The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK & REPLACEMENT thread

[DexmanC]

If they were to play the Bucs they'd probably allow less than 24 points.

The Texans just allowed Matt Cassell, season QB rating around 55, go
off for a rating of 120+. The Chiefs score around 17 points a game,
yet put up 31 on the Texans. What evidence do you have, that the
Texans can hold ANY team under 24 points?

 

[thunderkyss]

...and the kiddie corners got worked by receivers
with bad hands today.

Let me get this straight.

Because receivers caught balls they dropped every other game of the year, our defense is bad?

Because they all of a sudden got stick'm on their gloves, our defense is bad.

I'm not denying that we have work to do on the defense. Not denying that at all, but your argument here (at least on of them) is that we are so bad... guys who normally drop balls catch them when they play us.

Is that what you are saying?

 

[DexmanC]

Let me get this straight.

Because receivers caught balls they dropped every other game of the year, our defense is bad?

Because they all of a sudden got stick'm on their gloves, our defense is bad.

I'm not denying that we have work to do on the defense. Not denying that at all, but your argument here (at least on of them) is that we are so bad... guys who normally drop balls catch them when they play us.

Is that what you are saying?

I'm saying the Texans give no team *pause* when running their pass plays.
The Chiefs got more than twice the rushing yardage the Texans defense gives up on average.
This defense is SOFT. We're 6 games in, and that's what we've seen.

 

[kiwitexansfan]

The Texans just allowed Matt Cassell, season QB rating around 55, go
off for a rating of 120+. The Chiefs score around 17 points a game,
yet put up 31 on the Texans. What evidence do you have, that the
Texans can hold ANY team under 24 points?

OFF TOPIC: Any particular reason your posts only use half of the length of the screen? Not the easiest to read.

 

[Ckw]

Yes, Kubiak will get us to the promised land.
Yes, I was very happy with out defense last year.
Yes we've played the way I would like
It's kinda hard to turn the corner when you guys keep moving the damn thing.

Fair enough.

I just have to ask, are you related to Kubiak? Friend with him? Dating him?

These ugly wins.... would have been losses last year. Plain & simple. It's nothing that is going to show up on a stat sheet. Nothing you can put your finger on. It's that intangible maturity level we were lacking last year. If we're 100% healthy after the by, this team is going to turn circles around those corners you keep moving.

Agreed. I am happy they have been wins instead of losses.

Take inconsistent out of your vocabulary. Let's get more specific. What's wrong with our pass defense? If you say secondary, show me... if you say it's our young corners, show me.

I don't have the time to analyze tapes, print out pictures for you, or any of that crap. I go by what I see when I watch the game. What I see is that our linebackers, safeties, and corners are not that great in coverage. It was Kubiak's fault for sticking with the status quote and not doing anything to improve upon our pass defense.

There are plenty of threads around here discussing the specifics. Several posters have contributed evidence contrary to popular belief, but we keep getting the same arguments..... inconsistency.

Let's get specific, what's been inconsistent?

I don't care to play semantics with you. Our entire team has been "inconsistent." Our offense can't seem to pass the ball one half, but then is successful the next. Our defense can't seem to defend the pass or stop the run one half, but then is successful the next. We have put up one "consistent" game this season: the Colts game.

 

[thunderkyss]

soooooooooooo.... I'm saying a coach that's taken his team to the playoffs
a couple times within 5 years gets more "benefit of the doubt." Kubiak's
in a position where he has to deliver, even if all 53 men on the roster are
lost, and he has to bring in reserve players from the CFL.

What do you want him to deliver? It's obviously not wins, because we got that.

It's obviously not wins against the toughest division opponent, because we got that.

It's not being undefeated in the AFC, after 3 conference games, because we got that too.

It's not going into the bye with a winning record..... we got that.

It's not leading the division, because... yep, you guessed it, we got that to.

What do you want Kubiak to "deliver" despite the multitude of distractions?

Show me one consistent team in this league, one that dominates both sides of the ball on every snap. Just one.

