The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK & REPLACEMENT thread

[HTown2ATX]

First, we gotta stop giving Chris Carter credit for "C'mon Man!!" That's Keyshawn's thing.

Actually, the originator of that was Joey Porter in the locker room post game one time. Remember, that was the game where he legally nailed Peyton Manning (or Tom Brady, one of the two but I think Manning) and he got flagged for it. After the game he was on a rant about that call and busted out with the first C'MON MAN.

I like CC's version of it better than Key but I digress.

Infantry - I know no one is saying that the D is great the way it is. But some sure are spinning as hard as possible that it's not THAT bad when it in fact is beyond THAT bad.

There is nothing to spin with this D and the skin of the Texans teeth only wins so many games throughout a year. That's all I'm saying.

 

[gary]

Smith and Kubiak also bother me by not pulling the trigger on many trades I am not a cool aid drinker.

 

[Wolf6151]

It seems with the trade deadline pending, no rumors on the horizon, a second half of the season schedule that's just brutal, and Kubiak continually stating that we're going to play with the guys we've got that he is intent and content on going down with the ship. More power to him, he can't be gone fast enough for me. Let's hope that McNair has learned enough to find a good head coach next time.

 

[HOU-TEX]

I do. Not to mention names, but the member's name rhymes with schmunderkyss.

Is that similar to fumundakyss?

 

[infantrycak]

There is nothing to spin with this D and the skin of the Texans teeth only wins so many games throughout a year. That's all I'm saying.

Sure. Odd but the 3 worst D's in the league right now have a combined record of 11-6 and the lowest that loss number could be was 3 since there have been three games against each other.

 

[Goatcheese]

Look on the bright side... if Kubes rides the Flaming Peteys to another January at home atleast he left a lot of talented TEs for Bill Cowher to work with.

 

[HTown2ATX]

Sure. Odd but the 3 worst D's in the league right now have a combined record of 11-6 and the lowest that loss number could be was 3 since there have been three games against each other.

And the Chiefs started at 3-0. The Bucs went into Cincy and got the W and SF who should have been by default the division winner with all that garbage out there are 1-5 with St Louis near the top of the division...

Sometimes the NFL is crazy, hardly what I would bet on a consistent basis though.

 

[infantrycak]

Sometimes the NFL is crazy, hardly what I would bet on a consistent basis though.

Certainly nothing to base predictions on. But the NFL is crazy that way. I bet .0000001% of people would have given the Texans a snowball's chance if you told folks Peyton was going to hang 500 yds passing on them.

 

[gtexan02]

Stat of the week:

The SD Chargers have the #1 ranked defense AND the #1 ranked offense and are 2-4.

Our defense is good enough to win games at this point. We're 4-2. They may be awful, but record is what it is.

 

[bckey]

Now the record doesn't count.

Every Texans fans is extremely happy that they are 4-2. Some of us are looking at this defense (On track to be possibly the worst ever in NFL history against the pass) and then looking at the remaining games on the schedule and we see big trouble. The Titans and Colts have the same record as the Texans as well. The Texans have never had a winning record in their own division under Kubiak. I don't see how they can pull 6 wins out of the remaining 10 games which is what they will likely need to make the playoffs. I'm sorry if that sounds negative but this defense is that bad unless you are watching through TK's glasses.

It will take a good move before the trade deadline today or a miracle street free agent pickup to save this season. Kubiak's kids just aren't getting it done on defense.

 

[Texan_Bill]

Look on the bright side... if Kubes rides the Flaming Peteys to another January at home atleast he left a lot of talented TEs for Bill Cowher to work with.

I guarantee you the Texans will play in January!!

 

[HTown2ATX]

I bet .0000001% of people would have given the Texans a snowball's chance if you told folks Peyton was going to hang 500 yds passing on them.

Absolutely. But if you were the coach, how many times would you play with fire like that?

Not many I'd guess. But instead of making changes it seems we are going to just stand pat and spin the situation. Now we could come out and have some changes made we were unaware were being done right now or the D could somehow magically turn around by itself......but we are already 6 games deep and I don't see that happening.

