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Should Kubiak be the Head Coach next season?

Should Kubiak be the Head Coach next season?

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Marcus said:
And you're actually telling me that you don't know already?:rolleyes:

Another one that's supposedly half-way intelligent trying to act dumb.
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I see posters carpet-bomb anti-Kubiak takes all week long. Seeing this brought about questions.

1. "How many of these people are there?"

2. "Are there a lot of them or just a few real vocal ones?"

The funny thing is that the people that voted "yes" aren't really all that antagonistic to other posters.
 
UBC I agree with you about the owner.

But this organization needs to be cleaned out and an experienced proven winner be brought in to run this team.

Somebody like Parcells who will stand up to McNair so that the best team possible will be put on the field.
 
Pantherstang84 said:
You know what the insults and name calling are uncalled for. I don't recall anyone calling you out or anything today. Apparently, you have appointed yourself the fan police and have decided to bully others just because they disagree with you. Well a pox on your house. We will continue to speak our minds whether you like it or not.
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I don't have any problem with anyone who disagrees with me, or anyone who speaks their mind.

I'm just saying this is just another "fire Kubiak" thread, which it is, and don't try to blow smoke up my ass and tell me it's not.
 
Marcus said:
I don't have any problem with anyone who disagrees with me, or anyone who speaks their mind.

I'm just saying this is just another "fire Kubiak" thread, which it is, and don't try to blow smoke up my ass and tell me it's not.
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Who the hell "blew smoke up your ass"?


Y'all are the ones who drug this thread down into the gutter and TURNED IT INTO ANOTHER "FIRE KUBIAK" THREAD. So don't go blowing smoke up my ass. :rolleyes:

Again, if a thread like this doesn't interest you, simply don't post in it.
 
Marcus said:
And you're actually telling me that you don't know already?:rolleyes:

Another one that's supposedly half-way intelligent trying to act dumb.
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So Mr. White posts a thread to see where the fan's feelings are on this like they've had the last two years and all of a sudden you have this huge issue with it?? For what? Why? Because it indicates that the majority of fans are fed up with Kubiak and you can't handle it? Cry me a river already and stop attacking folks over this. It's your personal decision to have faith in Kubiak no matter what his results are. Don't expect others to have those same feelings who want to see a real football team. The fact that you would attack other passionate fans that actually care enough to vent this stuff instead of the HC that's been holding this franchise back says more about you as being a poor fan (If there is one in this case) than it does about the fans who expect more from this regime.
 
Marcus said:
I don't have any problem with anyone who disagrees with me, or anyone who speaks their mind.

I'm just saying this is just another "fire Kubiak" thread, which it is, and don't try to blow smoke up my ass and tell me it's not.
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I guess it's a matter of perspective. I want him fired and I started this as a "how many people want Kubiak fired" thread.

You want him to stay and therefore you see this as another "Fire Kubiak" thread.
 
I love how you guys think I'm some pro-Kubiak guy. Jesus, I wish I knew about this site last year so you guys could have seen how much venom I spewed at the guy.

The reason I haven't voted in this thread is, well, I've said it already. It's a loaded question with conditions excluding legitimate questions that aren't known at the moment.

I said I would probably get rid of him, I don't know why people are so up in arms about me or my opinion in this thread.

My main contention is that people are rational in their criticisms. Just because I'm new here doesn't mean I'm not entitled to the same discussion, nor does it mean I have to fall in line with every single little thing. I thought this was a message board.

If you're going to insult me or my intelligence by posting emoticons of Homer or saying things when I'm not around to defend myself as if I'm some sort of troll, then that's not a good way to conduct business as a message board community. Also, if the negative/positive reputation thing isn't to be used on posts deemed ridiculous or harsh or whatever, then why is it in place? Serious question, I'd like to know what its used for otherwise.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
I love how you guys think I'm some pro-Kubiak guy. Jesus, I wish I knew about this site last year so you guys could have seen how much venom I spewed at the guy.

The reason I haven't voted in this thread is, well, I've said it already. It's a loaded question with conditions excluding legitimate questions that aren't known at the moment.

