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Mario movement rumors (MERGED) Signs with Buffalo $100 million

6 Year Deal - $78 Million total ($13 Million/year average). $15 Million signing bonus, $6.5 Million roster bonus in years 2 & 3 ($13 Million in total), Base Salary (in millions) by year- $6.5, $3.5, $4.0, $10.0, $12.0, $14.0.

Guarantee everything in the first three years ($42 Million), pay the roster bonus on the first day of the league year (early March).

Cap hit by year (in millions) $9.0, $12.5, $13.0, $12.5, $14.5, $16.5.

$28 Million in cash to Mario in the first 12 months of the deal, $38 Million in the first 24 months.

Unamortized bonus after year 3 - $7.5 Million, decreasing by $2.5 million per year.

Either or both of the roster bonuses could be converted to signing bonus if more cap room is needed in 2013 and/or 2014 (obviously with an increase in unamortized bonus as a result).
 
b0ng said:
I think the idea that people are using when they say that we can't afford him is that there will be a team that will outbid us even if we give him every last piece of our cap space.
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That's another story all together. Not even the staunchest Mario supporter here is suggesting we over-pay the man.

If someone thinks Mario is all about the money, then they need to come out & say so. I'm sure most of us know we can not win a bidding war, nor think we should.


b0ng said:
If Mario hits the open market, I'm not saying he's for sure gone, but it's going to be very difficult for him to resist the temptation of being probably the highest paid defensive player in the NFL.
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If I'm Rick Smith, I'm using this as an opportunity to send a message to all our players. I'll make a fair honest offer. I'll negotiate a reasonable deal that doesn't hurt the organization.

But if you turn it down, if you walk away, don't think about coming back. I would look at it like this... we're married, then all of a sudden you say you want to see other people... once you walk out that door, you are no longer the person I want to spend the rest of my life with.

b0ng said:
It's not every year that a 27 year old stud pass rusher comes onto the open market. He may have some injury issues, but teams like Seattle, Jacksonville, or whoever are probably going to be more than happy to risk many 10's of millions of dollars on Mario Williams. If Mario wants to stay a Texan it's almost a guarantee that he will have to take a deal that will give the Texans enough cap space to sign Foster to a nice contract, because that guy is pretty much the heart and soul of the offense. Foster doesn't need to have a giganto contract like Peterson or Johnson, but I think we need to offer him top5 RB salary because that's what he is.
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here is the Mario or Foster argument again. I don't think it needs to go there. If it makes sense for the organization, then we need to do it period. If that means the going rate of a pass rusher of Mario's caliber is $22M & we can't afford to pay Foster, so be it.

Which premier RB helped the GBPackers win a Super Bowl in 2010? The New York Giants in 2011? Keep going back until you find a Super Bowl Champ with a stud.. super star, franchise RB. Then go back & try to find a Super Bowl Champ without at least one franchise pass rusher.

JPP, Tuck, CMIII, Harrison, Strahan, Freeny, Seymour....

However current market value for a DE is not $22M, it's much lower & we should be able to work out a friendlier cap number.


b0ng said:
I do believe Williams wants to stay in Houston based off of the few articles already posted here, but want to, and will are worlds apart.
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That's a fine opinion, much better than stating we couldn't afford him.
 
b0ng said:
I think the idea that people are using when they say that we can't afford him is that there will be a team that will outbid us even if we give him every last piece of our cap space.

If Mario hits the open market, I'm not saying he's for sure gone, but it's going to be very difficult for him to resist the temptation of being probably the highest paid defensive player in the NFL. It's not every year that a 27 year old stud pass rusher comes onto the open market. He may have some injury issues, but teams like Seattle, Jacksonville, or whoever are probably going to be more than happy to risk many 10's of millions of dollars on Mario Williams. If Mario wants to stay a Texan it's almost a guarantee that he will have to take a deal that will give the Texans enough cap space to sign Foster to a nice contract, because that guy is pretty much the heart and soul of the offense. Foster doesn't need to have a giganto contract like Peterson or Johnson, but I think we need to offer him top5 RB salary because that's what he is.

I do believe Williams wants to stay in Houston based off of the few articles already posted here, but want to, and will are worlds apart.
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I think Mario will know that he coud have had money that others offer but just not seem like an ego fluffing player. I think a top 5 RB contract will satisy Foster who realizes Tate can extend his career. Those two guys seem to feed oof each other and enjoy the 2 back approach.
 
thunderkyss said:
That's another story all together. Not even the staunchest Mario supporter here is suggesting we over-pay the man.
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The disagreement would be over what "over pay" means. I have to admit, it's amusing to see all of the wannabe GMs and agents come up with contract terms. When Mario signs, there will be some that think the contract is too high, some will feel the Texans got a deal, and some that will believe it was fair to both sides.
 