 

[thunderkyss]

It seems with the trade deadline pending, no rumors on the horizon, a second half of the season schedule that's just brutal, and Kubiak continually stating that we're going to play with the guys we've got that he is intent and content on going down with the ship. More power to him, he can't be gone fast enough for me. Let's hope that McNair has learned enough to find a good head coach next time.

If I were a head coach, I would be begging my GM to be working his butt off to get someone in here who can help.

However, when asked by the media, I'm going to say, "We believe the guys on our 53 can get it done. It's my job to make sure that happens."

I don't want the guys on the 53 to be looking over their shoulder, until Asomugha walks into the locker room.

I think it's pretty evident what they need to be concerned with.

 

[thunderkyss]

Stat of the week:

The SD Chargers have the #1 ranked defense AND the #1 ranked offense and are 2-4.

Our defense is good enough to win games at this point. We're 4-2. They may be awful, but record is what it is.

That's a major point I've been trying to stress. We've played good D before, we've played good offense (most of the time) but we found ways to lose.

The 53 guys we've been putting on the field..... regardless who they were, have found a way to win games. & it hasn't been the offense saving the defenses butt, or the defense saving the offenses butt..... it's been team wins.

How can we be upset with that?

Oh yeah, throw the Cowboys up there with the #3 offense, & the #4 defense, & the 1-5 record looking up at the NFC East.

 

[gary]

Capers was here for four seasons. 4-12, 5-11, 7-9, 2-14.

This is Kubiak's fifth season as HC.

I said it before the season started and I'm sticking to it: I reserve judgment on Kubiak until the season is over.

While I certainly understand the frustration in this thread about the inconsistent football that we are witnessing, I'm not going to lie, 4-2 feels great!!!

The Texans snatched victory from the jaws of defeat yesterday, and like most every other Texans fan, I thought we were going to lose for 59 minutes and 32 seconds. But man, you've got to give credit where it's due, and both the players and coaches showed us something that this franchise is not known for: resilience.

Who knows what the future holds, but I do know that we - as fans - should sit back, take a breather on the bye-week, and just enjoy 4-2 right now.

The Cheifs lost the game with a comeback by the Texans but if the D continues to stink then after the bye things will get ugly.

 

[Ckw]

That's my point, right there in bold!!! Some people aren't happy unless they're miserable. The defense sucks!! Gary Kubiak sucks!! Andre Johnson, well nevermind there!!! The cheerleaders suck and not in the good way. It matters not!! Because a win is a win is a win... Unless you're Texan fan, then it's a win is a whine is a whine!!!

What? I don't know our defense sucks? I've been preaching defense since the days of Sharper, Glenn, Coleman, Payne and Gary Walker!!! I can admit that.

Some people ***** to hear themselves ***** or at least wanna make themselves out to be some self-professed genius. These are the same people that tell you stats are for losers, but when those stats are negative, they are the first ones to bring it up..


The only stats that matter are:
4-2
#1 in the AFC South.

Thank G*D I'm going to Ren Fest this weekend!! I need a weekend away from the geniuses around here.

This is the frustrating hypocrisy. Of course analyzing the team is the main purpose of this MB but many of the naysayers last year called any attempt to analyze and see improvement drinking koolaid, being a homer, making excuses because all that mattered was the record. Now the record doesn't count.

I don't see people claiming the D is just hunky dory.

Geez, no one, at least that I have read, is saying the record doesn't count. But guess what guys? The season doesn't end after 6 games. 4-2 is great! I am thrilled!

But if all of you recognize that the D looks like ****, then how can you be overly optimistic about the next 10 games? This defense is the worst defense in the entire league. We can't reasonably expect our offense to continue getting lucky and making huge plays at the end of games to keep us winning. It simply isn't realistic.

But go on. Continue celebrating the fact that we are 4-2. I am happy too. I'm also a realist and recognize we can't continue doing the things that we have been doing. We can't continue giving up 410.5 yards per game, 306.2 passing, and 27.8 points per game. The teams we are surrounded by (Detroit, Oakland, Arizona, Buffalo, Jacksonville, and Denver) are a combined 11-23. Good company.

