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Big Board Thread
- Thread starter beerlover
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beerlover
Hall of Fame
Liuget is far more impressive to me then Heyward but Cameron is probably more attractive to both 3-4 & 4-3 teams. tough to call. Pouncey is best suited to play OG, kinda high yet per position. Gabe & Anthony look more like RT's but elite, not bad to take either here I suppose, but which one & why? Bailey draft stock seems to be falling while Jordans is rising, over Heyward too I think? Need to include your choice of QB @ some point.
bah007
Hall of Fame
I like Liuget a ton more than I like Heyward. But Heyward's versatility pushes him up the board a little bit, I think.
If I'm a 43 team, I love Liuget. If I'm a 34, he probably isn't even on my board.
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
That is just the word in the media and around the interwebs.
Personally I think he will be an AWFUL AWFUL pro.
That is why I hope the Titans snap him up as their QB of the future.
To be honest, I forgot we were doing a Texans big board, so I was ranking them to try to put some order in my mind. I think Jordan may rise up to the top of this group, and I think that Pouncey will go higher than most of the tackles in this draft. I've got Newton mid-twenties and Mallet late twenties.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
this is not a Texans Big Board. It is supposed to be a league wide Big Board. naturally it will have a Texan flavor, hence the 20th rated player, but as a general rule we are working from overall view point & as of right now we are trying to establish #21. my vote is going Cam Newton. I doubt very few boards have him lasting this long & it always seems there is a need for QB's in the NFL.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Mobility is a huge plus for Cam, he can move around in the pocket & shake people off, his decision making is that of a playmaker, his throwing motion is better than Vince Young, he could run a wildcat offense now, would like to see him work out @ TE, he could throw from outside pocket or pull it down & run. Very good athlete, gives lots of options.
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
I'd go, in order, from here on:
Mallett
Nevis
Hayward
Rudolph
Harris
Bailey
...
Mallett
Nevis
Hayward
Rudolph
Harris
Bailey
...
beerlover
Hall of Fame
we also have three OT's still on the board, should be a run on them soon?
1. Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson - 6'4 - 280
2. Nick Fairley, Auburn, (Jr.), 6-4, 298
3. Patrick Peterson, DB, LSU - 6'1 - 222
4. A.J. Green, WR, Georgia - 6'4 - 212
5. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri, (Jr.), 6-5 235
6. Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama - 6'3 - 306
7. Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina - 6'5 - 268
8. Prince Amukamara, DB, Nebraska - 6'1 - 205
9. J.J. Watts, DE/DT, Wisconsin - 6'6 - 290
10. Julio Jones, WR, Alabama - 6'4 - 220
11. Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State - 6'1 - 311
12. Von Miller, DE, Texas A&M - 6'3 - 243
13. Nate Solder, OT, Colorado - 6'9 - 315
14. Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa - 6'4" - 285
15. Akeem Ayers, LB, UCLA - 6'4 - 255
16. Jake Locker, QB, Washington - 6'3 - 230
17. Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama - 5'10 - 215
18. Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue - 6'4 - 263
19. Tyron Smith, OT USC - 6-6 - 290
20. Justin Houston, LB Georgia - 6-3 - 260
21. Cameron Newton, QB, Auburn - 6'6 - 250
22. Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas - 6'6 - 238
1. Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson - 6'4 - 280
2. Nick Fairley, Auburn, (Jr.), 6-4, 298
3. Patrick Peterson, DB, LSU - 6'1 - 222
4. A.J. Green, WR, Georgia - 6'4 - 212
5. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri, (Jr.), 6-5 235
6. Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama - 6'3 - 306
7. Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina - 6'5 - 268
8. Prince Amukamara, DB, Nebraska - 6'1 - 205
9. J.J. Watts, DE/DT, Wisconsin - 6'6 - 290
10. Julio Jones, WR, Alabama - 6'4 - 220
11. Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State - 6'1 - 311
12. Von Miller, DE, Texas A&M - 6'3 - 243
13. Nate Solder, OT, Colorado - 6'9 - 315
14. Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa - 6'4" - 285
15. Akeem Ayers, LB, UCLA - 6'4 - 255
16. Jake Locker, QB, Washington - 6'3 - 230
17. Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama - 5'10 - 215
18. Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue - 6'4 - 263
19. Tyron Smith, OT USC - 6-6 - 290
20. Justin Houston, LB Georgia - 6-3 - 260
21. Cameron Newton, QB, Auburn - 6'6 - 250
22. Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas - 6'6 - 238
beerlover
Hall of Fame
went Mallett after Newton as suggested. this tells me they are going to the combine battle for position/higher grade, then we'll have a better idea of correct order.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
1. Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson - 6'4 - 280
Explosive & disruptive edge rusher. rmartin65 pick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKTEzVBDrrw
2. Nick Fairley, Auburn, (Jr.), 6-4, 298
Nasty interior, unblock-able at times, top DT of 2011 draft.
