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Finally: Romeo Crennel Hired as DC

Who here is planning on watching that game? Hell is anyone of possible draft value involved in the game?
 
I think DB summed it up pretty well. With Crennel's track record there isn't any doubt he know's how to run a defense. That's the only thing I care about.
 
I don't get the flak Crennel is getting about the Shrine game.

He's there to teach College players.

This is not an NFL practice session.
 

All of that sounds similar to criticisms I heard of Leslie Frazier as the Vikings head coach. His practices were reportedly awful, and a complete waste of time. No direction, few drills and soft practices can lead to a very soft team. That report is disconcerting, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he runs his defenses that way.

Crennel has been average at best since leaving New England, and he has been riding that NE early 2000's success in order to stay employed. Yeah he had a decent year here and there, but his post-NE career as a DC/HC has been pretty middling. The inability to make use of practice time would be a good indicator of why he has never coached a top 10 defense since leaving NE. If that report is accurate, then I think we will be looking for a new DC in about 2 years.
 
The biggest rule in an All Star game is to not get hurt, particularly in practice.

In the pros, sure, but if you think these kids play this game not to get hurt I have a bridge to sell you.

The playbooks are about as vanilla as you can get, but the players play 100%. The practices are usually intense too. Primarily oline and dline drills.
 
Who here is planning on watching that game? Hell is anyone of possible draft value involved in the game?

Most of the guys there will either be. drafted or signed as a priority udfa. Not many 1st or 2nd rounders usually but plenty through the rest of. Draft
 
I don't get the flak Crennel is getting about the Shrine game.

He's there to teach College players.

This is not an NFL practice session.

From the reports it doesn't sound like he is teaching them much of anything, or at all. Also this would be a great opportunity to find guys who fit his system in both size, temperament and knowledge. An opportunity that he seems to be wasting in spectacular fashion. Finally a bunch of the players at these games are hoping to use them as an opportunity to show they are capable of playing/practicing at an NFL level and if the reports are correct Crennel isn't giving them much of a chance to do so.

If I was a player of agent of a player I would not be happy with Crennel.
 
Who here is planning on watching that game? Hell is anyone of possible draft value involved in the game?
100 players from 2013 EWSG were drafted or signed last year. Zac Stacy, Terron Armstead, Sio Moore, Shamarko Thomas some recognizable names.

I don't get the flak Crennel is getting about the Shrine game.

He's there to teach College players.

This is not an NFL practice session.
Agents want their kids in pads smashing mouths building names for themselves -- more of that "wow" chatter comes from the practices/drills than the games. Media wants the same so they have something to write about before leaving. Players want to experience NFL like practices to learn what will be expected of them.

First practice no pads for RAC's team. Practices are late in the day, which pisses off the writers. Then it sounds like there's a lot of standing around going on. RAC may have a different idea of how to prepare these kids.
 
From the reports it doesn't sound like he is teaching them much of anything, or at all. Also this would be a great opportunity to find guys who fit his system in both size, temperament and knowledge. An opportunity that he seems to be wasting in spectacular fashion. Finally a bunch of the players at these games are hoping to use them as an opportunity to show they are capable of playing/practicing at an NFL level and if the reports are correct Crennel isn't giving them much of a chance to do so.

If I was a player of agent of a player I would not be happy with Crennel.

Yeah, if I was a college player I'd be pissed too.

I'm not worried about how he practices at a college all star game being any kind of indication of what kind of DC he will be.
 
I know it's only bleacherreport.com but this is not a good sign.

Alright guys, let's chill on the exaggerations. For one, that is a college "all-star" game. He isn't teaching them anything in the week or two that will override all that they have practiced and done all year long. Just isn't happening.

NFL practices are much different and he obviously wouldn't conduct them the same way. For one, coaches gather together to outline their practices and of course the final word on how it is organized falls upon O'Brien. You are trying to read way too much into a college practice. For the kids, yeah, they can be upset or disappointed since there were scouts and such watching the practices so they could show out but for Crennel it means little to nothing.
 
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Since '93 Romeo Crennel has been HC, DC, or DL coach for 19 squads. Not a single DE has had double digit sacks.
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Who's going to be the one who has to tell JJ he "can't" or "won't" anymore? :backsout:

Yeah, good luck with that.
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I hope he took the job subject to the understanding that he could form
a great defense spearheaded by JJ & Jadeveon ?
 
I hope he took the job subject to the understanding that he could form
a great defense spearheaded by JJ & Jadeveon ?

I hope you realize that Crennel coaches a 3-4 defense and after 20 years coaching not a single DE has had double digit sacks for him. I don't think Clowney is an option with this hire.
 
I hope you realize that Crennel coaches a 3-4 defense and after 20 years coaching not a single DE has had double digit sacks for him. I don't think Clowney is an option with this hire.

Crennel NORMALLY coaches the 3-4.

But he's also coached the 4-3.

I expect him to adapt to the players he's got.
 
I hope you realize that Crennel coaches a 3-4 defense and after 20 years coaching not a single DE has had double digit sacks for him. I don't think Clowney is an option with this hire.

