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Ryan Mallett traded to Texans

What are you trying to say? You come off as hating on O'Brien before one game is actually played.
I'm not hating on OB at all, but I'd kick him to the curb in a heartbeat if BB was available. There are nicer ways to put it, but that's how I see it.

OB might end up being the greatest coach in NFL history, but BB is already in the conversation.
 
Name one current coach or prospect you'd take over him.

Maybe Pete Carroll or one of the Harbaugh brothers, but that's about it. I'd dang sure take him over OB right now.

OB hasn't even had a chance to show us what he has when it counts. He could be the next greatest head coach in the history of the NFL. We wont know until he is given a shot like the other you named were given a shot.

Me personally i think we will all be very surprised at how good of a coach he is, i expect big things from O'brien.
 
OB hasn't even had a chance to show us what he has when it counts. He could be the next greatest head coach in the history of the NFL. We wont know until he is given a shot like the other you named were given a shot.

Me personally i think we will all be very surprised at how good of a coach he is, i expect big things from O'brien.

One thing O'Brien is doing is making adjustments to his plan when needed.

The other regime was stuck in their own quagmire.

Let's hope he does it on gameday.
 
One thing O'Brien is doing is making adjustments to his plan when needed.

The other regime was stuck in their own quagmire.

Let's hope he does it on gameday.

I'm hopeful that OB is looking for the players with the ability to adjust well on the fly. Adjustments in game and adjustments during camp have a similar requirement. Pick it up fast and implement it well.
 
I'm hopeful that OB is looking for the players with the ability to adjust well on the fly. Adjustments in game and adjustments during camp have a similar requirement. Pick it up fast and implement it well.

Me too.

I hated the way Wade and Kubiak stuck to their predictable plan no matter what.

Sometimes it worked but not for long.
 
Lest we forget these recent ringing endorsements...

"I was blown away today. I saw a legitimate NFL starting quarterback today backing up Tom Brady," Mike Mayock said after Monday's scrimmage versus the Redskins.

"So as the season progresses and we get closer to draft time and what the Patriots can or can't do with him, I think they drafted Jimmy Garoppolo for a reason, as an insurance policy. But trust me, Ryan Mallett's a starting quarterback in this league, and he popped today."

Buccaneers All Pro defensive tackle Gerald McCoy told the Dave Dameshek Football Program this offseason that Mallett is "going to be special whoever he plays for."

"He's a Tom Brady in the making. And I really love Tom Brady," McCoy said. "I've watched (Mallett) prepare in practice over the past couple of years. And my respect for that guy went to an all-time high because I've watched."
 
OB hasn't even had a chance to show us what he has when it counts. He could be the next greatest head coach in the history of the NFL. We wont know until he is given a shot like the other you named were given a shot.

Me personally i think we will all be very surprised at how good of a coach he is, i expect big things from O'brien.
Good points, but would you take P. Manning, Brady or a few other QB's over RM or TS (not even a question with Fitz) right now, this season? Either of the latter might be greater than any of the former, but I wouldn't bet a penny on it. I was against signing Manning a couple of years ago and I was wrong. Another lesson learned.

I'm cool with OB as the Texans HC, but there's no way I don't take BB or PC over him.
 
One thing O'Brien is doing is making adjustments to his plan when needed.

The other regime was stuck in their own quagmire.

Let's hope he does it on gameday.

Me too.

I hated the way Wade and Kubiak stuck to their predictable plan no matter what.

Sometimes it worked but not for long.
Me three...or four...I'm looking forward to seeing what OB's offense really looks like.
 
If the Texans end up with a 6-10 record (as I'm guessing they will) will the Texans do what it takes to get the team in a draft position to draft the QB of the future very early in the 1st round?

I don't care if it's the best QB prospect since John Elway (Ryan Leaf) or if he's the most physically gifted QB to ever come out of the NFL (Vick) or if he can throw the ball 100 yards from one knee (JaMarcus Russell)... if there isn't a guy they like, I hope they don't move up to get one.