 

[thunderkyss]

I do know his defense doesn't consistently give bad/mediocre quarterbacks
career games every week.

Can you back that up in any way?

 

[kiwitexansfan]

What do you want him to deliver? It's obviously not wins, because we got that.

It's obviously not wins against the toughest division opponent, because we got that.

It's not being undefeated in the AFC, after 3 conference games, because we got that too.

It's not going into the bye with a winning record..... we got that.

It's not leading the division, because... yep, you guessed it, we got that to.

What do you want Kubiak to "deliver" despite the multitude of distractions?

Show me one consistent team in this league, one that dominates both sides of the ball on every snap. Just one.

I think our perspective as fans has really shifted given that we are pretty much all grossly dissatisfied despite being 4-2 and tied for the division lead.

 

[thunderkyss]

The Texans just allowed Matt Cassell, season QB rating around 55, go
off for a rating of 120+. The Chiefs score around 17 points a game,
yet put up 31 on the Texans. What evidence do you have, that the
Texans can hold ANY team under 24 points?

I have none. But I've got 4 games worth of evidence that says they'll find a way to win.

 

[DexmanC]

What do you want him to deliver? It's obviously not wins, because we got that.

It's obviously not wins against the toughest division opponent, because we got that.

It's not being undefeated in the AFC, after 3 conference games, because we got that too.

It's not going into the bye with a winning record..... we got that.

It's not leading the division, because... yep, you guessed it, we got that to.

What do you want Kubiak to "deliver" despite the multitude of distractions?

Show me one consistent team in this league, one that dominates both sides of the ball on every snap. Just one.

Unlike previous years, the "lighter" games were front-loaded onto the
2010 schedule. There will be no miracle run of 4-0 to make 9-7 this year.
The way this team has played through 6 games, is not good enough
to beat hardly any of the next 10 games we face.

I'm critiquing the horrible defense, and flashy offense, and comparing it
to what I see from our upcoming opponents. Sloppy football will
not get us the 6 wins we need to make the playoffs, or to justify
another year of the Kubiak experiment.

We've just played the "easy" part of the schedule. Unless they come out
of the gate radically improved, things will get ugly FAST. The next
time the Texans play well in the AFC South, will be the first under Kubiak.
Until I see it, that's another 5 losses.

This 4-2 record looks built on "smoke & mirrors." They are playing
Cinderella football. It's exciting while it works, but when
the clock strikes midnight... I was expecting this team to set
the tone for the AFC South. That's just not happening with
how they are playing. We've still got 10 games to play, against
MUCH stiffer competition. Midnight is approaching FAST.

If they go to Indy and win, then I'll back off until they lose
3-in-a-row. Until then, I'll be criticizing all through the bye
week.

 

[kiwitexansfan]

I have none. But I've got 4 games worth of evidence that says they'll find a way to win.

Maybe the truth of the NFL is that you can only afford so many talented people. We happen to have all ours on Offense and are backing ourselves to blow teams out of the water often enough to make the playoffs.

 

[ObsiWan]

soooooooooooo.... I'm saying a coach that's taken his team to the playoffs
a couple times within 5 years gets more "benefit of the doubt." Kubiak's
in a position where he has to deliver, even if all 53 men on the roster are
lost, and he has to bring in reserve players from the CFL.

First, I think all head coaches this side of Sean Payton or Belichick have to deliver. Payton because he did the near impossible, made the Saints S/B champs, and Belichick because, love him or hate him, he produces year in/year out.

Second, let me understand something; you're saying that less is expected from Norv Turner (who's 2-4 Chargers were expected to win the AFC West going away this year) than from Kubiak who, as you guys delight in pointing out, does not yet have a winning record as a head coach.
You're saying Turner gets a free pass on a 2-4 record (did I mention he's 0-2 in his division?) because he couldn't replace TWO GUYS??

Yet Kubiak must produce even if he has to replace all 53? Is that what you just told us?

