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What's the next move for the Texans?

ASidd_1990 said:
Victor Cruz would most likely command a salary of 15 million a year or a contract similar to what Calvin Johnson got. Plus you have to give up a 1st rounder? Not worth it.

Besides we have to worry about Cushing and Watt contract coming up.


I'd look at Brandon Lloyd for cheap. He's the perfect weapon next to AJ.
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15 a year for Cruz? Which of your acclaimed sources told you that?
 
ILB Takeo Spikes anyone?

WR Quan Cosby has great hands and does well at finding soft spots on the defense (imo). Just sayin'....
 
Should have attempted to sign Jones, proven 3 down backer at a position of need. I would bring in Dansby to see if we could sign him to a reasonable contract.
 
TexanBacker93 said:
Our ILB was poor because we were missing an All Pro level player. You add him back in there and the rest of those players aren't playing as many snaps and we are solidified up the middle. Well, at least at LB.

I think we need better play at NT to help our ILBs. We had a lot of injuries at that spot all year and I think having a better guy in the middle of the line can only help the LBs.
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I really dont want Cush to be headbanging at the LOS. I'd prefer for him to roam and be a playmaker. Bring in a specialist ILB that will seek and destroy.
 
Rufus Jarvis said:
ILB Takeo Spikes anyone?

WR Quan Cosby has great hands and does well at finding soft spots on the defense (imo). Just sayin'....
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would love to have takeo, if for no other reason than to get him to the playoffs. he'd be a vet minimum short yardage backup, but who could say no to having a player with a neck that big?
 
76Texan said:
However, if they plan to retain W Smith, the Texans would probably be better of signing veterans like Harris and Dobbins to minim veteran deals.
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If the Texans were going to cut Wade Smith, don't you think they would have by now?

ASidd_1990 said:
Victor Cruz would most likely command a salary of 15 million a year or a contract similar to what Calvin Johnson got. Plus you have to give up a 1st rounder? Not worth it.

I'd look at Brandon Lloyd for cheap. He's the perfect weapon next to AJ.
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Dutchrudder said:
15 a year for Cruz? Which of your acclaimed sources told you that?
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Might as well be $50 million, because the Texans aren't making a play for Cruz. I doubt they have the cap room for Lloyd. I don't think there's anything left but room for minimum contracts and the draft picks. If the Texans are going to do anything else in free agency, they need to work out something with Antonio Smith's contract.
 
Lucky said:
Might as well be $50 million, because the Texans aren't making a play for Cruz. I doubt they have the cap room for Lloyd. I don't think there's anything left but room for minimum contracts and the draft picks. If the Texans are going to do anything else in free agency, they need to work out something with Antonio Smith's contract.
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Unfortunately I believe what we are seeing from the Texans is a team, and especially a coaching staff that believes so much in "the system" they feel that the players needed to win it all are on the team now. Hope as a fan that is true, but its hard to see.
 
What do you guys think about ex NYG WR Steve Smith? He is 27 had a couple good yrs for NYGs I don't know why his production dropped.
 
Rufus Jarvis said:
ILB Takeo Spikes anyone?

WR Quan Cosby has great hands and does well at finding soft spots on the defense (imo). Just sayin'....
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I don't know if anyone welcomed you to the board or not, so welcome! And, I wanted to say I like your "Josey Wales" avatar. That's John Vernon, aka. "Dean Wormer" from "Animal House." Your avatar looks like the scene where Vernon tells the senator, "We have a saying in Missouri, Senator. Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." That's one of the great classic lines in the that movie! :)

Again, Welcome to the boards!
 
srrono said:
What do you guys think about ex NYG WR Steve Smith? He is 27 had a couple good yrs for NYGs I don't know why his production dropped.
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He got injured in 2010 and just really wasn't the same on the Eagles. I don't know how his time on the Rams went but judging by the stats, I'll go ahead and say not very good.
 
I would like one of these vets. The longer they sit the cheaper they will cost.
Antoine Winfield CB
or
Shaun Phillips OLB
or
Michael Boley LB
or
Karlos Dansby LB
or
Sione Pouha NT
or
Chris Cooley TE
 
srrono said:
I would like one of these vets. The longer they sit the cheaper they will cost.
Antoine Winfield CB
or
Shaun Phillips OLB
or
Michael Boley LB
or
Karlos Dansby LB
or
Sione Pouha NT
or
Chris Cooley TE
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I don't see Winfield as an option as the Texans seem to be set at CB w/ McCain signing. Maybe if they decide to move one of the CB's to safety, but as it stands now they seem set.

I wouldn't mind seeing Phillips, Boley, Dansby, or Poucha, but I don't think the vet minimum will get them here. As you said, the longer the wait the lower the price, so it could happen but I have my doubts.

No on Cooley. He has had injury issues & doesn't fit what the Texans need, which is a blocking TE. We got the receiving TE's in Graham & OD & I don't believe we need another who is injury prone on top of that.
 
I think its possible we move around some money to sign a few more guys.

I like some of the names mentioned. Someone mentioned Spikes and I think he'd be a solid signing to play alongside Cushing. But if Cushing gets hurt then we have the same problem as last year. I have a feeling that we're done until after the draft though unless someone just seems like too good of a value to pass up on now. Lechler may be the lone exception.
 
I'd really like to see us go get Casey Hampton. That is a move that could really have a big impact for us for a very reasonable price. Picking him up could also push the need to draft a NT to next year. It makes a lot of sense.
 