I said I would probably get rid of him, I don't know why people are so up in arms about me or my opinion in this thread.

My main contention is that people are rational in their criticisms. Just because I'm new here doesn't mean I'm not entitled to the same discussion, nor does it mean I have to fall in line with every single little thing. I thought this was a message board.

If you're going to insult me or my intelligence by posting emoticons of Homer or saying things when I'm not around to defend myself as if I'm some sort of troll, then that's not a good way to conduct business as a message board community. Also, if the negative/positive reputation thing isn't to be used on posts deemed ridiculous or harsh or whatever, then why is it in place? Serious question, I'd like to know what its used for otherwise.
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It might help if you weren't storming into threads like an angry bull and handing out neg rep to folks like it's Christmas every time Kubiak gets criticized about something. Get what you give.
 
Texecutioner said:
It might help if you weren't storming into threads like an angry bull and handing out neg rep to folks like it's Christmas every time Kubiak gets criticized about something. Get what you give.
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Honestly want to know what the system is in place for. A lot of people criticize the team, staff, and management but they do so in more constructive ways. I don't ding them down. I just ding down ones I find blatantly wrong, harsh, insulting, etc.

On the only other community I've been a part of that had a rep/karma system, this was a normal way to do things. I'm asking a serious question. If it's not for that, then what's it for? Just a symbolic thing?
 
TheMatrix31 said:
If you're going to insult me or my intelligence by posting emoticons of Homer or saying things when I'm not around to defend myself as if I'm some sort of troll, then that's not a good way to conduct business as a message board community. Also, if the negative/positive reputation thing isn't to be used on posts deemed ridiculous or harsh or whatever, then why is it in place? Serious question, I'd like to know what its used for otherwise.
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Hold on a second... How was posting "homer" a insult towards your intelligence? If you took it like that, that's your problem....you know what a real insult on someone's intelligence is?

Marcus said:
And you're actually telling me that you don't know already?:rolleyes:

Another one that's supposedly half-way intelligent trying to act dumb.
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Also, please spare us on how we need to "conduct our business"...this is one of the best boards around and has gotten by just fine, before you tried to hall monitor the crap out of it.


Also how did people attack you when you "weren't around to defend yourself"?... This is a message board, people post stuff according to their own personal schedule and availability, not your personal schedule or your personal availability.

And this is the post that you negatively repped...

Carr Bombed said:
People are going at each other, because we still have a couple of officer Barbrady's around here who act like this team isn't a terd sandwich and they get upset when other fans won't bury their heads in the sand along with them.

35-0 now...
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:) LOL, nowhere did I even personally name you? I was just making a honest observation. A observation that y'all are doing your damnedest to prove true.
 
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TheMatrix31 said:
Honestly want to know what the system is in place for. A lot of people criticize the team, staff, and management but they do so in more constructive ways. I don't ding them down. I just ding down ones I find blatantly wrong, harsh, insulting, etc.

On the only other community I've been a part of that had a rep/karma system, this was a normal way to do things. I'm asking a serious question. If it's not for that, then what's it for? Just a symbolic thing?
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What was so wrong about what I posted...

Sorry, but it's the truth.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Hold on a second... How was posting "homer" a insult towards your intelligence? If you took it like that, that's your problem....you know what a real insult on someone's intelligence is?



Also, please spare us on how we need to "conduct our business"...this is one of the best boards around and has gotten by just fine, before you tried to hall monitor the crap out of it.


Also how did people attack you when you "weren't around to defend yourself"?... This is a message board, people post stuff according to their own personal schedule and availability, not your personal schedule or your personal availability.

And this is the post that you negatively repped...




Nowhere did I even personally name you, I was just making a honest observation. A observation that y'all are doing your damnedest to prove true.
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I'm not stupid. I know when I'm being referred to. And yes, obviously a Homer emoticon is meant to be an insult as well. Homer Simpson is known for being a moron, why else would you post it? Sure as hell isn't a compliment. "If you took it like that, that's your problem" sounds like crap people used to say on the old political board I used to frequent. Nothing but a bunch of dodgy nonsense.