 

[Ckw]

Sure. Odd but the 3 worst D's in the league right now have a combined record of 11-6 and the lowest that loss number could be was 3 since there have been three games against each other.

Worst D's by what standard? Points allowed seems like the measuring stick and by my math, not including us, the worst defensive teams in the league are a combined 11-23. Nice spin though.

 

[thunderkyss]

I'm sorry if that sounds negative but this defense is that bad unless you are watching through TK's glasses.

It will take a good move before the trade deadline today or a miracle street free agent pickup to save this season. Kubiak's kids just aren't getting it done on defense.

I've made the argument several times, that if our offense gets us a lead early in games, that will allow our defense to fly after the ball carrier, and put some serious stops on our opponents. So far this season, we haven't given up more than 3 points when the offense held the ball more than 4 minutes.

Using game data that is available all over the place, shoot holes in that theory.

I don't understand why the game day thread of the NYGiants game go on & on about great hits our D got on Eli, talk about Antonio (or whoever) chasing Manning out of the pocket, but when the final whistle blows, and the final score is 34-10... everyone starts believing we couldn't pressure Manning at all. They forget that we opened the second half forcing the Giants to go three & out on their first possession, forced an INT on the second possession, & forced an INT on the third possession putting our offense on the 17 yard line which led to the only touchdown they scored on 13 possessions.

On the Giants first offensive possession, they totaled a negative 3 yards of offense.

I'm not talking about good defensive possessions, I'm talking about outstanding defensive possessions.

Looks more like a consistency issue, than a talent issue. That's all I'm saying.

 

[thunderkyss]

The Cheifs lost the game with a comeback by the Texans but if the D continues to stink then after the bye things will get ugly.

How many times have people said that about the Colts?

They beat the Texans with an ugly 4th Qtr miracle. If that defense keeps playing like that, they won't make it to the post season.

 

[infantrycak]

Worst D's by what standard? Points allowed seems like the measuring stick and by my math, not including us, the worst defensive teams in the league are a combined 11-23. Nice spin though.

The common measuring stick used by every commentator around for O's, D's, QB's, RB's, etc. is yards and that's what I used. You might notice it is the default sorting criteria on the stat sites. But I guess Schaub wasn't really the "leading passer" last year because he didn't have the most passing TD's and CJ wasn't the "leading rusher" because he didn't have the most rushing TD's. You want to add in the scoring comparison fine but using the most common standard isn't spin.

 

[DexmanC]

How many times have people said that about the Colts?

They beat the Texans with an ugly 4th Qtr miracle. If that defense keeps playing like that, they won't make it to the post season.

The Texans have never demonstrated the ability to win consistently for
even a SINGLE SEASON, the Colts are the model for "consistency in winning."
Skins on the wall back a lot of critics off. The
Texans need to pretend everybody's from Missouri and "SHOW ME"
something.

 

[Ckw]

Stick your spin where it don't shine. The common measuring stick used by every commentator around for O's, D's, QB's, RB's, etc. is yards and that's what I used. You might notice it is the default sorting criteria on the stat sites. But I guess Schaub wasn't really the "leading passer" last year because he didn't have the most passing TD's and CJ wasn't the "leading rusher" because he didn't have the most rushing TD's.

Touchdowns, especially on a team basis, is what counts IMO. But I'll bite. Let's take a larger sample size and look at the ten worst teams in yards allowed per game. Their combined record: 25-30. Take the Texans out of that list and add in the next worst defense by your standards (the Raiders), and they are a combined 23-32. Take that and stick it "where it don't shine."

 

[HTown2ATX]

Lol. I just had a funny thought in my head.

Defending this Defense is like that Iraq information minister who kept swearing up and down that the US was not in Iraq. LMAO.

I can almost hear him now in the report of the game as play by play while a DB gets smoked "there are NO WR's in the secondary!!"

(FYI...this was not an insult at anyone...just something funny that popped into my head.)

