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Texans gonna finally beat the colts?

Grforces said:
Im new here, I just recently started following the Texans for the 09 season. I cant seem to get enough. Anyways besides that check out what NFL TA is saying. What you guys think?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d8183cbdc/Conquering-the-Colts
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Great first post. I think Solomon & Rod hit on some key points, and I think they did a good job reviewing the Texans.

I think Solomon hit the nail on the head... there is a mental block there, that we have got to get over.
 
Basically we have to not collapse in hilarious fashion if we are to beat the Colts.
 
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OK. maybe the Magic 8-Ball is pure speculation.

But I just have to see us beat the Colts before I believe it will be done. And even then, it would still be possibly just a fluke.

Until it happens more regularly, it has to be treated as a fluke unless it's an obvious changing-of-the-guard type of game where we dominate from start to finish.
 
GP said:
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OK. maybe the Magic 8-Ball is pure speculation.

But I just have to see us beat the Colts before I believe it will be done. And even then, it would still be possibly just a fluke.

Until it happens more regularly, it has to be treated as a fluke unless it's an obvious changing-of-the-guard type of game where we dominate from start to finish.
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The sad part is there's been about 3 or 4 games in the past 3 or 4 seasons where we pretty much do dominate them until about halfway through the 4th quarter. Then we don our rodeo clown outfits and make a spectacle of ourselves.
 
Finally???

We have beat the Colts before.

I know it's nothing to hang your hat on, but "finally" is not the word I would use......
 
b0ng said:
The sad part is there's been about 3 or 4 games in the past 3 or 4 seasons where we pretty much do dominate them until about halfway through the 4th quarter. Then we don our rodeo clown outfits and make a spectacle of ourselves.
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Yeah, I agree.

It's just sad. I think having David Carr lining up against Peyton Manning has instilled an overall lack of confidence by our whole team. When we had Carr, we had no chance on offense at all. And our defense was facing a great Qb entering his prime. It was double-doomsday for us.

And we just haven't climbed out of that pit yet.

It's like the abused girlfriend who finds herself perpetually in abusive relationships. She doesn't know anything else. And when it looks like she's about to land a great guy, she self-destructs under the pressure and reverts back to bad relationships. It's just a funk that we've got going on.

I hope we really nail those Colts this year. A really good, severe beatdown that leaves no question about it. That'll be almost enough for me.
 
GP said:
Yeah, I agree.

It's just sad. I think having David Carr lining up against Peyton Manning has instilled an overall lack of confidence by our whole team. When we had Carr, we had no chance on offense at all. And our defense was facing a great Qb entering his prime. It was double-doomsday for us.

And we just haven't climbed out of that pit yet.

It's like the abused girlfriend who finds herself perpetually in abusive relationships. She doesn't know anything else. And when it looks like she's about to land a great guy, she self-destructs under the pressure and reverts back to bad relationships. It's just a funk that we've got going on.

I hope we really nail those Colts this year. A really good, severe beatdown that leaves no question about it. That'll be almost enough for me.
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Most of the people who lined up with Carr are pretty much gone now. There's no reason for this team to be so shell shocked against the Colts when it's obvious that we do have enough firepower to beat them (As evidenced by at least a few games over the past 2 or 3 seasons) but we just go 3 stooges when it's time to put them away.

Yeah, Peyton is probably going to shred the secondary like he does to 90% of the NFL teams out there, but I think that the Colts have enough problems covering AJ and Daniels that we can take advantage of them. It's always always some super boneheaded plays that give the Colts a nice fat W in the waning minutes.

I love that we start our season off against them. Sure they may seem nigh unbeatable, but if you want the season to be a success there is no better place to start than at home against Indy.
 
b0ng said:
Most of the people who lined up with Carr are pretty much gone now. There's no reason for this team to be so shell shocked against the Colts when it's obvious that we do have enough firepower to beat them (As evidenced by at least a few games over the past 2 or 3 seasons) but we just go 3 stooges when it's time to put them away.

Yeah, Peyton is probably going to shred the secondary like he does to 90% of the NFL teams out there, but I think that the Colts have enough problems covering AJ and Daniels that we can take advantage of them. It's always always some super boneheaded plays that give the Colts a nice fat W in the waning minutes.