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77542
3. Patrick Peterson, DB, LSU - 6'1 - 222
Great athlete, premium size/speed package to cover NFL #1 WR's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxqJjwuUCvg
4. A.J. Green, WR, Georgia - 6'4 - 212
Top offensive player in draft, lean body, strong, large hands to pluck ball/maintain possession.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aABY_tEmewg
5. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri, (Jr.), - 6'5 - 235
Great accuracy, smooth release, top rated QB because of it.
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/1/4/1913801/blaine-gabbert-nfl-draft-scouting-report
6. Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama - 6'3 - 306
Solid tackle prospect, well coached, ready to start.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfHwrkeP-Cw
7. Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina - 6'5 - 268
Great Measurable for pass rushing DE.
http://sidelinescouting.com/rankings/de/robert-quinn.shtml
8. Prince Amukamara, DB, Nebraska - 6'1 - 205
Quality NFL caliber CB, very physical & solid in run support.
http://sidelinescouting.com/rankings/cb/prince-amukamara.shtml
9. J.J. Watt, DE/DT, Wisconsin - 6'6 - 290
Maybe the top 3-4 DE in the draft, this underclassman has it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QT2-mRCgX0
10. Julio Jones, WR, Alabama - 6'4 - 220
Not the body or range of AJ Green but very smart football player & possession receiver.
http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-r...laine-gabbert-von-miller-julio-jones-redskins
11. Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State - 6'1 - 311
Under rated on most boards but not this one. Excels at point of contact, bull strong & quick requiring double teams often.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Ftcdl-VRI&feature=related
12. Von Miller, DE, Texas A&M - 6'3 - 243
Projects to 3-4 OLB position. Good instinct & cat quick reflexes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnZSceCN5Yg
13. Nate Solder, OT, Colorado - 6'9 - 315
Anyone who's seen him play knows he stands out on the field not only 6'9" has huge wingspan & surprising footwork to keep would be pass rushers off QB.
http://detroit.sbnation.com/detroit-lions/2011/1/17/1940665/2011-nfl-mock-draft-detroit-lions
14. Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa - 6'4 - 285
Yes his stock has dropped a bit, double teamed most every-time, but still relentless, lots of heart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5R8sdH0tyI
15. Akeem Ayers, LB, UCLA - 6'4 - 255
UCLA was so inconsistent its hard to rate their players but Akeem was all over the field, kinda reminded me of last years 8th pick in the draft Rolando McClain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q14Px6MLRfk
16. Jake Locker, QB, Washington - 6'3 - 230
Looks the part, solid build, strong arm will need to show he can execute NFL playbook.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bC5U5QqPBs
17. Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama - 5'10 - 215
Franchise back for a team who needs immediate running game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bC5U5QqPBs
18. Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue - 6'4 - 263
Relentless 4-3 DE with good moves & sound technique.
19. Tyron Smith, OT USC - 6'6 - 290
Most athletic tackle in class, who fits the ZBS.
