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What's the next move for the Texans?

Free Agent WRs per RotoWorld
not much high quality left to choose from

Dwayne Bowe (Signed five-year, $56M deal with KC)
Mike Wallace (Signed five-year, $60M deal with MIA)
Greg Jennings (Signed five-year, $47.5M deal with MIN)
Wes Welker (Signed two-year, $12M deal with DEN)
Danny Amendola (Signed five-year, $27.7M deal with NE)
Brian Hartline (Signed five-year, $30.775M deal with MIA)
Brandon Lloyd
Julian Edelman
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Laurent Robinson
Donnie Avery (Signed three-year, $8.55M deal with KC)
Jerome Simpson (Signed one-year, $2.1M deal with MIN)
Kevin Ogletree (Signed two-year, $2.6M deal with TB)
Randy Moss
Braylon Edwards
Austin Collie
Donald Jones (Signed three-year, $4.155M deal with NE)
Josh Cribbs
Domenik Hixon
Ramses Barden
Jabar Gaffney
Brandon Stokley
Brandon Gibson (Signed three-year, $9.755M deal with MIA)
Steve Breaston
Titus Young
Mohamed Massaquoi
David Nelson
Kevin Walter
Mark Clayton
Donte' Stallworth
Brandon Tate

Off of that list, Give me, one of these guys should be available for the vet min

1. Heyward-Bey
2. Hixon
3.Laurent Robinson
4. Edelmann
5. Ramses-Barden
6. Collie
 
Off of that list, Give me, one of these guys should be available for the vet min

1. Heyward-Bey
2. Hixon
3.Laurent Robinson
4. Edelmann
5. Ramses-Barden
6. Collie

I like Collie, but the dude is Mr. Concussion. I think he gets an automatic concussion just from putting his helmet on every game.
 
I want the Texans to take Justin Hunter in the 1st . In the 2nd a NG or RT in the 3rd the one you didn't pick and an ILB unless a safety is there .

A guy like Nelson is just for depth .

This would be my draft plan.

The Texans needs should fall in line with BPA. The draft is deep at WR,NT,S,RT, ILB/OLB
 
I like Collie, but the dude is Mr. Concussion. I think he gets an automatic concussion just from putting his helmet on every game.

Yep,

But if Hunter were drafted and you got 10-12 games out of Collie, plus drafted another WR late the WR corps would be solidified.

AJ/Hunter with Collie in the slot would give the Texans the best WR corps they'had since their inception.
 
Counting on Crick and Mitchell to play the NT the whole season?! Yikes! Good luck stopping the run up the middle. Texans absolutely need to find someone better than these two either through the FA or draft.
 
I just want to point out the difference between a restructured contract and an extension. A restructure is taking an existing contract, and manuevering the $$$ around to alter the cap hit in that year. That's what they did with Smith in 2011 when the Texans created cap space to sign Joseph and Manning. An extension is replacing an existing contract with a longer term deal, while still being liable for whatever bonus allocation remains on the existing contract.

Smith is in the final year of his contract. So the only restructuring that could take place would be if he were to accept a salary reduction for his current $6 million. Fat chance. An extension would allow the Texans to reduce Smith's $6 million salary, and replace it with a larger signing bonus that could be amortized over the length of the new contract.

What would it take for Smith to sign an extension in 2013? He's currently looking at $6 million in salary. A bonus of $7.5 million in a 3 year deal, would give Antonio a $2.44 million raise ($7.5 million bonus + $940k vet minimum - ($6 million salary)). It would reduce the 2013 cap hit on Smith by a little more than $2.5 million. Which might be enough space for the Texans to fill a couple holes with low end vet contracts.

Extending Smith would be a tough call, because it would make him a tough cut in 2014. The question is, what are the Texans willing to do to win in 2013? Really, I don't see a lot of alternatives.

Good point. Then I wouldn't mind extending him. I don't see him being cut in 2014.
 
Off of that list, Give me, one of these guys should be available for the vet min

1. Heyward-Bey
2. Hixon
3.Laurent Robinson
4. Edelmann
5. Ramses-Barden
6. Collie

collie is definitely worth a look . . . teams will shy away because of the concussions, but the way the game is played today, they can't hit him anymore anyway . . . he's cleared to play and wants to play . . . could be a steal even on a 1 yr deal.

i think hixon is solid . . . i'd also give bey, edwards, robinson, breaston and barden a tryout.
 
Counting on Crick and Mitchell to play the NT the whole season?! Yikes! Good luck stopping the run up the middle. Texans absolutely need to find someone better than these two either through the FA or draft.

i believe they can find a solid rotation player to platoon with mitchell w/ 1 of our 3rd's . . . crick should stay in the de rotation.
 
Hixon has a track record of injury: 2 ACL, a hamstring, a high- ankle sprain, at least one concussion that I know of.

Big question mark for me.

