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The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK & REPLACEMENT thread
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GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
Fire this fool Kubiak.
FirstTexansFan
The Unknown Fan
I'm just bewildered! Everyone including my dog could see the run working, and we try to get cutsie and pass? This was a victory for us easily if we just stayed with the run... I don't think I could be anymore disappointed 
Showtime100
Got JJ?
bckey
All Pro
Kubiak has shown that when given 2 weeks to prepare he gets really stupid ideas rolling around in his head. Too much time to think. The Texans party is over. The defense is handicapping this team along with coaching. It was coaching that put this young secondary out there and said that is what we are going with. Schaub sucked at times tonight but they should have been running the ball anyway.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
The bad thing about it is, the defense did its part in the first half. The offense couldn't come through, mainly due to Gary Kubiak forgetting the Colts can't stop the run.
RTP2110
All Pro
A game like this is inexcusable for Kubiak being in his 5th year as HC. Why we had such a pass heavy gameplan to begin with is beyond me. Everyone knows running the ball is the key to beating Indy. What's worse than the gameplan coming into the game, is Kubiak's inability to make adjustments. Not only was the run game working, the passing game was pathetic. So why in the hell did Kubiak keep on passing. It was almost like Kubiak scripted all 70 plays before the game and refused to change it.
I'm trying to follow Kubiak's logic, and I just can't see it. The gameplan and playcalling tonight was just flat out stupid. He played right into the Colts' hands. He did everything the Colts wanted him to do to tilt the game in their favor. Just pathetic all the way around. This guy isn't a winning head coach. He just knows how to run a gimmick offense that will keep the team in most games.
I'm trying to follow Kubiak's logic, and I just can't see it. The gameplan and playcalling tonight was just flat out stupid. He played right into the Colts' hands. He did everything the Colts wanted him to do to tilt the game in their favor. Just pathetic all the way around. This guy isn't a winning head coach. He just knows how to run a gimmick offense that will keep the team in most games.
drewmar74
disgruntled
Thank you. I know the D is going to catch all kinds of crap but they hung in there tough in the 1st half. O couldn't get 'em off the field and kapow: Same old crap.
drewmar74
disgruntled
Negative, ghostrider. The pattern is completely empty.
stingray
Hall of Fame
Fu*$k Gary Kubiak after this game. I have seen the light. The run game was working like a champ and he just needed to show that he is a brilliant pass caller. Dumbass, dumbass dumbass.
Fire him. I am turning in my season tickets after this year. I am not driving 750 miles roundtrip to see a dumbass head coach. Screw you gary, screw You!!!!
Fire him. I am turning in my season tickets after this year. I am not driving 750 miles roundtrip to see a dumbass head coach. Screw you gary, screw You!!!!
DexmanC
Hall of Fame
Same **** happened in the first game as well, but the score was close enough
for it not to matter in the end. Arian Foster is a GIFTED RUNNER. He's
has Terrell Davis-like vision, and WE DON'T USE HIM. Kubiak seems
hell-bent on trying to PASS HIS WAY to victory, even when running
the ball on the Colts EARLY IN THE GAME, is obvious.
How can this guy never get a team ready to play in the first half? I bet it has something to do with those 15 or so scripted calls he has at the beginning of each game. It does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
I will hold off on the pink soap until next week barring the results of that game, but i just don't understand it.
I will hold off on the pink soap until next week barring the results of that game, but i just don't understand it.
wagonhed
Team Gruden
It's not like the only problem is that we didn't run enough. Our passing game has been defective all year. Look at all the teams out there passing effectively, and then look at us. Our gameplans are **** and the coaches managed to break one of the most powerful passing offenses in the game, despite returning every single player, while adding a good running game.
Pathetic.
Pathetic.
False Start
On # 69
Yeah, I have stuck up for the guy a bunch. It's starting to look like he is a great OC, but not cut out to be a head coach. Kind of like Wade in Dallas, great DC, but just not head coach material. Wade did make it to the playoffs at least, lol.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
And he had 65 yards on those 8 carries! Pisses me off even more.
Scooter
Funky
this game was 99% on kubiak and the coaching staff.
how do you beat the colts?
you keep manning off the field
how do you keep manning off the field?
you run the ball
what is the colts' weakness on defense?
they're too small to stop the run
what is the colts' strength on defense?
pass rush
how do you neutralize that strength?
you run the ball
how did we beat the colts in week 1?
arian foster ran for 231 yards
how did we beat the colts before arian foster?