Free Agent WRs per RotoWorld
not much high quality left to choose from

Dwayne Bowe (Signed five-year, $56M deal with KC)
Mike Wallace (Signed five-year, $60M deal with MIA)
Greg Jennings (Signed five-year, $47.5M deal with MIN)
Wes Welker (Signed two-year, $12M deal with DEN)
Danny Amendola (Signed five-year, $27.7M deal with NE)
Brian Hartline (Signed five-year, $30.775M deal with MIA)
Brandon Lloyd
Julian Edelman
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Laurent Robinson
Donnie Avery (Signed three-year, $8.55M deal with KC)
Jerome Simpson (Signed one-year, $2.1M deal with MIN)
Kevin Ogletree (Signed two-year, $2.6M deal with TB)
Randy Moss
Braylon Edwards
Austin Collie
Donald Jones (Signed three-year, $4.155M deal with NE)
Josh Cribbs
Domenik Hixon
Ramses Barden
Jabar Gaffney
Brandon Stokley
Brandon Gibson (Signed three-year, $9.755M deal with MIA)
Steve Breaston
Titus Young
Mohamed Massaquoi
David Nelson
Kevin Walter
Mark Clayton
Donte' Stallworth
Brandon Tate
 
Second part of the WR listing.

Ted Ginn (Signed one-year deal with CAR)
Devery Henderson
Louis Murphy (Signed one-year, $715K deal with NYG)
Michael Jenkins
Derek Hagan
Early Doucet
Terrell Owens
Plaxico Burress (Signed one-year, $940K deal with PIT)
Chaz Schilens
Sammie Stroughter
Steve Smith (STL)
Devin Aromashodu
Marlon Moore (Signed one-year deal with SF)
Jordan Shipley (Signed two-year, $1.315M deal with JAX)
Chad Johnson
Deion Branch
Adrian Arrington
Courtney Roby (Signed undisclosed deal with NO)
Jason Hill
Greg Camarillo
Kassim Osgood (Signed one-year deal with DET)
Roscoe Parrish
Big Mike Williams
Lee Evans
Micheal Spurlock
Brandon Banks
Mike Sims-Walker
Ruvell Martin
Legedu Naanee
 
mussop said:
There are two veteran NT's out there who are at the same stage of their career as Reed that would probably come cheap. It would be Stupid not to at least take a look at them.
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I know you don't have a lot of respect for Kubiak & Smith, but hopefully Wade has earned some of your respect, where you don't think he is stupid.

Chances are we are not going to look at those NTs. Maybe because Wade, Kubiak, & Smith do not believe they fit one way or another.

mussop said:
So you are ok with what we currently have at NT?
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If we go into next season without an "upgrade" at NT, we'll have to believe that what we are looking for is not what they are looking for. Then we need to try to understand what it is they are after. Something tells me whatever it is, it looks like Cody & Mitchell.
 
ASidd_1990 said:
Brandon Lloyd or Casey Hampton would be ideal but I don't think we could afford them.
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Casey and any receiver capable of making plays to me is cool. Lloyd won't cost that much, but I'm a little curious why the Patriots don't want him back, plus he's never been able to stick anywhere. Just raises a red flag to me.
 
There are actually 4-5 guys on that list that could come here and help this WR corp. I would think lost of them would take the minimum or close to it at this point so I'm not sure what Rick's waiting for.
 
the wonger need food said:
There are actually 4-5 guys on that list that could come here and help this WR corp. I would think lost of them would take the minimum or close to it at this point so I'm not sure what Rick's waiting for.
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Thing is, hardly anyone is courting the the guys left on that list because they have questions regarding their return to full health (Breaston, D. Stallworth) or they've been inconsistent (B. Edwards, Heywood-Bey)...

I think Rick Smith and all the other GMs are waiting to see how the draft shakes out and to see who, if anyone, emerges in OTAs
 
The Pencil Neck said:
The problem with signing him now is that you don't know when he's going to be healthy and you're taking a big risk on a spot you could be using for someone who'll contribute. Sometimes ACLs can take over a year to recover from.

OTOH, if I knew he'd be ready near the beginning of the season... he could be a good risk to take.
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I wouldn't mind them taking a look at Laurent Robinson, providing he can pass a physical (concussions).
 
I'd like for The Ninja to have a man-to-man talk with Karlos Dansby, his old running mate with the Cardinals when they went to the Super Bowl, and have him come here to play ILB.

We'd have to restructure some guys to be able to afford that but there you go.
 
Texn4life said:
Oh sorry you're talking about him being a #2. They've been looking for receivers even with him there. There's been talk for years that Johnson needs a better weapon on the other side. He's not terrible, but think we can do better.
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He's better than anybody but AJ on the Texans .
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
He had 61 receptions in 2011 starting 13 games in his 2nd year . In 2012 tore his ACL in the first game .
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I was half way joking because of what he did in the Cowboys game. If you don't remember look it up. It was very cheesy. He did have a decent year that year, but they threw the ball a ton also.
 
Texn4life said:
I think you were missing my point, but you're high on him. I'm personally not. No biggie my man.
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I want the Texans to take Justin Hunter in the 1st . In the 2nd a NG or RT in the 3rd the one you didn't pick and an ILB unless a safety is there .

A guy like Nelson is just for depth .
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
I want the Texans to take Justin Hunter in the 1st . In the 2nd a NG or RT in the 3rd the one you didn't pick and an ILB unless a safety is there .

A guy like Nelson is just for depth .
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I like Hunter where we pick as well. His injury history and build scares the beejeezus out of me though, but his upside is HUGE! We feel about the same on the draft except I would replace RT with a safety. If, and its a big if, Newton is healthy then I think his improvement will be substantial. You could even see his growth as the season went along. Harris is also a guy we can bring back for depth so I'd rather get a young safety since this is such a good draft for them. Then take a RT in the 4th if we really need one.

I've made no secret that I want Ramses Barden. I can't use stats to back why because he doesn't have the numbers, but is upside is something that'll pay off I believe.
 
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