Didn't we lose our starting LT and two WRs at times this year? Oh, my bad, only other teams get to make excuses.

 

[Scooter]

edit: too drunk for coherant thought.

 

[DexmanC]

First, I think all head coaches this side of Sean Payton or Belichick have to deliver. Payton because he did the near impossible, made the Saints S/B champs, and Belichick because, love him or hate him, he produces year in/year out.

Second, let me understand something; you're saying that less is expected from Norv Turner (who's 2-4 Chargers were expected to win the AFC West going away this year) than from Kubiak who, as you guys delight in pointing out, does not yet have a winning record as a head coach.
You're saying Turner gets a free pass on a 2-4 record (did I mention he's 0-2 in his division?) because he couldn't replace TWO GUYS??

Yet Kubiak must produce even if he has to replace all 53? Is that what you just told us?

Didn't we lose our starting LT and two WRs at times this year? Oh, my bad, only other teams get to make excuses.

I know more about Kubiak than I do of Norv, and if Gary is on his job,
I'll have nothing to argue about. If Kubiak's doing what he's supposed
to, you'll have no reason to defend him. The very fact you can't just
dismiss what I'm saying is illustrative of the problem. Kubiak is walking
a VERY FINE LINE right now. How prepared his team comes out at
Indy, a team they play TWICE A YEAR, with TWO WEEKS TO PREPARE
for JUST Indy, will speak VOLUMES about his preparation and coaching.

I'm a Texans fan. Kubiak must show me why I should be a fan of HIM.

 

[JB]

Yes, we're 4-2. Give up 24 points on any of our division teams,
Jets, or Ravens, that's a potential 7 losses right there. This defense,
that Kubiak's responsible for, is HORRRRREENNNNDOUSSS.

We can't count the loss of Demeco as an excuse, because they
were still horrendous with him in there. Cushing isn't the animal
he was last year, and the kiddie corners got worked by receivers
with bad hands today.

The run defense is merely average. When a team runs with dedication,
they will wear this defense SMOOTH OUT. The offense can NOT put up
35-40 points a week. If we're to sniff 6 more wins this season, the
defense MUST find a way to hold people under 20 points. Has
not happened yet, and we've played more than 1/3 of the season.

Wait. I thought you were saying it's all about the RESULTS...

Now you are saying it's not about the results but how we played? Make up your mind.

 

[DexmanC]

Wait. I thought you were saying it's all about the RESULTS...

Now you are saying it's not about the results but how we played? Make up your mind.

The results are incomplete.

Results = Playoff berth after 16 games
(I would add AFC South Division Title to this definition,
but some people would call that decision "mean.")

There is NO achievement at THIS point of the season, as we're only
1/3 of the way through. I will not say "job well done," with 2/3 of the
schedule still-to-play. My assessment of this team is on what I've
seen until all 16 have been played..

This trend of sloppy execution and horrible preparation is my biggest
gripe with this regime right now. Two weeks to prepare for the Colts
should negate ANY excuse to see on MNF what we've witnessed over
the last 6 games. I want to see this team well-prepared, well-coached,
and executing the game plan like a machine in two weeks.

 

[thunderkyss]

If they go to Indy and win, then I'll back off until they lose
3-in-a-row. Until then, I'll be criticizing all through the bye
week.

I doubt it. That you'll back off that is.

Until they lose to Indy, I'm going to have faith that GK can get this team fixed. IMO, the biggest thing this team has lacked, has been fortitude. Forget the refs, forget the last play, forget that our Teammate has just been carted off the field. Forget they've been whup'n our butts for the last 3 Qtrs.... go play the best you can & win.

I'm very close to believing they've got it now. Very close. I think it's great that we got the light end of the schedule on the front end. I don't think this team would have done what it did today against the Ravens, or the Colts (I know they wouldn't have done it against the Colts), or the Jags or the Titans.


I'm freak'n ecstatic that they pulled this one out. ecstatic.