Lucky said:
The disagreement would be over what "over pay" means. I have to admit, it's amusing to see all of the wannabe GMs and agents come up with contract terms. When Mario signs, there will be some that think the contract is too high, some will feel the Texans got a deal, and some that will believe it was fair to both sides.
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Not that it means much, but I'm going on record now.... anything that exceeds Julius Peppers deal is over-paying. Avg salary ($14M), guaranteed money ($42M over 3 years), Total value ($92M over 6 years).

The Bears overpaid for Peppers 2 years ago. That pushed up the value for a guy like Charles Johnson, which drives up the value of a Mario Williams. In my mind, that value is between Johnson's deal & Peppers' deal, so anything over Pepper's deal is overpaying.

To me.
 
From the Jets blog on ESPN:

1. The Jets chased the most coveted free agent last offseason, ultimately losing CB Nnamdi Asomugha to the Eagles. The No. 1 prize in the upcoming free-agent market is Texans DE/OLB Mario Williams, who could land the richest contract in history for a defensive player. Even though the Jets have a glaring need for a 3-4 OLB, they are expected to sit out the Williams sweepstakes. The primary reason is cap room. As of last week, they had less than $500,000 in projected cap space. They can create room by restructuring bloated contracts and cutting players -- and they probably will -- but they evidently prefer to use the money to address several needs instead of putting all their eggs in the Williams basket.

2. There's also some question about whether Williams can be a 3-4 OLB. He debuted in that role last season, switching to a stand-up position in Wade Phillips' 3-4 scheme. He showed promise (five sacks in four-plus games), but it was short-lived because of a torn pectoral muscle. We're talking about only 225 snaps, including just 17 plays in which he dropped into pass coverage, according to Pro Football Focus. The Jets use their OLBs in pass coverage roughly 20 percent of the time, so there would be some adjustment.
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Never even heard the Jets mentioned as a possible landing for Mario.

Changing the thread title to include any Mario to (fill in the blank) rumor.
 
ckhouston said:
Should change this and all other Mario is leaving threads to "Blah, and blah blah".
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It should all be over soon enough. There will be some disappointed fans, regardless of whether Mario stays or leaves. And a lot of "I told ya so" posts.
 
thunderkyss said:
Not that it means much, but I'm going on record now.... anything that exceeds Julius Peppers deal is over-paying. Avg salary ($14M), guaranteed money ($42M over 3 years), Total value ($92M over 6 years).

The Bears overpaid for Peppers 2 years ago. That pushed up the value for a guy like Charles Johnson, which drives up the value of a Mario Williams. In my mind, that value is between Johnson's deal & Peppers' deal, so anything over Pepper's deal is overpaying.

To me.
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Hide-n-watch it happen. By someone...
 
Texecutioner said:
Hopefully he goes and we can spend money on players that are high motor guys on every play that are worth the money.
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Whether MW stays or goes is less important than signing our other FA's. If he takes a hometown discount and we sign our oither guys, then all is well and good til next season.
 
Lucky said:
The disagreement would be over what "over pay" means. I have to admit, it's amusing to see all of the wannabe GMs and agents come up with contract terms. When Mario signs, there will be some that think the contract is too high, some will feel the Texans got a deal, and some that will believe it was fair to both sides.
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Is that true only about Mario and sports or just about anything in life?
 
Show me some love Houston...

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Or money..... either is fine with me.


Just saw that pic & had to post it.
 
As long as we can resign all our guys, that's really all I'm concerned about.

It's tough to let a talent like Mario go, but it's also tough to let a talent like Foster and Myers go.
 
thunderkyss said:
If I am correct & the high end of the market is $14M/yr ($14 x 3 = $42M over 3 years) there is no reason we can not structure the deal so his cap hit for 2012 is closer to $10M

You keep saying he'll cost too much, or that we won't be able to afford him. Everything I've shown, & the others who've suggested contracts to keep Mario has shown a reasonable contract offer that will reduce his 2012 cap number (~$10M) compared to his 2011 cap hit (~$18M) leaving money to sign Foster & Myers ($5M to Foster, $3M to Myers) with the savings alone.

