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The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK & REPLACEMENT thread

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wagonhed said:
Does anyone know why I can't change my avatar to something custom? I only have the preset options and nowhere to select my own. Help! I'm trying to join the pink soapers.

Oh also I can't change my signature apparently.
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Pre-edit your photo to match the required specs. If they aren't EXACT,
you can't use it. For your avatar:

Note: The maximum size of your custom image is 150 by 80 pixels or 24.4 KB (whichever is smaller).
 
DexmanC said:
Pre-edit your photo to match the required specs. If they aren't EXACT,
you can't use it. For your avatar:

Note: The maximum size of your custom image is 150 by 80 pixels or 24.4 KB (whichever is smaller).
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No, I mean, there isn't even an option anywhere that lets me try to choose one. And I used to have a custom one when I joined and now the option is gone, or I can't find it. lol.
 
thunderkyss said:
You've got to hate Kubiak to think that was his plan. That he wanted to come out unbalanced, that he would ignore something that was working. That he would continue to put Schaub in bad situations.

I don't hate Kubiak, I don't think he's stupid. Something else must have been going on.
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You're in the 1st stage of grief. Denial. You have a long way to go. When you become a Stage Fiver, like myself, you'll be able accept Kubiak's brainfarts much easier.
 
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Lucky said:
You're in the 1st stage of grief. Denial. You have a long way to go. When you become a Stage Fiver, like myself, you'll be able accept Kubiak's brainfarts much easier.
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Couldn't. Agree. More.

This feels like the David Carr saga all over again. I honestly wanted to believe in Carr. I blamed it on the o-line. I blamed it on the receivers. I blamed it on the coach. But at some point, you'll have to question whether your blind adherence is legitimate or not.
 
CretorFrigg said:
Couldn't. Agree. More.

This feels like the David Carr saga all over again. I honestly wanted to believe in Carr. I blamed it on the o-line. I blamed it on the receivers. I blamed it on the coach. But at some point, you'll have to question whether your blind adherence is legitimate or not.
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This is nothing at all like David Carr. It was easy to see his short-comings. He never looked downfield, he ran into sacks, he had no idea what the defense was doing so he had to stare down his recievers to wait for them to get open. He had no working knowledge of ball placement.

Kubiak on the other hand. You can say that the play calling was atrocious. But we don't know what the play calls were. We don't know which ones Matt checked out of run plays into pass plays. Every body knows he has this capability. But every body thinks he'll be as successful as Peyton when he does this.

3rd & 2, 4th & 2... yeah, we could have run the ball. Doesn't make passing the ball a bad idea when you have Matt Schaub, Andre Johnson, & the ball hitting the receiver in stride.

We're complaining about not running the ball... no one wants to talk about being 6 for 18 for 37 yards? David Garrard didn't have that problem. Vince Young won't have that problem.

He's not fire & Brimstone... he doesn't have a huge chin.... But he's doing a good job & we still have an opportunity to win 10+ games & get to the play-offs this year.
 
thunderkyss said:
You've got to hate Kubiak to think that was his plan. That he wanted to come out unbalanced, that he would ignore something that was working. That he would continue to put Schaub in bad situations.
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Gary Kubes said:
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"As long as TK believes in me, I'm YOUR COACH!"
"Results be-damned, my kids'll keep battlin.'"
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TK's Reaction said:
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5th Grader's Reaction To This Discussion said:
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Well. At least we have a Dialogue.
 
DexmanC said:
Well. At least we have a Dialogue.
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Results be damned? Who said that?

I'm just not ready to give up on this team, or this season. If we get to 5-7 then your rhetoric would actually make sense, you act as if we already are. We're 4-3, & haven't played our best football yet.

I get that the schedule gets tougher from here on out, but the games still have to be played.
 
HTown2ATX said:
@ GP

You should bring back that sig (or avatar, forget which one) that was like team logos in space and the lombardi trophy and way off in the distance was the Texans logo and the dad was telling his son "and way over there is our team"

Lol

You remember what I'm talking about? Think it's time to bust that out.
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Roger that.
 
guess I am down because this defense haven't given up less than 24 points in any given game... plus it isn't like last year where our loses were close except for the Jets game, this season , we are getting punched in the mouth early and ***** slapped the rest of the way..

Unless there is some miracle with the defense, Bush has to got to go.
 
Wolf said:
guess I am down because this defense haven't given up less than 24 points in any given game... plus it isn't like last year where our loses were close except for the Jets game, this season , we are getting punched in the mouth early and ***** slapped the rest of the way..