ron dayne ran all day
arian foster put up 65 yards in the first half ... ON 8 CARRIES!, while schaub threw 17 times. we lost before this game even started because kubiak out-thought his team ... AGAIN. the entire 2 weeks according to anyone who's watched football should have been finding the best ways to RUN THE BALL! - instead our first drive was pass, pass, pass, sack, punt. i've been maybe his most ardent defender, but i see the flaws in what kubiak does in game design and sunday adjustments. blame it on ignorance, stubbornness, or his tendancies with getting too cute for his team, but kubiak lost this game on offense (especially with poorly designed short passes, like the failed 4th down), and the way our players are taught on defense lost it on that side.
that being said, i'm far from the pink soap because as i've said i think we're just getting started on a great thing, and i think kubiak is the guy we need to turn that into championships. games like today make it harder for me to criticize those who insist it's time for a change however.
how do you beat the colts?
you keep manning off the field
how do you keep manning off the field?
you run the ball
what is the colts' weakness on defense?
they're too small to stop the run
what is the colts' strength on defense?
pass rush
how do you neutralize that strength?
you run the ball
how did we beat the colts in week 1?
arian foster ran for 231 yards
how did we beat the colts before arian foster?
ron dayne ran all day
arian foster put up 65 yards in the first half ... ON 8 CARRIES!, while schaub threw 17 times. we lost before this game even started because kubiak out-thought his team ... AGAIN. the entire 2 weeks according to anyone who's watched football should have been finding the best ways to RUN THE BALL! - instead our first drive was pass, pass, pass, sack, punt. i've been maybe his most ardent defender, but i see the flaws in what kubiak does in game design and sunday adjustments. blame it on ignorance, stubbornness, or his tendancies with getting too cute for his team, but kubiak lost this game on offense (especially with poorly designed short passes, like the failed 4th down), and the way our players are taught on defense lost it on that side.
that being said, i'm far from the pink soap because as i've said i think we're just getting started on a great thing, and i think kubiak is the guy we need to turn that into championships. games like today make it harder for me to criticize those who insist it's time for a change however.
TexanBacker93
Veteran
I'm just bewildered! Everyone including my dog could see the run working, and we try to get cutsie and pass? This was a victory for us easily if we just stayed with the run... I don't think I could be anymore disappointed
Kubiak was trying to outsmart the Colts. Nice job there, Gary.
As for Kubiak being one to lead a team to championships. His only experience is riding the coattails of John Elway or Steve Young. He hasn't shown he knows how to get a team to play to it's potential.
bckey
All Pro
If Clark would have been able to play it would have been way worse.
The Chargers will light up the Texans secondary next week. Gates will feast on our guys.
I'd like to know what our turnover ratio is so far this season.
DX-TEX
#TomSavageDontCare
Awesome post! Repped.
eriadoc
Texan-American
Sometimes being a head coach is easier than he makes it out to be. I mean, you have to be a genius to come up with all the game plans and schemes that Kubiak has. You have to be a genius to build a team from nothing and make it competitive. But you don't have to be a genius to figure out a couple basic things.
Kubiak, you're doing it wrong.
I'm donning the pink soap. I wore it last year, he should have been fired last year, and I'm putting it back up. I am not advocating firing him in mid-season, but I'm wearing it as a clear statement that I have no faith the man can be a successful head coach of this team.
bckey
All Pro
5 years with Kubiak is more than just getting started. Our fans have too low of expectations every year and we are really good excuse makers. You can't take as long as you could in the 70's and 80's to build a team. Teams were mainly built from the draft back then. Players move around so much more in todays NFL. Players bolt for greener pastures unless you can really overpay for them to stay on a losing or mediocre team. Nothing about the Texans attracts players here. They are consistantly mediocre.
stingray
Hall of Fame
bckey
All Pro
I donned it last year myself and thought he should have been fired after last season also. I even donned a couple of weeks this year already but damn it sure is a butt ugly avatar.
PockyAF
Waterboy
You might think this is a knee-jerk response, but lo behold, if you check out the remaining of our schedule you know this response is perfectly appropriate.
First off, we can barely win at home; and as we witnessed today, we falter against a depleted team on the road. I have a shitty feeling we're about to embark on a 4 game losing streak, reminisce of the "oh no" Nov of 2009. I'm even on the fence about the TEN game at the end of Nov; seeing how VY is still undefeated against us.
I know what you guys are thinking, that "Kubiak's Kids" will finally start to show up when it we're already out of the playoff pictures and rescue Kubiak from the brink of termination, giving Old Man Bob blind faith again.
Well think again, it doesn't get better after the November Execution. We'll be playing @PHI, BAL, @TEN to start of Dec.
We're basically looking at a, at best(IMO), 7-9 season. I fear that Kubiak will once again find some lame excuses to evoke sympathy out of the always gullible, Old Man Bob. Last year, The Brown sisters held the team back, the year before Hurricane Ike pillaged our season, this year we have the #1 SOS.