This doesn't take into account the other 15 FA that will be coming off our books, saving us money. This doesn't take into account we have several contracts that can be re-structured (to put more money in the players hands sooner & lower our cap). This doesn't take into account the $1M we can roll-over from 2011, or the $3M we'll be allowed to borrow from 2013.

So, when you say we won't be able to afford to keep Mario, could you please be a little more specific as to why not?
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Ive already stated NUMEROUS times in other threads why we can't and shouldn't pay him. It has NOTHING to do with this season AND everything to do with the future. You can get him on the books now but not many contracts expire and every major contract we have ESCALATES each season so when guys like Cushing, Schaub, Brown and Barwin hit FA how will you sign them? Its about keeping a balanced check book and thinking down the road. You will need to sign him HUGE this year and lower his cap hit each season, not increase it to even have a chance at keeping him.

You are thinking too short sighted. You need to think long term and quit thinking just 2012.

Not to mention he isn't worth that money but thats another subject
 
amazing80 said:
Ive already stated NUMEROUS times in other threads why we can't and shouldn't pay him. It has NOTHING to do with this season AND everything to do with the future. You can get him on the books now but not many contracts expire and every major contract we have ESCALATES each season so when guys like Cushing, Schaub, Brown and Barwin hit FA how will you sign them? Its about keeping a balanced check book and thinking down the road. You will need to sign him HUGE this year and lower his cap hit each season, not increase it to even have a chance at keeping him.

You are thinking too short sighted. You need to think long term and quit thinking just 2012.

Not to mention he isn't worth that money but thats another subject
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I'm not being short-sighted at all. I understand the cap will go up in 2013. I don't believe signing MW is going to prevent us from signing Schaub, Cushing, or Brown in the future.
 
What's clouding the water, for me, is the overall success of Wade Phillips' newly installed 34 Defense.

Every week, a new guy was taking over the game. Barwin, Reed, Watt, Smith...each game, one of those guys was blasting the other team's QB or always meeting the RB at the LOS, etc.

Will that be a factor for McNair and Smith? As good as Ben Tate has been, I don't think he'd do as well without Foster's style of running. Defenses get accustomed to having to stop and wait for the cutbacks by Foster...so Tate blows right by them in a straight line a lot of times.

Without Mario, the defense was Top 1 or Top 2 depending on the week you go by. What would the offense look like without Foster for 75% of a season? Especially with Yates at QB or perhaps a potentially "lesser" Matt Schaub at QB?

Just thinking out loud, about the factors that might be involved with rationing out the payroll and cap space.
 
GP said:
What's clouding the water, for me, is the overall success of Wade Phillips' newly installed 34 Defense.

Every week, a new guy was taking over the game. Barwin, Reed, Watt, Smith...each game, one of those guys was blasting the other team's QB or always meeting the RB at the LOS, etc.

Will that be a factor for McNair and Smith? As good as Ben Tate has been, I don't think he'd do as well without Foster's style of running. Defenses get accustomed to having to stop and wait for the cutbacks by Foster...so Tate blows right by them in a straight line a lot of times.

Without Mario, the defense was Top 1 or Top 2 depending on the week you go by. What would the offense look like without Foster for 75% of a season? Especially with Yates at QB or perhaps a potentially "lesser" Matt Schaub at QB?

Just thinking out loud, about the factors that might be involved with rationing out the payroll and cap space.
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The thing about the bolded though is that all those other guys got a chance to grow in the system as the season progressed; Behind the acquistion of Wade Phillips, i attribute that growth more than anything else as to the reason for us having so much success in turning around our defense.

The other thing is that Mario hadn't even really hit his stride in the system yet and was still well on his way to a career year by all indications. Looking at it from a different perspective, Reed & Barwin combined for 17.5 sacks last year. You say, ok that's pretty good. But when you factor in that Mario was on pace to get 16 all by himself before he went down, before he got comfy & without really experiencing the growth in the system that the other players did, it doesn't really look all that impressive.

The final thing is people need to get the feelings out of it & start looking at the resigning of Mario like its an acquistion of any other high profile FA that has never played for this team before. If you look at it this way, there's no question that acquiring a talent like Mario would make us better than we already are. Most teams in our position would probably be of the mindset that acquiring a player of Mario's caliber would put their defense over the top..........but only here in Houston do fans think that we could do without such a player.
 
GP said:
What's clouding the water, for me, is the overall success of Wade Phillips' newly installed 34 Defense.

Every week, a new guy was taking over the game. Barwin, Reed, Watt, Smith...each game, one of those guys was blasting the other team's QB or always meeting the RB at the LOS, etc.

