the entire offense played much better.

I was extremely surprised at how good the offensive line held up.

Next week they will be challenged big time.
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He was his usual average self
 
I'm happy that Os doesn't turn into a headless chicken when he gets pressure. That is refreshing.

He made some good throws...esp chalky the TD to Fuller. That was a big time QB throw.

That game restored my optimism. Once regular season rolls around and the starters get in a groove I think Os is going to be dropping dimes.
 
ObsiWan said:
so this is how it's going to be all year?
every team we show success against "had the 40-something-th worse defense"?
Okay.
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Hey now.. people were reminding us how bad the defenses were That Dakota was beating. I just wanted to put this in perspective. The Saints weren't very good on defense last season. They don't appear to have fixed their problem.

& their offensive line is worse than it was last season. Poor Drew. He's going to play his butt off for that team, but... it's going to be a long, long season for him.
 
ObsiWan said:
so this is how it's going to be all year?
every team we show success against "had the 40-something-th worse defense"?
Okay.
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Well the Saints did have a poop defense last year. I'm glad Brock looked better this week (that INT was ugly) and I hope he keeps the improvement train rolling.

E: and really who gives a fart what Prescott does in the preseason? He was like a 4th rounder so every team passed on him a bunch of times (and we had already signed Os by then). On top of that, he is a Cowboy, whom should only be discussed with scorn and derision.
 
thunderkyss said:
Hey now.. people were reminding us how bad the defenses were That Dakota was beating. I just wanted to put this in perspective. The Saints weren't very good on defense last season. They don't appear to have fixed their problem.
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b0ng said:
Well the Saints did have a poop defense last year. I'm glad Brock looked better this week (that INT was ugly) and I hope he keeps the improvement train rolling.
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So does this say that Osweiler having a fairly good game against the Saints' "poop defense" mean he's not really progressing?
Should we still be "skeptical"? :D
 
ObsiWan said:
so this is how it's going to be all year?
every team we show success against "had the 40-something-th worse defense"?
Okay.
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If that is how you're going to interpret it then I guess that is how it's going to be. Lighten up Francis.
 
ObsiWan said:
So does this say that Osweiler having a fairly good game against the Saints' "poop defense" mean he's not really progressing?
Should we still be "skeptical"? :D
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We should be skeptical until he wins the SuperbOwls.


Really, if you're not concerned... I don't know. I was more excited than not when we signed him. I thought he showed promise in his starts in Denver. But here, he's looking meh... ok, so he's learning a new offense, so his OL is learning that new offense as well, & yeah, maybe his WRs are learning the offense, as is the RBs. But Goddangot, the TEs have been in this system for two years. Well, two of the three.
 
thunderkyss said:
Hey now.. people were reminding us how bad the defenses were That Dakota was beating. I just wanted to put this in perspective. The Saints weren't very good on defense last season. They don't appear to have fixed their problem.

& their offensive line is worse than it was last season. Poor Drew. He's going to play his butt off for that team, but... it's going to be a long, long season for him.
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Thunder we all know the obvious bud. Another obvious fact: we had three starting offensive linemen down again. Last week our backups looked horrid at best. So it was refreshing to see that same horrid line protect their quarterback against a 1st team defensive front.

And I feel for Breezy as well. But guess what, that's a Saints problem not ours. So bleep them.
 
thunderkyss said:
We should be skeptical until he wins the SuperbOwls.


Really, if you're not concerned... I don't know. I was more excited than not when we signed him. I thought he showed promise in his starts in Denver. But here, he's looking meh... ok, so he's learning a new offense, so his OL is learning that new offense as well, & yeah, maybe his WRs are learning the offense, as is the RBs. But Goddangot, the TEs have been in this system for two years. Well, two of the three.
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He's looking Meh. Wow come on Thunder. The panic button should not be pressed this freaking early. Especially after one preseason game when the offense was so vanilla.
 
Not going to face a top defense every week.

He did what he was supposed to against a "bad defense".

The top qb's in the league aren't playing the 85 Bears every week. Some of their shine comes against bad defenses too.

And well....it's a lot better than the alternative....looking bad against a non-good defense.
 
b0ng said:
I did say that I hoped he kept the improvement train rolling!
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You did. And I think we all do.
But you and "Mr. Sunshine" brought up the "fact" that the Saints defense sucked last year. So I'm trying to understand if I should temper my delight that Osweiler showed better than he did against the (also sucky) Niner defense.
I'm not all :firehair: or anything. I liked what I saw. Osweiler still needs to work on his timing and touch (especially in the redzone - I mean every pass was a 90-mph fastball) but I think that will come with more playing time and familiarity with his shiny new WR bunch. As someone in a different thread pointed out, this offense should be clicking by early-to-mid October.
 