I hear what you're saying about our Defense. But I like the guys we got out there. I saw what they did last year, & we only added a few people to that side of the ball in the offseason, which to me is a plus. Gives me faith, that we can repeat what we did last year. If Kj can play as well as Dunta... & I already believe he can. If Kubiak will replace McCain (or if McCain would get back to the way he played last year)... If Demeco isn't seriously hurt..... we got this.

Dagnabbit, just found out Ryans is done for the season.

 

[DexmanC]

Demeco is done for the year. The LB corp needs to step its game up.
They've been horrible all year long.

 

[Pantherstang84]

I doubt it. That you'll back off that is.

Until they lose to Indy, I'm going to have faith that GK can get this team fixed. IMO, the biggest thing this team has lacked, has been fortitude. Forget the refs, forget the last play, forget that our Teammate has just been carted off the field. Forget they've been whup'n our butts for the last 3 Qtrs.... go play the best you can & win.

I'm very close to believing they've got it now. Very close. I think it's great that we got the light end of the schedule on the front end. I don't think this team would have done what it did today against the Ravens, or the Colts (I know they wouldn't have done it against the Colts), or the Jags or the Titans.


I'm freak'n ecstatic that they pulled this one out. ecstatic.

I hear what you're saying about our Defense. But I like the guys we got out there. I saw what they did last year, & we only added a few people to that side of the ball in the offseason, which to me is a plus. Gives me faith, that we can repeat what we did last year. If Kj can play as well as Dunta... & I already believe he can. If Kubiak will replace McCain (or if McCain would get back to the way he played last year)... If Demeco isn't seriously hurt..... we got this.

I believe it has already been established that Demeco is seriously hurt.

 

[ObsiWan]

Look, for the record, I, too, hate the way our defense is playing. ...or rather NOT playing.
They suck. No question.
I totally agree that odds are we can't keep winning if we keep giving up nearly four TDs a game - our avg is 27.67 against. Abysmal. That needs to be fixed in a hurry.

But I also see this.... Whether it's the coaches not letting them quit, the players' own will to win, or the staff gathering the kind of players that don't ever quit; we're finding ways to win games that we would have given up on before. That's why I'm a Sunshine clubber. If this team ever starts to give up or quit on games then I'll get a pink soap avatar too.

But not until then.

 

[ObsiWan]

Demeco is done for the year. The LB corp needs to step its game up.
They've been horrible all year long.

Hey, we agree on something. Their pass coverage has been attrocious.

 

[GP]

The Chiefs, today, played like the Texans usually play.

Get the lead, and still find a way to lose the game. The same sound you heard from the Chiefs today (that hissing noise as if air being released from a balloon) was eerily similar to what we are all well-accustomed to hearing.

We're the ones usually moaning about how we let one get away. Haley has his team playing pretty good ball overall, but they couldn't seal the deal. The pressure was too great. The pinhole in the balloon widened and all the air went out of it.

But us? We know we can do it and keep the thing aired up until the end. The biggest problem is that we're doing it against teams who crumble under the pressure. When we face a team who has its back against the wall, we revert back to the old "can't win for losing" attitude. Our guys take a proverbial vacation that week, somehow choosing to not really try on offense at all.

Our defense, though, at least they are consistent. You know every week they are going to allow pockets of open field for a receiver to sit down in and catch a 13-yard pass on 3rd and 11. Every week, they're going to let teams waltz down the field at will and eat up clock while doing it. At least we know who they are.

Our offense is erratic, and OBVIOUSLY inferior without Andre Johnson at near full strength/full strength.

How's THAT for a summary of where we are right now? I think that's accurate.

 

[Porky]

Kubes and Rick Smith need to go. This carriage is about to turn into a pumpkin, and whomever said all the talent is on offense may be right, but that is not faint praise of this braintrust because just about every #1 choice in the draft in the Kubiak era has been on defense, and most of the other high picks as well.

