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Ryan Mallett

Totally agree, and I wanted so bad for Keenum to be the guy (UH Alum here). Case only had a couple tricks up his sleeve mostly in the long ball and scrambling, but once blitzed could not find a hot read to save his life. I saw Mallet throw deep, sideline routes, hot reads, play actions and seeming do a good job of directing traffic all in yesterdays game. I'm not anointing him yet, but his in game IQ (in this small sample) shows much better than anyone since 3 years ago Schaub on this roster.

Schaub did not need to have or intensely test his in-game IQ........Kubiak and his system mostly did that for him.
 
I wish we had started Ryan Mallett way back when. As early as the Cowboys game. We may have beaten the Cowboys and Colts with his canon arm. If we had just beaten the Colts we'd be in first place in the AFC South right now. As it stands now we're only one game back with a 5-5 record. We probably should be 7-3 if we had went to Mallett sooner.

But oh well, like J.J. Watt said in his post-game conference last night. "one game at a time. Let's go beat the Bengals now and pick up another win." If we can just finish strong and let's say we win all six games left, including a franchise changing victory at Indianapolis for the first time ever, we may win the AFC South at 11-5. I think the Colts could realistically end up 10-6 or 9-7. They may lose two or three more games.

Colts Remaining Schedule:\

12 Nov 23 Jaguars W
13 Nov 30 Redskins W
14 Dec 7 AT Browns ?
15 Dec 14 Texans L
16 Dec 21 AT Cowboys ?
17 Dec 28 AT Titans W

We need to win our game and hope they lose at least one against the Cowboys or Browns since we cannot win the division with a tie (1-1, 5-1, Lose Common Games). A surprise loss to another division opponent would be very helpful giving us a division advantage 5-1 to 4-2)
 
This was my overall take away as well...he showed poise and control. Nothing said that more than the 2 minute drill before the half. He really seemed to know what he was doing. If he continues to show that, i think he/we will be alright.

I know it's a little thing, but I liked his quick huddle. Get them to the LOS in time to make an adjustment and still get the play off. That's on both the QB and the coaches.
 
This was his first game in the NFL and already put the same stats as a 10 year vet. He still has more games to go, but he played very well and seemed poised out there, something I didn't see Fitz do in 9 games.
I'm drinking the Kool-aid :koolaid:

I'm neither OVERLY optimistic nor pessimistic, but moderately optimistic as I believe fans were meant to be.

I'm glad it wasn't a perfect game because those are usually followed by a meltdown.
 
The most unexpected outcome for me was, this...

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Three-piece suit, pretty polished and composed, thoughtful answers, complimentary of his teammates, engaging of the media. Color me surprised.

Postgame Video: Ryan Mallett

There is no more hopeful thing than the return of the prodigal son to his senses.
 
I was impressed with the suit as well.

But... doesn't a three piece include a vest? Jacket, vest, pants?

There IS a vest. It is made out of the same material as the jacket, but you can see the top button of the vest above the V of the jacket and the outline of the vest if you look closely. I assume it comes with pants.
 
Can't that boy stand still during the interview? Hell, I got tired just watching him. He sways more than a drunk at 2AM. :lol:
 
I'll anoint him the man. I never liked Schaub or the Beard. We can always impeach him if it doesn't work out.
 
I'll anoint him our starter against the Bengals.

And I will make the statement that he's an upgrade over Fitzpatrick and that he gives us the best chance to win games now. I really like what I saw during this game.

I've got to see some improvement before I anoint him our QB of the future.
 
Well said, man. I like his obvious command of the offense both in terms of obviously being comfortable as a leader and the reception his offense gave him as their new leader.

He did not look rattled at all during any part of the game. Even after the INT, which took a potential FG off the board, he looked determined more than anything else. I never saw a "wtf?" look on his face, but rather he was talking to his teammates and getting ready for the next possession.

Even little details like pausing during a snap count when two players went in motion impressed me. He stepped up and told Meyers to reset the count, waited for his offense to set, and then got the snap. That kind of attention to small details makes a big difference.

He looked like he was having fun out there, and I think that attitude is infectious. You can tell by the interviews with other players that they are excited about him being out there.

The jury is still out, of course, but I'll say it right here that I feel like the Texans have their QB. This guy and O'Brien have history. This is the guy our HC wanted, coached him in the same system as a rookie, and he got a 3 year learning experience from one of the greatest QBs and head coaches that can never been underestimated as it pertains to development.