Add that to the fact the Giants kept drafting receivers (3rd and 2nd rd the last two years), I think it's best to look for another option.
 
Hixon has a track record of injury: 2 ACL, a hamstring, a high- ankle sprain, at least one concussion that I know of.

Big question mark for me.

Add that to the fact the Giants kept drafting receivers (3rd and 2nd rd the last two years), I think it's best to look for another option.

but we are looking for cheap . . . reports are he's healthy now and played well in relief of hicks when manning wasn't sucking up the place.
 
but we are looking for cheap . . . reports are he's healthy now and played well in relief of hicks when manning wasn't sucking up the place.

It can get expensive really quick soon as he gets into the tub.
He can't help if he can't be on the field.
 
It can get expensive really quick soon as he gets into the tub.
He can't help if he can't be on the field.

oh i hear ya . . . i can only read reports on players too . . . i'd have a full fledged tryout going on w/ physicals . . . ;)

any fa wr we get now is likely a short term answer unless we get lucky . . . that's due to cap and availability.
 
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Like who?

hard to say exactly since what wade is looking for in a NT and what the rest of the world looks for in a NT are different . . . plus, hard to say who will drop, but guys like akeem spence and jordan hill should be available.
 
hard to say exactly since what wade is looking for in a NT and what the rest of the world looks for in a NT are different . . . plus, hard to say who will drop, but guys like akeem spence and jordan hill should be available.

Man I hope like hell Wade isn't thinking like that. We have got to strengthen the middle of our defense and just bringing Cushing back and adding trash around him isn't going to do that.
 
I've seen the Texans roll into the draft with absolute needs for starters in positions on both offense and defense, hell I think Mercilus was the first top pick of the Texans NOT to start primarily in his position, in awhile. I think if they draft a wideout in the first they are going to expect major contributions from him and that player will force himself into the lineup at some point early in the season.

If you read the news clippings (Texans won't rule out drafting QB, This Evan Silva Tweet) you'd think the Texans are drafting offense fairly high this year. So defense requires a little more speculation than the offense.
 
Man I hope like hell Wade isn't thinking like that. We have got to strengthen the middle of our defense and just bringing Cushing back and adding trash around him isn't going to do that.

Could you imagine a hoss in front of Cush giving him MORE freedom and protection. OMG!!!!
 
I would like to see them sign a bigger vet WR like Braylon Edwards.

I would like to see them get Andre Smith at RT for a good price. Even though he is a moron, he could improve our running game. And getting him 2nd hand is like buying a used car that has already lost its newness value.

Alan Branch to help solidify Nose Tackle.

In the draft they need to come away with a starter ILB like Minter, and a young stud WR who can work his way into the lineup like a Justin Hunter.
 
Man I hope like hell Wade isn't thinking like that. We have got to strengthen the middle of our defense and just bringing Cushing back and adding trash around him isn't going to do that.

That's what I have been saying. It's recipe for disaster imo. Cushing will likely re-injure himself.
 
i believe they can find a solid rotation player to platoon with mitchell w/ 1 of our 3rd's . . . crick should stay in the de rotation.

Jj Watt
Antonio Smith
Tim Jamison
Jared Crick
Shaun Cody
Eric Mitchell.



That's already too many people on the roster for a 3-4 defense. Get rid of one of them so we can add another safety/LB/TE/WR/DB...... someone with speed who can play special teams.
 
Jj Watt
Antonio Smith
Tim Jamison
Jared Crick
Shaun Cody
Eric Mitchell.



That's already too many people on the roster for a 3-4 defense. Get rid of one of them so we can add another safety/LB/TE/WR/DB...... someone with speed who can play special teams.

Strike Cody, he's not on the roster and when it all shakes out Jamison might not be either though he has been a fairly solid filler.
 
What's the next move for the Texans?

Minor tweaks to the current roster and "the Draft", obviously.

As far as any major trades or FA acquisitions? They're more than likely not gonna happen. Or the chances are slim and none. BTW, Slim packed his bags and left town.
 
But Cushing didn't get injured because of it. Just saying.

No but if teams continue to pound the middle (our week spot) like they did last year how long do you think he will be able take it? That's exactly why the other ILB's were a mash unit after the halfway point last season.

68% of all runs against our D were between the guards. That was the most in the NFL. And that was with Cody who is better against the run than Mitchell not here anymore.
 
With such little if not no interest from other teams I still think Eric Winston will end up back here 1 or 2 year deal after June 1st.
 
Thought I heard he was in for a visit with the fins. Can anyone verify this or know what happened?

I've read that he's asking too much money. Which means the odds of him coming back here are slim. Unless he drastically lowers his price
 
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Texans will sign more veteran FAs who they can get with affordable deals. I expect an OT, ILB, WR and perhaps a NT.

I don't think this will happen, but if NT Casey Hampton would do a deal close 2 minimum 2 stay home, I think Texans should check him out.