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2010/11/29/1844658/tyron-smith-nfl-draft-scouting-report
20. Justin Houston, LB Georgia - 6'3 - 260
Finished the regular season as the SEC sacks leader, that says it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR0L2RVId90
21. Cameron Newton, QB, Auburn - 6'6 - 250
Mobile, superior athlete who relishes leadership role for his team.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/513091-cam-newton-how-high-could-he-be-drafted-in-2011#page/1
22. Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas - 6'6 - 238
Reckless with the ball at times, gunslinger mentality, no questions about his arm strength.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...allett-passed-jake-locker-on-big-board#page/2
23. Anthony Costanzo – OT, Boston College - 6'7 - 308
Sound technique but plays physical, can play LT or RT.
http://www.ncaagridirongab.com/2010...ospect-scouting-report-–-ot-anthony-costanzo/
24. Brandon Harris, CB, Miami - 5'11 - 195
I'm unsure if his slide down is warranted or not? He still has plenty of time to impress scouts & move back into the Top 20.
http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2730
25. Cameron Heyward, DE/DT, Ohio State - 6'5 - 288
Versatile, above-average strength, size, athleticism suggest he could fill in a 3-4 DE.
http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2383
26. Aldon Smith, DE/OLB Missouri - 6'5 - 260
Should be attractive to both 3-4 or 4-3 teams, this could propel him higher leading up to the draft.
http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2010/aug/26/smith-is-left-holding-the-bag-often/
27. Mike Pouncey – OG, Florida - 6'4 - 310
Not as highly touted as his brother Maurkice, he is cut from the same mold, hence his draft stock is elevated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st4cMpEEA30
28. Drake Nevis – DT, LSU - 6'1 - 285
Very disruptive, interior lineman. premium defensive position in NFL.
http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2011/01/lsu_dt_drake_nevis_good_player.html
29. Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State - 6'5 - 305
Highest ranked Senior LT. Great feet & long arms, will need to play stronger/more consistent.
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2010/11/18/1821866/derek-sherrod-nfl-draft-scouting-report
30. Cameron Jordan - DE, California - 6'4 - 285
Athletic 4-3 LDE or possibly a 3-4 DE. Dynamic play maker if left one on one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzIVTNoQHHA
31. Mikel LeShoure, Illinois, (Jr.), - 6'0 - 230
Devastating combination of size & strength. somehow I had dropped him off prospect list, but trust me he is going to be sensational in the NFL. BL pick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpGGOe0D_go
32. Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois - 6'3 - 295
Unblock able in single match-ups. Good core strength, explosive burst off line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlprPUyKL8M
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beerlover
Hall of Fame
Would like to thank all those who did participate, for their input & insight into 2011 class of NFL prospects. In no particular order: JB, bah007, steelbtexan, kiwitexansfan, Super Mario, Honoring Earl 34, jay23728, Ole Miss Texan, rmartin65, ReliantTexan, 76Texan, TexansSeminole, Texan4Ever, YoungTexanFan, Insideop, Doppelganger1, Dutchrudder, drs23, gary, texanchris and of course Badboy. Forgive me if I forgot to mention more, time is short & I felt like this was starting to drag a bit so used all the information provided to wrap things up.
thank you
thank you
Good board,
I like Gabbert alot. (Top 15)
Costanzo is going to be a steal in this draft. He reminds of Matt Light.
Harris is a great value.
Look for Pittsburgh to take Pouncey late in the 1st Rd.
I like Gabbert alot. (Top 15)
Costanzo is going to be a steal in this draft. He reminds of Matt Light.
Harris is a great value.
Look for Pittsburgh to take Pouncey late in the 1st Rd.
This is a great board to work off of. Well done!
Ditto.
I haven't seen all these guys so it's great to have something to work off of.
Just want to add something that I catch as I watch more games:
Bowers was a guy I like since his sophomore year.
I thought he can play on Sunday.
Heard that he dropped 15-20 lbs this year during the Clemson/MD game.
Anybody knows whether the listed weigh here is current?
I think his current weight is 275 - 280 lbs.
Bowers is a special talent, no doubt. Whoever gets him will be pretty lucky.
bah007
Hall of Fame
I think he is just naturally thin. He looks like a basketball player to me. He is an incredible athlete. I know he is pretty tall, but he has excellent body control. I think he would make a great rush LB in a 34. Obviously, he can also play end in a 43.
