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McNairs budget and the budget the fans want are totally different.

Even though the Texans are the 6th most profitable franchise in the NFL.

McNair is a hardliner who adheres to the bottom line.

They better have a great 2006 type draft or you will be saying 9 yrs and no playoffs.

The good news is that this is the deepest draft in years. The holes can be filled that way.
 
Dont worry about the cap in 2011. If there is a 2011 at all. Thanks Bob

You could front load the money in the 2010 season and be in great shape cap wise in 2012.

When NFL football returns from the lockout.

McNair has to be willing to shell out alot of upfront $. We know that aint happening.
 
steelbtexan said:
Dont worry about the cap in 2011. If there is a 2011 at all. Thanks Bob

You could front load the money in the 2010 season and be in great shape cap wise in 2012.

When NFL football returns from the lockout.

McNair has to be willing to shell out alot of upfront $. We know that aint happening.
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I was hoping to see some frontloaded contracts and try to make a big push toward the playoffs. Instead the big free agent signing is walters. Rolle wouldve solved alot of secondary problems with his ability to matchup with those Y-flex te's like dallas clark and such. Corey williams for a 5th wouldve given the texans that inside rush they have been missing. Before he went and played in the 3-4, he had 8 sacks from the dt position and now he's in detroit. Its like theyre happy being avg and standing pat. At least re-sign ryans and daniels or something.
 
I'm okay with us not going after the big free agents, I just hope we have a solid draft and fill our needs. We really need to upgrade our interior offensive line and add playmakers in our secondary, if we can do that then I'm cool with us not spending big.

But FA is not yet over and I suspect that we may make a trade with another team during or leading up to the draft so hold your horses everyone! :fingergun:
 
leebigeztx said:
I was hoping to see some frontloaded contracts and try to make a big push toward the playoffs. Instead the big free agent signing is walters. Rolle wouldve solved alot of secondary problems with his ability to matchup with those Y-flex te's like dallas clark and such. Corey williams for a 5th wouldve given the texans that inside rush they have been missing. Before he went and played in the 3-4, he had 8 sacks from the dt position and now he's in detroit. Its like theyre happy being avg and standing pat. At least re-sign ryans and daniels or something.
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Rolle would have solved some problems but not as the highest paid safety in the NFL.
 
leebigeztx said:
I was hoping to see some frontloaded contracts and try to make a big push toward the playoffs. Instead the big free agent signing is walters. Rolle wouldve solved alot of secondary problems with his ability to matchup with those Y-flex te's like dallas clark and such. Corey williams for a 5th wouldve given the texans that inside rush they have been missing. Before he went and played in the 3-4, he had 8 sacks from the dt position and now he's in detroit. Its like theyre happy being avg and standing pat. At least re-sign ryans and daniels or something.
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In an earlier thread, somebody said the Texans should go after Shaun Rogers from the Browns. I replied that the Texans should really go after Corey Williams. He would have been a great fit. Problem with trading for him is his current contract. Don't have the exact numbers but its around 5 mil this year. (sorry if this was discussed earlier, not gonna read 20 pages LOL).

I'll bet this weeks beer money that Shaun Rogers can still be had for a late 2nd or maybe even a 3rd. Browns seem to be in the mood to dump every contibutor left on the team.

!st pick next year for the Browns!!! whooo-hooo!!!!

You think the Texans have it bad----
 
Texans still in the hunt for Bodden

The Patriots, Texans and Steelers are all vying for free-agent CB Leigh Bodden, according to league sources.

Bodden, who might be the best corner remaining on the market, intercepted five passes for New England last season, and the Patriots have made a sustained push to retain him. The Texans also are deep in the discussions, viewing Bodden as a replacement for departed CB Dunta Robinson, who received a huge free-agent contract from the Falcons.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/03/06/bodden-receiving-interest-from-pats-texans-steelers/
 
I'd love to have Bodden here. He's one of the few free agents i'm lobbying for. He'd be cheaper than Dunta too.
 
