powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Ellis you get to beat the dog snot out of josh ennis and talk about the new team on the radio.
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Ed Reed agrees to terms with Texans
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Ellis you get to beat the dog snot out of josh ennis and talk about the new team on the radio.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Cak .... You play RT , TexanBill , You get Safety , DoubleBarrel can take Walters spot at WR , I'll play ILB and Dread can line up in Barwin's spot. We'll be just fine with a bunch of 40 somethings ....
Dude, you have 50 lbs on me and at least a foot of wingspan. You get RT and I'm taking ILB.
Actually we should get Vinny at RT.
For once someone has a humorous birther joke.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
You have it backwards, NT is the biggest hole on defense. 68% of Opposing teams runs are between the two guards against our defense. Not having a NT that can change that is a prescription for getting both our inside LB's injured. We need someone there (NT) that can protect our LB's and force things outside.
That's why our ILB's couldn't stay healthy last year.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
And a occasional illegal chop block from behind right at the knee
bckey
All Pro
Come on Cak. The 49ers have made some decent aquisitions already.
Anquan Boldin and Glenn Dorsey.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
That was the irony of it all .... the smallest among us at NT (Jen) and You at RT.
Yeah Nitro that was funny ... But I like Powda's idea better for EU .... let him b!tchslap Josh around and talk about how bad it is to go from 12-4 to 8-8.
Oooh, I'll be a "starving, unpaid intern" if I get to slap Josh -whinyboy-Innis around.
Nawzer
Alienz
I can agree with that.
Speaking of NTs, why no buzz on F/A Cody?
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Yeah but Jen is a French Bulldog, aka ankle biter. That's pretty much a cut block champion.
Brandon420tx
Flounder
I didn't really care if he signed one way or another. I will however balk if he's signed for anything over a 6 million average. I'm seriously ok with saving future cap room to resign our core players in the coming offseason
10.5 mil may not be much in your world. But in mine that's a whoooooole!!!! lot of $$$$$.
It could be worse. We could be denver.
Seriously though...Why not bring in dumerville? Before I gave reed 7 mil I would give it to dumerville and move brooks reed inside. Is merciless and dumerville too much of a liability on the outside?
Just occurred to me.
Mike
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Seriously though...Why not bring in dumerville? Before I gave reed 7 mil I would give it to dumerville and move brooks reed inside. Is merciless and dumerville too much of a liability on the outside?
Just occurred to me.
Mike
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How much do you think a proven NFL QB cost?
How much do you think a QB that can carry a team cost?
Can you find one available?
The opponents now can run around the edges as well as up the middle, I would think.
From what I heard, at least 5 of those positions can be upgrade easily, why worry?
paycheck71
Hall of Fame
Obviously 10MM in dead money isn't optimal, but that scenario would only happen if Schaub is cut and they're drafting his replacement. There's also 4MM in cap savings which is enough to pay a potential rookie QB, even a first rounder.
All I know is Schaub is damaged goods and will never lead the Texans to a championship. Remember I was a Schaub guy who still likes Schaub as a person/leader. I've got my doubts that Schaub will make it through next season.
Unfortunately the Texans need to draft and develop the next guy to try to lead them to a championship. Bray would be my guy. How do you feel about Keenum possibly being the Guy?
ASidd_1990
Waterboy
So when will we find out if this bloke has signed with us or not?
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
From what I heard, at least 5 of those positions can be upgrade easily, why worry?
Oh yeah of course people on these message boards have all the solutions haha. Why in the hell am i worried
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
Cak .... You play RT , TexanBill , You get Safety , DoubleBarrel can take Walters spot at WR , I'll play ILB and Dread can line up in Barwin's spot. We'll be just fine with a bunch of 40 somethings ....
I go to refill my bourbon and this is what I come back to. Oh well, I nominate Hookem as a Chris Myers replacement.
Nawzer
Alienz
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
Why don't you ask your source. He's been spot on so far.
Bulls on Parade?
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
yeah where has he been ? I guess after making that bold statment about what he does for aliving he decided better to not show up for a while.
