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bOODRO87
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Ahhh, ok. Respect.
Texian
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Where have we heard that before? I swear someone had posted that exact information somewhere here on the texans talk message board.
Where have we heard that before? I swear someone had posted that exact information somewhere here on the texans talk message board.
I'm not sure...I mean I figured it was a fair assumption to make even without Polian having to say it, though I would post it anyways. Most teams are still trying to sort out their current personnel at this point in the year, and not a whole lot of focus has shifted towards the draft yet. January mocks are for people like us that have nothing else to do in the offseason.
Was browsing some articles and found this quote from one written over the summer by Johnny
So according to Manziel himself he is right at 6ft, I think this is the only actual quote from him confirming he height. Not huge news but interesting as I think a lot of people (including me) were thinking 5"11 looked about right (not that the one inch is groundbreaking)
So according to Manziel himself he is right at 6ft, I think this is the only actual quote from him confirming he height. Not huge news but interesting as I think a lot of people (including me) were thinking 5"11 looked about right (not that the one inch is groundbreaking)
When quoting material from other sites, please include a link to the source.
Oh yessir right away, didn't realize this was 9th grade English. But hey, I will give you a hint, the source is listed right inside the material itself! Also, I know how much you love to underline and bold stuff so I did that for ya' too!
Oh and just in case you were wondering, this post was actually meant to be condensing this time.
Oh yessir right away, didn't realize this was 9th grade English. But hey, I will give you a hint, the source is listed right inside the material itself! Also, I know how much you love to underline and bold stuff so I did that for ya' too!
Oh and just in case you were wondering, this post was actually meant to be condensing this time.
Including the link to a source is something the board asks us to do. He asked you politely to provide such a link when posting quotes from an outside source. No need to be an asshat about it
infantrycak
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Thanks dissack and JB. For our new members, they are correct. We ask everyone to excerpt, not copy entire articles and to provide links to anything which may have a copyright.
Oh and just in case you were wondering, this post was actually meant to be condensing this time.
Maybe you do need that 9th grade English refresher.
Wow even the moderators are hilarious here, what a hoot this place is!
But seriously I was being a jerk because me and disaasks had words in another thread just moments before that post
If you don't like it ... you can take your ass back to that joke of a forum over at HT.com with the rest of the melonheads.
Texian
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Some of them can be jack wagons in their own right but more important the conversation is rarely stifled and you do have freedom of speech within reason. As a result you do need a thick skin at times if you want to play.
Say Watt
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I don't need to get involved in this ludicrous argument, but that is just laughable dude. Please tell me you don't really believe this.
In 4 years starting in the NFL, Sanchez has 68 TDs to 69 INTs. In 2 years starting, Luck has 46 TDs and 27 INTs. Luck bumped his completion percentage up to 60% this year; Sanchez never even sniffed a 60% completion percentage. The career QB rating of Sanchez is just under 72. Luck's is just under 82, and he improved significantly in 2013 posting a QB rating of 87.
Is he elite yet? No. Is he on his way? Most definitely, and you are absolutely blind if you can't see that.
Andrew Luck is Mark Sanchez? :vincepalm:
bOODRO87
Time Consumer
That site used to be decent. I don't know what happened, but it seriously nose dived into an abyss of uneducated rants, no humor, and terrible ideas. It's pretty much a ghost town now.
TT and BRB are very appreciated places.
I don't need to get involved in this ludicrous argument, but that is just laughable dude. Please tell me you don't really believe this.
Let's just say the Jets felt compelled to extend Mark Sanchez because at the time he looked as promising as Luck does now, with the come back victories & game winning drives, & two AFC Championship game appearances.
Answer me this... does Chuck Pagano have a tattoo of Andrew Luck?
Marshall
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Incest, even intellectual incest does that. They've run off anybody who doesn't bow to their ideas and regurgitate them.
Say Watt
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Are you really using the Jets franchise as the basis of your argument? It is one of the most poorly run teams in the NFL. The Jets defense was also a majority of the reason those teams found so much success.
I will give you this. Sanchez did perform pretty well in the playoffs. But seriously, you have to be trolling if you are comparing Andrew Luck to Mark Sanchez.
This is where the Sanchez stuff started.
Kinda got out of hand. But I stand behind this statement. The other stuff, not so much.
htownfan32
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Oh Lord I truly lol'd in public when I saw this
Say Watt
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Fair enough man. That is certainly better than making the complete comparison to Sanchez. I still would never do it and think it is a terrible comparison but based simply on the criteria of got his team to the playoffs and had a few comeback wins, it's not quite so bad.
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
TEXANRED
Texan-American
You would think they would get a HC first then start looking at the draft.
Yeah I am not buying any of this crap that the Browns have already made up their mind on Manziel and are willing to trade up for him...we still have a long way to go and a lot of evaluation to do.
So tonight's games really has me thinking about the appeal of a mobile/dual threat QB and how it applies to Manziel. Kaepernick and Wilson are the two poster boys for mobile QBs in todays NFL, and I must say from a pure QB standpoint I wasn't impressed with either of them tonight. Now was this because they rely so much on their ability to extend/make plays with their legs, or is it because they are both still really young guys who have a lot of learning to do.
Kaep made some outstanding plays with his legs including one really nice long run to set up a touchdown, but when it came down to it he lost the game because of his inability to make the correct throws. Wilson of course won the game, but outside of a couple extended plays with his legs, he didn't overly impress either and the Hawks defense is what won them the game.
