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1st Round- DeAndre Hopkins WR Texans

This is a great pick. IMO he is the most pro ready WR in the draft. Runs good routes, knows how to get open...ect. He also was a terror his junior year playing against top talent. If you don't like the pick I suggest you watch him playing against LSU, they could not stop him. I recall that he gave Eric Reid, picked #18, fits. As for the trashed room at the combine, I would bet money that the room was trashed after he left. He left early and the Texans surely did their due diligence before making the draft pick.
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dwB5J11rmdU
 
Some video of Hopkins in 5 games of 2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTJjRlGOCjk

Also the LSU game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCVWGxNjF_k

He killed LSU in that game. It took about 1 quarter for them to figure out that they didn't have a player on their sideline that could cover Hopkins. And they paid for it.

Another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVWm9pNiXYY

Another showing him just catch one handers off a machine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwB5J11rmdU. Doesn't really mean much but it is kind of cool.
 
Maddict5 said:
bingo

hes denied it.. don't you think the Texans would've investigated and the fact they took him means they believe him so no its a non issue for any logical fan
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Eh, I wouldn't trust the Texans private investigation division after the whole Cushing fiasco.
 
ATXtexanfan said:
Your probably right. Just thought Hopkins if others cleared out first ya know. Man what I would give for some explosion at WR. We lack gamebreakers offensively.
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You have to remember all the way back years ago, the Detroit Lions chose wide receiver Charles Rogers instead of wide receiver Andre Johnson. They had Charles Rogers with the more explosive dynamic features, and Andre Johnson with the smoother hands and more fluid route running.

Call me a little bit biased, but I think we got the best receiver in the year's draft
 
GP said:
You have to remember all the way back years ago, the Detroit Lions chose wide receiver Charles Rogers instead of wide receiver Andre Johnson. They had Charles Rogers with the more explosive dynamic features, and Andre Johnson with the smoother hands and more fluid route running.
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You have it backwards. Rogers was considered the more polished receiver and Johnson the better athlete (though Rogers was considered an elite athlete himself). AJ has worked hard to develop his WR skills over the course of his career.
 
Corrosion said:
I wonder if they take a shot at another WR between now and the 4th.
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They have way too many needs to go double dipping at WR tomorrow. There are probably some projects that would be avialable with their late 6th rounders. Or maybe just wait for UDFAs.
 
A lot of comparisons going around so I'll throw out another one. I think he matches up very well physically with Hakeem Nicks. Neither guy is a burner or taller than 6'1, both physical with huge hands and all around similar athleticism. Hopefully he can have the same kind of early impact as Nicks who was picked in the same area of the draft (29th pick in 2009). I think I would have preferred Hunter but I trust the front office and can't wait to see the players we get tomorrow. Lastly I have to believe they were positive he didn't have anything to do with that restroom business.
 
For a slow guy, he sure does get deep.

Hopkins (6-1, 214) could be used to stretch the defense vertically in Gary Kubiak's offensive scheme. Last season, Hopkins made 20 catches of at least 25 yards including at least five of 58 yards or longer. Hopkins ranked second in FBS with a school-record 18 touchdowns and led the ACC in receiving yards with 1,405 receiving yards.
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(the slow comment was sarcasm)
 
Lucky said:
You have it backwards. Rogers was considered the more polished receiver and Johnson the better athlete (though Rogers was considered an elite athlete himself). AJ has worked hard to develop his WR skills over the course of his career.
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Yep. From TC:


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfldraft/columnist?id=1519382
Thursday, March 6, 2003
Updated: March 7, 12:03 PM ET

Johnson's size, speed impresses scouts
By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com

If the name of the position was wide athlete and not wide receiver, University of Miami star Andre Johnson certainly would have solidified his status as a premier draft choice on Thursday, as Hurricanes players staged their on-campus workout for NFL scouts.

The chances are still excellent that Johnson will be among the initial 10 prospects selected on April 26 but, during the workout, his receiving skills were clearly secondary to his overall athletic prowess.


Johnson's size and speed should make him a top 10 pick during next month's draft.
"I wouldn't label him a 'body catcher,' because he does grab the ball out in front of him, but he doesn't look really that natural (as a receiver)," said one personnel director. "He doesn't have those real, soft hands, you know?" One college scouting director termed Johnson's showing in the receiving drills on Thursday "a little average."

There was nothing ordinary, however, about Johnson's performance in the athletic drills. While he dropped the first pass thrown to him in the position-specific work, there were no bobbles in the drills that preceded it.

Johnson was timed at between 4.42-4.48, according to three scouts, in his first 40-yard dash. On the second, he ran between 4.37-4.40, scouts said. He also recorded a 41-inch vertical jump, a long jump of 10-feet, 9-inches, and a time of about 4.10 seconds in the short shuttle drill.

