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What's the next move for the Texans?

I suspect the next serious "shopping flurry" won't happen until after the draft is over and OTAs start. And maybe not until the June 1st cuts happen. We might see onesies and twosies between now and then but nothing more.
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Non-guaranteed deals. :boogereater:
 
The Raiders are the other team I follow, trust me when I say we want no part of DHB. He's just not a NFL caliber WR in any way.
 
The Raiders are the other team I follow, trust me when I say we want no part of DHB. He's just not a NFL caliber WR in any way.

He was slowly progressing last year, but I can't fault anybody for not playing that well while on the catastrophe known as the Raiders.
 
Somebody on a fins board said that Winston was asking for $6m-$8m a year. He's out of his mind. Andre Smith (Bengals RT) is also an UFA, and he wants in upwards of $9m a year as well.

He might be asking but nobody is biting. Just saw this over at NFL.com about "Cavemans" hunt for a new team. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...ton-still-drawing-san-diego-chargers-interest

Apparently the Bolts, Fins, and Eagles still have the door open for him, but I think he's going to have to come way down on his asking price, and they are probably just waiting him out. I guess he's trying to play the same game Asomugha was playing a couple of years ago; to play one team against another, and drive up the price. If he doesn't come down in price or the teams don't go up he may be waiting by the phone when the season starts. It's like a game of :chicken: to see who breaks 1st!
 
I cant believe we signed these 3 F/a agents TBO whats or cap look like now for last year maybe they wont resign cushing depending on how he comes back from injury ...???
 
I know he's on the downside of his career, but would anybody be opposed to James Harrison coming here on a 1 year deal for cheap? If we signed him, and Gooden from San Fran I think we'd be good on the defensive side of the ball for this year excluding NT.
 
I know he's on the downside of his career, but would anybody be opposed to James Harrison coming here on a 1 year deal for cheap? If we signed him, and Gooden from San Fran I think we'd be good on the defensive side of the ball for this year excluding NT.

He won't go anywhere for cheap, that's why nobody is considering signing him at the moment. Pittsburgh cut him loose because he wasn't willing to restructure to help the team. Obviously he's not obligated to do that, but with injuries and declining play he would consider it. He flat out told them no way so they cut him loose. He's stated he's not signing a minimum deal as a FA.
 
He won't go anywhere for cheap, that's why nobody is considering signing him at the moment. Pittsburgh cut him loose because he wasn't willing to restructure to help the team. Obviously he's not obligated to do that, but with injuries and declining play he would consider it. He flat out told them no way so they cut him loose. He's stated he's not signing a minimum deal as a FA.

I knew about him not wanting to re-structure with the Steelers, but a lot of guys won't do it with their current team. They feel like its a slap in the face. I guess for him there's no harm in waiting it out.
 
I know he's on the downside of his career, but would anybody be opposed to James Harrison coming here on a 1 year deal for cheap? If we signed him, and Gooden from San Fran I think we'd be good on the defensive side of the ball for this year excluding NT.

He is not "Texans worthy" whatever the hell that actually means.

Well it would help if he had a legit QB throwing to him.

He wont get that here either then
 
He was slowly progressing last year, but I can't fault anybody for not playing that well while on the catastrophe known as the Raiders.

I'm not sure how many Raider games you've watched over the years, and quite frankly I'm not sure why you'd want to watch any as I've been a Raider fan since the early 80s and its hard for me to watch them now, but if DHB has shown any improvement it's from complete bust to meh. He just doesn't catch the ball well, he has a serious case of stone hands
 
I think I'd pass on him. His career started off promising, but he's kind of fizzled out for whatever reason.

I hear ya. He's a cheap vet though. It probably wont be him but it will be something in that mold. People clamoring for something sexier with more name recognition are going to be dissapointed.
 
I hear ya. He's a cheap vet though. It probably wont be him but it will be something in that mold. People clamoring for something sexier with more name recognition are going to be dissapointed.

Yeah, we're definitely going to have to go that route. I still say Ramses Barden is the guy I would gamble on. And yes it is a gamble, but if we hit on this one then it'll be a big hit.
 
Well, the last time Winston complained that the Texans didn't even talk to him.

When I sold cars for a living, it was my job to talk to people "just looking" the idea was to get them talking about owning the vehicle, & the cost of buying it. One technique, was to throw numbers out there & see what you get. Try to find out where their head is. If they're way under.... wanting to take a $5,000 premium from sticker, we let them go, find another person "just looking"

(& I'm just throwing $5,000 out there. Sometimes that's doable, sometimes it's not)

But if they are in the ballpark, my job is then to get them to make the decision to buy that day.

Now, I know $40,000 is pittence to RickSmith & EricWinston, but the principle is the same. I'd like to think he, or someone directed by him threw some numbers at Winston, or his agent & he thought they were too far apart to even bother with a "deal"

Eric may not have known he was in "negotiation" but a person like RickSmith should live & die by the salesman mantra, "Always be closing."
 
When I sold cars for a living, it was my job to talk to people "just looking" the idea was to get them talking about owning the vehicle, & the cost of buying it. One technique, was to throw numbers out there & see what you get. Try to find out where their head is. If they're way under.... wanting to take a $5,000 premium from sticker, we let them go, find another person "just looking"

(& I'm just throwing $5,000 out there. Sometimes that's doable, sometimes it's not)

But if they are in the ballpark, my job is then to get them to make the decision to buy that day.