I'm sure it got along fine before I got here.

Whatever man.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
I'm not stupid. I know when I'm being referred to. And yes, obviously a Homer emoticon is meant to be an insult as well. Homer Simpson is known for being a moron, why else would you post it? Sure as hell isn't a compliment. "If you took it like that, that's your problem" sounds like crap people used to say on the old political board I used to frequent. Nothing but a bunch of dodgy nonsense.

I'm sure it got along fine before I got here.

Whatever man.
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Holy ****.

Okay, now you just triggered my biggest pet peeve. Do not "politically correct" my post. I do not buy in or fold in to that crap. It's bullcrap and that's exactly what I call it.

If you can't see what the hell "Homer" is supposed to represent and why he's a emoticon on sports MBs web wide then I don't know what to say... I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though and assume you know exactly what that emoticon is supposed to represent and you're just trying to be cute here.

When somebody posts :homer: it doesn't mean that you're a beer drinking, bald, plant working, moron. :rolleyes: Jeez, I've seen it all now. For Christ's sake.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Holy ****.

Okay, now you just triggered my biggest pet peeve. Do not "politically correct" my post. I do not buy in or fold in to that crap. It's bullcrap and that's exactly what I call it.

If you can't see what the hell "Homer" is supposed to represent and why he's a emoticon on sports MBs web wide then I don't know what to say... I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though and assume you know exactly what that emoticon is supposed to represent and you're just trying to be cute here.

When somebody posts :homer: it doesn't mean that you're a beer drinking, bald, plant working, moron. :rolleyes: Jeez, I've seen it all now. For Christ's sake.
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Yes, I get that it means "homer", like a homer for the team. It also means moron, because that usually goes hand-in-hand. I am neither a homer nor a moron.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
Yes, I get that it means "homer", like a homer for the team. It also means moron, because that usually goes hand-in-hand. I am neither a homer nor a moron.
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BULLCRAP!


Like I said before, I'm not going to buy your "political correctness" B.S. Reaching into the back pocket and throwing the B.S. flag on that one. You know EXACTLY what the emoticon means and meant when I posted it and the context in which it was intended for. I've even posted it on myself in the past. Please put that tired worn out systematic "crutch" away, it's invalid here. Null and void.


Anyways, back on topic

87 to 3 is deafening. I don't care what a poster says about us "already knowing and how this thread should be shut down" (Which I don't understand at all), We sure as hell didn't expect this...and if you could get them to tell the truth, neither did they. 87-3 is a straight skunk and pretty much unanimous. I hope McNair sees it...which is the reason why threads like this SHOULD NOT be shut down. This is one of the few mediums where the fans can actually express their opinions and demands. McNair needs to see that 97% of fans want Kubiak gone.
 
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Carr Bombed said:
Holy ****.

Okay, now you just triggered my biggest pet peeve. Do not "politically correct" my post. I do not buy in or fold in to that crap. It's bullcrap and that's exactly what I call it.

If you can't see what the hell "Homer" is supposed to represent and why he's a emoticon on sports MBs web wide then I don't know what to say... I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though and assume you know exactly what that emoticon is supposed to represent and you're just trying to be cute here.

When somebody posts :homer: it doesn't mean that you're a beer drinking, bald, plant working, moron. :rolleyes: Jeez, I've seen it all now. For Christ's sake.
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Actually I don't think I knew what homer meant until I started coming to this board. I don't know if I've ever heard it mentioned in real life. Then again I might just not remember.

Anyway, just saying.
 
wagonhed said:
Actually I don't think I knew what homer meant until I started coming to this board. I don't know if I've ever heard it mentioned in real life. Then again I might just not remember.

Anyway, just saying.
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You never heard the expression "homer" before???..

I guess it's possible and I believe you if you say it (honestly I do), but Matrix already admitted (that he was a mod on a previous board and) that he already knew what it was, even though in a previous post he said that there was no possible alternate meaning or intent other than calling someone stupid...

First he types...