I love that we start our season off against them. Sure they may seem nigh unbeatable, but if you want the season to be a success there is no better place to start than at home against Indy.
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I think it's the knowledge that you're not the bext on your own block. And that the difference between the block bully and us is VERY large. Over time, you just can't visualize actually getting past them...until the bully gets so old that his body wears down and is vulnerable.

I think it started in the Carr years, and my assertion (as you said) is probably not a good one. We could have had a really good QB under center and it wouldn't have mattered with where Manning and that Colts team were at that time.

We have to hope that the block's bully has slipped in his ability to dominate. We need a small opening to exploit, and then we'll be OK. These things are cyclical anyways. No team dominates for like 10 years or more. They all hit a low spot at some point. We just have to hope that we hit our peak when the other three teams in our division are in decline. That, to me, is the perfect recipe for a good run at the title over multiple seasons. The Colts have leveraged that sort of recipe for a long time now.
 
GP said:
We have to hope that the block's bully has slipped in his ability to dominate. We need a small opening to exploit, and then we'll be OK. These things are cyclical anyways. No team dominates for like 10 years or more. They all hit a low spot at some point. We just have to hope that we hit our peak when the other three teams in our division are in decline. That, to me, is the perfect recipe for a good run at the title over multiple seasons. The Colts have leveraged that sort of recipe for a long time now.
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I don't think the Colts are gonna slip much this year if at all.

For what it's worth, I agree with much of what everyone has said in this thread. The talent for Houston to beat the Colts is certainly there, but they need to play a full 60 minutes to get it done.

I expect the AFC South to be a 2 team race this year.
 
Indy Skinnz said:
I don't think the Colts are gonna slip much this year if at all.

For what it's worth, I agree with much of what everyone has said in this thread. The talent for Houston to beat the Colts is certainly there, but they need to play a full 60 minutes to get it done.

I expect the AFC South to be a 2 team race this year.
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Heck even if we sweep y'all I would still expect it to be tough to win the division. We don't have any influence on the other 14 games and as long as Manning is there I expect the Colts to crank out 11+ win seasons.
 
Hardcore Texan said:
What got you to following the Texans this past season? Was it a particular player?

Welcome to the board.
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Thanks, I finally changed jobs and had time to follow the texans. I started following a little bit since the inception, but not like you guys here, and not like i have been for the 09 season. A loss ruined the whole week for me.
Im not a kub basher, I had mixed feelings when they gave him an extension, but I think the mental hurdle is the coaching. Cushing and pollard brought it for the D, shaub and johnson got it for the O. It's just not coming together and I feel like alot of that is on the coaching. Like someone said, the talent is more then there.
 
The colts didn't beat us in either game last year....from what I remember.

What I remember is the Texans beating the Colts, then beating themselves and since the Colts were the only other team present they got the W's. Texans were the driving force in both games, unfortunately in both games their play was to hand the game over.
 
Big Lou said:
Finally???

We have beat the Colts before.

I know it's nothing to hang your hat on, but "finally" is not the word I would use......
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Hardcore Texan said:
Okay, then, when the Texans finally beat the colts for the second time in team history?
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If you watch the video, the question is who can knock the Colts off as the division winner this year. Indy has won the division 6 of the past 8 years. The other 2 belong to the Tacks. Are the Texans going to finally beat the Colts as the division winner is what the thread/video is about.
 
GP said:
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OK. maybe the Magic 8-Ball is pure speculation.

But I just have to see us beat the Colts before I believe it will be done. And even then, it would still be possibly just a fluke.

Until it happens more regularly, it has to be treated as a fluke unless it's an obvious changing-of-the-guard type of game where we dominate from start to finish.
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This

Prove it- Make the playoffs.

If the Texans atart out 3-1 they will probably be talking about the playoffs. Followed by a 3-4 game losing streak. It's time for them to stop talking and prove it on the field.

They haven't even proven they can beat the Tacks muchless the Colts. (Dose of reality)

Which will be difficult because the used car salesman that is McNair has been saying they are a playoff team the last 2 yrs. See where thats gotten them.
 