Welcome to The Suck til 2012. McNair isn't going to fire Kubiak unless he suffers a dismal 2-14-like season like Dum Capers. That's his guy, excuses will always pave the way for a another Kubiak-coach season.
And if those ridiculous Mayans are right, we won't even we freakin' be around after Kubiak contract is up.
First off, we can barely win at home; and as we witnessed today, we falter against a depleted team on the road. I have a shitty feeling we're about to embark on a 4 game losing streak, reminisce of the "oh no" Nov of 2009. I'm even on the fence about the TEN game at the end of Nov; seeing how VY is still undefeated against us.
I know what you guys are thinking, that "Kubiak's Kids" will finally start to show up when it we're already out of the playoff pictures and rescue Kubiak from the brink of termination, giving Old Man Bob blind faith again.
Well think again, it doesn't get better after the November Execution. We'll be playing @PHI, BAL, @TEN to start of Dec.
We're basically looking at a, at best(IMO), 7-9 season. I fear that Kubiak will once again find some lame excuses to evoke sympathy out of the always gullible, Old Man Bob. Last year, The Brown sisters held the team back, the year before Hurricane Ike pillaged our season, this year we have the #1 SOS.
Welcome to The Suck til 2012. McNair isn't going to fire Kubiak unless he suffers a dismal 2-14-like season like Dum Capers. That's his guy, excuses will always pave the way for a another Kubiak-coach season.
And if those ridiculous Mayans are right, we won't even we freakin' be around after Kubiak contract is up.
TexCanada
All Pro
I'm with you. I have really tried hard to be a Kubiak supporter, but games like this drive me crazy. He isn't giving our players the best chance to succeed. Tonight he put Matt Schaub in an extremely difficult position, and Matt wasn't able to handle it. Sure, Schaub is somewhat to blame, but its Kubiak's fault for not helping him out. We should have ran the ball significantly more throughout this game. I, for one, was screaming at the TV all night to run the damn ball.
I am extremely disappointed with Kubiak tonight.
Scooter
Funky
the steelers and ravens and patriots and colts prove year after year that you do take your time. each team is built almost entirely with their own draft picks and rarely go after major free agents - even after having solid and mature rosters.
i'll rail for days on kubiak's stubbornness and inflexibility when it comes to game management and at times player loyalty. but the best FRANCHISES (not teams, franchises), are those that do exactly what we're doing by sticking with kubiak ... they've just had a couple decades' head start. the constant losers are those with consistant turnover at key positions, free agents, and coaches - even if they sneak in a great season or two.
andre hasnt bolted, nor daniels, nor ryans. we do very well to keep our own under kubiak.
It's a great point. I think Kubiak has had some serious growing pains. Kubiak is outsmarting himself with a lot of his playcalling. Just stick with what works.
We've built a franchise. To bring someone in would likely cause a lot of turnover to get the players to fit the mold. Kubiak has to stop making rookie headcoaching mistakes. He knows what works, just keep doing it.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
Foster should not have only had 15 carries in this game. He should have at least at 25. Kubiak, how exactly did you beat the Colts in Week 1? Do you need five months to figure it out because it appears two weeks was not enough.
Scooter
Funky
that's exactly it. kubiak is so insistant on going against what works that he hurts us more often than helps. someone take him to vegas and let him lose all his money betting against trends. his thought process appears to be (and obviously not knee-jerk, this has gone on his tenure) - "sure muhammed ali is 25-0, but i'll bet against him because he's eventually going to lose and i'll be right".
there is no more simple game in football than against the colts. you run the ball. end discussion. if you can average even 4 yards, you run 70% of the game or better. dont get me wrong, kubiak coaches and teaches his offense possibly better than anyone else in football, and our success is directly because of how great he is in those areas. complete brainfarts like today dont take away how successful we are on offense with so little spent in terms of picks and free agents and money.
the opposite is true on defense. we've dumbed down the defense so much that it's full circle into confusion by having players required to leave their assignments to protect eachother. steve young - "their defense is so vanilla, i would love to play against the texans every week". i am in favor of pink soap, but it's in regards to defensive coaches. we have ZERO scheme and arent being taught well at all - as exemplified by the progressive decline of every new player. even our rookies regress each season.
Dishman
Miss Ya Blue
Why is Kubiak making rookie mistakes in his 5th year as head coach? He'd be long gone as a player as a 5th year veteran making rookie mistakes that even some of most casual fans could avoid. It used to be frustrating, but now it's just sad.
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
The benefit of a dominate running game is that there is nothing the opposing defense can do to stop it. That is why it is called IMPOSING the run.
But what do I know, I'm not a coach.
But what do I know, I'm not a coach.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
Hell, he'd be long gone on pretty much any NFL team with the results we've had in the past five years.