Bodden would be an excellent addition and an improvement over Dunta. He would be a much needed playmaker at the CB position. One that we haven't had since Aaron Glenn and Dunta's rookie season.
 
i dunno about leigh bodden, im not that high on him. but ive been wrong before and i hope he comes here and proves me wrong... cmon leigh lol
 
hot pickle said:
i dunno about leigh bodden, im not that high on him. but ive been wrong before and i hope he comes here and proves me wrong... cmon leigh lol
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Do you think we'd be worse off at the position with Bodden or Dunta?

I know I would prefer to have Bodden THIS YEAR over any rookie CB as our # 1 CB. I think I'd prefer Haden or Wilson over Dunta.
 
TheRealJoker said:
Do you think we'd be worse off at the position with Bodden or Dunta?

I know I would prefer to have Bodden THIS YEAR over any rookie CB as our # 1 CB. I think I'd prefer Haden or Wilson over Dunta.
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to be honest i think id rather have dunta. but ill take bodden over a rookie. unless its kyle wilson.
 
Whoa wait, we can still get a compensatory pic for Dunta? I thought that only happens if we tender/franchise/or offer him some sort of contract. Thats pretty awesome if we do get a pick
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Texans still in the hunt for Bodden

The Patriots, Texans and Steelers are all vying for free-agent CB Leigh Bodden, according to league sources.

Bodden, who might be the best corner remaining on the market, intercepted five passes for New England last season, and the Patriots have made a sustained push to retain him. The Texans also are deep in the discussions, viewing Bodden as a replacement for departed CB Dunta Robinson, who received a huge free-agent contract from the Falcons.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/03/06/bodden-receiving-interest-from-pats-texans-steelers/
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This is exactly what I just heard from NFLN.
 
hot pickle said:
to be honest i think id rather have dunta. but ill take bodden over a rookie. unless its kyle wilson.
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I don't agree with this. Bodden has had 10+ passes defensed for the last 5 years. And has had 12 INTs over the past 3. that's one less than dunta has had over his entire career. Not to mention Dunta's only gone over 10 passes defensed twice. In his rookie year, and then again in 2006.

But I'll agree that Kyle Wilson would be a fantastic pick for us.
 
The Cush said:
Whoa wait, we can still get a compensatory pic for Dunta? I thought that only happens if we tender/franchise/or offer him some sort of contract. Thats pretty awesome if we do get a pick
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This was discussed in the Dunta thread, but to sum up, there are several facctors determining compensatory picks. Compensatory picks are those awarded by the league (not the team signing the FA) at the ends of rounds 3-7. The pick would be in 2011, not this year. A new CBA could change things around a lot, or negate picks this year or something. The pick we get would depend on which of our players were signed away, which players we signed, and the values of those players.

If things work next year like they have been, and if we didn't sign any new FAs ourselves (re-signing our own players doesn't hurt, so we could sign Pitts), then we would probably be awarded a pretty high (probably 3rd round) draft pick next year. But, if we sign players ourselves, that will significantly reduce any compensatory pick.
 
McClain is adament that the Texans inquired about Bodden but that they aren't interested in the price range he's asking. He's expected to draw a contract near Dunta's and the Texans aren't interested in that price range. McClain's thinking is that if they wanted to pay that kind of money for a CB they would have kept Robinson. What he's missing though is that it's possible that Bodden could play better than Robinson did. However, having said that, I think it still stands true that they Texans aren't interested in spending that kind of money on a player of Bodden (or Robinson's) calibur.

I'm way more interested in us signing Wade Smith. He can play every position on the OLine.
 
barrett said:
McClain is adament that the Texans inquired about Bodden but that they aren't interested in the price range he's asking. He's expected to draw a contract near Dunta's and the Texans aren't interested in that price range. McClain's thinking is that if they wanted to pay that kind of money for a CB they would have kept Robinson. What he's missing though is that it's possible that Bodden could play better than Robinson did. However, having said that, I think it still stands true that they Texans aren't interested in spending that kind of money on a player of Bodden (or Robinson's) calibur.

I'm way more interested in us signing Wade Smith. He can play every position on the OLine.
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mcClain has it in his mind the Bodden is basically a journeyman, when at least year he was clearly better than Robinson although Dunta has a btter overall career and more "upside." Just from the things that I have read around, Bodden seems to need to be in the right system.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
wrong icak. they have lost 2 starters from last years roster however you cut it. studdard was a replacement for Pitts the 'starter'.

i appreciate your candor in stating that you would like to get Pitts back, because so would I, but trying to act like he isn't a starter is revisionist. Could they lure him back? sure, and the longer the Texans go without addressing the Guard position in Free Agency and the longer Pitts goes unsigned, the better the chance.