If they aren't performing up to snuff, they have nobody to blame but themselves, and at some point they have to own up to the failures. They could have hired a decent DC. Instead they took the easy road with Frank Bush. They could have kept Dunta and/or Reeves. They could have made appropriate trades. They could have drafted just ONE freaking safety with range who could potentially help with this kiddie corner group.

They did none of that. This all comes back on RS and GK, and it's time for a change to someone that understands the value of a good safety in this day and age, and can actually draft one. Two regimes = no decent safety in 8 years. I'm still waiting.

 

[Ckw]

For the record, I am against firing Kubiak in the middle of the season ESPECIALLY considering we are sitting at 4-2. But when I look into my crystal ball, I am concerned about the next 10 games considering how we have played in the first 6 and how porous our defense has looked.

 

[thunderkyss]

For the record, I am against firing Kubiak in the middle of the season ESPECIALLY considering we are sitting at 4-2. But when I look into my crystal ball, I am concerned about the next 10 games considering how we have played in the first 6 and how porous our defense has looked.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I doubt there is a sunshiner anywhere who isn't concerned about our defense. Some of us (raises hand) are concerned about our offense as well.

But I'm not going to say it's about Wins & Losses one year & then tell you it's about consistency the next.

I also won't insult this team & say they don't want to win, or that they have no "fire" when they get beat from time to time like every other team.

 

[steelbtexan]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I doubt there is a sunshiner anywhere who isn't concerned about our defense. Some of us (raises hand) are concerned about our offense as well.

But I'm not going to say it's about Wins & Losses one year & then tell you it's about consistency the next.

I also won't insult this team & say they don't want to win, or that they have no "fire" when they get beat from time to time like every other team.

Agreed

Lets see how the rest of the season plays out. It's impossible to fully get behind team schitzophrenia.

But if they dont make the playoffs it's time for the pink soap.

 

[Ckw]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I doubt there is a sunshiner anywhere who isn't concerned about our defense. Some of us (raises hand) are concerned about our offense as well.

But I'm not going to say it's about Wins & Losses one year & then tell you it's about consistency the next.

I also won't insult this team & say they don't want to win, or that they have no "fire" when they get beat from time to time like every other team.

I think you guys misunderstand the "Fire Kubiak Club." Sure, it is about wins and losses. But it is also about HOW you play the game and get those wins. Last year even though we had our first winning record in franchise history, we did not play the game how we needed to play the game, and that is why we did not make the playoffs.

Also, as another poster said, the wins and losses argument is incomplete. We haven't even completed the season. Some of us invision what the future will be like if we continue to play the way we have been playing in the past and present. It is not a pretty sight.

Finally, at the end of the day, the "Fire Kubiak Club" cares about one thing: playoffs. Some have used the term results but our interpretation of results needs to be clarified. We don't care about 4-2. Sure it is nice, but 4-2 could EASILY, with this schedule, turn into 6-10. We want playoffs, and we want to be shown a sign that this team can compete in the playoffs. If we get blown out by every big time team we face, sure we got to the playoffs but still can't compete in the playoffs. That is what we are after.

 

[awtysst]

I've seen coaches get fired even after taking their teams to the play-offs.

I'm not saying Kubiak should be fired (yet), but I do not think that he has done a great job this season...despite his W/L record...

See, it works both ways....

A coach can be doing a better job than his record indicates, or he can be doing a worse job than his record indicates...

I'd actually like to Kubiak, just present a team that comes out and plays good football from all aspects in one of the wins we've had...Or hell...even one of the losses...Doesn't matter...

"How" this team has been playing is poorly for the most part. I'm very happy we got the win today,but c'mon...You'd really have to be sticking your head in the sand to ignore the many shortcomings we have...especially defensively...

I actually think the offense is fine, but I doubt we are going to be able to win shootouts every week...

Can you give examples? It would be interesting to see how the team fared in subsequent years.

 

[JB]

Can you give examples? It would be interesting to see how the team fared in subsequent years.

Marty S. comes to mind. He got fired after the Chargers went 14-2 and to the AFC championship game iirc.