Maybe he makes the coffee for all the big wigs with the texans and he didnt put enough creamer in the coffee for Reed and he said "what kind of circus are you guys running here, you call this coffee" and then he left. Damn you BOP
No .... The one that told about a Matt Turk reunion that he provided no source to.
Most of us know to provide a link to source info .... Or dont post it.
Maybe BOP is ASidd_1990
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
I stopped reading that post at "Matt Turk has a groupie."
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
How could you bare the thought of missing out on the excitment of the rest of the post ???? Mind boggling really
Lurvinator11
Veteran
I've got no doubt Schaub will play as well next year as he did last year, which was on par for how he played through most of his career. Unfortunately, we need the Matt Schaub from 2009 & I don't think we'll ever see that guy again. Maybe if we get him a true weapon to go with Andre that not only stretches the field (like Jacoby) but demands coverage & respect (un-like Jacoby).
But I do wonder, if we had a Peyton Manning, or a Tom Brady, would Reed have left? Then again, Greg Jennings chose Christian Ponder over Aaron Rogers.
htowntexans1985
1st Round Pick
Jennings and reed both have a ring. They're looking for the payday now.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
It wouldn't surprise me if the Texans are trying to low ball.......with heavy "incentives" to be built into the contract to cover a possible downturn in production or injury in these, his later playing years........just a thought as to why there may be such a lag in trying to sign him.
GP
Go Texans!
I've stated the same thing earlier on.
If we're at around 5 and he's at around 6 or even upwards of possibly 7...then I think it's reasonable, given his age and situation, to tell him we'll go 6 and he can earn an extra $500k per year IF we make the playoffs and IF he's played percentage of games and IF he's playing in the playoffs. The moment he finishes game 1 of the playoffs, he gets an extra $500k. Same thing in 2014.
I think that's fair. Welker got around 6, we're offering same deal with a potential for an extra $500k each season if things go the way it should. Ed knows we're capable of making the playoffs.
He wants to work out in Florida? Fine. Big damn deal. He's been doing it forever now. Makes him happy, then so be it.
Skip OTAs and take it easy in camp? Absolutely, Ed. Rest and read the playbook with your teammates during meetings.
This could still happen. I think AJ is trying all he can to get it done, so there's some good possibility that the front office might have had this as an ace up their sleeve if Team Reed rejected our lowest offer. What do you think?
handswarmer
Rookie
Not news:
There's a bit of drama that circles Ed Reed. Not unusual for him to take his time, stretch things out. He was eternally unhappy with his beingdisrespected by the Ravens organization all last offseason. Lot's of "Will he or won't he?" media. Yada, yada, yada.
However it works out will be fine.
A that 'disrespect' was self induced by Reed. He had a yar left on his contract, he talked about the Organization not 'honoring' the cntracts because they can cut a player at any tme; yet he was the one whining for a new deal when he had a year left- how about honoring your end of the bargain Ed?
He did and he got paid all this past year. Now he is free to go out and see what is available.
Caveat Emptor
handswarmer
Rookie
The back end ofthe contract should be ignored- it will be re-structured after year 3 so it doesn't really count. Here are the total numbers forthe three years that count-
Year Salary Bonus Options Cap hit
2013 $1mill $5mill $0 $6.8mill
2014 $6mill $5.8mill $3mill $14.8mill
2015 $4mill $5.8mill $4.75mill $14.55mill
handswarmer
Rookie
Jason La Canfora‏@JasonLaCanfora
Ownership from Texans, Ravens expect to meet with Ed Reed's agent at league mtg in AZ next week, Ravens coaches and officials have been...
Ownership from Texans, Ravens expect to meet with Ed Reed's agent at league mtg in AZ next week, Ravens coaches and officials have been...
handswarmer
Rookie
Jason La Canfora‏@JasonLaCanfora
(Cont) Other teams still calling as well to inquire. Likely to come together at meetings. Ravens will make their push.
(Cont) Other teams still calling as well to inquire. Likely to come together at meetings. Ravens will make their push.