I'm excited about the Texans future for the first time in a long time. If that's drinking koolaid, so be it. Pour me another cup! :koolaid:

Good post. I saw a different play that I was impressed with. I think it was late 1st half. Mallet brought the team up and was going through presnap when the Browns line shifted to the right and there was a moment of confusion. It should have worked against the Texans, but Mallet saw the shift and clearly made a presnap read before calling for a quick snap, turning right, and firing to the outlet receiver for a nice gain. We hadn't been getting many yards on those. Browns were caught overcommitted to the other side and couldn't recover quickly enough to limit the gain.
 
I could be wrong but I do not remember Mallett throwing a pass to AJ behind the line of scrimmage hoping he would do something with it. AJ must be extremely grateful.
 
Oh come on bro. Get off that fence. :kitten:



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Stats are not all that matters. His passing yards are irrelevant, especially with how easily we were killing them with the run. Should we pass just to prove Mallett can pass? No, you keep doing what they cannot stop. Brady yesterday checked out of a play just before the half getting greedy and it cost him. Manning the same thing. Mallet did exactly what he needed to do.



Indeed!



Well at least 6 wins difference. Must suck though to go from first to last in your division in just one game. Glad we are not playing in that division. lol Sucks to be a Browns fan today.



Agreed!

For me, it was not just the zip on Mallett's passes that made the difference. More important was his anticipation. As soon as those players running short routes turned their head around the ball was there. That was not happening with Fitz. He always held on to the ball to long and rarely anticipated his throws. Mainly because he lacks the arm strength Mallett possess.

Yea it's only one game, but he looked great considering the circumstances. No question at all he understands the system and reads the D than Fitz could ever hope to. I may have to reconsider my 8-8 prediction with Mallett under center. I can feel our first win in Indy just around the corner especially if Foster is 100% by then.

Pour me a few glasses. :koolaid: :good:

PreSnap reads, that was a huge improvement yesterday.
Second, getting the ball out fast.
If those two things continue, he'll be fine and the Texans have a good shot to win out.....barring those things we can't control. Returning players from injury down the stretch should also help. This team is better than the record shows. Offensively and defensively there is potential, won't face me teams that share that.
 
I could be wrong but I do not remember Mallett throwing a pass to AJ behind the line of scrimmage hoping he would do something with it. AJ must be extremely grateful.

Come to think of it, neither do I

We seemed to do that a lot with Fitz, even against press coverage
 
I want to see what happens when teams load the box and dare Mallet to beat them.
I know Fitz failed that test. ...when the game was on Fitz's shoulders we fans were in clench mode.
For the record, I think Mallet will pass that test because of the command of this offense that he showed on Sunday.

...but hold my koolaid for one more week.
 
I want to see what happens when teams load the box and dare Mallet to beat them.
I know Fitz failed that test. ...when the game was on Fitz's shoulders we fans were in clench mode.
For the record, I think Mallet will pass that test because of the command of this offense that he showed on Sunday.

...but hold my koolaid for one more week.

Browns did that early until Mallett tossed a couple deep throws on them... when he connected on one they stopped
 
Browns did that early until Mallett tossed a couple deep throws on them... when he connected on one they stopped

That's because the Browns suck.

Pittsburgh didn't stop going after Mettenberger after he scored on them twice & it worked out pretty well for them.

St. Louis knew there was a risk in blitzing Manning. But sitting back & getting picked apart didn't sound conducive to winning either.
 
That's because the Browns suck.

Pittsburgh didn't stop going after Mettenberger after he scored on them twice & it worked out pretty well for them.

St. Louis knew there was a risk in blitzing Manning. But sitting back & getting picked apart didn't sound conducive to winning either.


you keep railing on that bad Cleveland team and giving the Texans no credit

The Browns were 6-3, 2 games better than us, and better than the Dolts

That bad Browns team beat that Pittsburg team badly... 31-10
That bad Browns team beat that Tennessee team

And that bad Browns team trounced the team we're facing this week that you keep pumping up. And they went into their house to do it. Right before they face us and we trounced them. Now Cincy is coming here in our house. Our noise, our team. I don't understand why you're trying to denigrate the Texans or the Browns. Any given Sunday ya know?
 
you keep railing on that bad Cleveland team and giving the Texans no credit

I don't understand why you're trying to denigrate the Texans or the Browns. Any given Sunday ya know?

I'm just very disappointed in the Browns. .. I thought they would have been better. But I can't think of one thing they do well. I didn't think much of Hoyer & Hayden is the only guy on their team worth mentioning.