Bum Phillips was also fired after going to the wild card game.

 

[Double Barrel]

Dom had five seasons here is only fair Gary has the same amount of time. Injuries or not the good teams find ways to overcome those.

Capers was here for four seasons. 4-12, 5-11, 7-9, 2-14.

This is Kubiak's fifth season as HC.

I said it before the season started and I'm sticking to it: I reserve judgment on Kubiak until the season is over.

While I certainly understand the frustration in this thread about the inconsistent football that we are witnessing, I'm not going to lie, 4-2 feels great!!!

The Texans snatched victory from the jaws of defeat yesterday, and like most every other Texans fan, I thought we were going to lose for 59 minutes and 32 seconds. But man, you've got to give credit where it's due, and both the players and coaches showed us something that this franchise is not known for: resilience.

Who knows what the future holds, but I do know that we - as fans - should sit back, take a breather on the bye-week, and just enjoy 4-2 right now.

 

[Second Honeymoon]

4-2 is nice. Unchartered waters and porous defense or not, it feels good

 

[BigBull17]

4-2 is nice. Unchartered waters and porous defense or not, it feels good

This. It is amazing that people have said for years that all they want to do is win, no more excuses. Now they win, and people want flawless games. It's a w, 4-2 at the bye. 3-0 vs AFC, 1-0vs AFC South, can't complain too much. We have a glaring hole, but thats what the bye is for.

 

[Goldensilence]

This. It is amazing that people have said for years that all they want to do is win, no more excuses. Now they win, and people want flawless games. It's a w, 4-2 at the bye. 3-0 vs AFC, 1-0vs AFC South, can't complain too much. We have a glaring hole, but thats what the bye is for.

Truth is I think everyone is happy about being 4-2 going into the bye.

I think what everyone is more critical about is what's ahead.

The best example I can give is student on spring semester. Sure they have an 80 or 81 despite not showing up for classes several times, have turned in assignments late or just by the hair of their skin, getting by with some luck and intelligence. They've got spring break ahead and they can use that time wisely to fix some of their problems or not use it wisely. Midterms are looming as well aas the most difficult part of the semester. They obviously aren't going to pass if they keep doing what they are doing.

Let's hope the team uses this bye week well and gets some help moving forward. If not the doom and gloom predictions mitt not be too far fetched.

 

[SheTexan]

What reallly eerks me is that DALLASS is 1-4 with you know who being their one and only win!! That's like rubbing salt in a wound!!! I know, has nothing to do with the Kubiak saga, just had to say it anyway.

 

[ChampionTexan]

Can you give examples? It would be interesting to see how the team fared in subsequent years.

After the '86 season, John Mackovic was fired by the Chiefs after taking them to the playoffs for the first time in 15 years. It was Mackovic's 4th year, and they made the playoffs with a 10-6 record, primarily on the back of some pretty incredible special teams play. In the three previous seasons, Mackovic's records were 6-10, 8-8, 6-10. After the season, a number of the players (led by Nick Lowery their place kicker) went to Lamar Hunt and demanded that Mackovic be fired and replaced by Frank Gansz - the special teams coach/Asst. HC. Hunt agreed and did it.

Gansz coached two years for the Chiefs, and compiled an 8-22-1 record. The Chiefs then hired Marty Schotteheimer who took them to the playoffs in 7 of the ten years he was there - starting with his second year in 1990.

 

[HTown2ATX]

He might mean "diversity." The myriad of ways the Texans get their
asses whooped at Reliant has been quite "diverse."

We're all about some Equal Opportunity here man!

 

[TexCanada]

The part I find frustrating about Kubiak and these Texans is that they constantly make me eat my words! Every time I feel confident they seem to struggle, and every time I get close to giving up on a game they seem to pull it together.

 

[Showtime100]

Can you give examples? It would be interesting to see how the team fared in subsequent years.

Marty S. comes to mind. He got fired after the Chargers went 14-2 and to the AFC championship game iirc.

