infantrycak
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And this tells you the Texans haven't volunteered so far or there wouldn't be an issue.
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And this tells you the Texans haven't volunteered so far or there wouldn't be an issue.
The NFL is really screwy sometimes. That's got to be the stupidest rule ever.
Yeah, tell me about it.
But, fact is, sooner or later it'll be our turn.
Perhaps McNair is "considering" that it would be best to get this B/S out of the way now so we don't have to sweat it for the next ten years.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
I wonder what would happen in a owner just refused?
All eligible owners would have to refuse then Goodell would have to pick some poor bastard...
If he were smart, he'd offer up a free draft pick - say 4th round, you know, the first compensatory pick - for volunteers who had not yet participated... Maybe offer an extra 5-10 mil of salary cap relief. Now that would garner up some volunteering! As it stands the team gets nothing for the intrusion/inconvenience.
This show is just another way to market the shield, and there seems to be nothing more important to the NFL commish than marketing and protecting the image of the shield.
That said, it's still an entertaining show to watch.
That said, it's still an entertaining show to watch.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
What I meant was, when all else failed, and asshole Goodell then picked someone, that someone refused to take part in Hard Knocks. What would be the consequences of that is what I was wondering about. It sure sounds like something I'd do if I was a football owner.
But then, I'm a complete asshole and not sure they'd let me in their stupid little club.
What I meant was, when all else failed, and asshole Goodell then picked someone, that someone refused to take part in Hard Knocks. What would be the consequences of that is what I was wondering about. It sure sounds like something I'd do if I was a football owner.
But then, I'm a complete asshole and not sure they'd let me in their stupid little club.
Lots of complete assholes in their little club... if you had the money you'd fit right in
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
It would be much later if we could regularly find our way into the playoffs............at least, at that time we would have proved a semblance of maturity and stability with less chance of team distraction while they prepare themselves for the next season. JMHO
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
What I meant was, when all else failed, and asshole Goodell then picked someone, that someone refused to take part in Hard Knocks. What would be the consequences of that is what I was wondering about. It sure sounds like something I'd do if I was a football owner.
But then, I'm a complete asshole and not sure they'd let me in their stupid little club.
The rule to require participation for those teams fitting the criteria was voted in unanimously by the ownership, so I'm thinking it's pretty unlikely it ever comes to pass.
But if a team did refuse to participate, and somehow managed to actually find a way not to, I'm guessing they would be both fined and forced to forfeit draft picks. In both cases, out the proverbial Wazool
kingtexan
All Pro
Then they would work a deal out with another owner to "volunteer", whether it be financial or otherwise.
Anyone who thinks the NFL will force a team to be on Hardknocks is a fool.
when you point a finger, you have 3 pointing back at you... j/s
a number of us have said that yes, a team could be forced into it. You called us fools but don't think that's 3rd grade rhetoric?
Just matching wit for wit
If by "deal" you mean Goodell would threaten to take away draft picks from all who refused then maybe you're right.
That's not what I call a deal if I'm the one being threatened. The NFL has a contract with HBO, so Goodell will do what's necessary to provide HBO with a subject team.
Think of it this way, after the NFL signed up with Nike did you see any Reebok apparel on the sidelines?
Very intelligent response... seems to be your mo
banned1976
sleeper mode
That doesn't count in this instance. Individuals can do as they please - up to a point. The players/coaches work for the corporation that is the NFL.
From a couple of years ago - Debunking Hard Knocks myths
http://firststopfantasy.com/nfl-teams/cincinnati-bengals/debunking-myths-about-hard-knocks/
http://firststopfantasy.com/nfl-teams/cincinnati-bengals/debunking-myths-about-hard-knocks/
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
Are we suppose to know who these little girls are?
DX-TEX
#TomSavageDontCare
No. The gif is just awesome.
Marshall
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You know it's screwy when the playoff teams are exempt. That tells you something right there.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
That's true. The NFL prefers Vinegar to honey...unless it involves moving a team to LA LA LAnd.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Apparently honey doesn't work that well then since the NFL hasn't been in LA since 1994.
Just saying, everyone acts like the NFL is desperate to have a team in LA. It's been 20 years and 4 expansion teams. They could have made it happen if they really cared all that much.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
And everyone else pays dearly for a franchise and the NFL keeps upping the LA Pot.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Like what?
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
Promises of an NFL financed stadium because LA won't use their taxpayers for football. They want that all for themselves.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
When you find a shred of support for that get back to us. There are two private finance proposals going on now.