Notable was that Johnson, universally assessed as one of the top two wide receivers in this year's draft pool, was measured at 6-feet-1 7/8 and at 224 pounds. That is one-eighth of an inch shorter, and six pounds lighter, than he was at the recent NFL combine workouts.

The other highly-regarded wide receiver this year, Michigan State standout Charles Rogers, is scheduled to work out for scouts on March 18.

The explosive Johnson had 52 receptions for 1,092 yards and nine scores in 2002. Over the last two seasons, he averaged 19.9 yards per catch and also scored 19 touchdowns.

Not surprisingly, the Miami workout was attended by representatives from virtually every team in the league. The Hurricanes had five players chosen in the first round in 2002. That will be difficult to match this year, but the school figures to have at least three first-round selections.
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Its creepy that GP and I agree on WRs two years in a row (Posey last year).

I am stoked about this pick, almost as much as I was with the Watt pick. Hopkins is a great receiver, we are pretty lucky.
 
steelbtexan said:
Although I like (Crapper) Hopkins, I would've rather Rick/Gary taken a chance on greatness on a guy like Patterson/Hunter. Or go defense and take an impact defensive guy like Short and take one of the other WR's like Swope/Rodgers in the 2nd rd.

Gary decided to play it safe. (Not suprising) Gigem LOL

I guess AJ's words carry some weight in Gary's world.
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I'm going on record that Smith will trade up in the 3rd to get Swopes if he's still on the board. I think that young man will be a star in the NFL.
 
Hope Hopkins was right pick for us. What this year's first round pick can tell us some what of how Rick and scouting staff were successful in evaluating WR. Only one WR (Austin) was drafted prior to our pick and the rest of talented WRs were still available, we can see how this pick turns out in a few years from now.
 
rmartin65 said:
Its creepy that GP and I agree on WRs two years in a row (Posey last year).

I am stoked about this pick, almost as much as I was with the Watt pick. Hopkins is a great receiver, we are pretty lucky.
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Hopkins, Dre, and eventually Posey mid-season? Sounds like a nice passing attack to me.

Now grab another TE and some O-line and we'll be championship bound :)

Revamped running game (with a real FB), revamped passing attack...
And hopefully some nice defensive depth.

We have one 2nd rounder and two third rounders.

I expect O-line, ILB depth, and Safety.
 
Lucky said:
You have it backwards. Rogers was considered the more polished receiver and Johnson the better athlete (though Rogers was considered an elite athlete himself). AJ has worked hard to develop his WR skills over the course of his career.
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No, I don't have it backwards.

But thanks anyways.
 
SAMURAITEXAN said:
Hope Hopkins was right pick for us. What this year's first round pick can tell us some what of how Rick and scouting staff were successful in evaluating WR. Only one WR (Austin) was drafted prior to our pick and the rest of talented WRs were still available, we can see how this pick turns out in a few years from now.
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I feel better about this pick than any first rounder since .... hell, maybe AJ.
 
rmartin65 said:
Its creepy that GP and I agree on WRs two years in a row (Posey last year).

I am stoked about this pick, almost as much as I was with the Watt pick. Hopkins is a great receiver, we are pretty lucky.
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I wasn't happy with the Posey pick. I can't remember if you were or not.

For the record, I didn't like the Posey pick on draft day...warmed to it only after having a lot of posters here show me reasons why it was a decent pick...and then I ended up watching Posey play in some reg season action (and thought, "Gee, this guy is better than Keyshawn Martin.").

So, I can't really say that I have a good track record judging draft day WRs for us. LOL.
 
Detroit chose Rogers for really one reason: Michigan State product.

It was an emotional pick. The Kipers of the Draft World weren't all that high on Rogers (pun intended).

Lions should have picked AJ, and they blew it.

Rogers was not a phenom. He was thin, questionable hands, and yeah...maybe FASTER than AJ, but I don't recall anybody cursing the Texans for passing on Rogers. It was more like "Whew! They chose ROGERS?!?!"

A true gift.
 
TexansSeminole said:
Some video of Hopkins in 5 games of 2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTJjRlGOCjk

Also the LSU game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCVWGxNjF_k

He killed LSU in that game. It took about 1 quarter for them to figure out that they didn't have a player on their sideline that could cover Hopkins. And they paid for it.

Another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVWm9pNiXYY

Another showing him just catch one handers off a machine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwB5J11rmdU. Doesn't really mean much but it is kind of cool.
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He bursts off the LOS at the snap. That's what stands out to me, he times the snap very well. I think he beats that LOS jam by a CB pretty well.