If I was a betting man, I'd put my money on Indy.

I hate to say it, but as a fan of this team, I no longer have expectations for this franchise, much less high expectations like beating the Colts.

I'll never stop cheering for them, though!
 
Super Mario said:
If you watch the video, the question is who can knock the Colts off as the division winner this year. Indy has won the division 6 of the past 8 years. The other 2 belong to the Tacks. Are the Texans going to finally beat the Colts as the division winner is what the thread/video is about.
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I am with you, it's kind of silly to get caught up i semantics when we know what the context of the issue is, which was my point, we can change the wording however we see fit, but the point was how will we finally beat the colts on a semi-regular basis, it's necessary to win the division, that's all I was implying.
 
Double Barrel said:
If I was a betting man, I'd put my money on Indy.

I hate to say it, but as a fan of this team, I no longer have expectations for this franchise, much less high expectations like beating the Colts.

I'll never stop cheering for them, though!
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Ditto
 
As fans we shouldn't expect a win but the Texans are certainly capable of beating the Colts. I like having them for game 1. Huge IF, but IF they pull off the win it will be exactly confidence boost to set the Texans up for a run.
 
infantrycak said:
As fans we shouldn't expect a win but the Texans are certainly capable of beating the Colts. I like having them for game 1. Huge IF, but IF they pull off the win it will be exactly confidence boost to set the Texans up for a run.
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Meh. Can be said for all teams every year. Winning the first game is one heckuva confidence booster by itself no matter the opponent. It's nice to begin the season undefeated.

I'm ready for this team to look past who the opponents are. I'm not going to worry about Peyton Manning. No big secret what he brings to the table. We know he's going to throw the ball. Ain't no gettin' around that. I'm going to worry about the linebackers and how the secondary respond. Our season depends on it whether it's the Colts or the Raiders. We have been known to allow backup QBs revive their careers against us so Peyton Manning means very little when a Joey Harrington-type has a career day (I know way back in 2006 but the wounds are still very tender).

Till we look past the opponent... Eh. I'm just not very optimistic about this team. I sure am hoping for the best but last year was brutal and I see the usual suspects in the lineup this season. Sure we added a couple of rookies but what did we lose? A lot. Dunta wasn't the problem last year. Instead of adding a RB, we're replacing a void left in Slaton. I'm banking on Garrett Graham though. Smithiak's 4th rounders seem to go ballistic on the field.

I'm hoping for the little sparkplug we got to give us plenty of entertainment on returns. I'm mentally preparing for a "Jerome Mathis" sort of year where he's the only bright spot on the team. 2005 would have been the ultimate fan punk without Jerome Mathis.

Now if we beat the Colts...

:fans:
 
GP said:
It's just sad. I think having David Carr lining up against Peyton Manning has instilled an overall lack of confidence by our whole team.
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b0ng said:
Most of the people who lined up with Carr are pretty much gone now.
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This.

The NFL Network guys picked up on a major problem with this team. Confidence. Especially, confidence when facing good teams. The record speaks for itself. Dungy mentioned the same thing last offseason, that the Texans were a confidence building event from becoming a top team.

One of the reasons I've become a Kubiak unbeliever (along with gameday decisions/indecision) is what seems to be his inability to instill confidence amongst the players. That's my perception. I think the talent is there (and I give Kubiak his credit for acquiring and developing that talent). I don't think a head coach has to be a fiery Cowher-type to instill confidence. Bill Walsh, Tom Landry, and Tony Dungy were as calm as any coach that ever walked a sideline. But, a head coach has to convince his players that they can win, and win any game. That element is more important than any player acquisition that could have been made in the offseason.
 
Lucky said:
This.

The NFL Network guys picked up on a major problem with this team. Confidence. Especially, confidence when facing good teams. The record speaks for itself. Dungy mentioned the same thing last offseason, that the Texans were a confidence building event from becoming a top team.