 

[gary]

The Texans have never demonstrated the ability to win consistently for
even a SINGLE SEASON, the Colts are the model for "consistency in winning."
Skins on the wall back a lot of critics off. The
Texans need to pretend everybody's from Missouri and "SHOW ME"
something.

Exactly.

 

[Double Barrel]

I guarantee you the Texans will play in January!!

I'll top you on that prediction by guaranteeing that the Texans will play the Jaguars in January!
I see what you did there...

The Cheifs lost the game with a comeback by the Texans but if the D continues to stink then after the bye things will get ugly.

The team is 4-2 with that defense, so your prediction is pessimistic, at best.

I think Texans fans are sailing unchartered waters with a 4-2 record and are not sure what to do with themselves. I'll admit that it's shaky ground, but I'm going to enjoy it while we've got it. The future will be here soon enough, and our record will be somewhere between 14-2 and 4-12.

 

[Ckw]

The team is 4-2 with that defense, so your prediction is pessimistic, at best.

I think Texans fans are sailing unchartered waters with a 4-2 record and are not sure what to do with themselves. I'll admit that it's shaky ground, but I'm going to enjoy it while we've got it. The future will be here soon enough, and our record will be somewhere between 14-2 and 4-12.

Good outlook DB. I will do my best to join you in this frame of mind.

 

[texansdrummer]

Every Texans fans is extremely happy that they are 4-2. Some of us are looking at this defense (On track to be possibly the worst ever in NFL history against the pass) and then looking at the remaining games on the schedule and we see big trouble. The Titans and Colts have the same record as the Texans as well. The Texans have never had a winning record in their own division under Kubiak. I don't see how they can pull 6 wins out of the remaining 10 games which is what they will likely need to make the playoffs. I'm sorry if that sounds negative but this defense is that bad unless you are watching through TK's glasses.

It will take a good move before the trade deadline today or a miracle street free agent pickup to save this season. Kubiak's kids just aren't getting it done on defense.

Given that we went without Cush for four games, Andre for a game, and Duane Brown for a few, could you have seen how we could be 4-2 including a win vs. Indy right now?

Incidentally, I don't recall seeing TK purporting that the defense has been anything BUT bad (Aside from some select moments). No idea where you're pulling that from - please, do tell/show.

 

[steelbtexan]

I'll top you on that prediction by guaranteeing that the Texans will play the Jaguars in January!
I see what you did there...



The team is 4-2 with that defense, so your prediction is pessimistic, at best.

I think Texans fans are sailing unchartered waters with a 4-2 record and are not sure what to do with themselves. I'll admit that it's shaky ground, but I'm going to enjoy it while we've got it. The future will be here soon enough, and our record will be somewhere between 14-2 and 4-12.

I'm on board with this.

I'm enjoying the moment.

Hoping for improvement on both sides of the ball coming out of the break.

 

[steelbtexan]

Given that we went without Cush for four games, Andre for a game, and Duane Brown for a few, could you have seen how we could be 4-2 including a win vs. Indy right now?

Incidentally, I don't recall seeing TK purporting that the defense has been anything BUT bad (Aside from some select moments). No idea where you're pulling that from - please, do tell/show.

A bit of devine intervention has helped the Texans reach a 4-2 record.

Heres hoping that it continues.

 

[texansdrummer]

The accusatory "celebrating that we're 4-2" diatribe on here is ridiculous. I have yet to see a post where anyone is "celebrating" 4-2 or making predictions of a SB.

I guess if you're pleased that we are 4-2, it counts as "celebrating"?

Some of you need to get out more often........

 

[Double Barrel]

Given that we went without Cush for four games, Andre for a game, and Duane Brown for a few, could you have seen how we could be 4-2 including a win vs. Indy right now?

Incidentally, I don't recall seeing TK purporting that the defense has been anything BUT bad (Aside from some select moments). No idea where you're pulling that from - please, do tell/show.

Only because you asked, here is one where TK says the "problem is on offense":

Agreed.

People want to get on me for saying that our problem is the offense, not the defense. They are ok with the "easy" answer, the answer the stats point to.