I'd be happy with a Cutler, Flacco, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Brees, Kaepernick... hell, give me a Russell Wilson, Nick Foles, Tom Brady, or Tony Romo, if you believe in him.
 
I'll take O'Brien.

If we could turn the clock back 10-12 years, then I would certainly take Belichick and company over about any other option- real or fantasy. However, I don't think Belichick, at this stage in his "career", would be the guy I would want to come in and build the Texans' organization. Ask Miami how things worked out with Jimmy Johnson on the heals of what he did in Dallas. Belichick seized the moment and did great things. However, the idea that he can take a staff that he could put together now and rediscover the magic from New England is pretty foolish, I think.

BB is definitely a top 5 NFL HC and you would take a rookie HC over BB? Very interesting.
 
I'll take O'Brien.

If we could turn the clock back 10-12 years, then I would certainly take Belichick and company over about any other option- real or fantasy. However, I don't think Belichick, at this stage in his "career", would be the guy I would want to come in and build the Texans' organization. Ask Miami how things worked out with Jimmy Johnson on the heals of what he did in Dallas. Belichick seized the moment and did great things. However, the idea that he can take a staff that he could put together now and rediscover the magic from New England is pretty foolish, I think.

Agree. OB was my #1 choice and hopefully he instills the kind of philosophy and work ethic that will make us great one day.
 
If you think about it Mallet's number is 15. 3*5=15 but 3+5=8. See the connection?

also, 15-5-3 =

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also, 15-5-3 =

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JAG in a uniform of a team he no longer plays for? That's a special kind of math there.

15+14+3=32 which is the reverse of 23. That's means AF will have over 2K rushing yds and 1K receiving yds.

:koolaid:
 
Matt is short for Matthew so I am not really mind blown. Ryan is not short for anything

Just saying.
Ryan is short for rhinoceros.

Matt Schaub has 10 letters, as does rhinoceros.

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2Pac has the 7 day theory, we have the Schaub Theory. Or is it Pick 6 degrees of Matt Schaub?
 
If Fitz stays healthy, the "the Texas Hammer" (Mallett) probably doesn't
see the field until the second half of the season - unless the Texans
are 0-fer and the season is toast by week 6 or so..
 
BB is definitely a top 5 NFL HC and you would take a rookie HC over BB? Very interesting.

Using that same logic, BB flopped in Cleveland & never should have gotten another HC job to begin with.

The question, "Is Belichick still hungry?"

If you don't think so, you go with the new guy.
 
I'll take O'Brien.

If we could turn the clock back 10-12 years, then I would certainly take Belichick and company over about any other option- real or fantasy. However, I don't think Belichick, at this stage in his "career", would be the guy I would want to come in and build the Texans' organization. Ask Miami how things worked out with Jimmy Johnson on the heals of what he did in Dallas. Belichick seized the moment and did great things. However, the idea that he can take a staff that he could put together now and rediscover the magic from New England is pretty foolish, I think.
Seriously??

You have a choice between the guy that invented the "Patriot way" (he had that system working in Cleveland by the way before Modell took all the enthusiam out of the team by moving to Baltimore) and has been refining that system for the past decade and a newbie who is, at best, trying to copy Belichick's system down here....

And you'd pick the copycat...??
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that does not compute.
 
Seriously??

You have a choice between the guy that invented the "Patriot way" (he had that system working in Cleveland by the way before Modell took all the enthusiam out of the team by moving to Baltimore) and has been refining that system for the past decade and a newbie who is, at best, trying to copy Belichick's system down here....

And you'd pick the copycat...??
:mcnugget:
that does not compute.