I like how he fights for the ball, too. He might draw some P.I. calls, though, because he's doing some grabbing and shoving a lot...but to his credit, his CB is doing the same thing and so he's just fighting for the ball there.

Good clips, btw. Thanks for posting.
 
I like this pick. I didn't know much about him, but I looked up his stats and watched his highlight reel on YouTube. There's promise.
 
GP said:
I wasn't happy with the Posey pick. I can't remember if you were or not.

For the record, I didn't like the Posey pick on draft day...warmed to it only after having a lot of posters here show me reasons why it was a decent pick...and then I ended up watching Posey play in some reg season action (and thought, "Gee, this guy is better than Keyshawn Martin.").

So, I can't really say that I have a good track record judging draft day WRs for us. LOL.
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I was with you, and had a similar change in opinion. I was never "on the bandwagon", but had started to warm up to him before the injury. That said, I still had my doubts.

We are right with Nuke though. This kid is the real deal. I am predicting around 1,000 yards and 7 TDs this year. Book it.
 
Lucky said:
They have way too many needs to go double dipping at WR tomorrow. There are probably some projects that would be avialable with their late 6th rounders. Or maybe just wait for UDFAs.
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You are probably right , When I took Dobson in the 3rd I regretted the decision for the rest of the draft because I never could nail down a good fit at OT and that pick is where I should have done it.




htownfan32 said:
We have one 2nd rounder and two third rounders.

I expect O-line, ILB depth, and Safety.
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I think they have to take a defensive lineman with one of those , you look at the lack of (quality) depth the fact that they lost a couple players there to FA (or chose not to resign them). They are woefully thin at DE/NT.

They are also really thin at OLB with Barwin moving on - Reed , Mercilus and Braman. Thats all they have currently on the roster at the position.

I think its DL , OLB and OL with those next three choices (no specific order) - quite a few ILB prospects who will be available in the 4th and beyond while the Ed Reed signing pushes safety down the priority list.
 
(on his initial reaction when the Texans called him) “You know it was like a moment, it was, I was honored to be called to be a part of the Houston Texans. It was a great moment.”

(on if he had an idea that Houston is where he would end up) “Kind of. I’ve been hearing the buzz, that Andre Johnson needed another wide receiver on the other side of him. When he said that, I was like, ‘I’m that guy. I can help this team win a championship.’ They have great management and I feel like that was the right move.”

(on playing with Andre Johnson) “Oh man, it’s going to be an honor. It’s going to be great learning from a veteran.”

(on being the second receiver drafted from the Texans) “What does it mean to me? I’ve got big shoes to fill and I’m going to go out there and give them my all for us to win a championship.”

(on his expectations coming into season) “I really don’t have expectations, personally. I want to win a championship. That’s my expectation, to come in and help us win a championship.”

(on if he feels he has a chance to earn a starting spot) “Yeah, without a doubt I feel like I do.”

(on if he prides himself on being able to show up at big moments in the game) “Yeah it is. I’m a level-headed player. I don’t really get too emotional to any game because I feel like that would take me out of it. So big moments, my teammates trust me, they come to me, and it’s what I do being a football player.”

(on why he was so consistent at Clemson) “Practice and heart; practicing like it’s the game, making everything look the same. Going out and practicing and practicing hard.”

(on the story of his nickname ‘Nuke’) “Yes, when I was young my mother said that’s the only brand of pacifier I would suck on, so I guess it was kind of clever for her to call me Nuke.”

(on his physical style of play) “That’s natural to me, I feel like. I played defense in high school. When the ball is in the air I feel like it’s mine. No matter who it is or the situation, I feel like I have to come down with the ball or at least knock it away. I’m always trying to get a hand on the ball, and I have a pretty good vertical. I’m able to get the ball at the high point.”

(on if the Texans asked for his side of the hotel room story from the Combine) “No, they didn’t because they knew I didn’t have anything to do with it so I didn’t hear a call from too many teams about it because it was cleared two months ago.”

(on his basketball skills helping his football career) “It has a little bit of credit but it’s a big difference when you’re out there and you’re getting hit and you have to work to catch the ball. But it’s kind of similar when the ball’s up in the air for a rebound. You always have to be on your toes to go up to the ball; same situation as football as a wide receiver. I’m always trying to get the ball at the highest point like a rebound.”

(on who he feels his game compares most to) “I don’t really feel like I compare to anybody. I feel like I’m a unique player. I feel like I’m my own. I feel like I have some different things to bring.”

(on his thoughts on Andre Johnson) “He’s a great wide receiver. He’s a physical guy. He goes out there. I feel like we have the same mentality. When the ball is in the air, it’s ours. He plays with a great mentality, a competitive side that everybody should play with. He’s a guy that I’ve looked up to since he’s been in the NFL.”