While Keenum's lack of height makes him a better fit in the shotgun, I believe he's smart enough to find the window to throw to from under center on quick throws and after taking his drop (with a defender coming quickly on a blitz or pushing the pocket hard - ie., one or two of our linemen lose too quickly).
The only real issue with him is to keep upright after taking some hits.
It helps that he has a very quick release (his old QB coach who also worked with Geno Smith and Weeden said that Keenum has the quickest release of the 3 - I guess I don't have to take those screen shots to prove it anymore) and he can read defense quickly so he does get the ball out very fast. That helped him avoiding some hits.
So yes, I think Keenum can be the guy.
Hey at least, Kubiak has a choice to bring him in when the team needs to go with the no huddle trying to play catch up.
That would find him in the shotgun more.
And Kubiak was very impressed with how he ran the no huddle last pre-season.
handswarmer
Rookie
Jason La Canfora‏@JasonLaCanfora
Bottom line: Texans offer wasn't substantial enough to preclude Reed from leaving w/o signing. Door is still wide open for the Ravens
Bottom line: Texans offer wasn't substantial enough to preclude Reed from leaving w/o signing. Door is still wide open for the Ravens
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
Yeah, but the problem for the Ravens is they'll have $25,850,000 in unamortized bonus/guaranteed money left on that contract after year three. That means that essentially they've given Flacco all of the leverage in negotiations (ie: cutting him means you take a $25.85 million cap hit instead of a $28.55 million in year 4).
You're not talking about the typical restructure, you're talking about an extension. If Joe decides to play hardball, he's got the Ravens by the short-hairs.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Wow, breezing through this thread and folks are actually back to talking about wanting Chad Johnson on this team? Lol!
That is literally about as dumb as asking Dennis Rodman to come play WR for the Texans at this point.
Geez, an athlete does a few reality shows and puts himself in front of the cameras and people lose all sight of what actually has to take place on the field. Chad Johnson hasn't done anything in like 4 years. Posts clamoring for Chad Johnson aren't even drunk thread worthy. :mariopalm:
That is literally about as dumb as asking Dennis Rodman to come play WR for the Texans at this point.
Geez, an athlete does a few reality shows and puts himself in front of the cameras and people lose all sight of what actually has to take place on the field. Chad Johnson hasn't done anything in like 4 years. Posts clamoring for Chad Johnson aren't even drunk thread worthy. :mariopalm:
houstonspartan
All Pro
LOL. It's the offseason, the time of year when people lose their f-----g minds.
Regarding Ed Reed: Gotta admit that his people are playing their hand very well. They have several teams bidding on an aging Safety. Impressive.
paycheck71
Hall of Fame
I'll stop at this. You know nothing about it. Just like I don't, nor anyone on this board (unless someone from the Texans is reading and posting).
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
My first thought when I heard the news about Reed was that he was just using the Texans as leverage on other teams to pay more. Now, I'd love to be wrong about that and he might have some serious interest, but it just sort of came out of nowhere and I don't see Reed wanting to come here over the 49ers.
Why would an aging vet FS who already has a run now want to come play for the Texans over a team that has a way better HC then Kubiak and is the brother to his recent HC, has a better defense already, has a very good young QB that just played in the SB, and is probably the top contender in the NFC? Sorry, but I just don't see why Reed would rather be here.
That defense is no longer the same, Tex.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
What defense? The Texans or the Niners?
The Texans defense is very much improved, but it fell off a lot last season towards the end of the year. They are not as good as the 49ers defense. Plus, the Niners have a much better HC then the Texans. Harbaugh could coach circles around Kubiak. If both teams are paying the same amount of money, why would Reed rather come here?? Does Reed think that Schaub can make the necessary plays to get this team to a SB in a post season run like what Flacco just did? I highly doubt he does.
It's just a realistic perspective as far as judging both situations objectively. Now if the Texans are paying quite a bit more then that is a different story, but I don't think the Texans have the kind of cap room to do that.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
I think the only reason he would come here for the same amount of money is because of Dre.