TheMatrix31 said:
I'm not stupid. I know when I'm being referred to. And yes, obviously a Homer emoticon is meant to be an insult as well. Homer Simpson is known for being a moron, why else would you post it? Sure as hell isn't a compliment.
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And then he posts...

TheMatrix31 said:
Yes, I get that it means "homer", like a homer for the team. It also means moron, because that usually goes hand-in-hand. I am neither a homer nor a moron.
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This is how I know that he's trying to bull**** me and trying to use the great almighty national crutch that is "political correctness". Basically...

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Don't try to B.S. a B.S.er... The guy has been trying to derail and shutdown this thread from jump street and has not offered anything productive to this thread at all. I don't know why he just doesn't move on to another topic if he doesn't like the subject matter in this thread. As a self-proclaimed "previous MOD" he should already know that.
 
Alright man, you want some sort of triumphant victory then have it. How about we just agree to put each other on ignore and move on? I'm willing to do that if you are.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
Alright man, you want some sort of triumphant victory then have it. How about we just agree to put each other on ignore and move on? I'm willing to do that if you are.
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I have never put another poster on ignore in 8 years and I won't start now. If you want to put me on ignore fine, but I won't put you on ignore. I think your biggest problem here is you take things too personally. You put yourself in the middle when people are just attacking the team and you act like it's a attack against you.


Anyways I look forward to more posts and I don't ignore people. There's been plenty of posters that I wanted to ignore early on that became some of my favorite posters later on (For instance, I'm now curious as HELL to read thunderkyss' posts since he's now a "soaper". If I ignored him I would miss out on that. This board is a family and we as fans need to unite and remember that WE'RE THE ONES GETTING SCREWED as a collective group, regardless of our opinion. I'm also not looking for some "triumphant victory", just don't try to B.S. me. To quote SP, it's obvious that I'm "a little country" and you're a little "rock n roll", we go about things differently, but in the end......we want the same thing...and that is a winning football team.
 
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Carr Bombed said:
I have never put another poster on ignore in 8 years and I won't start now. If you want to put me on ignore fine, but I won't put you on ignore. I think your biggest problem here is you take things too personally. You put yourself in the middle when people are just attacking the team and you act like it's a attack against you.


Anyways I look forward to more posts and I don't ignore people. I'm also not looking for some "triumphant victory", just don't B.S. me.
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Alright, I can respect that. It really is nothing personal, trust me. I'm a passionate guy when talking about sports (or anything). ThaShark316, Fiasco West, and RTP can vouch for me, I've known them from another board for a long time. It's just the way I am. Sometimes it comes across well, other times it doesn't.

No harm, no foul.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
I got you back. Don't know who the hell negative reps people over some petty BS and disagreements. Sad.
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I AM looking for an explanation about the rep system still though, lol. You guys think I'm BSing or something but I really want to know. If its not for things that one finds disagreeable or things that are presented in an abrasive fashion, or whatever....then whats it for?
 
TheMatrix31 said:
I AM looking for an explanation about the rep system still though, lol. You guys think I'm BSing or something but I really want to know. If its not for things that one finds disagreeable or things that are presented in an abrasive fashion, or whatever....then whats it for?
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You negative rep trolls and people who are just complete asses. No need to negative rep someone who disagrees with you because you can't handle a debate. That's just stupid. Some posters are softer than Kubiak.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
You negative rep trolls and people who are just complete asses. No need to negative rep someone who disagrees with you because you can't handle a debate. That's just stupid. Some posters are softer than Kubiak.
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Ok, but I've been dinging down people who don't seem to understand what I'm saying or sometimes skew what I'm trying to say, or people who, like you said, come off as complete asses.

I guess I'll just stop using the function.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
Alright, I can respect that. It really is nothing personal, trust me. I'm a passionate guy when talking about sports (or anything). ThaShark316, Fiasco West, and RTP can vouch for me, I've known them from another board for a long time. It's just the way I am. Sometimes it comes across well, other times it doesn't.