Texian said:
most of your post do that for you.
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I'll tell you what....

I'll start posting assumptions based on inference and conjecture as reality.

Start saying every decision made by the Texans front office is in error, because well they made the decision.

Throw in absolutes like NEVER and ALWAYS because I know it all already, future and past.

I'll even throw in a mundane stat sheet to back up my version of reality.

Hell, I'll even try to start being an asshole without being funny!

We will be best chums.
 
I think we have to remember that BoB got this team to 9-7 twice with 3+ starting QBs. If Brock O is better than Hoyer and Fitzy I think we are in good shape.

Yeah he still has a lot of work to do but I don't think the bar is that high and we have better receivers than under the Fitzy hoyer days
 
ObsiWan said:
You did. And I think we all do.
But you and "Mr. Sunshine" brought up the "fact" that the Saints defense sucked last year. So I'm trying to understand if I should temper my delight that Osweiler showed better than he did against the (also sucky) Niner defense.
I'm not all :firehair: or anything. I liked what I saw. Osweiler still needs to work on his timing and touch (especially in the redzone - I mean every pass was a 90-mph fastball) but I think that will come with more playing time and familiarity with his shiny new WR bunch. As someone in a different thread pointed out, this offense should be clicking by early-to-mid October.
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When Oz gets excited that ball has some heat!
 
DBCooper said:
I'll tell you what....

I'll start posting assumptions based on inference and conjecture as reality.

Start saying every decision made by the Texans front office is in error, because well they made the decision.

Throw in absolutes like NEVER and ALWAYS because I know it all already, future and past.

I'll even throw in a mundane stat sheet to back up my version of reality.

Hell, I'll even try to start being an asshole without being funny!

We will be best chums.
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Don't do it !! Stay strong and happy .

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DBCooper said:
I'll tell you what....

I'll start posting assumptions based on inference and conjecture as reality.

Start saying every decision made by the Texans front office is in error, because well they made the decision.

Throw in absolutes like NEVER and ALWAYS because I know it all already, future and past.

I'll even throw in a mundane stat sheet to back up my version of reality.

Hell, I'll even try to start being an asshole without being funny!

We will be best chums.
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Keep trolling DB, keep trolling along with your vulgar middle school juvenile immature post that never bring much to the conversation. You don't like the way I post and I don't like the way you post. What you say you and I be done with this. You don't respond to me and I won't respond to you. That way folks won't have endure this unwelcomed and uncomfortable tit for tat any longer. I'll even give you the last word. Go ahead....
 
ObsiWan said:
You did. And I think we all do.
But you and "Mr. Sunshine" brought up the "fact" that the Saints defense sucked last year. So I'm trying to understand if I should temper my delight that Osweiler showed better than he did against the (also sucky) Niner defense.
I'm not all :firehair: or anything. I liked what I saw. Osweiler still needs to work on his timing and touch (especially in the redzone - I mean every pass was a 90-mph fastball) but I think that will come with more playing time and familiarity with his shiny new WR bunch. As someone in a different thread pointed out, this offense should be clicking by early-to-mid October.
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Bringing up how bad the saints were last year should serve as a barometer to where Os is. He looked a little shaky vs what is more likely to be the better defense between the 49'ers and the Saints. If he had looked as shaky versus the Saints true worry should probably set. After the 9'ers game my thoughts were that it might take the whole season for the offense to look as envisioned. After this game I think it's reasonable to expect decent performances against the flotsam that hangs around in the AFCS.
 
Texian said:
Keep trolling DB, keep trolling along with your vulgar middle school juvenile immature post that never bring much to the conversation. You don't like the way I post and I don't like the way you post. What you say you and I be done with this. You don't respond to me and I won't respond to you. That way folks won't have endure this unwelcomed and uncomfortable tit for tat any longer. I'll even give you the last word. Go ahead....
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The ignore feature is your friend.
 
I saw traces of good QB play from OZ. That's a step in the right direction at least. Still worried but hopeful.
 
driller80545 said:
Well, since the end of last year, I have believed that number 5 is the best QB on the team. And I still think so.
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I also believe Weeden is the best QB on the team at this point. Unfortunately, the only way Weeden will ever see the light of day during the regular season is if Brock and Savage both go down to injuries. Even if Brock throws pick sixes every game and the Texans are losing consistently, Osweiler will remain the starter because the Texans would NEVER bench a guy they're paying $tens of millions to.

BOB claims that Savage is the #2 guy because he knows the system better? Nonsense! The only reason Savage is #2 is because the Texans drafted him. That is the same stupidity why BOB started Hoyer and kept him in the Chiefs playoff game no matter how bad he looked. Even if Weeden didn't know the whole playbook, he definitely would've still given the Texans a good chance to win; with Hoyer the Texans had no chance!
 