One of the reasons I've become a Kubiak unbeliever (along with gameday decisions/indecision) is what seems to be his inability to instill confidence amongst the players. That's my perception. I think the talent is there (and I give Kubiak his credit for acquiring and developing that talent). I don't think a head coach has to be a fiery Cowher-type to instill confidence. Bill Walsh, Tom Landry, and Tony Dungy were as calm as any coach that ever walked a sideline. But, a head coach has to convince his players that they can win, and win any game. That element is more important than any player acquisition that could have been made in the offseason.
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I agree with you a 100%. What's frustrating is that we have seen that we can beat the colts. I feel like we can beat/ run with any team. I just lack the confidence in the coaching to get us the division title. It's almost like it's backwards, it's like the coaching staff is looking to get the confidence from the players instead of the other way around.
 
Lucky said:
This.

The NFL Network guys picked up on a major problem with this team. Confidence. Especially, confidence when facing good teams. The record speaks for itself. Dungy mentioned the same thing last offseason, that the Texans were a confidence building event from becoming a top team.

One of the reasons I've become a Kubiak unbeliever (along with gameday decisions/indecision) is what seems to be his inability to instill confidence amongst the players. That's my perception. I think the talent is there (and I give Kubiak his credit for acquiring and developing that talent). I don't think a head coach has to be a fiery Cowher-type to instill confidence. Bill Walsh, Tom Landry, and Tony Dungy were as calm as any coach that ever walked a sideline. But, a head coach has to convince his players that they can win, and win any game. That element is more important than any player acquisition that could have been made in the offseason.
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Grforces said:
I agree with you a 100%. What's frustrating is that we have seen that we can beat the colts. I feel like we can beat/ run with any team. I just lack the confidence in the coaching to get us the division title. It's almost like it's backwards, it's like the coaching staff is looking to get the confidence from the players instead of the other way around.
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You can't put it all on the coaches. All it takes is one Rosencopter to wipe away 100 rah-rah's
 
TimeKiller said:
The colts didn't beat us in either game last year....from what I remember.

What I remember is the Texans beating the Colts, then beating themselves and since the Colts were the only other team present they got the W's. Texans were the driving force in both games, unfortunately in both games their play was to hand the game over.
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What he said...:handshake:
 
JB said:
You can't put it all on the coaches. All it takes is one Rosencopter to wipe away 100 rah-rah's
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While that's true, good teams overcome bad calls by refs, Rosencopters, Hurricanes and all other sorts of life. Good teams will keep their confidence and swagger even if they got their heads caved in the week before. I think a lot of that type of attitude falls on the coaches.
 
b0ng said:
While that's true, good teams overcome bad calls by refs, Rosencopters, Hurricanes and all other sorts of life. Good teams will keep their confidence and swagger even if they got their heads caved in the week before. I think a lot of that type of attitude falls on the coaches.
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I agree with this. I think the Texans need to mature as a team. That includes the coaching staff. I also believe that overcoming that devastating 4 game losing streak and finish 9-7 with a shot at the playoffs has give our team a good deal of confidence. Reading their twitter comments alone shows me they seem to be much more focused and confident. They sound like a team ready to get it done.
 
b0ng said:
While that's true, good teams overcome bad calls by refs, Rosencopters, Hurricanes and all other sorts of life. Good teams will keep their confidence and swagger even if they got their heads caved in the week before. I think a lot of that type of attitude falls on the coaches.
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We've got loads of confidence and swagger. We show it by going on a season ending sprint every time. It's starting out of the boat that we struggle with. Yes, that's on the coaches. We got no killer instinct until our backs are on the wall. We can be pushed back but we start fighting back too late.
 
b0ng said:
While that's true, good teams overcome bad calls by refs, Rosencopters, Hurricanes and all other sorts of life. Good teams will keep their confidence and swagger even if they got their heads caved in the week before. I think a lot of that type of attitude falls on the coaches.
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I agree with this. It would have been nice if we were that team in 2009, but we weren't.

I think it is unfair to blame all that on Kubiak. You can instill all you want, but if it takes a little longer for naturally quite guys, like AJ & Mario to internalize, then project that confidence... then it takes a little longer, & I don't know that you can blame the coach.

Defensively, Mario hasn't even become that guy (yet), Demeco, Cushing, and Pollard have filled the void left by Dunta.