The final list of underclassmen that have declared:
QUARTERBACKS
Cam Newton, Auburn (1/13/2011)
Ryan Mallett, Arkansas (1/6/2011)
Blaine Gabbert, Missouri (1/3/2011)
RUNNING BACKS
Stevan Ridley, LSU (1/13/2011)
Mikel Leshoure, Illinois (1/11/2011)
Jacquizz Rodgers, Oregon State (1/10/2011)
Jamie Harper, Clemson (1/9/2011)
Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech (1/9/2011)
Dion Lewis, Pittsburgh (1/7/2011)
John Clay, Wisconsin (1/7/2011)
Mark Ingram, Alabama (1/7/2011)
Darren Evans, Virginia Tech (1/6/2011)
Jordan Todman, UConn (1/2/2011)
Shane Vereen, Cal (1/2/2011)
FULLBACKS
Henry Hynoski, Pittsburgh (1/10/2011)
WIDE RECEIVERS
Greg Little, North Carolina
Jamel Hamler, Fresno State
Darvin Adams, Auburn (1/17/2011)
Randall Cobb, Kentucky (1/13/2011)
Jon Baldwin, Pittsburgh (1/10/2011)
A.J. Green, Georgia (1/9/2011)
Julio Jones, Alabama (1/7/2011)
Tandon Doss, Indiana (1/3/2011)
Tori Gurley, South Carolina (1/2/2011)
DeAndre Brown, Southern Miss (12/30/2010)
Torrey Smith, Maryland (12/29/2010)
Vidal Hazelton, Cincinnati (12/27/2010)
TIGHT ENDS
Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame (1/5/2011)
OFFENSIVE LINEMEN
Nick Claytor, Georgia Tech (1/12/2011)
Tyron Smith, USC (12/14/2010)
DEFENSIVE LINEMEN
Marvin Austin, North Carolina
Robert Quinn, North Carolina
Lawrence Guy, Arizona State
Nick Fairley, Auburn (1/14/2011)
Sealver Siligi, Utah (1/12/2011)
Corey Liuget, Illinois (1/12/2011)
Aldon Smith, Missouri (1/7/2011)
Marcell Dareus, Alabama (1/7/2011)
J.J. Watt, Wisconsin (1/6/2011)
DaQuan Bowers, Clemson (1/5/2011)
Muhammad Wilkerson, Temple (1/5/2011)
Zane Parr, Virginia (1/4/2011)
Jurrell Casey, USC (12/14/2010)
Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss (12/4/2010)
LINEBACKERS
Justin Houston, Georgia (1/15/2011)
Martez Wilson, Illinois (1/10/2011)
Tom Keiser, Stanford (1/6/2011)
Akeem Ayers, UCLA (1/4/2011)
DEFENSIVE BACKS
Javes Lewis, Oregon
Will Hill, Florida (1/14/2011)
Jerrard Tarrant, Georgia Tech (1/14/2011)
Tyler Sash, Iowa (1/12/2011)
Patrick Peterson, LSU (1/10/2011)
Robert Sands, West Virginia (1/9/2011)
Rahim Moore, UCLA (1/7/2011)
Brandon Harris, Miami (1/4/2011)
Brandon Burton, Utah (1/3/2011)
Aaron Williams, Texas (12/30/2010)
QUARTERBACKS
Cam Newton, Auburn (1/13/2011)
Ryan Mallett, Arkansas (1/6/2011)
Blaine Gabbert, Missouri (1/3/2011)
RUNNING BACKS
Stevan Ridley, LSU (1/13/2011)
Mikel Leshoure, Illinois (1/11/2011)
Jacquizz Rodgers, Oregon State (1/10/2011)
Jamie Harper, Clemson (1/9/2011)
Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech (1/9/2011)
Dion Lewis, Pittsburgh (1/7/2011)
John Clay, Wisconsin (1/7/2011)
Mark Ingram, Alabama (1/7/2011)
Darren Evans, Virginia Tech (1/6/2011)
Jordan Todman, UConn (1/2/2011)
Shane Vereen, Cal (1/2/2011)
FULLBACKS
Henry Hynoski, Pittsburgh (1/10/2011)
WIDE RECEIVERS
Greg Little, North Carolina
Jamel Hamler, Fresno State
Darvin Adams, Auburn (1/17/2011)
Randall Cobb, Kentucky (1/13/2011)
Jon Baldwin, Pittsburgh (1/10/2011)
A.J. Green, Georgia (1/9/2011)
Julio Jones, Alabama (1/7/2011)
Tandon Doss, Indiana (1/3/2011)
Tori Gurley, South Carolina (1/2/2011)
DeAndre Brown, Southern Miss (12/30/2010)
Torrey Smith, Maryland (12/29/2010)
Vidal Hazelton, Cincinnati (12/27/2010)
TIGHT ENDS
Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame (1/5/2011)