Thorsson said:
I also believe Weeden is the best QB on the team at this point. Unfortunately, the only way Weeden will ever see the light of day during the regular season is if Brock and Savage both go down to injuries. Even if Brock throws pick sixes every game and the Texans are losing consistently, Osweiler will remain the starter because the Texans would NEVER bench a guy they're paying $tens of millions to.

BOB claims that Savage is the #2 guy because he knows the system better? Nonsense! The only reason Savage is #2 is because the Texans drafted him. That is the same stupidity why BOB started Hoyer and kept him in the Chiefs playoff game no matter how bad he looked. Even if Weeden didn't know the whole playbook, he definitely would've still given the Texans a good chance to win; with Hoyer the Texans had no chance!
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Just go tell O'Brien to hire you as QB coach cuz you're smarter than him or Godsey... :rolleyes:

Oh yeah, they don't hire players moms do they?
 
JB said:
Just go tell O'Brien to hire you as QB coach cuz you're smarter than him or Godsey... :rolleyes:

Oh yeah, they don't hire players moms do they?
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If O'Brien is a good judge of QBs, then I'm a brain surgeon! What kind of coach is responsible for the worst QB showing in NFL playoff history? A lousy one!

I hope I'm wrong, but it is my opinion that Brock Osweiler will be a bust.
 
I hope OS is the franchise QB that we have all been dreaming of for years, and I am encouraged by the improvement from the 49ers game....but something about his tape just leaves me feeling a little less than confident. I hope and pray that my hesitation is proven to be unwarranted!
 
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Thorsson said:
If O'Brien is a good judge of QBs, then I'm a brain surgeon! What kind of coach is responsible for the worst QB showing in NFL playoff history? A lousy one!

I hope I'm wrong, but it is my opinion that Brock Osweiler will be a bust.
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You're entitled to your opinion, but keep in mind that O'Brien is in the NFL and where are you? Brain Surgery you said?

Osweiler may not be the answer, but if he's not, Weeden is for damn sure not
 
JB said:
You're entitled to your opinion, but keep in mind that O'Brien is in the NFL and where are you? Brain Surgery you said?

Osweiler may not be the answer, but if he's not, Weeden is for damn sure not
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Well the word I'm getting is that Osweiler is not the best-performing QB in the Texans training camp. The starting job was not earned, it was given to him only because he made seven starts for the Broncos last season, received a ton of publicity for it, and was rewarded with $tens of millions. The only QB more overhyped than Osweiler last season was Johnny Manziel.
 
Thorsson said:
Well the word I'm getting is that Osweiler is not the best-performing QB in the Texans training camp. The starting job was not earned, it was given to him only because he made seven starts for the Broncos last season, received a ton of publicity for it, and was rewarded with $tens of millions. The only QB more overhyped than Osweiler last season was Johnny Manziel.
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Who should it have been given to?

And for the record, isn't that what every backup in the NFL does to get a starting gig?

Play well for one team when given a chance, get accolades, then either sign as a FA or get traded to another team as a starter.
 
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Insideop said:
"We're coaching the heck out of our team. … I can't predict anything," said O'Brien, opting for common sense and reason during a time of preseason hysteria.

Right now, I'm more concerned about the fragile state of the Texans' offensive line than how many throws Osweiler nails in a game we hopefully won't remember in a few weeks.

I want to see a receiver other than DeAndre Hopkins in this offense. I want to know if Miller can walk in Arian Foster's shoes for 16 games – the latter struggled to fill his own the last two years.

Osweiler will be evaluated series by series, game by game, month by month. Just because he starts strong doesn't mean he'll finish that way. Bombing his initial September audition won't prove the Texans blew their cash on the wrong guy.

We'll know much more about Osweiler this time next year - and even then we'll still be trying to figure out if he's the true answer.

Everything else is just an overreaction.
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This is exactly how one gets to MEDIOCRITY.
Without vision comes the lack of ability to evaluate talent.

Even "until this same time next year", he (B. Smith) says "he will still be trying to figure out" about Osweiler.

I'm not trying to be a smart A** or anything like that, but this really is how a team would never be a serious contender.
 
sandman said:
Who should it have been given to?
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The starting job shouldn't be given to anyone; it should be earned! Whoever gives the team the best chance to win should be named the starter.

Being a Super Bowl backup to a legend should not automatically give one a starting position with another team.
 
Thorsson said:
The starting job shouldn't be given to anyone; it should be earned! Whoever gives the team the best chance to win should be named the starter.

Being a Super Bowl backup to a legend should not automatically give one a starting position with another team.
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Except he wasn't just a backup in the context that you describe. He was 5-2 as a starter during the regular season for the SB champs.

So the Texans should have said, "Here is $37 million guaranteed, but it will be an open competition for the starting job"?
 
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