IMHO, you have to look at who our head coach is, and how our team is built.

Kubiak came from Denver & San Francisco. Their defenses only looked good (great??) because of the offense. Get ahead early on the score board, shut down the run, get after the QB. That's the way it was done. If we can get out early on offense, our small quick defensive line will get you a 3 & out. They've done it this year several times, giving the offense the ball, giving us an opportunity to get on the board, tie the game, or take the lead.

You don't go down by 24 points, (or whatever we spotted Washington) then come back to tie, then take the lead, unless the defense gets a few stops in there somewhere.

We've got a DL with 4 quarter horses.... no thoroughbreds. We aren't built to spend 40+ minutes on the field on defense. I know, you're saying if they get their 3 & outs, they won't be on the field...... check the play by play, go watch the games again.... it's ridiculous how many opportunities our offense had to put points on the board, yet they couldn't get a first down.

Kubiak is playing it up, letting the media jump all over his defense, allowing the offense to figure it out, without a lot of outside pressure. The defense is taking one for the team.

But our problem is on offense.

Show me a game where Schaub & the O click coming out of the gate, & I swear you will see a dominating defensive performance.

Understand the Colts game was game 1 without Cushing & with a rookie CB..... but any game after week 3, if our O would have showed up early, we would have seen a show.

It's an interesting take, TK, and I'm certainly not trying to call you out. Even though I disagree with your overall premise (I think the defense is horrible), I respect your thoughts and the time you put into presenting them to us.

Good outlook DB. I will do my best to join you in this frame of mind.

I'm on board with this.

I'm enjoying the moment.

Hoping for improvement on both sides of the ball coming out of the break.

Thanks, y'all, just trying to talk everyone off the ledge for the moment. We've got plenty of season left to start looking down at the street below, so I figure just appreciate and enjoy this historical 4-2 point...and hope with all of our hearts that this is not the highlight of our season! (Because if it is, then we need to take advantage and enjoy it fully! lol!)

I think we need to realize that we won't be dominating many (or any) teams over the next 10 games, but by the same token, these are Kubiak's Cardiac Kids, so don't turn the game off until 0:00 is on the clock. It's just that kind of year.

 

[texansdrummer]

Only because you asked, here is one where TK says the "problem is on offense":

Fair enough - He says there are problems on offense. There are. Otherwise, it's arguably very speculative in that we haven't exactly dominated early on offense. It's an interesting take - I'm sure the overwhelming majority of us blame the defense and see FAR more problems there. Still don't really get that he's making the claim that the defense is playing "good" per se, more that they might play well if the offense produced more out of the gate.

 

[thunderkyss]

The Texans have never demonstrated the ability to win consistently for
even a SINGLE SEASON, the Colts are the model for "consistency in winning."
Skins on the wall back a lot of critics off. The
Texans need to pretend everybody's from Missouri and "SHOW ME"
something.

Exactly.

Not really. My point, is that they don't say that about the Colts, because their offense shows up every game. They aren't relying on their defense to win any games.

They could be in the bottom quartile of the league in the run game for the last 6 years, but it isn't a big concern, because they have that offense.

The game against Miami is one that comes to mind. Miami ran that wildcat all up & down the Colts, controlled the ball for 45+ minutes.

But that offense was able to score enough points for the win regardless.

Scroll to the bottom of this link Indy had to score 27 points in 14:53

They had to score more than 23 points in 5 games last year. But no one is crying about their defense.

 

[thunderkyss]

Touchdowns, especially on a team basis, is what counts IMO. But I'll bite. Let's take a larger sample size and look at the ten worst teams in yards allowed per game. Their combined record: 25-30. Take the Texans out of that list and add in the next worst defense by your standards (the Raiders), and they are a combined 23-32. Take that and stick it "where it don't shine."

So how does that counter the argument that the Patriots & Skins are winning right now?

The three worst defenses in the league right now, are
30: New England
31: Houston
32: Washington

I think infantrycak's point is still valid... unless you think we have more in common with Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit, & Oakland...... I'd like to see that argument.