Lucky said:
This.
One of the reasons I've become a Kubiak unbeliever (along with gameday decisions/indecision) is what seems to be his inability to instill confidence amongst the players. That's my perception. I think the talent is there (and I give Kubiak his credit for acquiring and developing that talent). I don't think a head coach has to be a fiery Cowher-type to instill confidence. Bill Walsh, Tom Landry, and Tony Dungy were as calm as any coach that ever walked a sideline. But, a head coach has to convince his players that they can win, and win any game. That element is more important than any player acquisition that could have been made in the offseason.
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I think the way we "shut down" the Colts (as much as they can be shut down) in the second half of the first game, and jumped on them early in the second game shows the team is confident enough to believe they can win. I don't see that as the problem... IMHO that is evidence Kubiak is doing what a head coach is supposed to do.

Where he has failed, again, just my opinion, is getting them to overcome the bullshit that comes up in every game.
 
One more thing.


Kubiak pisses me off, just like he pisses everyone else off, because of some of the things he does, and some of the things he doesn't do. & I agree, after 4 years, we shouldn't be biting our nails on the edge of our seats week 17 hoping to go 9-7 for the first time.

What I don't understand, is the feeling some people have, that he'll never get it. I beleive he's dragging ass to get us where we wanted to be... If we had started the season in December, we would have seen the team we thought we should have had in September. So I don't think we are "that" far behind schedule.
 
Yeah, I think some of it is Kubiak, some of it is the coordinators and the position coaches, and some of it is on the players. But since Kubiak is the guy in charge he gets a lot of the blame (even if some of it is unfair). Really we started out great in 2007. We beat the Chiefs (Which were a playoff team the year before), we beat the Panthers (Which were supposed to be a pretty decent team) and then in that Panthers game AJ went down and the rest of the season went to poo.

I've read a lot of things that run in the vein of the players play only when they think they have to save Kubiak's job in the ending month of a season because he runs camp candy. If Kubiak is smart he'll harness that motivation (because it is there, they've proven it) for the beginning. I'm not sure that Kubiak will never "get it", but I do recognize a lot of the same mistakes every year. Coaches challenges, the running game always has huge flaws, the defense always craps the bed at the wrong time against the wrong teams. A lot of the more impatient fans think these are good reasons to fire Kubiak, but I can't see the logic in completely firing a guy who has improved every season he's been here. If he shows some kind of major regression, then sure can his ass, but if he's improving (even if it's only ever so slightly, let the man try to complete his team.

In the end though, Kubiak is in charge of making the players play and doing whatever he has to do to make the Texans put away good teams.
 
thunderkyss said:
I think the way we "shut down" the Colts (as much as they can be shut down) in the second half of the first game, and jumped on them early in the second game shows the team is confident enough to believe they can win. I don't see that as the problem...
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I don't think we're watching the same games. The 2nd Colts game is actually a prime example of a team losing confidence in itself. This team has had too much talent to produce a 5-10 record versus winning teams, the past 2 seasons. I have to side with Dungy and Rod Woodson in that the Texans have lacked confidence when facing top opponents. Such as the Colts.
thunderkyss said:
IMHO that is evidence Kubiak is doing what a head coach is supposed to do.

Where he has failed, again, just my opinion, is getting them to overcome the bullshit that comes up in every game.
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Kubiak is doing what a head coach is supposed to do? He just can't get them to overcome the bullshit that comes up in every game?

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Lucky said:
I don't think we're watching the same games. The 2nd Colts game is actually a prime example of a team losing confidence in itself. This team has had too much talent to produce a 5-10 record versus winning teams, the past 2 seasons. I have to side with Dungy and Rod Woodson in that the Texans have lacked confidence when facing top opponents. Such as the Colts.
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We came into that game, and jumped on them to a 21-7 halftime lead. I think they came to the game feeling pretty confident they could win. At the very least that they could play with them. They lacked the maturity to put the game away. Same thing happened against Jacksonville the second time.
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Kubiak is doing what a head coach is supposed to do? He just can't get them to overcome the bullshit that comes up in every game?

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He's put together a solid team. He gets them prepared to play. The team needs to mature some. They need to be able to forget the last play, and make the next one. Kubiak has a responsibility to help them get to that point, and I think he's working on it. He's doing what he is supposed to be doing.
 
