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The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK & REPLACEMENT thread
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HJam72
Hall of Fame
Yea, start ANOTHER FIRE BUSH thread immediately!! Our d sucks because he is BLACK!!Geeeeezzzz!! I have bronchitis, need a hot tottie and a good movie! Chat with all you "racist" later!!!
Meh, she must be black too.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
YUP!! The lines at the escalator are way too long. I'm getting older and older and walking up the ramps is starting to kick my butt!
Know why I came to this thread? 'Cuz I heard in another thread that this is where everybody's fighting rampantly.
Problem is I don't know whether to say "Fire Kubiak!" or "Keep him" to piss people off.
Either way you can piss off a lot of people. If you want to get everyone, just say
"Fire Kubiak" and "Promote Bush" and "Bring back Casserly". That ought to do it.
drs23
Veteran
Know why I came to this thread? 'Cuz I heard in another thread that this is where everybody's fighting rampantly.
Problem is I don't know whether to say "Fire Kubiak!" or "Keep him" to piss people off.
I'm pretty sure if you go one way or the other, you've got your bases covered
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Prior to the season, there were some guys who said that the W/L record was the only stat that mattered and Kubes should be fired because of his W/L record.
We're 4-2.
Now some of those same guys are saying that the W/L doesn't matter because of what our W/L record will be in the future because of how bad our defense is. Well, that's the future.
This team has shown that it's got the guts to keep fighting and scratching and clawing for 60 minutes until they pull out the win. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
But, come on, at least wait until we're out of the playoff picture before bringing this BS back up. We have to go 1-5 over the next 6 games to reach Dexman's dreaded 5-7. And we might just do that. We have to play some good teams. But don't try to be a fortune teller about it. Give the team a chance to decide for itself what its freaking record is goign to be.
We're 4-2.
Now some of those same guys are saying that the W/L doesn't matter because of what our W/L record will be in the future because of how bad our defense is. Well, that's the future.
This team has shown that it's got the guts to keep fighting and scratching and clawing for 60 minutes until they pull out the win. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
But, come on, at least wait until we're out of the playoff picture before bringing this BS back up. We have to go 1-5 over the next 6 games to reach Dexman's dreaded 5-7. And we might just do that. We have to play some good teams. But don't try to be a fortune teller about it. Give the team a chance to decide for itself what its freaking record is goign to be.
You know, I don't even mind the fortune tellers. Their opinions are just as valid as mine.
But the way they want to treat the situation, as if Kubiak has already failed, as if this team has already missed the play-offs, as if we've already lost 7 games.
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Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
Casserly always favored D players.
Like Reggie Bush?
DexmanC
Hall of Fame
He did help draft the only HoF player in Texans history...hehe
He was part of the '06 draft, which sent 3 players to the ProBowl (two named All Pro.)
There were just as many people who claimed that the won/loss record was a poor measure of a team. The "look and feel" evaluation of the game (by hometown fans, no less) was the most important indicator of a team's ranking in the NFL. Those people are also part of the 180 degree spin dance.
There is plenty of hypocrisy to go around.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
All i have to say is be careful what you wish for. For years aggie fans wanted slocum gone & they eventually got their wish. 2 head coaches later, It appears they still are in need of 1 & haven't been relevant on the college football scene for a minute.
I'm fine with either way Mcnair decides to go b/c on 1 hand, kubes has at least brought us to relevance, but on the other, he has had more than enough time to get us over the hump & hasn't been able to do it to date.
I'm fine with either way Mcnair decides to go b/c on 1 hand, kubes has at least brought us to relevance, but on the other, he has had more than enough time to get us over the hump & hasn't been able to do it to date.
DexmanC
Hall of Fame
Slocum finished 9-2 dang-near every year.
Kubiak has never had a two-loss season.
Nice try, but no comparison. Kubiak is "Wayne Fontes."
You gonna argue the Lions miss HIM?
stingray
Hall of Fame
Hmmm...
He pretty much went .500 during his tenure. 8-8 or 2-14? I would probably say that they do.
drewmar74
disgruntled
Absolutely not. I pointed to the stats many times last year, not saying it was more important that the W-L, but a measuring stick that can be used to measure the progress (or in this years case the lack) of the team.
You can also use them to compare one team to another (which is what they are used for most of all).
Last years stats showed me that we were playing good football in all three aspects of the game. But we were losing. Losing because of on the field player mistakes. That pointed to a maturity issue to me (unlike the Dallas Cowboys who are penalizing themselves out of wins (discipline)).