Why wouldn't the best defensive prospect in the draft be an option?
 
Crennel NORMALLY coaches the 3-4.

But he's also coached the 4-3.

I expect him to adapt to the players he's got.

This team played in a 3-4 last year. The only difference will be the type of scheme they utilize. I don't see them drafting a guy first overall that will make the DC switch schemes. More likely, they will draft an OLB in the 2nd or 3rd round.

Why wouldn't the best defensive prospect in the draft be an option?

Because Clowney doesn't fit into the 3-4 scheme Crennel usually runs.

Some think that Crennel can only coach a 2 gap 3-4 and uses DE to tie up blockers only.

Well, I simply don't think they will draft a guy 1.1 that doesn't fit into the defensive scheme of the DC. If the Texans wanted to run a 4-3 I think they would have hired a different coach for their defense.
 
Crennel NORMALLY coaches the 3-4.

But he's also coached the 4-3.

I expect him to adapt to the players he's got.
Crennel had better go with a 4-3, one-gap alingment even if we don't draft Clowney, because if he wastes JJ on the a 3-4, two-gap scheme he needs to be canned. JJ is far too valuable as a pass-rusher to be wasted as a DLine guy who's biggest task is to tie-up offensive lineman to effectively run interference for LBs. I would certainly think Crennel knows the value of a talent like JJ.
 
This team played in a 3-4 last year. The only difference will be the type of scheme they utilize. I don't see them drafting a guy first overall that will make the DC switch schemes. More likely, they will draft an OLB in the 2nd or 3rd round.



Because Clowney doesn't fit into the 3-4 scheme Crennel usually runs.



Well, I simply don't think they will draft a guy 1.1 that doesn't fit into the defensive scheme of the DC. If the Texans wanted to run a 4-3 I think they would have hired a different coach for their defense.

Aldon Smith has thrived in a similar 2-gap SF defense as an OLB and Clowney is similarly built. I don't think a defense exists that Clowney wouldn't thrive in.
 
Aldon Smith has thrived in a similar 2-gap SF defense as an OLB and Clowney is similarly built. I don't think a defense exists that Clowney wouldn't thrive in.

I'm not sure I could get behind drafting a guy 1.1 to make him change positions (4-3 DE to 3-4 OLB). If they draft Clowney I hope they utilize a 4-3 defense, I just don't think they will draft him considering Crennel prefers the 3-4.
 
This team played in a 3-4 last year. The only difference will be the type of scheme they utilize. I don't see them drafting a guy first overall that will make the DC switch schemes. More likely, they will draft an OLB in the 2nd or 3rd round.

We actually played more of a 5-2 hybrid and when we went to nickel, we usually shifted to 4-3. The main issue is whether our DL was being asked to shoot the gaps or play 2 gaps and our D was about shooting gaps. Most of Crennel's DLs have been 2 gap, read and react types of defenses.

BUT.

Crennel has coached both 4-3 and 3-4 defenses although he tends toward 3-4. I don't expect us to go Clowney but if we do, it's because Crennel thinks he can put something together that gets the best out of both JJ and Clowney.
 
We actually played more of a 5-2 hybrid and when we went to nickel, we usually shifted to 4-3. The main issue is whether our DL was being asked to shoot the gaps or play 2 gaps and our D was about shooting gaps. Most of Crennel's DLs have been 2 gap, read and react types of defenses.

BUT.

Crennel has coached both 4-3 and 3-4 defenses although he tends toward 3-4. I don't expect us to go Clowney but if we do, it's because Crennel thinks he can put something together that gets the best out of both JJ and Clowney.

I agree and I think it would be the best thing for the defense. Watt & Clowney would cause havoc for opposing QB's. I don't see it happening though.
 
I'd be surprised if O'Brien goes for anything other than a QB with the 1st pick. I know there's no Luck in this draft, but TB, JFF, or BB have the potential to develop into a franchise QB like Rodgers or Brees. And, I think O'Brien can't wait to get his hands on one of them to develop.

What I think Crennel will be looking for in the draft is a big NT, a DE to replace Antonio, and an OLB to move Reed inside. I just hope he doesn't try to change Watt and waste his talents. They need to extend Watt this year so he doesn't go in to FA next year. If he feels Crennel isn't going to use him the right way, he's gone!
 
They need to extend Watt this year so he doesn't go in to FA next year.

JJ is not sniffing FA for years. His rookie contract goes through 2014. 2015 is an optional 5th year under the CBA. After that he can be tagged twice before it gets insanely expensive. That is four more seasons where the Texans have all the leverage.
 
JJ is not sniffing FA for years. His rookie contract goes through 2014. 2015 is an optional 5th year under the CBA. After that he can be tagged twice before it gets insanely expensive. That is four more seasons where the Texans have all the leverage.

It is highly unlikely that the player would hold out through all that versus taking long term contract, since JJ should have enough time for 2-3 more contracts, which would yield greater monetary value...JJ should be here to stay.
 
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