Will that be a factor for McNair and Smith? As good as Ben Tate has been, I don't think he'd do as well without Foster's style of running. Defenses get accustomed to having to stop and wait for the cutbacks by Foster...so Tate blows right by them in a straight line a lot of times.

Without Mario, the defense was Top 1 or Top 2 depending on the week you go by. What would the offense look like without Foster for 75% of a season? Especially with Yates at QB or perhaps a potentially "lesser" Matt Schaub at QB?

Just thinking out loud, about the factors that might be involved with rationing out the payroll and cap space.
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Our offense really nose dived after we lost Schaub. Even without Andre, we were still in the top 10. Over 400 yards against Oakland & Tennessee, well over 300 for most of the other games.

But we're still a better offensive football team with Andre than not.

Same on defense.

Go look at the GB Packers schedule leading up to their Super Bowl run. They were the #2 defense in the league. Look at their defense in 2011... dead last. As misleading as that stat may be, it's the same stat that had them rated at #2.

I know you can only play who is in front of you, but that Packer team played a soft offensive schedule, just like we did. Next year, we won't be so lucky. The Packers also got everybody's best game in 2011 since they were Super Bowl Champs. We may not get that, but teams are going to approach us differently than in the past, you can count on that.

Bringing in a healthy Mario Williams & a healthy Demeco Ryans will help us keep a dominating defense, will provide the best environment for JjWatt, Connor Barwin, & Brooks Reed to develop, allow Antonio Smith to go on a sack/game run.... maybe finish the season with double digits for the first time in his career.

Wade Phillips ain't no dummy & he knows he wants Mario.
 
Mr teX said:
The other thing is that Mario hadn't even really hit his stride in the system yet and was still well on his way to a career year by all indications. Looking at it from a different perspective, Reed & Barwin combined for 17.5 sacks last year. You say, ok that's pretty good. But when you factor in that Mario was on pace to get 16 all by himself before he went down, before he got comfy & without really experiencing the growth in the system that the other players did, it doesn't really look all that impressive.
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Antonio Smith was also on pace to make 16 sacks. Connor Barwin 12 sacks. Those three players alone would have counted for 45 sacks. Throw in JjWatt's contributions & Brooks Reed, we'd have over 50. We were also racking up turnovers like nobody's business. No doubt in my mind we would have got to the Super Bowl on the strength of our defense alone.
 
thunderkyss said:
Antonio Smith was also on pace to make 16 sacks. Connor Barwin 12 sacks. Those three players alone would have counted for 45 sacks. Throw in JjWatt's contributions & Brooks Reed, we'd have over 50. We were also racking up turnovers like nobody's business. No doubt in my mind we would have got to the Super Bowl on the strength of our defense alone.
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Woulda coulda shoulda, we have no idea what would have happened if Mario remained.....I think our run defense would have been terrible if he stayed playing....can you dispute that? nope because he didnt play its all opinions

We do know that we were just fine without him......:kitten:
 
amazing80 said:
Woulda coulda shoulda, we have no idea what would have happened if Mario remained.....I think our run defense would have been terrible if he stayed playing....can you dispute that? nope because he didnt play its all opinions

We do know that we were just fine without him......:kitten:
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Okay i can play that game too..we know we did just fine without him THIS year.
 
I would to see Mario stay and settle for a smaller contract, but we all know that isn't going to happen. I just hope he goes to an NFC team and we don't have to play against him in 3-4 years if we're lucky.
 
amazing80 said:
but then youd be lieing to yourslef by ASSUMING their level of play will drop off....
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C'mon, lets not act like were the Ravens or the steelers now; a team with an established track record of fielding a top 10 defense for umpteen years. In 2011, our pretty good offense was derailed with injuries. That could easily happen with us on defense next year....& we do still have Kareem Jackson starting in our secondary.

The real question is why would you ASSUME that their level of play couldn't drop off? I'm sure the packers & the steelers thought the same way you're thinking too in 2011.
 
Mr teX said:
C'mon, lets not act like were the Ravens or the steelers now; a team with an established track record of fielding a top 10 defense for umpteen years. In 2011, our pretty good offense was derailed with injuries. That could easily happen with us on defense next year....& we do still have Kareem Jackson starting in our secondary.