Lucky said:
Kubiak is doing what a head coach is supposed to do? He just can't get them to overcome the bullshit that comes up in every game?
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I think what he means by doing what a head coach is supposed to do is that he is slowly but surely improving the talent and the play of the team (Yes, it is very slow for him and very painful for us as we watch Sean Payton win a SB or Mike Smith and Tony Sporano make one whole playoff run).

But you are right, there are a lot of games in which a call doesn't go our way and it completely deflates all facets of our game. But at the same time you can't say that team didn't play it's best football in team history last year because it did. What that might be worth though is up to the individual poster.
 
Would we instantly improve with a different coach? You look at the colts with thier new coach and they went to the super bowl. But, the coach wasen't new, not really anyways. He was under dungy, and basically din't change anything. With the Texans, under a new coach alot would change. Kub is improving, maybe not fast enough but he is. Im just wondering if he is reaching a plateau and we cant take that next step to actually break even in the division let alone winning it.
 
b0ng said:
But at the same time you can't say that team didn't play it's best football in team history last year because it did.
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I would say that there wasn't a vast difference between the Texans play in 2009 than what they produced in 2008 (against a more difficult schedule). The Texans added a couple of much needed playmakers on defense. Some of the younger players improved. Some regressed. But, that's not really the conversation.

What we are discussing is what will it take to finally beat the Colts. Be it in head-to-head matchups, or for the division crown that Indy routinely wears. Taking that next step is less about adding another piece to the puzzle, but more about changing the culture of the team. Tony Dungy said this about the Texans last offseason:

The AFC South division is tougher than ever. I really think the Houston Texans are a little confidence piece away from becoming an elite team."
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Well, it's one year later. And what Dungy said then still rings true. Man for man, the Texans have as much (or more) talent than any team in the AFC South. It's the intangibles. The confidence that's lacking when facing good teams. So has Kubiak done "what a head coach is supposed to do"? Partially. He has succeeded in regards to shopping for the groceries. Whether Kubiak has the recipe down for concocting an elite team remains to be seen. That's also something "a head coach is supposed to do." :chef:
 
Lucky said:
So has Kubiak done "what a head coach is supposed to do"? Partially. He has succeeded in regards to shopping for the groceries. Whether Kubiak has the recipe down for concocting an elite team remains to be seen. That's also something "a head coach is supposed to do." :chef:
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How long does it take to instill confidence into 53 men?

The correct answer, would be that it depends on the men, and it depends on the coach.

Are you telling me Matt Schaub isn't more confident now than he was a year ago? That our front seven aren't more confident with Pollard behind them?

I think our whole team is confident they can play with, and beat any team out there. People want to say, with the exception of the Jets game, but if you watch that game, we were playing some damn good football. There were some damn big mistakes made, on the field, on the sideline, in the locker room.... I'm not denying any of that.

We played at a high level all year, and went toe to toe with every team that was on our schedule.

Not being able to recover from fumbling the ball on the 1 yard line isn't the same thing as lacking confidence. In my opinion, that's a maturity and resolve thing.

Again, something that Kubiak should be doing.

& Yes, I think Kubiak is doing what a good HC is supposed to be doing. Maybe not as transparently as you would like to see. Maybe not as quickly as you would like to see... & quite frankly not as well as you would like to see. But yeah, he's doing it.
 
Reasons Lucky listed are good reasons why I think Kubiak should be under some pretty intense scrutiny this year by Bob, extension or not.

But I think Kubiak has done well enough not to be fired outright for reasons why TK alluded to.

Basically for me it comes down to how well the defense performs. I think unless we see a rash of injuries the passing game is going to remain high end. The running game, ehhhh, but the aerial attack should still be in place. But if the defense can't hold decent teams to under 25 points we are always going to be in a shoot-out and that's not a good recipe to win.

Frank Bush is probably going to sink Kubiak in the long run.
 
Last year in Indy your FG kicker shanks it at the end of the game. In Houston you beat our ass up and down the field the first half. Manning is good at adjusting his strategy during games and that combined with the Texans confidence level against us determined the game. As a Colts fan I've been amazed by our luck against the Texans. I know its going to run out eventually. I thought it would have by now already.