OFFENSIVE LINEMEN
Nick Claytor, Georgia Tech (1/12/2011)
Tyron Smith, USC (12/14/2010)
DEFENSIVE LINEMEN
Marvin Austin, North Carolina
Robert Quinn, North Carolina
Lawrence Guy, Arizona State
Nick Fairley, Auburn (1/14/2011)
Sealver Siligi, Utah (1/12/2011)
Corey Liuget, Illinois (1/12/2011)
Aldon Smith, Missouri (1/7/2011)
Marcell Dareus, Alabama (1/7/2011)
J.J. Watt, Wisconsin (1/6/2011)
DaQuan Bowers, Clemson (1/5/2011)
Muhammad Wilkerson, Temple (1/5/2011)
Zane Parr, Virginia (1/4/2011)
Jurrell Casey, USC (12/14/2010)
Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss (12/4/2010)
LINEBACKERS
Justin Houston, Georgia (1/15/2011)
Martez Wilson, Illinois (1/10/2011)
Tom Keiser, Stanford (1/6/2011)
Akeem Ayers, UCLA (1/4/2011)
DEFENSIVE BACKS
Javes Lewis, Oregon
Will Hill, Florida (1/14/2011)
Jerrard Tarrant, Georgia Tech (1/14/2011)
Tyler Sash, Iowa (1/12/2011)
Patrick Peterson, LSU (1/10/2011)
Robert Sands, West Virginia (1/9/2011)
Rahim Moore, UCLA (1/7/2011)
Brandon Harris, Miami (1/4/2011)
Brandon Burton, Utah (1/3/2011)
Aaron Williams, Texas (12/30/2010)
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
The skinny leg question made me wonder what a speed rusher like Freeney was built like. He seems more solid than Quinn for sure.
great job beerlover thanks for adding the links
beerlover
Hall of Fame
It will be interesting to see how the big Mock Drafts mirror our Big Board we began in December. Even Mel admits teams bypass BPA over need, hence his first official Mock - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...1-nfl-mock-draft-a-pick-by-pick-critique?vm=r compared with picks from Bleacher senior writer John Lorge.
I'm very positive many of our picks will move up these so called experts mock drafts in the coming months.
Once again great job everybody
I'm very positive many of our picks will move up these so called experts mock drafts in the coming months.
Once again great job everybody
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
Here's the heights and weights from the senior bowl .
http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2011weighinDL.php
http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2011weighinDL.php
Texan4Ever
All Pro
Did anyone see or hear about Noel Devine (RB - WVU). Apparently, he weighed in at about 160-lbs after being listed as 180-lbs at WVU. Dude is fast but he needs to bulk up if he wants to play in the NFL.
Walter had a rough comment about him on his site:
Walter had a rough comment about him on his site:
beerlover
Hall of Fame
California WR DeSean Jackson measured in at a disappointing 5-foot-9, 167 pounds in his combine while Jackson was listed at 6-foot, 170-pounds at Cal. So it's not the first time this has happened & by the way DeSean has done alright for himself in Philadelphia, really well when Vick is the QB.
Ndevine7
Rookie
Watching wvu all my life i love noel but i will say that the best he is going to be in the nfl is a sproles type player. 5-7 160/170 pounds runs a 4.3ish but the man is strong. Has maxed out at about 405 and can squat a lot. Watch some film on him and you can tell he has some strength he just nees to stay healthy. That was his demise his senior year. Could be a dynamic returner and a change of pace back as well as a 3rd down back.