Before the game I thought their record was inflated, but I thought they had two quality wins... but the Steelers are a true Jeckle&Hyde team & we're about to find out what's what with the Bengals.

You are what your record says you are... at the end of the season. I don't think the Browns will finish 8-8.
 
I'm just very disappointed in the Browns. .. I thought they would have been better. But I can't think of one thing they do well. I didn't think much of Hoyer & Hayden is the only guy on their team worth mentioning.

Before the game I thought their record was inflated, but I thought they had two quality wins... but the Steelers are a true Jeckle&Hyde team & we're about to find out what's what with the Bengals.

You are what your record says you are... at the end of the season. I don't think the Browns will finish 8-8.

The Browns (beat Pitt/Cincy but lose to Jax), Steelers (beat BAL/INDY but lose to TB/NYJ) and Cincy (beat BAL twice but have three blowout losses) are all doing a Jeckyll & Hyde this season.

Cincy seems to be all about Dalton channeling Sexy Rexy for half the season, so it will be interesting to see who shows up under center on Sunday.
 
I'm just very disappointed in the Browns. .. I thought they would have been better. But I can't think of one thing they do well. I didn't think much of Hoyer & Hayden is the only guy on their team worth mentioning.

Before the game I thought their record was inflated, but I thought they had two quality wins... but the Steelers are a true Jeckle&Hyde team & we're about to find out what's what with the Bengals.

You are what your record says you are... at the end of the season. I don't think the Browns will finish 8-8.

So you don't think this was a quality win by the Texans. If the Browns finish 8-8 or better, will that change your tune? If the Texans finish 8-8 or better as a result of beating crappy teams like the Browns, will you be hyped up about the Texans? Most importantly, how does this play into your national rankings formula?
 
So you don't think this was a quality win by the Texans. If the Browns finish 8-8 or better, will that change your tune? If the Texans finish 8-8 or better as a result of beating crappy teams like the Browns, will you be hyped up about the Texans? Most importantly, how does this play into your national rankings formula?

We kept it close with a sucky QB vs good teams, with a better QB we can beat anyone.
 
So you don't think this was a quality win by the Texans. If the Browns finish 8-8 or better, will that change your tune? If the Texans finish 8-8 or better as a result of beating crappy teams like the Browns, will you be hyped up about the Texans? Most importantly, how does this play into your national rankings formula?

If the offense continues to play the way it did Sunday, I'll be hyped about this team.

I think the team's play against the Cowboys, Indy, & Pittsburgh were better gauges of how good this team is than the win over Cleveland. I look at that game no different than the Raider's & Redskin's win. We dominated against a bad team.

I think Cincinnati, @Indy, & Baltimore are quality teams & not winning any of them, finishing 8-8 with wins over Ten & Jax x2, puts us in the lower half of mediocre teams. I think that would be a disappointing season considering the talent we do have.

I'd feel the same way if we beat Cincy & lose to the Titans. If the Titans can put together another two or three games like they did against Pittsburgh, I'm going to believe they're a lot closer to us than we think they are now.

Losing to Jacksonville right now is just not acceptable. Beating Indy @ Indy would mean a lot to me. Beating both Indy & Baltimore, losing to Cincy & Tenn, finishing 9-7 would put us in the top half of the mediocre teams. If that gets us into the play offs & we make a run... AFC Championship game, then I'd be really hyped. But if we don't make it to the play offs & have to do the should've, would've, could've thing all summer... eh.
 
I think the team's play against the Cowboys, Indy, & Pittsburgh were better gauges of how good this team is than the win over Cleveland. I look at that game no different than the Raider's & Redskin's win. We dominated against a bad team.

At some point wins are wins. The Raiders and Redskins have a combined 3 wins in 20 games. The Browns have 6 wins in 10 games. 15% winning v. 60% winning - yes, there's a difference.
 
At some point wins are wins. The Raiders and Redskins have a combined 3 wins in 20 games. The Browns have 6 wins in 10 games. 15% winning v. 60% winning - yes, there's a difference.

It's like the DPOY award. You can go by stats, you can go by W-Ls, or you can watch the game. Regardless of what their record is, the Browns are not a good team, or at least they didn't play like one Sunday.
 
It's like the DPOY award. You can go by stats, you can go by W-Ls, or you can watch the game. Regardless of what their record is, the Browns are not a good team, or at least they didn't play like one Sunday.