The real question is why would you ASSUME that their level of play couldn't drop off? I'm sure the packers & the steelers thought the same way you're thinking too in 2011.
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The steelers? They fielded a top defense last season


The Packers lost pieces in the secondary due to injury and their front line was terrible and got worse when Jenkins left.....their defense fiested on turnovers in 2010 and they scored often on picks, in 2011 that changed and they forced less turnovers resulting in more offensive tds for opposing teams...


we are a top run defense and without Mario, no reason that will change unless you add one pass rush move Mario to the mix and he continues to bull rush right past runners.....

our pass defense got better because we upgraded our secondary, nothing will change back there unless we improve it with a rookie or a guy like Harris gets better, no reason they will regress
 
amazing80 said:
Texecutioner said:
Hopefully he goes and we can spend money on players that are high motor guys on every play that are worth the money.
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Yup, agreed 10000000% Rep your way
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Antwuan Peek & Jason Babin were high effort, high motor guys.... didn't do crap for our pass rush.

Dunta Robinson was a high effort, high motor guy.... didn't do much for our pass protection.

effort & motor are great, but if you're not getting the job done, you aren't getting the job done.
 
thunderkyss said:
Antwuan Peek & Jason Babin were high effort, high motor guys.... didn't do crap for our pass rush.

Dunta Robinson was a high effort, high motor guy.... didn't do much for our pass protection.

effort & motor are great, but if you're not getting the job done, you aren't getting the job done.
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I like high energy and high motor guys as much as the next fan, but effective is effective. Some guys just have different playing styles.
 
thunderkyss said:
Antwuan Peek & Jason Babin were high effort, high motor guys.... didn't do crap for our pass rush.

Dunta Robinson was a high effort, high motor guy.... didn't do much for our pass protection.

effort & motor are great, but if you're not getting the job done, you aren't getting the job done.
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Peek and Babin were NOT high motor in Houston, and Robinson WAS great until he got hurt, your point is is only valid if they are coupled with absolutely no talent, which is not anyone on our team
 
amazing80 said:
our pass defense got better because we upgraded our secondary, nothing will change back there unless we improve it with a rookie or a guy like Harris gets better, no reason they will regress
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Again, not taking away from Wade or Jjo, most definitely not taking anything away from Jj Watt & Connor Barwin. But we played QBs that couldn't get out of their own way & teams that could not score. Whether they were playing us or an average defense.

& I don't care if Mario isn't a Texans next year. If he wants to leave for greener pastures, more power to him. But if that happens, pass rush becomes our #1 need in the offseason. More than WR, more than "depth"

But to me, a bird in the hand & all that jazz. Instead of drafting another Amobi Okoye, or signing an Anthony Weaver, or Antonio Smith (my version, not yours), I'd much rather have Mario Williams.

& it's cool to disagree... I have no worries. Wade Phillips understands this team is better with Mario Williams, Wade wants Williams back.

So we'll sign Mario, he'll be a Texan, unless he's looking for the biggest paycheck he can get & I've already said I'm fine with that.
 
amazing80 said:
The steelers? They fielded a top defense last season

that got raped in the playoffs by Tim freaking Tebow.


The Packers lost pieces in the secondary due to injury and their front line was terrible and got worse when Jenkins left.....their defense fiested on turnovers in 2010 and they scored often on picks, in 2011 that changed and they forced less turnovers resulting in more offensive tds for opposing teams...


we are a top run defense and without Mario, no reason that will change unless you add one pass rush move Mario to the mix and he continues to bull rush right past runners.....

Yeah, b/c brooks reed & conner barwin never did that...:rolleyes:

our pass defense got better because we upgraded our secondary, nothing will change back there unless we improve it with a rookie or a guy like Harris gets better, no reason they will regress.

unless JJ gets hurt...Lol at harris even being counted as a factor. we're talking about a guy who couldn't even beat out sherrick mcnanis for the #4 spot.
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Way to sidestep my overall point about injuries though; lol right after you listed injuries as being among GB's problems on defense in 2011.
 
Mr teX said:
Way to sidestep my overall point about injuries though; lol right after you listed injuries as being among GB's problems on defense in 2011.
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Injuries are apart of the game but fielding a guy like Mario who is constantly out of position vs the run are 2 different things....we cant predict injuries, but we can predict how people will perform based on their past.....nothing in marios tenure here suggests he is this dominant force that the rest of the talking heads think he is
 
amazing80 said:
Injuries are apart of the game but fielding a guy like Mario who is constantly out of position vs the run are 2 different things....we cant predict injuries, but we can predict how people will perform based on their past.....nothing in marios tenure here suggests he is this dominant force that the rest of the talking heads think he is
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Lol at the bolded..:ok:
 
Mr teX said:
Lol at the bolded..:ok:
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Yeah, I don't know where he comes up with that. I choose to ignore it as it isn't worth the time to argue it.