The pre-Manning days sucked as a Colts fan. I remember them very well unfortunately. So I've been enjoying this ride immensely since 1998. But I see a hell of a lot of similarities between the Colts and Texans as far as fan bases go. We, like you guys, doubted our coach. He was a really nice guy but didn't seem to be able to deliver the championship. There were some idiots wanting us to trade Manning so we could get the final pieces of the puzzle for the championship. Stupidity personified there. We, like you, had a nemesis we couldn't get past. The f'ing Patriots. So many times on the cusp of victory something went wrong against them. The media played it up big time. After the Super Bowl win and beating them on a regular basis we no longer fear them at all. I have a soft spot for the Texans because that is where the Colts were about a decade ago. So keep the faith one day the rewards will come.
 
b0ng said:
Reasons Lucky listed are good reasons why I think Kubiak should be under some pretty intense scrutiny this year by Bob, extension or not.

But I think Kubiak has done well enough not to be fired outright for reasons why TK alluded to.
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If we don't win 10 games, I don't think any excuse is going to save Kubiak. Tough I'm a devout Kubiak fan, I think that's about right.

I think last year was the first year, that we were good enough to look at W-Ls as a reflection of the team. Yes, I'm saying from 2006-2008 there was no rhyme or reason to why we won a game, other than we sucked less often than the other team.

2009, we were winning, because we were better than the other team. We lost to the better teams in the league... I think that is a real reflection of where this team was. Better than the bad teams... really close to the good teams.

We've got 4 games against truly bad teams. Oakland, Kansas City, & two against the Jags ( I know they swept us last season... but still). We need to win those, and 6 of the other 12... against mid-level to good teams.

I think the team is good enough. The dept is pretty close to on par with the rest of the league, if not on par. The majority of guys have been on our roster for 3 years or more. We're cranking out pro-bowlers like nobody's business...

2010, I think it's all on the coach.
 
thunderkyss said:
I think our whole team is confident they can play with, and beat any team out there. People want to say, with the exception of the Jets game, but if you watch that game, we were playing some damn good football.
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Look, I think you make some good points. But when you say stuff like the Texans played "damn good football" versus the Jets, I just throw my hands up in the air. That game was a pathetic display by the Texans. They were manhandled on both sides of the ball. The Jets staff and scheme dominated the Texans staff (outcoached just isn't a strong enough word). And in my eyes, from what I saw on the field and the sidelines, the team quit. I can't be convinced otherwise.

Fortunately, that game was an aberration to the season. Kubiak deserves credit for bringing the team back from that loss, just as he shoulders blame for allowing his team to come out flat for the home opener against a rookie head coach and QB. But, Andre Johnson deserves kudos for sparking the team in the subsequent game. And Pollard and Cushing instilled a level of physicality that this franchise had not seen. I finally got off the ledge the Jets game put me on. However, I won't forget it for what it was.

b0ng said:
Frank Bush is probably going to sink Kubiak in the long run.
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I wasn't a fan of the Bush promotion. But, I liked what I saw as the season wore on. I believe Frank Bush can be part of the solution, rather than the problem.

GNR87 said:
So keep the faith one day the rewards will come.
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I'm trying. I see signs, but not all of them are positive. Thanks for the comparision to what the Colts have gone through. It helps.
 
The addition of Cushing and Pollard was HUGE for this defense. not just talent wise but the attitude to go with," I will be there and I will knock the piss out of you"

and it might have been Smith simplifying the playbook along with the guys learning the assignments and playing instead of thinking
 
NitroHonda said:
Meh. Can be said for all teams every year. Winning the first game is one heckuva confidence booster by itself no matter the opponent. It's nice to begin the season undefeated.
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Disagree. We all know the Texans' record against the Colts. The Colts also went to the Super Bowl last season. Beating them would boost our confidence up tremendously. Much different than opening up against the Jets (last year) or Miami (few years before that)...
 
Bottom line is unless Kubes makes the playoffs next year these same ? will keep being asked.

There will always be excuses Cushing being suspended will be exhibit no.1 next offseason,injuries,bad calls etc....

Until they make the playoffs I'm really not interested in hearing the excuses any longer.
 
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