And anyone who watches the games knows the Browns are better than the Raiders and Skins. It's not a binary system where you're either as good as the SB champs or equivalent to the Raiders. The Browns are neither of those extremes (and neither are the Texans).
 
I'm just very disappointed in the Browns. .. I thought they would have been better. But I can't think of one thing they do well. I didn't think much of Hoyer & Hayden is the only guy on their team worth mentioning.

Before the game I thought their record was inflated, but I thought they had two quality wins... but the Steelers are a true Jeckle&Hyde team & we're about to find out what's what with the Bengals.

You are what your record says you are... at the end of the season. I don't think the Browns will finish 8-8.

I honestly think JJ Watt made them look worse than what they are. I'm starting to realize Watt is becoming a legend and I was taking it for granted.
If Mallett continues to improve, and Watt continues his dominance, then we may just go to the playoffs this year. :texflag:
 
I honestly think JJ Watt made them look worse than what they are. I'm starting to realize Watt is becoming a legend and I was taking it for granted.
If Mallett continues to improve, and Watt continues his dominance, then we may just go to the playoffs this year. :texflag:

if not the playoffs, outside looking in with a 10-6, 9-7 record is a very positive thing going into next year knowing you have a QB that can help you get wins.

and those records are not too far fetched with their remaining record.
 
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if not the playoffs, outside looking in with a 10-6, 9-7 record is a very positive thing going into next year knowing you have a QB that can help you get wins.

and those records are not to far fetched with their remaining record.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind a winning record at this point and missing the playoffs. Maybe if the qb situation is taken care of, we can start adding talent at other positions in the draft.
 
if not the playoffs, outside looking in with a 10-6, 9-7 record is a very positive thing going into next year knowing you have a QB that can help you get wins.

and those records are not to far fetched with their remaining record.

10-6, after being 4-5, would be pretty amazing.
 
Yeah, I wouldn't mind a winning record at this point and missing the playoffs. Maybe if the qb situation is taken care of, we can start adding talent at other positions in the draft.

Are you suggesting we'll also be getting a new GM?
 
The one thing I hadn't considered is how his play was going to open up the running game by making the Browns open up the box. I never expected that day from Blue and I think with Fitzy, we wouldn't have gotten it.

The above is what this team is built for, but they haven't had a QB to take advantage of the fact that we have Foster\Blue as a RB, and two serious WR threats in Andre and Deandre. When Fitz was QB there were so many times when the team would stack 8 or even 9 in the box and leave one or both WR's in single-coverage with one-deep safety.

The Browns' started the game this way, but even the long incompletion to Andre and the successful downfield pass to Deandre made them immediately pull guys out of the box. Add in Mallet's tempo to tire out Cleveland's line and the run game explodes.

As long as Mallet keeps up his performance the offensive will again go into a pick-your-poison for the opposing team's defense/DC, and with Foster's return the poison will be a bit more fatal!
 
As long as Mallet keeps up his performance the offensive will again go into a pick-your-poison for the opposing team's defense/DC, and with Foster's return the poison will be a bit more fatal!


I love to see this happen again. We can make a serious run when our offense returns to this level of play.
 
Rivers McCown isn't all that impressed with Mallett

I don't think I saw enough opportunities of tough situations to say for a fact that Mallett is better than my initial evaluation of him. He's certainly earned the chance to show us more, but I worry that if an enterprising defense man-covers his receivers up and down the board and sends pressure after him, the results won't be pretty.

More HERE
 
With a great defense and consistently solid running game, all this team needs from Mallet is to be a game manager that does not make mistakes. They do not need a QB that can put the team on his back right now, and I think that is the key to understanding what O'Brien has in mind for his style of "complementary football".

If Mallett ends up being a QB that can carry a team, great! However, he does not have to be that for this team to be successful.
 
With a great defense and consistently solid running game, all this team needs from Mallet is to be a game manager that does not make mistakes. They do not need a QB that can put the team on his back right now, and I think that is the key to understanding what O'Brien has in mind for his style of "complementary football".

If Mallett ends up being a QB that can carry a team, great! However, he does not have to be that for this team to be successful.

Isn't that the same thing we asked Fitz to do?
 
With Mallet, I need a few great drives a game.

And the others to sustain a few first downs.

Our defense plays well when rested.
 
It's like the DPOY award. You can go by stats, you can go by W-Ls, or you can watch the game. Regardless of what their record is, the Browns are not a good team, or at least they didn't play like one Sunday.

Is that because of a mystical experience or because they were playing US?
 
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