TEXANRED
Texan-American
No. It's called humor.
I recall it was discussed once upon a time maybe. As a possibility IF public funding didn't go thru AND if private means didn't step up
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
Violence is rarely humorous to me. But slap stick artists like the three stooges where the violence is obviously staged is an exception. But there is nothing humorous in real fighting.
But thanks to all for the answer to my question.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
And I'm sure nobody remembers being sold projects to be totally funded by the private sector like hotel/motel taxes, who then went belly up and became a public financial fiasco.
Modern business prefers to lock in gains from others risk and shift losses to them when things don't work out.
Too bad they've left risk/reward capitalism in the muck.
banned1976
sleeper mode
You find no humor watching Watt pick up Luck and slam him to the turf? I find that highly humorous. I look forward to the next time he does it.
No.
Because the way they call the games today, Watt would get penalized for unnecessary roughness and might even get ejected.
:mariopalm:
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Watt (this is not a knock, I like that he is thoughtfully doin it) very consciously gets every hit in he thinks he can get away with. You can see the little gears start spinning in his head when the balls leaves on whether he should go ahead and hit. He's playing the line hard.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
It's not that hard. Play hard to the whistle. I've never seen him intentionally injure any player, even when he fouls are called. They are just the results of good hits gone bad under today's touch rules.
He seems to get a kick from helping the player up and doing it again.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Given that there's no whistle in the scenario I gave, pretty much a useless rule suggestion.
I didn't say deliberately injure. I said he pushes the rules for late hits/hits after the ball is gone.
I always try to make it to at least one T/C session. Frickin' e-tickets were pretty much gone within hours of the start time.
Now it's gonna be worse.
Yeah, 5 of his 8 team-leading penalties were either roughing the passer or roughing the kicker.
Step back from that line J.J.... just a toe. I don't want to lose you to a flag-happy ref.
paycheck71
Hall of Fame
I think he got away with way more borderline late hits than he got penalized for. I'm fine with what he's doing. Maybe get 15 yds once every other game, but get 3-4 hits in each game that make the QB think twice and spend that extra fraction of a second wondering where JJ is.
Bulls on Parade
2017 Astros: Earn It!
I never understand why when we play the Colts, especially at Indianapolis. the referees will call a ticky tack personal foul on J.J. Watt for a helmet-to-helmet hit on the quarterback (replays show it wasn't even high enough) when we're in position to beat them which changes the momentum.
But flip the script when the Colts defensive player gets a low hit or a cheap shot and late hit (way later and dirtier than Watt's) on our quarterback nothing is called when we're also in position to tie or beat them. It's like the zebras are helping the Colts remain undefeated against us at Indy. 0-13 all-time going into 2015 but we had them on the ropes at least twice there. Actually three times in fact.
Don't officiate any differently toward J.J. Watt, arguably the greatest defensive player in NFL history at the pace he's playing at, compared to any random scrub defensive player on the Colts. If anything Watt should get the benefit of the doubt and not the other way around.
I bet if somebody had the time and went back to gather game footage of the last handful of games the Texans played at Indianapolis, especially in Watt's career as a Texan, they can find some legitimate evidence to send the league to see some one-sided and unfair officiating.
Not to add to the conspiracy theory, but this reminds me of the leg whip Fitz received in the last Colts game. Where in the photo you could see a ref looking at the play in clear sight. No whistle. No fine on the guy who did the tripping (Newsome?). Nothing. Did O'Brien ever address this? It's stuff like this that feeds this kind of conspiracy ideas.
BTW, the Colts are bunch of punks. Not even beating the Cowgirls could bring me more joy than kicking Indy's arse.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
Reporting unfair practices to the Originator seldom result in punitive action.
AngryNateFTW
Veteran
Texans, Bills, and the Redskins are the 3 teams.
Who wants to watch the Redskins?
Narrows it down to 2.
Bills have Rex Ryan and we have JJ Watt who the NFL loves to mic up.
Who wants to watch the Redskins?
Narrows it down to 2.
Bills have Rex Ryan and we have JJ Watt who the NFL loves to mic up.
But the Bills don't have our Bill, and I'm talking bout Billy and I don't think Billy is a "Hard Knocks" kinda guy ? With Rex Ryan I see them getting it because the media likes Ryan and unlike our Billy Ryan likes the attention. He uses a lot of profanity and he's got this foot fetish thing and that's what the media loves. I look forward to watching Ryan and his Bills this year.