Bum Phillips was also fired after going to the wild card game.

Cha-ching, JB. If memory serves the Chargers went back to the playoffs a couple of times right after that under Norv T. though with a less glamorous record. I know Houston went down the crapper after Phillips thanks in part to Ed "I'm too wimpy to make Dave Casper get a haircut" Biles.

 

[PockyAF]

From LZ's blog:

I think the scheme isn't terrific. One person I speak with who works for a team the Texans play told me that they were very easy to figure out on defense and that "nobody in the secondary worries you at all".

This is the coordinator that Kubiak is content with leading the defense. The secondary are a group of backs that Kubiak is content with having them on the field.

He's digging himself a grave for a funeral that no one is going to.

 

[HTown2ATX]

From LZ's blog:

"I think the scheme isn't terrific. One person I speak with who works for a team the Texans play told me that they were very easy to figure out on defense and that "nobody in the secondary worries you at all". "

This is the coordinator that Kubiak is content with leading the defense. The secondary are a group of backs that Kubiak is content with having them on the field.

He's digging himself a grave for a funeral that no one is going to.

Don't worry, per Kubes yesterday on trade deadline and addressing the secondary, we'll solve it "in house".

:wadepalm:

 

[thunderkyss]

He's digging himself a grave for a funeral that no one is going to.

Then let it be. There will be several people ecstatic that Kubiak is gone.

But we're 4-2 & the defense played it's role in 4 of those wins, just like they did in the two losses.

We shut the Redskins down (more or less) in the second half. Got our offense the ball back in overtime.

We stopped Kansas City on their last two possessions to seal the comeback victory.

And against Dallas & NYGiants, I don't know how many times we put the ball in the offenses hands to see them go 3 & out.

 

[Texan_Bill]

I'd just like to know why you've done such a good job keeping up with this thread but have failed to answer my questions both times I have asked them.

Sure, get drunk celebrating the win. Party hard. Enjoy it. Am I happy we won? Hell yes. But am I happy the WAY we have been winning? Hell no. We have had ONE big time win. Kubiak has been consistently outcoached. Our defense has been abysmal. Our recent draft picks, Cushing off roids may eventually need to be included, have been failures up to this point (please note I am not saying they will NEVER be good or even great players).

I just have to know, do you think Kubiak is the answer? Forget all the posts by the people you refer to as "jokes." Just answer the ****ing question if you are going to bash everyone on here for expressing a viewpoint that is different than yours. Do you think Kubiak can or will be the guy to take us to the promised land? Do you think our defense has played up to par under Kubiak in his ENTIRE time coaching here? Have we really played the way you would like?

If the answer to all of those questions is yes, then continue your bashing. We are all Texans fans, and we all want what is best for this franchise. Some of us are just tired of believing this team has "turned the corner", but then continue to be let down by the teams poor play.

Just remember dude, we are all rooting for the same franchise. We are all happy that we are sitting at 4-2. We all want the best for this team. Some of us just see things that bother us, see big mistakes that bother us, and see an inconsistent team that can't seem to play two good halves and believe heads need to roll because of it.

That's my point, right there in bold!!! Some people aren't happy unless they're miserable. The defense sucks!! Gary Kubiak sucks!! Andre Johnson, well nevermind there!!! The cheerleaders suck and not in the good way. It matters not!! Because a win is a win is a win... Unless you're Texan fan, then it's a win is a whine is a whine!!!

What? I don't know our defense sucks? I've been preaching defense since the days of Sharper, Glenn, Coleman, Payne and Gary Walker!!! I can admit that.

Some people ***** to hear themselves ***** or at least wanna make themselves out to be some self-professed genius. These are the same people that tell you stats are for losers, but when those stats are negative, they are the first ones to bring it up..


The only stats that matter are:
4-2
#1 in the AFC South.

Thank G*D I'm going to Ren Fest this weekend!! I need a weekend away from the geniuses around here.