Unless there is some miracle with the defense, Bush has to got to go.
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They only gave up 23 yesterday.
 
Wolf said:
well yeah.. if you get technical with it
just frustration with this defense
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That's what he does. Accept it, and never argue with it.

For instance:

Me: "I'm SICK of the Texans giving up 400 yards a game!"

TK: "They only gave up 399.99083789070891237489078901249237 yards this week."
TK: "They were even worse last week by giving up 399.99083789070891237489078901249238."
TK: "This team is getting better under Kubiak. They're still young, although in their 5th season!"

See?

Just smile, and don't argue with him. He's trying to cope with the foolishness
we see on the field the best he can.
 
DexmanC said:
That's what he does. Accept it, and never argue with it.

For instance:

Me: "I'm SICK of the Texans giving up 400 yards a game!"

TK: "They only gave up 399.99083789070891237489078901249237 yards this week."
TK: "They were even worse last week by giving up 399.99083789070891237489078901249238."
TK: "This team is getting better under Kubiak. They're still young, although in their 5th season!"

See?

Just smile, and don't argue with him. He's trying to cope with the foolishness
we see on the field the best he can.
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We each deal with it using the "tools" we have at hand. Because we basically all want the same thing I can't get too wound up over TK. He's just another Daydream Believer looking for a sign.
 
DexmanC said:
That's what he does. Accept it, and never argue with it.

For instance:

Me: "I'm SICK of the Texans giving up 400 yards a game!"

TK: "They only gave up 399.99083789070891237489078901249237 yards this week."
TK: "They were even worse last week by giving up 399.99083789070891237489078901249238."
TK: "This team is getting better under Kubiak. They're still young, although in their 5th season!"

See?

Just smile, and don't argue with him. He's trying to cope with the foolishness
we see on the field the best he can.
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"That's not what I said."
 
DexmanC said:
That's what he does. Accept it, and never argue with it.

For instance:

Me: "I'm SICK of the Texans giving up 400 yards a game!"

TK: "They only gave up 399.99083789070891237489078901249237 yards this week."
TK: "They were even worse last week by giving up 399.99083789070891237489078901249238."
TK: "This team is getting better under Kubiak. They're still young, although in their 5th season!"

See?

Just smile, and don't argue with him. He's trying to cope with the foolishness
we see on the field the best he can.
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Lol!

True story: Last night, a good friend and I got into a heated-ass argument after the game at Buffalo Wild Wings. He's Mr. Rah, Rah, the TExans can never do no wrong.

I told him that this defense is really getting on my nerves and I'm tired of this ****. This fool said - and I kid you not - "Well, the Texans have always had a bad defense. Kubiak inherited it."

That's what he said. Granted, this was after a dozen or so beers, but he would have said the same thing regardless. I told him that this is Kubiak's defense and that he needed to own it. He then told me I needed to have a bit more loyalty, and that good teams take a while to build. I damn near screamed that I"ve been a season ticket holder for five years, and that Kubiak has had enough time to build a team.

Some people want to give Kubiak a lifetime contract. If you complain that the team has holes, they say, "Well, but, it was even worse under Capers."

It's a total loser mentality.
 
it's kinda funny re-reading some of my posts in this thread, i get drunk and argue just to argue ... making a lick of sense rarely coming into play lol.
 
Scooter said:
it's kinda funny re-reading some of my posts in this thread, i get drunk and argue just to argue ... making a lick of sense rarely coming into play lol.
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I can certainly relate. Somebody named Mojo might agree. All kidding aside, I hate when that happens.
 
Two things.

One. I'm sick and tired of Kubiak and his damned excuses and poor play from such a talented team.

Two. The season isn't over with yet.

I'm wrestling with those two items because they both are true. A few more loses though, and you can throw item two out the window.
 
Thorn said:
Two things.

One. I'm sick and tired of Kubiak and his damned excuses and poor play from such a talented team.

Two. The season isn't over with yet.

I'm wrestling with those two items because they both are true. A few more loses though, and you can throw item two out the window.
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"In each of us two natures are at war ... The good and the evil. All our lives the fight goes on between them, but one of them must conquer. In our own hands lies the power to chose. What we want most to be, we are." -- Dr. Henry Jekyll
 
Thorn said:
If this happens again this year I'm gonna go crazy.
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Yes sir! You and me both and probably most of this board sans those that have rose glasses on as of now already.