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
He also developed a tendency to go for the big play in his junior season. It was really bad in his senior season. He was trying to bounce everything to the outside. Devine was much better in his earlier years at WVU.
Weights that jump out at me:
LB Von Miller 6' 2 5/8" 237 lbs. 237 pounds? He looks it too.
LB Nate Irving 6' 1 1/4" 242 lbs. 3rd round ILB prospect? I like the way he plays. He's a bit small for the position but so was Lawrence Timmons when he was drafted. He's good in coverage and on the blitz.
LB Greg Jones 5' 11 7/8" 240 lbs. Great player but a little short. Reminds me of Buster Davis but not quite as short.
DE Jeremy Beal 6' 2 3/8" 268 lbs. Could he play OLB in the 3-4? He was an athletic end at Oklahoma.
DE Kyan Kerrigan 6' 3 7/8" 255 lbs. I expected him to be in the 260s but maybe he is trying to slim down? It will be interesting to see how he tests.
WR Leonard Hankerson 10 5/8" hands. Biggest of any player not a lineman. No wonder he caught so many TDs for Miami this past year. Maybe we can grab him in the later rounds and have Andre go to work with him.
S DeAndre McDaniel 6' 3/8" 213 lbs. Good size for FS or SS. We'll see how he tests.
S Ahmad Black 5' 9 3/8" 183 lbs. Hmm. I knew he was about 5'9 but 183 pounds is questionable for a safety.
I heard him on the radio this morning talking to LZ. He said he preferred to play at 260-265. But he had dropped down to about 250, and was now putting the weight back on. He said he is trending upward.
Texan4Ever
All Pro
I didn't realize Greg Jones was 5'11". I always thought he was 6'1" but I guess those are inflated numbers. It amazes me that even though he has been productive in college, he is being overlooked by many people outside of MSU fans.
Could he play in a 3-4 scheme? Love to have a productive player like him on our squad.
HoustonFrog
Dallas Frog
Von Miller is moving up this week..probably Top 5 now..every report I've read has him as being the stud in practice
http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter
http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter
Texan4Ever
All Pro
Scott Wright evaluated players based on how they looked during the weigh-in. Good things said about Phily Taylor and Stephen Paea (some comments are downright nasty IMO 
)
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Weigh-In.php
)http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Weigh-In.php
bah007
Hall of Fame
Scott Wright evaluated players based on how they looked during the weigh-in. Good things said about Phily Taylor and Stephen Paea (some comments are downright nasty IMO
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Weigh-In.php
Love the comments about the kickers/punters
drs23
Veteran
Scott Wright evaluated players based on how they looked during the weigh-in. Good things said about Phily Taylor and Stephen Paea (some comments are downright nasty IMO
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Weigh-In.php
Really! Don't show up there flabby or with MAN BOOBS!
Really! Don't show up there flabby or with MAN BOOBS!
For me it was the guy drooling like a teenage girl. "Oooh, he has a 6 pack! Sexy!"
By the way, not jealous. Had a six pack a little while ago, hated not being able to eat.
Blake
MMQB
You cant eat with a six pack?
Some of the best eating ive ever done is with a 6 pack of Lone Star tall boys!
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
Just curious as to where you all have Jimmy Smith CB from Colorado.
I heard today that he is moving to the top of some peoples boards as the best CB in the draft. I really like what I have read about him but haven't seen much tape.
I heard today that he is moving to the top of some peoples boards as the best CB in the draft. I really like what I have read about him but haven't seen much tape.
Texan4Ever
All Pro
I think 76 posted something about him based on tapes and he doesn't seem to immpressed with Smith. He could be right as a few people think he is overrated due to his physical play and his height which is shooting him up the boards.
Ole Miss Texan
Hall of Fame
This probably isn't the most popular idea... but tell me about Solder a little bit. From what I'm reading, he could be an elite LT that reminds some of Joe Thomas. Supposedly has good feet and can block well for screens and get to the 2nd level.
Thoughts of the potential on this guy at LT for us? Move Brown inside to Guard or RT. Winston stays at RT or moves into G?
I know we all want defense but man, Is Duane Brown the answer at LT for us and do you pass on a potential franchise LT?