Hampton would have to be in good shape and agree to be part of the rotation with Earl Mitchell. He's worth considering with his resume.
 
I'd like him better if he got more than 2 combine tackles per game.

Hampton's impact isn't about tackles. It never was. He demands double teams to free up the linebackers. If he can do that to let Cushing and our other LB do their thing while still getting 2 tackles a game then I'd say he's worth it.
 
Hampton's impact isn't about tackles. It never was. He demands double teams to free up the linebackers. If he can do that to let Cushing and our other LB do their thing while still getting 2 tackles a game then I'd say he's worth it.

Well worth it. Ask ray Lewis how much difference a guy like that makes.
 
Daryl Smith is someone I like and since he was injured last season and is over 30 & he isn't getting a ton of interest (it seems). He's another player at the end of his career but he is a hell of a player when healthy. One of the best linebackers in the NFL a few years ago, can play all over the field. He isn't a pass rusher but he is very instinctive and covers a ton of ground. He missed almost all of last season with a groin injury but I think he played the last couple of games for them. He'd be another short term fix, but another proven veteran who could really help Cushing inside.
 
I'm hoping they're looking for a decent OT. I doubt that Caveman comes back, he seems to be looking for another sizeable payday and we can't afford that. Ryan Harris looks like the best fit for the scheme and the remaining budget.
 
Daryl Smith is someone I like and since he was injured last season and is over 30 & he isn't getting a ton of interest (it seems). He's another player at the end of his career but he is a hell of a player when healthy. One of the best linebackers in the NFL a few years ago, can play all over the field. He isn't a pass rusher but he is very instinctive and covers a ton of ground. He missed almost all of last season with a groin injury but I think he played the last couple of games for them. He'd be another short term fix, but another proven veteran who could really help Cushing inside.

You talking about the ILB from Jville right? If that's who I think you are talking about, yes I would have to agree with you. He also has been somewhat of a thorn in the Texans side when we play Jville, seems to have decent to very good games against us.
 
Off of that list, Give me, one of these guys should be available for the vet min

1. Heyward-Bey
2. Hixon
3.Laurent Robinson
4. Edelmann
5. Ramses-Barden
6. Collie

Man .... Im not impressed with the remaining FA's at the WR spot .... most of them did next to nothing in terms of production and those that did were system guy's.

I think you might be better off just drafting two in the early rounds and save your $$$ for depth at both ILB abd OLB when the June cuts roll around.
 
I've read that he's asking too much money. Which means the odds of him coming back here are slim. Unless he drastically lowers his price

Somebody on a fins board said that Winston was asking for $6m-$8m a year. He's out of his mind. Andre Smith (Bengals RT) is also an UFA, and he wants in upwards of $9m a year as well.
 
Obviously we can't afford Winston if he's deluded enough to be asking for $6 Mill but I do know that if we stay with the status quo, we won't be very good on O. :toropalm:
 
we won a championship & that was with trying to figure out who our right guard is. That should not be issue.
 
Obviously we can't afford Winston if he's deluded enough to be asking for $6 Mill but I do know that if we stay with the status quo, we won't be very good on O. :toropalm:

The Texans probably wont be able to afford him even if he comes down off that high horse to a reasonable price ... We'll likely be looking at Vet Min or close to it guy's from here on.


I get the idea that the team didnt want to push money off into future years caps ... Not reworking AJ or Ninja's deals to free up a few $$$ .... as they have some big decisions to make on Cushing , Watt and KJax. coming up. Pushing money to future years doesnt help them with that ....

Draft picks and bargin FA's .... thats what I expect.
 
Off of that list, Give me, one of these guys should be available for the vet min

1. Heyward-Bey
2. Hixon
3.Laurent Robinson
4. Edelmann
5. Ramses-Barden
6. Collie

Man .... Im not impressed with the remaining FA's at the WR spot .... most of them did next to nothing in terms of production and those that did were system guy's.

I think you might be better off just drafting two in the early rounds and save your $$$ for depth at both ILB abd OLB when the June cuts roll around.

By no means am I a fan of Heyward-bey, but from that list, I might choose him just for his ability to take the top off a defense.
He might not be all that good, but his speed has to be respected, and that alone has some value, both opening up the passing game underneath, and keeping safeties honest so they can't cheat on the running game.
 
By no means am I a fan of Heyward-bey, but from that list, I might choose him just for his ability to take the top off a defense.
He might not be all that good, but his speed has to be respected, and that alone has some value, both opening up the passing game underneath, and keeping safeties honest so they can't cheat on the running game.

Call me crazy but of the list of FA's .... I think I might go with Steve Breaston or Braylon Edwards at the right price. (the fact that I even spoke the name Braylon Edwards says a lot about how piss poor the FA WR's are).
 
I suspect the next serious "shopping flurry" won't happen until after the draft is over and OTAs start. And maybe not until the June 1st cuts happen. We might see onesies and twosies between now and then but nothing more.
:twocents:
 
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