This year, we aren't playing very well at all in any phase of the game (the offensive stats look great (but if you were to take into account that we start slow & get those stats in the second half (4th Qtr) it points to very real problems), but we are winning.... which points to the maturity issue (if you ask me) being fixed (at least for now).
English must not be your native language. It's like you don't read the whole post before you reply.
He wasn't comparing Kubiak to Slocum. Slocum (or rather the firing of Slocum) was used to illustrate a point.
He started his post with the words, "Be careful what you wish for..."
Not, "Kubiak is like Slocum..." or "Kubiak reminds me of Slocum..." or even, "Kubiak has been as successful as Slocum..."
DexmanC
Hall of Fame
Yeah, yeah. I get what you're sayin', but I just couldn't let it slide.
The phrase "be careful what you wish for..." is paired with "something else"
a lot of people are "wishing for." The mind wanders into a logical direction...
"Be careful what you wish for" + "Inclusion of the name 'Kubiak" +
"Inclusion of the name 'Slocum'" = "Logical conclusion of 'Firing Kubiak'
is analogous in its consequences to 'Firing Slocum'"
So, after doing the math, one can clearly see I was attacking the logic
of his post, by cutting to the chase. Kubiak should not be
mentioned in the same sentence as Slocum, unless he is being referenced
as a member of R.C.'s staff.
¿Me entiendes?
Yeah, prior to Schwartz, I am sure they did.
Fontes went 67-71 over his tenure with the Lions
After he was let go, Bobby Ross went 27-32 and was fired midway through the 2000 season. Followed by Marty Mornhinweg who went 5-27 & Steve Mariucci whis his great 11-21.
It has been downhill from there.
So yeah, I think if you were to poll Lions fans, yeah, they missed Fontes.
And IIRC, they were really pissed when he got fired.
Goldensilence
hipster elite
I'm not so sure it was as much as Slocum getting dimissed that hurt as much as around the same time other programs picked up.
A&M used to be able to recruit well out of California and once USC was revived under Carroll the California, the pipeline Slocum enjoyed dried up. I believe around the same time as well that Saban went to LSU and Stoops landed at OU.
I was a little surprised with the Franchione era, but then again his time at 'Bama from what I recall didn't produce a whole lot. Looking at things now Patterson was with Fran every stop before deciding to stay at TCU. Fran then levels off and Patterson maintains a very successful program. Just a thought. I also thought it was shady the way he left Alabama though. Reminds me a bit of Kelly bolting for Notre Dame.
Far as Sherman goes, I know part of the draw was being a former Aggie and his NFL pedigree was supposed to lure kids to College Station to go to the NFL. So far he hasn't been successful at sending players to the NFL like he was supposed to. I thought they should've looked for a guy that was a known recruiting ace. Though the program's talent is light years ahead of what Franchione brought it and seems to have a better idea of how to utilize athletes.
My question is to someone familiar with the them is how much leash is he on considering they seemed poised to make noise in the Big 12 South.
Far as replacing Gary and being sorry with the results. A lot of that is going to have to do with really seeing the caliber of GM that Rick Smith can be and getting a known person as your HC.
Aside from the obvious wants for Cowher, whom I think is likely headed to Carolina, Gruden (whether I am a big fan or not) is out there and I wonder what it would take to lure a guy like Marty back to the sideline.
He hasn't been there long enough to send players to the NFL yet has he? When did he take over there? '07, '08?
I would feel great! Don't matter how, it's the results! If we sweep the colts, I am going to be estatic!
DexmanC
Hall of Fame
It's not gonna happen against the Colts, because if you are forced
to pass every down, their defense will kill you. Kubiak ALWAYS
abandons the run when the Texans get down by two or more scores,
and regrets it on the podium post-game.
The Texans beat the Colts on opening day, because the Texans had
the lead for all 60 minutes. The Colts have an ELITE pass defense,
the Texans don't.
Just when you thought you were out... they pull you back in.
Ok Mr Texans fan.... for your next reading lesson.
When a question begins with "if" you should respond to the following words as though they are true. You don't counter with a scenario that doesn't address the premise of the argument.
And you certainly don't interject your own "if" statement.. "because if you are forced to pass..."
It's selfish, self-centered, and arrogant.
Not prose.... not counter point... arrogant.
I dropped out during the offseason with the intention to keep my peace until the bye week. I see the same petty stuff being posted. Some stuff never changes.
As far as the Texans - quite the roller coaster this year. Not too much change. I think that goes on a different thread though.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
In case you haven't heard, the Texans have turned the corner.