 

[spurstexanstros]

as bad as our d has been playing it just comes down to one play or should I say 1 down. Third down is the key for this team. I bet when the Texans stop a team on third down their winning pct is pretty good. Yds and the big play dont concern me too much it is making stops on third down tha I believe are the key to this teams success. For example when the team went on win streak last year I believe they led the league in that category last year. They still gave up alot of yards but they got the ball back in the hands of the high powerd offense and that is how this team wins games.

 

[DexmanC]

Not really. My point, is that they don't say that about the Colts, because their offense shows up every game. They aren't relying on their defense to win any games.

They could be in the bottom quartile of the league in the run game for the last 6 years, but it isn't a big concern, because they have that offense.

The game against Miami is one that comes to mind. Miami ran that wildcat all up & down the Colts, controlled the ball for 45+ minutes.

But that offense was able to score enough points for the win regardless.

Scroll to the bottom of this link Indy had to score 27 points in 14:53

They had to score more than 23 points in 5 games last year. But no one is crying about their defense.

No one takes a microsope to the Colts, because they win 10-12 games
a year. Going in-depth to highlight their weaknesses is "nit-picking."
You finish with 10-12 wins every dang year, people will give you the
benefit of the doubt when you lose.

The Texans lose as much as they win, and have for the last three
seasons. Thus, people will break this team down to a microscopic level
to determine WHY the Texans can't seem to reach the "10-12 win-per-year" club.

The Colts are the Colts. The Texans are the Texans.
The Texans have YET to prove they belong on the same FIELD as the Colts.
MNF is a huge game. The Texans must win this division, before they win
new believers. MNF will go a long way to show "where this team's 'hoyt' is at!"

 

[HTown2ATX]

The three worst defenses in the league right now, are
30: New England
31: Houston
32: Washington

All that proves is that all 3 teams are in the same boat and better change some things.

Division by division.

New England - Miami and NYJ are right there and have much better defense. Think New England comes out 1st or 2nd in that if they don't change things?

Washington - Really think they are gonna keep winning and are not a fluke?? I mean like for real, for real? Not to even mention division with Eagles and Giants.

Houston - We all know our division and we all saw bumblescum mountain whoop JAX last night. So, no need to break down the obvious.

 

[Livid13]

The accusatory "celebrating that we're 4-2" diatribe on here is ridiculous. I have yet to see a post where anyone is "celebrating" 4-2 or making predictions of a SB.

I guess if you're pleased that we are 4-2, it counts as "celebrating"?

Some of you need to get out more often........

You're right, there's absolutely NO need to celebrate being atop the division. BTW, I get out quite often.

 

[thunderkyss]

It's an interesting take, TK, and I'm certainly not trying to call you out. Even though I disagree with your overall premise (I think the defense is horrible), I respect your thoughts and the time you put into presenting them to us.

No worries. Gives us something to talk about.

But, even in that post, I'm saying our best defense is our offense. Our D is suspect for all the reasons mentioned already. We have work to do on our D...... eventually we should be able to expect them to win a few games for us.

I'm just saying they have never been that for us. Not even last year, when their stats were crazy over the last 13 games. The offense did it's thing, which allowed our guys to go 100% in short bursts...

 

[thunderkyss]

Fair enough - He says there are problems on offense. There are. Otherwise, it's arguably very speculative in that we haven't exactly dominated early on offense. It's an interesting take - I'm sure the overwhelming majority of us blame the defense and see FAR more problems there. Still don't really get that he's making the claim that the defense is playing "good" per se, more that they might play well if the offense produced more out of the gate.

I'm saying the numbers (stats) wouldn't look so bad if the offense did it's part.

 

[thunderkyss]

The Colts are the Colts. The Texans are the Texans.
The Texans have YET to prove they belong on the same FIELD as the Colts.
MNF is a huge game. The Texans must win this division, before they win
new believers. MNF will go a long way to show "where this team's 'hoyt' is at!"

You may be the only person on this board who believes the Texans don't belong on the field with the Colts.

& I don't care about them other motherhuggers.