I love him as the future LT for the Texans. I dont know if he is 6'9", but 6'7" at the least. He has an incredible frame, could probably get to 330 lbs without losing agility. Great footwork, decent strength, and can play with a nasty attitude (I would like to see it more often though). Because he needs to bulk up and could stand to work on technique, I think it will take a year to be a starter. He is a fringe first that I would love in the case of a trade back, or if he lasts until the Texans' 2nd rounder.
Move Brown to LG, and the line looks pretty decent.
Solder measured in at 6'8-1/4 at the Sr. Bowl.
I think he will be the first or 2nd LT taken, and that's most likely in the first round.
I would be very tempted to trade back and get him if you think he's still there in the eraly twenty.
I would move Brown to RT (he started out playing there for VT) and slide Winston to the inside.
I do believe that arm length is an issue with Winston on the outside.
Ole Miss Texan
Hall of Fame
Thanks for the feedback. I havn't really watched him.
One thing that concerned me this past season, it just seemed like Winston got beat by speed more than I ever remembered before. Brown doesn't scream franchise LT to me, but what I do see is a very solid, versatile o-lineman. In that sense, I really don't think he was a reach when we got him. I think Brown is a better pass blocker than Winston. Solder-Brown could make awesome book ends. Push Winston inside to RG, I think he would hold his own in pass blocking and the right side would be stronger in run blocking (possibly). Winston is tall himself and I don't normally like such tall interior o-linemen. Wade Smith seemed to be good over on the left, I don't ever remember screaming his name. Myers definitely improved this season. Caldwell is a great backup, I still really want him to work out at Center though. But I'm actually a fan of Myers.
Just thinking outloud. Trade down for him would be enticing. Still prefer a defensive stud though.
Oh no, that was Prince Amukamara that I think was overrated.
I like Smith alright. I just wanted to study him a little more (I've only been concentrating on him in two games: Mizzou & Georgia).
I'm not at all surprised somebody think he's the best corner prospect in this draft.
If you watch him play against AJ Green, you would tend to agree.
Green tallied 7 catches for 119 yds and 2 TDs in that game, none on Smith's watch.
Smith prevented two highly possible TD throws to Green and dissuade the QB to throw that way two or three other times.
(Not that I think it's a good idea to have single coverage on Green, no matter how fun it was to watch that match-up.)
beerlover
Hall of Fame
I doubt Solder is a good fit for Texans. Derek Sherrod would fit seamless in Texans ZBS. We did have him rated much higher originally but bumped him down later in first round. He is much more mobile & can reach the second level only 6053 305 his ability to move in space will be showcased @ the combine. played against some tough competition in SEC @ Mississippi State.
Texan4Ever
All Pro
Oh ok, Smith is drawing my attention because of his height and he sorrta resembles Aso's play but he seems to be a bit more physical.
Well, BL, I just finished watching the third Colorado game (this one is against OU), and I would say that Solder is a perfect fit for the Texans.
The Buffaloes played a mix of ZBS and power (mostly ZBS), and I saw Solder made a lot of blocks that D.Brown did.
- He went to the second level to take on the LBs several times.
- One remarkable block is when he reached to the right (play side) to cut block the DT (not the DE); he then get up quickly to block the weak side safety that came down to support the run.
- He pulled all the way to the right side once.
- One time they placed the TE on his side; Solder would pull to the outside and went on to block the LB in for the outside run.
- Another excellent play was when he pass blocked on the DE, then quickly switched to the outside to take on the rushing OLB.
I'm thinking, at the moment, that he's the #1 tackle in this draft.
As I mentioned, I just watched the Colorado/OU game.
Once again, Smith showed that he's the complete package.
He has size, speed, phisicality, loose hips, good burst, good techniques.
He knows how to locate the ball so he can put a hand on the receiver without being called PI.
He turns and runs smoothly, mirroring the deep routes well.
He plays the cloud technique well in run support.
He will pursues the run to the other side of the field.
He can come in quickly on a corner blitz.
If his plays mirror the 3 games that I have watched so far, I think I would have to put him as the #1 rated CB in this draft.
Man, Olemiss, I want badly to have Smith and Solder both for the Texans.