I have never been in the fire him now club. But, if that happens again this year, I'll be a new member to the soap club. I'm giving him until the end of the year. Tick - tock Kubiak, tick - tock.
 
wagonhed said:
Does anyone know why I can't change my avatar to something custom? I only have the preset options and nowhere to select my own. Help! I'm trying to join the pink soapers.

Oh also I can't change my signature apparently.
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If ya get a handle on that issue Wagonhed let me know. Been trying to do it since everything went green with no luck whatsoever. Try it at least once a week to no avail.
 
Wolf said:
well yeah.. if you get technical with it

just frustration with this defense
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I'm with you. Important game, they came out of the half, & allowed Indy to march 70 yards for a touchdown.

No more touchdowns after that, but two 5+ minute drives for field goals killed us.
 
DexmanC said:
Just smile, and don't argue with him. He's trying to cope with the foolishness
we see on the field the best he can.
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I'm just looking for accuracy. I'm griping about the same problem we've had for 8 weeks, a piss-poor passing game, which I would think should be more alarming to more people.

Sure, we put up 400 yards in several games, & we're top 5 or whatever, but every one of those games we aired it out because we were playing catch-up because the passing game is broke.

& it's not the playcalling, we've got wide open receivers who either don't catch the ball, or the ball is thrown late or behind the receiver.

In all honesty, now that I think about it, it's like Kubiak said..... don't worry about the running game after 2008, & 2009 we stink. Don't worry about the passing game after 2009, & 2010 we stink.

Let's jump on that a real problem, & I'll be on your side.
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm just looking for accuracy. I'm griping about the same problem we've had for 8 weeks, a piss-poor passing game, which I would think should be more alarming to more people.

Sure, we put up 400 yards in several games, & we're top 5 or whatever, but every one of those games we aired it out because we were playing catch-up because the passing game is broke.

& it's not the playcalling, we've got wide open receivers who either don't catch the ball, or the ball is thrown late or behind the receiver.

In all honesty, now that I think about it, it's like Kubiak said..... don't worry about the running game after 2008, & 2009 we stink. Don't worry about the passing game after 2009, & 2010 we stink.

Let's jump on that a real problem, & I'll be on your side.
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Every year it's one phase up, another phase down. Then it's one
phase down, another phase up.

What do you get, when one component drops at the equal pace
the other component rises? 50/50

What's Kubiak's record over 4.5 seasons? 35-36

How many more years of this must we endure? There are many
Mike Tomlins and Todd Haleys waiting for an opportunity. Hell,
just look at Tampa Bay. We're wasting time when we know
what we've got just ain't good enough.
 
houstonspartan said:
Lol!
I damn near screamed that I"ve been a season ticket holder for five years, and that Kubiak has had enough time to build a team.

Some people want to give Kubiak a lifetime contract. If you complain that the team has holes, they say, "Well, but, it was even worse under Capers."

It's a total loser mentality.
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I bought my tickets in 2006, technically, this is my fifth season, just like Kubiak's fifth season.

I think 5 years is where the line should be, from where we were..... no identity, no history, no "vets" worth a damn. He started with less than nothing.

He should have done it in 4 years, but he didn't. I'm fine with giving him one more year. & I've always said that. If he does it in 3 years, great. 4 years good. 5 years.... eh.

But 5 years isn't halfway over yet. The team doesn't look good, & I'm very disappointed. But even if we went 7-0 to this point, 8-0 by next week, we wouldn't have learned anything about this team. The test is coming up.

going 8-0 would have allowed us to go 4-4 over the last 8 games, beating Denver, Philly, & splitting with Tennessee & Jacksonville. Which is right where we've been the last 3 years.

Everybody would be happy, because we're going to the play-offs with a 12-4 record & most likely lose our first play-off game ever.

It's getting tougher & tougher for us to win 10 games, without sweeping a division rival & beating Jets or Baltimore.
 
DexmanC said:
Every year it's one phase up, another phase down. Then it's one
phase down, another phase up.
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Yep, I made a similar note a bit earlier. Kubiak does a lot of goods things, but every years there's always some huge crippling issue that is destroying our season.
 
Texecutioner said:
Sometimes I wonder if you even watch the Texans after reading your posts. You don't ever seem to be accurate about the things that take place on the field and always go into "spin mode" for Kubiak using every effort possible without any real logic that goes back to football or how this team plays. It just seems that way to me. I wonder if you just enjoy being controversial or something, I dunno, but it just never seems to add up.
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I wonder the same thing.
 
All this arguing, while fun, is extremely redundant. Basically everybody is on the same page that if Kubes doesn't perform well for the rest of the season then he is out the door. Even his strongest supporters are getting on board with this idea. All we can do now is cheer our team on and hope that somehow we manage to reach the playoffs. Go Texans!
 