So are these guys just products of their system and benefactors of two of the best defenses in the league, or are they really two of the best young QBs in the game? Put either of these guys on our current team and how many wins do they net us? As it stands, are we a playoff team with either of these guys at the helm? And if not, how much better can we expect Manziel to be in the event we do take him first overall? Do you view Manziel as having a higher ceiling than either Wilson or Kaep?
I guess what I am asking is this whole dual threat QB era just a fad and a mirage? Or are these guys really paving the way for players like Manziel to come in and have long successful careers in the NFL?
Kaep made some outstanding plays with his legs including one really nice long run to set up a touchdown, but when it came down to it he lost the game because of his inability to make the correct throws. Wilson of course won the game, but outside of a couple extended plays with his legs, he didn't overly impress either and the Hawks defense is what won them the game.
So are these guys just products of their system and benefactors of two of the best defenses in the league, or are they really two of the best young QBs in the game? Put either of these guys on our current team and how many wins do they net us? As it stands, are we a playoff team with either of these guys at the helm? And if not, how much better can we expect Manziel to be in the event we do take him first overall? Do you view Manziel as having a higher ceiling than either Wilson or Kaep?
I guess what I am asking is this whole dual threat QB era just a fad and a mirage? Or are these guys really paving the way for players like Manziel to come in and have long successful careers in the NFL?
htownfan32
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I think it's too early to say. Wilson and Kaep have done a lot in a short amount of time, but it's still two-three seasons early before we can really start calling this a trend. If Manziel has sustained success in the league I think we can start calling it a trend.
revan
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I tried to ride it out since it is the official Texans board. First one to pop up if you google it. But I got tired of getting infractions. The last one I got was the last straw. This was my post.....
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Originally Posted by aussiedave
Still 22 minutes left on the clock though.
I am rooting for Chiefs, but you had to admire that first drive by the Dolts - as good as you will see.
It's the Dolts, the only thing I admire is how lucky they get every dam time them pieces of bull feces.
Moderator 1 gave me an infraction for bad language and talking smack about another team.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
You can't get away with anything there, unless you are a moderator.
Texian
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revan
Waterboy
And if people don't stay on topic, the thread will get closed.
The HT.com message board is pretty much a 2-14 message board.
LMAO, now that pretty much sums it up.
Mr teX
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It's a fad and the bolded is why. As much as I like Wilson as a qb, He & Kaepernick probably wouldn't have been leading their respective teams anywhere much less the playoffs & SB playing the way they've played as of late. Basically, they'd look like RG3 did this past year if they didn't have their defenses to rely on...i.e. sporadic.
A qb's mobility is meant to be used like table salt. A little bit here and there to extend a play & move the chains is ok & can even enhance things..Too much of it more often than not is bad for the qb's health and for his team's offense. This is why you saw Kaepernick fall off in the 2nd half yesterday. Dude had a 120 yds rushing in the 1st half but in the 2nd half, the Seahawks made a concerted effort to keep him in the pocket. & when he could no longer run he started doing his Matt Schaub impression with all the TO's.
Wilson also had a number of WTF plays where he was running around behind the LOS & did his best Case Keenum impression taking 20 yard sacks & intentional grounding penalties.
Meanwhile, you've got 38 yo Manning destroying defenses to the tune of 400 yds & 2 TD's hardly moving at all. It just goes to show you that the most effective way to play qb in this league will always be standing in the pocket & going through your progressions. The ball moves quicker in the air than on the ground.
The Pencil Neck
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This really isn't anything new. Every few years, you get a new batch of mobile QBs that are going to revolutionize the game: Bobby Douglass, Roger Staubach, Joe Gilliam, John Elway, Steve Young, Randall Cunningham, Michael Vick, Jim Zorn, Kordell Stewart, Donovan McNabb, Vince Young, etc.
If they don't develop some skills as drop-back passers, they usually flame out. But, as you can see from the list above, some of them do develop and over time, may even lose the title of a running QB.
Texian
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In all truthfulness, the HT.com message has become a message board for kids 8-9 years old. That is what Bob McNair wants and that is what that board has become.
bah007
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You guys are using logic, which is something the Browns current FO hasn't shown much of lately.
infantrycak
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That is not what McNair wants.
The history of the MB there is far more convoluted than you have any idea about and McNair plays no role other than the umbrella of he has the power to change it.
Texian
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Several moderators at ht.com message boards have commented that McNair wanted the message board friendly enough for his 8 year old grandson to use and that any kids of that age not be insulted or bullied, so they were instructed to manage the board in this fashion.
ICak was a mod on that forum from the very beginning .... He knows a lot more about the goings on there than most.
infantrycak
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That line didn't come from the Texans.
FYI - by some strange coincidence (let's see if you know which one) we have the same policy here except in the NSZ and NSFW.
To clarify - until about 3 years ago.
Texian
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I don't doubt it, just saying what some mods were saying about McNair, his grandson and what their instructions as a result.
Texian
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So that line could've come from the Texans 3-4 years ago?
We have much the same policies here .... but somehow this has always been the better of the two forums , probably because its not directly tied to the Texans and doesn't get the same amount of traffic .... fewer people = fewer morons.
Every time they go on a ban binge over there , we get the castoffs tho .... ugh.
infantrycak
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No, it came from us over a decade ago.
Texian
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so why the language and bullying often displayed by you?
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Hints?
Texian
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So you don't know what instructions have been issued in the last 3-4 years?
infantrycak
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Our volume, particularly with members, is higher. They get more guest traffic at times being official.
There are all sorts of issues over there. McNair isn't one of them.
Not going to head off on your attempts to distract. Carry on with your "it's McNair" as you will inevitably do anyway no matter how ignorant.
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