Silly and simple yet is what NFL QBs are judge by, is it not? Isn't that what Peyton Manning, tom Brady and the other "elite" Qbs are measured by, how many SB wins, how they did in the playoffs, did even lead their team to the playoffs?
There are PLENTY of NFL teams with good-to sub par defense that have won playoff games and even Super Bowls. Doesn't matter how may 4000 yard seasons Matt Schaub had, how many of those yards led the Houston Texans into the playoffs? answer is 0.
Ok so by that logic we need to trade, or cut Dre, Foster, Cushing, and Watt because it doesn't matter how many sacks, tackles, rushing TD's, Receiving yards, or other stats they had, bottom line is... they have no rings, so cut that dead weight
But to more directly answer your question, I would say all of the yards he gained in 2011, and 2012 led the Texans into the playoffs. That much is clear. Anyone that denies Schaub led the Texans to the playoff in 2011, is trolling. Schaub led the team to the playoffs, mentored Yates, and Kubiak game planned around Yates flaws well enough to get a win.
and yet Yates beat the Bengals just like Matt Schaub did, so is that really something to hang your hat on as a starting QB, doing something a 3rd string backup could do?
Nothing detached from that, simple truth.
That is completely detached from reality. The Texans beat the Bengals, not Yates. Team game champ, and it requires all of the players to step up, not just the QB.
Is it something to hang your hat on? You're damn right it is, especially if you consider that your team had never done it before, or had only done it once in franchise history. Have you, or anyone you know ever beaten the Bengals in the playoffs?
That's like not being excited for your daughter after learning her first steps. "Yeah, that's nice sweetheart, but it was only one or two steps. let's not get carried away here"
Really? the stats speak for themselves. 8 years and 1 playoff win, minus the injury year. that being said, it wasn't a great accomplishment beating the Bengals when the 3rd string QB did it the following year, regardless of how Yates got there. Let us take away the year Schaub got hurt, what about the other 6 years? What excuse is there for being mediocre during those years?
There is nothing "hatred" about it, it is simply truth. Matt Schaub has accomplished very little during the regular season and little to nothing during the playoffs...
You think I am bashing Schaub, and maybe I am but it does not go without just cause. The original statement was "Matt Schaub gives Texans best chance to win in 2014" and my opinion is no he doesn't because winning goes beyond the regular season and Schaub has only proven he can do that once in 8 years...
Now being a backup is a whole other conversation...
"Once in 8 years" so no matter the makeup of those teams, the QB should win no matter what? So the previous failures were ALL on Schaub is that what you are saying, but when the team wins it is in spite of Schaub, is that it?
So it's your contention that MS was mediocre for 6 years? That in 2009 when he led the league in passing over guys like Brady, Brees, Manning, it was mediocre? Not to mention all the yards, TD's he put up in that time. You have no credibility after ignoring, and distorting such things.
Love how you cherry pick all of this stuff, blame Schaub for every loss, every failed run at the playoffs, but then even if they finally make a run and beat a pretty good Bengals team that had a serious D and one of the best WR's in the league, in your eyes, it's still not enough. It still was not an accomplishment because it was the Bengals, or because the 3rd string guy did it the PREVIOUS year, which of course is a lie. Schaub led that team to the playoffs, mentored Yates, and Kubiak did his beat to hide Yates in 2011.
I have no agenda, none. Just stating fact. Matt Schaub does not make the Texans better as a starter. Here is some other facts. Matt Schaub's last 16 games, including the 2 playoff games. From Chicago of 2012 till his last game as a starter against St Louis 2013.
If calculations are correct...
Comp: 404
Attempts: 617
TDs : 20
Ints : 19
Total QB rating of 81.3.
the last 16 games Schaub has played like a mediocre to below average NFL QB, and that is including a Division title. This is what HE has done, not the defense or any body else, what Matt Schaub, as an NFL starting QB has done the last 16 games.
You want a QB with those kind of stats playing for your team?
Any other team replaces or cuts a QB with those kind of stats, but Texans don't because of loyalty? Why?
Nice to pick out 16 games and then use that to define Schaub's career. But I know, you will say, but that was then and this is now, to which I would say, well those 16 games you are squawking about were then, and this is now. Why do only negative prior stats matter to you, but not prior positive stats?
Stop with the lies... You do have an agenda, and that is get Schaub off the team at all costs. At least have the stones to admit it.