Speaking of not worth the time of day, Mclain wrote this in one of his articles.


McNutts
Considering the obscene amounts some teams — mostly bad ones — have under the cap, several could guarantee Williams $50 million as a signing bonus. The Texans aren’t in position to offer that.
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Which is nuts. If we're talking about signing Mario to a ~$10M 2012 cap number, then that is totally possible. Give him that $50M bonus (which I am against, just saying it is possible) that's only $8.3M prorated over 6 years. Pay him a $1.5M or $2M salary for 2012 & he's yours for ~$10M 2012 cap..... heck, that would basically be his number for the first 3 years of the contract.

Not likely, that's what Mclain should have said. $42M (3 years) guaranteed would be my absolute top dollar. Now, $50M over 4 years, I could go with that. $2M salary over the first 4 years, then $6M for the final 2 years... that's Charles Johnson money, $70M for 6 years, with a $14.3 cap number over the final 2 years.

But Mario wouldn't go for that. Charles Johnson got $72M
 
thunderkyss said:
Antwuan Peek & Jason Babin were high effort, high motor guys.... didn't do crap for our pass rush.

Dunta Robinson was a high effort, high motor guy.... didn't do much for our pass protection.

effort & motor are great, but if you're not getting the job done, you aren't getting the job done.
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I'm literally drueling in excitement and licking my chops. Just thinking about how great high motor players like Peek and Babin would have been playing in Wade Phillips' system. Babin had 18 sacks in 2011 and 12.5 sacks in 2010. This guy has All Pro ability but never flourished until he was coached up the right way.
 
thunderkyss said:
Yeah, I don't know where he comes up with that. I choose to ignore it as it isn't worth the time to argue it.

Speaking of not worth the time of day, Mclain wrote this in one of his articles.


Which is nuts. If we're talking about signing Mario to a ~$10M 2012 cap number, then that is totally possible. Give him that $50M bonus (which I am against, just saying it is possible) that's only $8.3M prorated over 6 years. Pay him a $1.5M or $2M salary for 2012 & he's yours for ~$10M 2012 cap..... heck, that would basically be his number for the first 3 years of the contract.

Not likely, that's what Mclain should have said. $42M (3 years) guaranteed would be my absolute top dollar. Now, $50M over 4 years, I could go with that. $2M salary over the first 4 years, then $6M for the final 2 years... that's Charles Johnson money, $70M for 6 years, with a $14.3 cap number over the final 2 years.

But Mario wouldn't go for that. Charles Johnson got $72M
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The dumb thing about McClain's proposal is that the teams with tons of capspace don't need to prorate a signing bonus over 6 years. They can just give Mario a 30+ million dollar roster bonus in 2012 to get that cap money off the books and then just pay him salary the rest of the way. 7 mill a year salary for 6 years on top of that would be 72 million total and he's a small hit on the cap for 5 of those years. That would make the most sense to me, unless I have a cheap owner that wants to use his deal to push the team's cap number up each year to meet the minimum in 2013 and beyond.
 
Man, talkin about a bunch of whiners. Did I ever Neg rep someone for Rick Rollin me? Hell no, it's all in fun.

Dutchrudder, I never neg rep, but I might make an exception just for you. :cry:
 
Been saying the same thing for a minute,just as thunder has been saying also. 42m guaranteed in the 1st 3 yrs is 14m per yr. That can be 6yrs 90m with 42m g in 1st 3yrs.

7m sal in each of the 1st 3yrs, 7m roster bonus in the 1st 3yrs. That contract is paid for now. That leaves 48m unguaranteed over the next 3 yrs. Most teams put that in salary and performance bonus to validtae the cntract. So here it is for the millionth time.

4th yr-12m sal 2m roster ,500k for probowl,500k for leading sacks,500k for 80% snaps,500k for 1st team all pro

That can be done for the the next 2 yrs. If the need salary relief and he's playing well after yr 3, they can move his salary to signing bonus and stretch it out. If he sux or is constantly hurt after 1st 3 yrs, then they could cut him and owe $0. Again, I want to repeat to those that don't know,if mario doesn't play well,injured,old,sorry ass after yr 3,the texans could cut him and owe $0 because of his guaranteed 1st 3 yrs. Just like adrian petereson deal with vikings. If this injury is serious and he's not the same, they can cut him after yr 3 and owe $0. That's the huge benefit of guaranteed 1st 3 yrs vs signing bonus.
 
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