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
I've always been a supporter of Kubiak, and will still give him a chance the rest of the year, but he was the sole reason the Texans lost today. Everyone could tell the Colts couldn't stop Foster. So what does he do? He has Matt pass 38 times tonight. Foster averaged 6.8 yards a carry.
Kubiak lost a lot of respect from me with his play-calling tonight.
DexmanC
Hall of Fame
And as always, it's the coach's fault, and the players get a free pass.
Yeah, you guys stick to the script alright.
The players must follow the gameplan put down by the coach, and it
definitely was a silly gameplan tonight.
The Cush
Rookie
I've been saying this the past couple of seasons, its not smart to have an inexperienced head coach coaching a group of young, inexperienced guys. You need someone with experience, someone that has been THERE as a head coach, someone that actually HAS A BRAIN.
We hammered the Colts on the ground game 1, their defense is not built to stop power running not to mention they are banged up everywhere, and their two ends are superior PASS rushers...that sounds like a recipe for some good ol ground and pound. NOPE, not if Kubiak has anything to say about it. It was as if he wanted to show the world we beat them the first time running the ball now we're going to show everyone we can beat them through the air. He left his tackles, especially Duane, on an island against Freeney and Mathis. Because of this, he left Matt on an even smaller island getting crushed. I was barely seeing any chips or double teams until it the 2nd half when it was too late. The way the 1st half went reminded me of the Cowboys game. Against a premiere pass rusher like Ware we came out throwing heavy to begin with and barely ran the ball.
Unfortunately, unless we finish anything under 9-7, I think Kubiak will be back. We'll still be on that cusp and McNair will probably let Kubes try to finish what he started...
We hammered the Colts on the ground game 1, their defense is not built to stop power running not to mention they are banged up everywhere, and their two ends are superior PASS rushers...that sounds like a recipe for some good ol ground and pound. NOPE, not if Kubiak has anything to say about it. It was as if he wanted to show the world we beat them the first time running the ball now we're going to show everyone we can beat them through the air. He left his tackles, especially Duane, on an island against Freeney and Mathis. Because of this, he left Matt on an even smaller island getting crushed. I was barely seeing any chips or double teams until it the 2nd half when it was too late. The way the 1st half went reminded me of the Cowboys game. Against a premiere pass rusher like Ware we came out throwing heavy to begin with and barely ran the ball.
Unfortunately, unless we finish anything under 9-7, I think Kubiak will be back. We'll still be on that cusp and McNair will probably let Kubes try to finish what he started...
Showtime100
Got JJ?
And as always, it's the coach's fault, and the players get a free pass.
Yeah, you guys stick to the script alright.
I don't think anyone gets a free pass. I do believe, however, a good NFL coaching staff could get more out of this team not only in play calling and in-game decisions but could also get more out of the talent each of these players have. Unprovable for sure, just an opinion.
Dishman
Miss Ya Blue
And as always, it's the coach's fault, and the players get a free pass.
Yeah, you guys stick to the script alright.
Terrible offensive play calling is on the coaching staff.
Abandoning the run before the game even really got started is on the coaching staff.
Piss-poor execution and adjustments out of a bye-week is a reflection on the coaching staffs inability to prepare the team.
Scooter
Funky
And as always, it's the coach's fault, and the players get a free pass.
Yeah, you guys stick to the script alright.
i've spent this entire thread defending kubiak, and still do. how was this game NOT the coaches' faults?
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
And as always, it's the coach's fault, and the players get a free pass.
Yeah, you guys stick to the script alright.
I've defended Kubiak for four of his five seasons here. After this season, it's time for a change.
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
And as always, it's the coach's fault, and the players get a free pass.
Yeah, you guys stick to the script alright.
I'm usually a Kubiak defender, and I'm still willing to give him the rest of the year before I fully make up my mind on him for next year, but I was disappointed he abandoned the run. Foster ran 33 times for 231 yards the last time Houston played the Colts, and he ran 15 times for 102 averaging 6.8 yards a carry. I admit Schaub had an awful game tonight, and though the defense wasn't totally awful I didn't expect them to get off the field either, but why stop running the ball when it has worked so well against the Colts?
houstonspartan
All Pro
So, we're supposed to wait 20 years for Kubiak to grow into a head coach?
Come on. 5 years is enough time.
Scooter
Funky
i couldnt agree more with this statement, however i think our problem is the opposite. our lack of experience and leadership is on the field, not the sidelines (despite kubiak almost single handedly losing this game). we have no ray lewis or darren sharper or charles woodsen or casey hampton or peyton manning. veteran leadership and motivation on the field to combine with younger head coaches.
name a new or first time head coach without a leader over 30 years old (i can name atleast 3 players for each coach). there's only 1 coach without, and he's in houston.
this is the conflict IMO. either we start acquiring those players, or we ride the process until they occur naturally.
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