Knowoff brands are generally cheaper, windex vs windox, Arm & Hammer vs Arm & Hatchet, Olay Vs Okay

Less effective but cheaper non the less :kitten:
 
If Fitz stays healthy, the "the Texas Hammer" (Mallett) probably doesn't
see the field until the second half of the season - unless the Texans
are 0-fer and the season is toast by week 6 or so..

Jim Adler may have a say in that nickname. After all he is the smart, tough lawyer..
 
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201 million people just took offense to that.
They shouldn't. Portuguese mix is weird to some who are more familiar with Spanish mixes. Mulatto is weird to those who do not familiar with French mixes. They are just people of mixed race with different cultural histories and regions.
 
Using that same logic, BB flopped in Cleveland & never should have gotten another HC job to begin with.

The question, "Is Belichick still hungry?"

If you don't think so, you go with the new guy.

Hungry isn't even really the question.

They make the playoffs every yr and most yrs atleast the AFC championship game. (Like last yr) and played in the SB 3yrs ago. So BB's desire to win shouldn't even be a question.

I will take a guy with BB's track record as my HC anytime and twice on Sunday's over a rookie HC. I cant believe fans wouldn't want BB as HC. BTW, I think BOB was a great hire.
 
Seriously??

You have a choice between the guy that invented the "Patriot way" (he had that system working in Cleveland by the way before Modell took all the enthusiam out of the team by moving to Baltimore) and has been refining that system for the past decade and a newbie who is, at best, trying to copy Belichick's system down here....

And you'd pick the copycat...??
:mcnugget:
that does not compute.

Not quite sure I see the logic. If formerly serving under a HC means that the best you can hope for is to copy their system, wouldn't that mean that Belichick's system is only a copy of Parcell's system anyway?
 
Seriously??

You have a choice between the guy that invented the "Patriot way" (he had that system working in Cleveland by the way before Modell took all the enthusiam out of the team by moving to Baltimore) and has been refining that system for the past decade and a newbie who is, at best, trying to copy Belichick's system down here....

And you'd pick the copycat...??
:mcnugget:
that does not compute.

Doing what belichick did in New England takes a lot of energy and a lot of collaboration from a special group of people. I don't think it is something he could repeat, at this point. I am not arguing that OB is the better coach... Just that I prefer him at the helm of our situation at this point in belichick and OB's career.
 
This news has me excited. Hopefully he'll start sooner rather than later because I rather see what Mallet can do.
 
Mallet was considered to good enough to be #2 behind Brady in NE for a couple of seasons, so he's definitely good enough to be at least #2 here in Houston with our current QB situation.
 
mallett beat out hoyer for backup job in new england.......hoyer beat out manziel in cleveland.....so mallet is 2 steps above manziel and it only cost us a 7th round pick 2 years from now. winning!!!:koolaid:
 
I still don't think our future QB is currently on our roster. I definitely think he can be better than Keenum

Eh, maybe it has to do with how much I disliked Mallett in College. I don't know. He used to be a whiney biatch on the field. Throw little 5 year old tantrums.

I'd reckon he's grown up since then, so we'll see
 
The down side is to waste your time, like you did with Fitz.

Save your pick (including Savage) and your cap (Fitz's salary) and either make a play for a better name back then in FA, draft a QB early (in the last draft), or just muddy along with a cheap FA vet, Keenum, and Yates.

I had stated that I would rather the Texans to trade away for as many future draft picks S possible to get a guy like Mariota in the next draft.
(Or maybe Petty, if he continues to grow this year.)

Obviously BOB disagrees with this assessment. BOB knows Mallett much better than you or I do and he thought Mallett is worth a 6th rd pick 2 yrs from now.

I happen to agree with him and don't necessarily think Mallett is the future franchise QB. But at such a low cost taking a look at Mallett for a yr, especially when your other options are Fitz/Savage seems like the prudent thing to do.

Mort/McCoy etc... seem to think that Mallett is a future franchise QB. Who knows, but we are soon going to find out about Mallett. It will be nice to finally have a QB that can make all of the throws for a change.
 
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