You keep turning my point around, I'm not arguing that the Texans are the Colts.

I'm not arguing that Monday's game is not huge. I'm not arguing don't need to win the division, or need new believers.

 

[Ryan]

Well Kubiak isn't eager to improve the team by making any moves at the deadline, this could make or break his job.

 

[thunderkyss]

All that proves is that all 3 teams are in the same boat and better change some things.

Division by division.

New England - Miami and NYJ are right there and have much better defense. Think New England comes out 1st or 2nd in that if they don't change things?

Washington - Really think they are gonna keep winning and are not a fluke?? I mean like for real, for real? Not to even mention division with Eagles and Giants.

Houston - We all know our division and we all saw bumblescum mountain whoop JAX last night. So, no need to break down the obvious.

Tennessee, Houston & Jacksonville have had better defenses than the Colts for some time now. Hasn't really changed who sits on top of the division very often (only once really). Contrary to popular belief, the division is decided by the 10 games played outside the division more than the 6 division games. You could lose all six & still potentially win the division.

I remember one year the Cowboys were 6-0 in the division, but were the Wildcard & Washington (3-3 in the division I think) was the division champ.

 

[Double Barrel]

No worries. Gives us something to talk about.

But, even in that post, I'm saying our best defense is our offense. Our D is suspect for all the reasons mentioned already. We have work to do on our D...... eventually we should be able to expect them to win a few games for us.

I'm just saying they have never been that for us. Not even last year, when their stats were crazy over the last 13 games. The offense did it's thing, which allowed our guys to go 100% in short bursts...

You have a good point, and like you said, something to talk about and it certainly makes me think from different perspectives. That's a good thing.

Jen mentioned in her thread about scripting plays. Do you think this contributes to the offense's slow start? As I understand the concept of scripting to be somewhat more reactive in that you're seeing what the defense has planned for, but does this limit the ability to adjust early in the game?

Three aspect of the WC offense that I've noticed are scripting plays to start the game, 80% or better for TDs in the red zone, and close games that come down to the end. This is exactly what we saw last week in the Chiefs game, and comes from the Bill Walsh tree of coaching.

 

[thunderkyss]

Jen mentioned in her thread about scripting plays. Do you think this contributes to the offense's slow start? As I understand the concept of scripting to be somewhat more reactive in that you're seeing what the defense has planned for, but does this limit the ability to adjust early in the game?

The way I see scripting plays, is more about defining a game plan and sticking to it. Not allowing short term information to affect long term thinking.

It is flexible enough to adjust to the situation, but the script keeps you on schedule.

I think the slow starts have been about JJ droping balls... OD not being 100% & things like that. JJ getting more snaps than Anderson... actually running the ball.

I put a little of that on Matt & Knapp, 6 games into the season, you'd think they have a pre-game warm-up routine that works... a little on Kubiak/Dennison..... let's get a script that works for #8... & JJ , catch the damn ball...

 

[DexmanC]

I think the slow starts have been about JJ droping balls... OD not being 100% & things like that. JJ getting more snaps than Anderson... actually running the ball.

What's with the DA love I hear so many people with? As a punt returner,
he's a disaster. In a situation where you need a touchdown or big play
to finish a drive, he's a disaster. JJ gets no credit at all when compared
to DA, and I don't get it.

 

[HJam72]

DA is white.

 

[JB]

DA is white.

That must be why the Texans suck... too many racists on the team & coaching staff....

 

[thunderkyss]

What's with the DA love I hear so many people with? As a punt returner,
he's a disaster. In a situation where you need a touchdown or big play
to finish a drive, he's a disaster. JJ gets no credit at all when compared
to DA, and I don't get it.

I love JJ. I was arguing he should be our #2, but DA was another safety blanket for Schaub on third downs.

 

[SheTexan]

That must be why the Texans suck... too many racists on the team & coaching staff....

Yea, start ANOTHER FIRE BUSH thread immediately!! Our d sucks because he is BLACK!! Geeeeezzzz!! I have bronchitis, need a hot tottie and a good movie! Chat with all you "racist" later!!!