No harm, no foul.
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and likewise... I can recognize passion when I see it and sometimes it causes people to lash out at those who have a common goal......"A PLAYOFF CALIBER FOOTBALL TEAM".

We as fans deserve better and that's something I'm sure we can all agree on......with ALL OF OUR TEAMS.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
Ok, but I've been dinging down people who don't seem to understand what I'm saying or sometimes skew what I'm trying to say, or people who, like you said, come off as complete asses.

I guess I'll just stop using the function.
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You did that? Yeah, it's best you don't use the function. No offense.

Carr Bombed said:
and likewise... I can recognize passion when I see it and sometimes it causes people to lash out at those who have a common goal......"A PLAYOFF CALIBER FOOTBALL TEAM".

We as fans deserve better and that's something I'm sure we can all agree on......with ALL OF OUR TEAMS.
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We would be all happy and jolly here if the team was winning. Just the thought of another long offseason, etc., and the possibility of no football next year just sucks. We could have had it this year.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
Ok, but I've been dinging down people who don't seem to understand what I'm saying or sometimes skew what I'm trying to say, or people who, like you said, come off as complete asses.

I guess I'll just stop using the function.
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Don't stop using the function, it's just that the unwritten rule around here is you use it to punish trolls (or corporate self promoting spammers trying to sell jerseys, which we've gotten alot of around here)....and never a passionate true Texans fan. As you can see, I never neg repped you, or even Marcus when he questioned my intelligence. Regardless of how we feel, we're all suffering as Houston sports fans right now and it sucks BIG TIME, we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore. :)
 
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GuerillaBlack said:
We would be all happy and jolly here if the team was winning. Just the thought of another long offseason, etc., and the possibility of no football next year just sucks. We could have had it this year.
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In all honestly I didn't expect this team to go to the playoffs with this schedule and last season is the year where I felt they "should of had it". (Kubiak's "We're freaking winners Bob!" speech didn't really help :kubepalm: and I think Kubiak mortally wounded his coaching career here last season) Sometimes I think it gets lost on people how incredibly easy last year's schedule was and Kubiak screwed the pooch.....now he's going to pay for it this season and rightfully so.

If he makes the playoffs last season (which he should have) he'd be feeling ALOT less heat this year. However none of this matters anymore, I'm at the point where I just want Kubiak gone. I no longer care who's at fault, I just want a change, because it's obvious they're stuck in the mud and a change is due.

Basically where I was 4 years ago with Carr, is how I now feel about Kubiak... http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=510852#post510852..

Carr Bombed said:
This is not a Carr hate thread, I supported Carr for 5 years, I hope he moves on somewhere else, but its time to move on in Houston.

This is a talented team.......let me say that again........this team has talent, we held the Jets to a field goal and were wore down late.......same story different week. Its time for a change, Sage can play and the results will be the same.
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... Just replace Carr with Kubiak in the above post and replace Sage with "anybody" as well as "can play" with "can coach" and you'll have my exact feeling on this subject.

I no longer care who's fault it is and if you constantly tell us how it's on you, well I'm going to begin to believe you...especially when we see the same exact crap year after year. We're getting to the point where it's time to let Kubiak go, just because......well it's time to try something new. The guy has had PLENTY of opportunites...alot more chances than other coaches were afforded.
 
^good post, seriously.

It comes to a point here sometimes, you get the feel like it just might not get done no matter what. My point of contention earlier was about wrongly attributing the blame certain weeks/plays/performances/mistakes to certain people or players, but if you look at it like above, where it really is just past the point of pointing fingers and being tired of the same old, same old, then maybe it really is just time to bite the bullet and make the change.

Now, this change wouldn't (and shouldn't) come midseason, because we can't go get the right guy in the middle of the season, and we sure as hell don't want to promote Dennison/Bush/other to the head coaching position. Just chalk up the rest of the year as an evaluation period for what you have and what you can work with, and move on accordingly.