Only to find another corner. I guess this was harder than they thought.
He didn't abandon the run down 14 to the 3rd best run d, why would he vs the Colts?
Again, it doesn't matter how it's done. The question is if we come back from a 21 point deficit to beat the Colts, how would you feel?
It was asked in response to this statement:
If we came back from 21 down to beat the COlts my head may explode. I was yoked Sunday, but to get the drop on the COlts would freakin rock.
GlassHalfFull
Hall of Fame
I hate this thread and I hate that it keeps making the front page. I keep thinking that visiting fans must get such a great impression of Texans fans by reading this thread.
Sigh. and now I have contributed to the mess. :justshootme:
Sigh. and now I have contributed to the mess. :justshootme:
I gotcha..
But I wonder how it must feel for Colts fans, to spot us 21 points, then have them come back to win. I'm sure even Week 1, they felt we would shoot ourselves in the foot, & lose the game.
I'm glad that didn't happen.
I'm also perfectly satisfied with getting an early lead, & holding on to it.
But a W is a W...... especially against the Colts.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Huh?? I love this thread!!
Like a severe case of crotch rot
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
eriadoc
Texan-American
LOL, thanks for the bump.
I've grown quite fond of this thread. It's the new "Carr Wars" thread.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Sorry to bump the thread, but I did not know where else to put this article. I figured it would eventually be merged with it, so might as well.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2007/dec/11/kubiak-has-stayed-true-to-his-roots/
Anyways, does anyone remember when Kubiak was in his first year, I think, the Texans were were in the close game until the end, and before the offense or defense went onto the field, Kubiak pulled the team aside and gave them a talk? I remember the announcer at the time commending Kubiak for it and saying thats what the young team needed. I want to say it was the Colts, but the picture makes it seem it was the Browns. It has been something that has stuck with me. I just thought yall might remember when and what game.
Yall can commence with the
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2007/dec/11/kubiak-has-stayed-true-to-his-roots/
Anyways, does anyone remember when Kubiak was in his first year, I think, the Texans were were in the close game until the end, and before the offense or defense went onto the field, Kubiak pulled the team aside and gave them a talk? I remember the announcer at the time commending Kubiak for it and saying thats what the young team needed. I want to say it was the Colts, but the picture makes it seem it was the Browns. It has been something that has stuck with me. I just thought yall might remember when and what game.
Yall can commence with the
Sorry to bump the thread, but I did not know where else to put this article. I figured it would eventually be merged with it, so might as well.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2007/dec/11/kubiak-has-stayed-true-to-his-roots/
Anyways, does anyone remember when Kubiak was in his first year, I think, the Texans were were in the close game until the end, and before the offense or defense went onto the field, Kubiak pulled the team aside and gave them a talk? I remember the announcer at the time commending Kubiak for it and saying thats what the young team needed. I want to say it was the Colts, but the picture makes it seem it was the Browns. It has been something that has stuck with me. I just thought yall might remember when and what game.
Yall can commence with the
I was hoping this would slip quietly through the night and be gone from the front page by morning, but alas! You have been nailed by Joe Texan, so now the
must commence!
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
I say this:
FIRE JB, FIRE JB!!!!
FIRE JB, FIRE JB!!!!
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
I say this:
FIRE JB, FIRE JB!!!!
I will reserve judgement on that until I see first hand how angry he gets at press conferences (enough but not too much), and the size of his Denny's menu (it can't be so big that it makes me feel bad about myself).
I say this:
FIRE JB, FIRE JB!!!!
No one else would take my job.
I gotta mean lower jaw and can podium tap with the best of em. My menu is all computerized and disguised as a Penthouse mag.
Showtime100
Got JJ?
Sorry to bump the thread, but I did not know where else to put this article. I figured it would eventually be merged with it, so might as well.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2007/dec/11/kubiak-has-stayed-true-to-his-roots/
Anyways, does anyone remember when Kubiak was in his first year, I think, the Texans were were in the close game until the end, and before the offense or defense went onto the field, Kubiak pulled the team aside and gave them a talk? I remember the announcer at the time commending Kubiak for it and saying thats what the young team needed. I want to say it was the Colts, but the picture makes it seem it was the Browns. It has been something that has stuck with me. I just thought yall might remember when and what game.
Yall can commence with the
Please for give the offtopic question, but when did Rocky Mountain News come back? There was a big deal about it's demise. I guess they were just talking actual paper circulation(?).
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