TexCanada said:
All this arguing, while fun, is extremely redundant. Basically everybody is on the same page that if Kubes doesn't perform well for the rest of the season then he is out the door. Even his strongest supporters are getting on board with this idea. All we can do now is cheer our team on and hope that somehow we manage to reach the playoffs. Go Texans!
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^^^This.
 
TexCanada said:
All this arguing, while fun, is extremely redundant. Basically everybody is on the same page that if Kubes doesn't perform well for the rest of the season then he is out the door. Even his strongest supporters are getting on board with this idea. All we can do now is cheer our team on and hope that somehow we manage to reach the playoffs. Go Texans!
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Yep, I can get with that!!!!

You were repped!!
 
DexmanC said:
How many more years of this must we endure? There are many
Mike Tomlins and Todd Haleys waiting for an opportunity. Hell,
just look at Tampa Bay. We're wasting time when we know
what we've got just ain't good enough.
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So now you're telling me that Todd Haley is a good coach? That Raheem Morris(?) is a good coach?

This is based on what, have they won Super Bowls like Tomlin that buys them some cred? The Mike Tomlin good coach that took a Super Bowl team to 9-7 & behind the Texans in tie breakers?

You've seen Kubiak put this team together from scratch... You may not like it, but I don't see how you can deny a consistent 8-8 is better than what we were before he got here. Like I said, I can understand you not liking that, but what has Raheem Morris & Tod Haley done that makes them "good coaches" or even worthy of the opportunity they were given?

Obviously you are using something other than past history, because neither has any.

Obviously you are using something other than current W-L record, because ours is right there with theirs. Don't tell me stats all of a sudden mean something now.

Don't you even want to wait & see how TB does against Atl & NO before you start singing Raheem Morris praises?

Todd Haley??

Really?

Wow........
 
Brisco_County said:
You know who else has a team full of young, under-developed talent? The Patriots. And they're 6-1.
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But they have a proven head coach that has taken them to the Super Bowl - more than once.

Ours has proven that he can take this team to .500. That does not get you to the playoffs much less the Super Bowl.

If we end up at .500 again - he needs to go. At 9-7 he still needs to go. If we end up at the bottom of the AFC South - he needs to go.

I have been a supporter, but Monday night's game did me in.
 
Grams said:
But they have a proven head coach that has taken them to the Super Bowl - more than once.

Ours has proven that he can take this team to .500. That does not get you to the playoffs much less the Super Bowl.

If we end up at .500 again - he needs to go. At 9-7 he still needs to go. If we end up at the bottom of the AFC South - he needs to go.

I have been a supporter, but Monday night's game did me in.
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Ditto. For the first time ever, I'm flying the pink soap now. He's arguably not the full reason for mediocrity, but his position is the one held accountable.

I'm convinced he could drive the Steelers to 8-8.
 
I heard an interesting stat on the radio this morning. Only three current coaches in the NFL that have two or more years experience have losing records: Norv Turner, Marvin Lewis, and Gary Kubiak. Only one of them have never been the playoffs.
 
thunderkyss said:
So now you're telling me that Todd Haley is a good coach? That Raheem Morris(?) is a good coach?

This is based on what, have they won Super Bowls like Tomlin that buys them some cred? The Mike Tomlin good coach that took a Super Bowl team to 9-7 & behind the Texans in tie breakers?

You've seen Kubiak put this team together from scratch... You may not like it, but I don't see how you can deny a consistent 8-8 is better than what we were before he got here. Like I said, I can understand you not liking that, but what has Raheem Morris & Tod Haley done that makes them "good coaches" or even worthy of the opportunity they were given?

Obviously you are using something other than past history, because neither has any.

Obviously you are using something other than current W-L record, because ours is right there with theirs. Don't tell me stats all of a sudden mean something now.

Don't you even want to wait & see how TB does against Atl & NO before you start singing Raheem Morris praises?

Todd Haley??

Really?

Wow........
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I'm tellin you all those coaches have accomplished more in THEIR first
two seasons, than Kubiak has in FIVE. Add Mike Smith to that list.
 
TexCanada said:
All this arguing, while fun, is extremely redundant. Basically everybody is on the same page that if Kubes doesn't perform well for the rest of the season then he is out the door. Even his strongest supporters are getting on board with this idea. All we can do now is cheer our team on and hope that somehow we manage to reach the playoffs. Go Texans!
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That's how I feel!:tiphat:
 
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