Sometimes, a coach is just someone who builds you into something respectable, and it takes someone else to take the next step. Obviously this happened with Gruden taking over Dungy in TB, for example, and a few other situations. For that, I'll respect Kubiak. Mediocre is a helluva lot better than what we had under Capers, but its never going to be the end game.
 
b0ng said:
Reasons Lucky listed are good reasons why I think Kubiak should be under some pretty intense scrutiny this year by Bob, extension or not.

Basically for me it comes down to how well the defense performs. I think unless we see a rash of injuries the passing game is going to remain high end. The running game, ehhhh, but the aerial attack should still be in place. But if the defense can't hold decent teams to under 25 points we are always going to be in a shoot-out and that's not a good recipe to win.

Frank Bush is probably going to sink Kubiak in the long run.
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I said this May :kubepalm:
 
Marcus said:
Are you telling me that you actually expected different results in the heat of the moment after that type of loss?

If you did, maybe you really are a ...........
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You could also say that a tremendous feeling of deja-vu probably washed over everybody once the game was over and the Texans were 4-5.
 
Speaking of neg rep.

Dale now that you've come to see the light, can I get some positive rep from you to make up for the neg rep that I got earlier.

Seeing how last I checked people seem to be 106-4 in agreement with my stance on Kubes. LOL

Glad to have you on board.
 
Marcus said:
Are you telling me that you actually expected different results in the heat of the moment after that type of loss?
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I didn't expect a "different result" :rolleyes: Just didn't expect that landslide that it ended up being, 105 to 5......come on.

Marcus said:
If you did, maybe you really are a ...........
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Wow, another insult....what else is new?
So what does that make other posters like....

Kaiser Toro said:
An interesting data point capturing the emotional heartbeat of the fanatics.The results of the poll are pretty amazing in my opinion. Would have never thought the difference would be that large. Could be sticky worthy.

:kubepalm:
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Who were also surprised with the poll #s.....yet for some reason you keep coming into a thread in which you have no interest in, contribute nothing of value to, just to quote my posts. :rolleyes:

All you're doing is repeatedly showing your ass in this thread. :kubepalm:
 
This poll is pretty telling. Fans want change. I, too, voted for change, but there are a number of things that I do like about the Kubiak regime. For one, I admire the patience with which they have built this team. They have built the team with young players through the draft, and I am fully on board with that strategy. I know a lot of people get on them for not spending the big bucks on free agents, but free agents tend to be over-priced and under-achieving. I believe that building a team this way is how you get a product that is good for many years.

On the other hand, Kubiak's game time decisions and his lack of defensive knowledge have really cost us games. It doesn't matter how strong you build up a team, if you don't get W's on game day then it really doesn't matter.

Kubiak's biggest downfall is hiring an inexperienced defensive coordinator. With his own defensive deficiencies, he should have put someone in place who could get the job done on his own. Taking a risk on Frank Bush was stupid, because if Bush failed then Kubiak simply wouldn't have the ability to take over the defense on his own. This is why I believe that Kubiak should be fired.
 
TexCanada said:
This poll is pretty telling. Fans want change. I, too, voted for change, but there are a number of things that I do like about the Kubiak regime. For one, I admire the patience with which they have built this team. They have built the team with young players through the draft, and I am fully on board with that strategy. I know a lot of people get on them for not spending the big bucks on free agents, but free agents tend to be over-priced and under-achieving. I believe that building a team this way is how you get a product that is good for many years.

On the other hand, Kubiak's game time decisions and his lack of defensive knowledge have really cost us games. It doesn't matter how strong you build up a team, if you don't get W's on game day then it really doesn't matter.

Kubiak's biggest downfall is hiring an inexperienced defensive coordinator. With his own defensive deficiencies, he should have put someone in place who could get the job done on his own. Taking a risk on Frank Bush was stupid, because if Bush failed then Kubiak simply wouldn't have the ability to take over the defense on his own. This is why I believe that Kubiak should be fired.
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Kubiak also took a risk on Richard Smith, also a man who'd never coordinated
a defense. Two huge mistakes on the defensive side of the ball cost Kubiak.
I'm not willing to give him a pass on his Frank Bush decision, because it's
the same mistake he made in his very first season as a head coach.
 
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