Now, I know $40,000 is pittence to RickSmith & EricWinston, but the principle is the same. I'd like to think he, or someone directed by him threw some numbers at Winston, or his agent & he thought they were too far apart to even bother with a "deal"

Eric may not have known he was in "negotiation" but a person like RickSmith should live & die by the salesman mantra, "Always be closing."

MSR.

Cool story and a reasonable idea. That's probably what happened.
 
I suspect the next serious "shopping flurry" won't happen until after the draft is over and OTAs start. And maybe not until the June 1st cuts happen. We might see onesies and twosies between now and then but nothing more.
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it appears this is what is happening . . . there's still at least depth value out there, but not a lot of money available . . . looks like there will be lots of players playing at the vet minimum . . . ready to see how the draft fills in some of the blanks . . . ;)
 
...Eric may not have known he was in "negotiation" but a person like RickSmith should live & die by the salesman mantra, "Always be closing."

Anyone know if sports agents are bound by legal obligation to present all offers, similar to real estate agents?
 
Anyone know if sports agents are bound by legal obligation to present all offers, similar to real estate agents?

I am 98% sure that they are not obligated to present any much less all offers. If somebody can contradict this, I am willing to listen.
 
Anyone know if sports agents are bound by legal obligation to present all offers, similar to real estate agents?

Well, maybe FORMAL offers... but I think a lot of what they do is just shooting the breeze and getting a feel for where the other party's head is at.
 
If an offer is not formal, it can't be legal.
If it's not legal, I don't see how an agent can be held liable for anything.
 
Sorry just had to bump this thread...the next move for your Texans is to trade #27 for a second and third. please, please, please. It would be worth watching the entire first round and delaying my gratification another day.
 
Sorry just had to bump this thread...the next move for your Texans is to trade #27 for a second and third. please, please, please. It would be worth watching the entire first round and delaying my gratification another day.

If Minter and Ogletree are gone in the first then yes.
 
If Minter and Ogletree are gone in the first then yes.

I don't think Ogletree is an option. He is a knucklehead & has proven that on multiple occasions. We all know that's not a Texan type player. I honestly believe he is a suspension waiting to happen & could be the next R. McClain, which is a complete waste of talent.
 
Sorry just had to bump this thread...the next move for your Texans is to trade #27 for a second and third. please, please, please. It would be worth watching the entire first round and delaying my gratification another day.

They would, but if Leon Sandcastle falls to us, you gotta take him!!
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Sorry just had to bump this thread...the next move for your Texans is to trade #27 for a second and third. please, please, please. It would be worth watching the entire first round and delaying my gratification another day.

Actually, it is to draft somebody we have talked about, but is not really anyone's target player and/or position.
 
I don't think Ogletree is an option. He is a knucklehead & has proven that on multiple occasions. We all know that's not a Texan type player. I honestly believe he is a suspension waiting to happen & could be the next R. McClain, which is a complete waste of talent.

No way is he even in the same level as Rolando McClain, but I do see where you are coming from. In my mock draft I have Minter in the first and Robert Woods in the second.

They would, but if Leon Sandcastle falls to us, you gotta take him!!
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Bro, that Sandcastle joke is getting so annoying, especially after seeing him interview "himself" as Sandcastle on NFL network. Jeez if Deion's ego wasn't big enough before it is now.
 
Bro, that Sandcastle joke is getting so annoying, especially after seeing him interview "himself" as Sandcastle on NFL network. Jeez if Deion's ego wasn't big enough before it is now.

We had some comments about that a couple of weeks ago. I hate it that they're wasting time with this un-funny crap when they could be covering something like... oh... maybe... the NFL?
 
Bro, that Sandcastle joke is getting so annoying, especially after seeing him interview "himself" as Sandcastle on NFL network. Jeez if Deion's ego wasn't big enough before it is now.

Man, I was just joking. Don't have to get so upset about it. Plus, why waste your time watching NFL network? Bunch of clowns on there anyway. Just hang out on the mock draft sub forum for all the draft news you want. Much better than NFL network.
 
They would, but if Leon Sandcastle falls to us, you gotta take him!!
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You know I am a speed guy but not sure if Sandcastle has much upside. My sources tell me he is more athlete than player and not sure if he has durability. He looks older than he is I think and may not be a good selection.
 
You know I am a speed guy but not sure if Sandcastle has much upside. My sources tell me he is more athlete than player and not sure if he has durability. He looks older than he is I think and may not be a good selection.

I'll give you that. I also think he might wear a wig....that's just me though. :kitten:
 
Sorry just had to bump this thread...the next move for your Texans is to trade #27 for a second and third. please, please, please. It would be worth watching the entire first round and delaying my gratification another day.

Man that would be dope. Fingers crossed
 
Man, I was just joking. Don't have to get so upset about it. Plus, why waste your time watching NFL network? Bunch of clowns on there anyway. Just hang out on the mock draft sub forum for all the draft news you want. Much better than NFL network.

I'm sorry if I came across as telling you your joke sucked but I was referring to the entire Deion loves himself dead joke. I got NFL network since they started to show more games but I have to pay extra :( so that's why I kinda feel the need to watch it more since I am paying extra for it.
 
I'm sorry if I came across as telling you your joke sucked but I was referring to the entire Deion loves himself dead joke. I got NFL network since they started to show more games but I have to pay extra :( so that's why I kinda feel the need to watch it more since I am paying extra for it.

Understandable. You just came across as if Deion stole your car or something. Haha.

No problem. Welcome to the board.
 
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