(on what he knows about the Houston Texans) “I know they have a good team, all around, a pretty solid team—a championship-contending team. That’s all I really know. Every year they’re getting better, they’re improving. So, I’m happy to walk into a situation where they’re getting better.”

(on what he knows about the city of Houston outside of football) “I do not know anything about the city of Houston, but it’s going to be great flying in and getting to see everything for the first time.”

(on who he’s watching the draft with) “Family and friends, just the local people.”
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GP said:
I wasn't happy with the Posey pick. I can't remember if you were or not.

For the record, I didn't like the Posey pick on draft day...warmed to it only after having a lot of posters here show me reasons why it was a decent pick...and then I ended up watching Posey play in some reg season action (and thought, "Gee, this guy is better than Keyshawn Martin.").

So, I can't really say that I have a good track record judging draft day WRs for us. LOL.
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:corrosion:
 
I love this pick. Hopkins has a very high floor and high ceiling. He's got all the physical attributes and experience. Excellent pick.
 
Corrosion said:
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Meh. What can I say? He practically had no senior season, was serving a suspension over petty stuff (but still got sidelined regardless), it's not like we had a lot of tape on him in his final year of football at Ohio State.

I want rounds 1, 2 and 3 to be solid decision making. My gripe was that it appeared to be, perhaps, a wild shot in the dark. A reach.
 
GP said:
He bursts off the LOS at the snap. That's what stands out to me, he times the snap very well. I think he beats that LOS jam by a CB pretty well.

I like how he fights for the ball, too. He might draw some P.I. calls, though, because he's doing some grabbing and shoving a lot...but to his credit, his CB is doing the same thing and so he's just fighting for the ball there.

Good clips, btw. Thanks for posting.
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Yea. The LSU game got me excited. Pure dominance and got them in range to win the game.

Btw, most of the grabbing and shoving came after the DBs were grabbing and holding him. Hence why the PIs were called in his favor. Herp
 
Awesome pick. I was hoping they'd get one of the three receivers on my list, Hopkins being one of them. Hope we fill the rest of our needs now tomorrow and Saturday.
 
GP said:
Meh. What can I say? He practically had no senior season, was serving a suspension over petty stuff (but still got sidelined regardless), it's not like we had a lot of tape on him in his final year of football at Ohio State.

I want rounds 1, 2 and 3 to be solid decision making. My gripe was that it appeared to be, perhaps, a wild shot in the dark. A reach.
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You dont have to explain .... I was just giving you a hard time. I think I was the only one on the Posey bandwagon before the draft .... Sure has to be a heartbreaker for him to get injured after coming on strong to end the season.
 
GP said:
He bursts off the LOS at the snap. That's what stands out to me, he times the snap very well. I think he beats that LOS jam by a CB pretty well.

I like how he fights for the ball, too. He might draw some P.I. calls, though, because he's doing some grabbing and shoving a lot...but to his credit, his CB is doing the same thing and so he's just fighting for the ball there.

Good clips, btw. Thanks for posting.
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No problem.

He played well against Xavier Rhodes, and Rhodes is a good press cover corner. He is a strong receiver and has pretty long arms.

What I like is how he attacks the ball in the air. He fights hard for it every time it is thrown his way, like you said. There is one play in those clips where he is catching the ball with one arm and holding off a defender with the other. You've got to have some pretty strong hands to catch a ball in that type of situation.

He shows good change of direction to make catches off quick reactions and he is good running after the catch too. He is kind of deceiving when he runs after the catch, because it isn't so much that he is fast but that he makes good cuts, especially that initial cut after the catch, and he is strong.

He was dependable at Clemson. Dependability is exactly what we need out of a receiver right now considering our lack of depth.
 
GP said:
Meh. What can I say? He practically had no senior season, was serving a suspension over petty stuff (but still got sidelined regardless), it's not like we had a lot of tape on him in his final year of football at Ohio State.

I want rounds 1, 2 and 3 to be solid decision making. My gripe was that it appeared to be, perhaps, a wild shot in the dark. A reach.
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Why are you reacting like Posey was some kind of dangerous weapon for the Texans and you completely blew it? Neither Posey or Martin were anything near spectacular as rookies. Posey blowing out his Achilles is about as bad as it gets. I don't see him on the roster after 2014 or 15. Bad luck, but it is what it is.
 
The first benefit if picking Hopkins is that he is bust proof. I keep reading that Hunter and Patterson have the most upside, but they have risks. Hopkins has almost no negatives. Then you look at his wingspan, hands, physicality, and big play ability, it's apparent that he has just as much upside as any receiver in this draft. Excellent pick.
 
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