 

[HOU-TEX]

Don't worry, per Kubes yesterday on trade deadline and addressing the secondary, we'll solve it "in house".

Ex-Boilermaker Rick Smith is our answer

 

[BigBull17]

Don't worry, per Kubes yesterday on trade deadline and addressing the secondary, we'll solve it "in house".

:wadepalm:

He said he would look at making a trade, but wanted to also find a solution in house since trades don't happen very often.

 

[infantrycak]

Some people ***** to hear themselves ***** or at least wanna make themselves out to be some self-professed genius. These are the same people that tell you stats are for losers, but when those stats are negative, they are the first ones to bring it up..


The only stats that matter are:
4-2
#1 in the AFC South.

This is the frustrating hypocrisy. Of course analyzing the team is the main purpose of this MB but many of the naysayers last year called any attempt to analyze and see improvement drinking koolaid, being a homer, making excuses because all that mattered was the record. Now the record doesn't count.

 

[HTown2ATX]

This is the frustrating hypocrisy. Of course analyzing the team is the main purpose of this MB but many of the naysayers last year called any attempt to analyze and see improvement drinking koolaid, being a homer, making excuses because all that mattered was the record. Now the record doesn't count.

Chris Carter says; C'MON MAN!

Of course the record counts. But this defense is horrible. Last year I could see the improvements even in the FAIL games. So why can't some see the FAIL even in some of these wins.

I am thrilled the Texans are 4-2, leading the division, curing cancer, kissing babies and all that jazz. Seriously, thrilled! It has been so long since I have been this pumped about the team, BUT, that is tempered by the reality of this horrible, briquette defense. Schedule says that we are in for some losses asap if that D is not turned around.

 

[infantrycak]

Of course the record counts. But this defense is horrible. Last year I could see the improvements even in the FAIL games. So why can't some see the FAIL even in some of these wins.

I don't see people claiming the D is just hunky dory.

 

[thunderkyss]

Chris Carter says; C'MON MAN!

Of course the record counts. But this defense is horrible. Last year I could see the improvements even in the FAIL games. So why can't some see the FAIL even in some of these wins.

First, we gotta stop giving Chris Carter credit for "C'mon Man!!" That's Keyshawn's thing.

Second, we all see what's going on on defense. We all know we don't stand a chance going forward without some major improvements to play on the defensive side of the ball. We just believe that Kubiak sees the issues as well, and is doing everything he can to get it fixed. Others don't believe he is capable of getting it fixed, & are already calling for someone to get fired, even though we are 4-2.

I am thrilled the Texans are 4-2, leading the division, curing cancer, kissing babies and all that jazz. Seriously, thrilled! It has been so long since I have been this pumped about the team, BUT, that is tempered by the reality of this horrible, briquette defense. Schedule says that we are in for some losses asap if that D is not turned around.

When we temper it with reality, I think it is important to understand we don't know what's going to happen next Sunday, much less 10 Sunday's from now. To say we can't beat the Jets is absurd. They ran across issues same as we did last year, if it weren't for the help of Curtis Painter & several injured Bengals, their season would have turned out a lot different.

Same with Baltimore, They're looking good right now, pretty strong. But they found a way to lose 7 games last year, same as us. We know what our problems are, we're going through them right now. What are Baltimore's issues? If they haven't gone through them yet, they will. Every team does.

& we (at least I do) have no doubt we'll be playing good football on both sides of the ball soon.

So to temper reality..... the team you saw the last six weeks won't be the team playing in Indy Monday night. I can guarantee you that. Will that team be better or worse than this team, I don't know. But I tend to believe it will be better.

 

[Kaiser Toro]

I don't see people claiming the D is just hunky dory.

I do. Not to mention names, but the member's name rhymes with schmunderkyss.

 

[infantrycak]

I do. Not to mention names, but the member's name rhymes with schmunderkyss.

What I thought he said was as bad as they have been they have made some key stops letting us get to 4-2 and he expects them to get better. But anywhoo...