As of now they have lost 2 starters. As of yesterday they had lost 3 starters. They managed to lure one back onto the team and they get kudos for that, but I am not going to act like Pitts isn't a starter. Even Kubiak himself spoke about getting Pitts back as their starter in his post season presser. That was why I was so taken aback when they let him test the UFA waters. Yes, Dunta they chose to get rid of but he was the best corner in this market and was obviously worth enough for a playoff contending team, Atlanta, to break open the bank for him. It is obvious that Dunta burned his bridges here but he was a starter and our best corner at the end of the day.

they had lost 3 starters. they got one back. now they have lost 2 starters. could they get Pitts back and make it where they only end up losing 1 starter? Sure and I hope that is the case but to act like we haven't lost anything is a disservice to the years and quality play that Dunta and Pitts put in here. It's your right, but I think its kinda narrow minded.
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Hopefully they can get Pitts back at a cheaper rate if he doesn't find a lot of suitors. I don't think there's anyone else available that would be an upgrade, but bringing in depth can't hurt.
 
ATXtexanfan said:
PFT saying boddin coming for a visit also
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/07/bodden-will-meet-with-texans/

Bodden will meet with Texans

The second-best cornerback on the free agent market is ready to take a visit.

After some back-and-forth on the issue, Leigh Bodden's first free agent visit will be with the Texans, according to John McClain of the Houston Chronicle. It looked previously that Bodden's price tag may be too high for the Texans' taste.

Perhaps Bodden's financial demands are going down. After speaking with Bodden's agent Alvin Keels, the Texans decided to bring him in. The Patriots are pushing to bring Bodden back, while the Steelers and Seahawks have reportedly shown some interest.

ESPNBoston's Mike Reiss writes Bodden could command money in the $4-$5 million per season range.
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Texan4Ever said:
Does anyone know what kind of scheme Leigh Bodden plays in? Is he a fit for the Texans or no?
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The Pats run mixed schemes, the things that I have seen in the last couple of days suggest that he is best at press man coverage and should not be used in pure zone scheme.
 
Picking up in the Wade Smith thread, I heard about Casey Wiegmann being released from the Broncos and some wanting to sign him here...

I say yes due to the following....

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His wife, Danni Boatwright! Hubba Hubba!
 
pbat488 said:
Picking up in the Wade Smith thread, I heard about Casey Wiegmann being released from the Broncos and some wanting to sign him here...

I say yes due to the following....

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His wife, Danni Boatwright! Hubba Hubba!
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I don't know who this Wiegmann schmo is, but we need to get that woman to Houston.
 
Seriously though, Wiegmann would be a natural fit for our O-line needs right now. I think the odds are good that he'll end up in Houston.
 
I don't know about anyone else but it will scare me a bit if the Texans don't sign a veteran CB or trade for one. McClain/Bennett are good players but having them starting is a scary thought. We need that veteran CB in there to help out. Any other options we have?
 
Casey Wiegmann's going to be 37 entering this season. Considering what this team's been through with older FA's, I doubt he'll end up here. However, if he's still out there, possibly even after the draft, he might be worth bringing in for a vet minimum type deal.
 
Blazin' Toro said:
I don't know about anyone else but it will scare me a bit if the Texans don't sign a veteran CB or trade for one. McClain/Bennett are good players but having them starting is a scary thought. We need that veteran CB in there to help out. Any other options we have?
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Molden might come out of nowhere and surprise us. Not likely, but possible.

HOU-TEX said:
Casey Wiegmann's going to be 37 entering this season. Considering what this team's been through with older FA's, I doubt he'll end up here. However, if he's still out there, possibly even after the draft, he might be worth bringing in for a vet minimum type deal.
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You don't think he'd be an upgrade over Myers for just one year until we find another solution?
 
Brisco_County said:
You don't think he'd be an upgrade over Myers for just one year until we find another solution?
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Possibly, but it'd still just be a stop-gap either way. Like I said, I wouldn't be entirely opposed to him if it was for dirt cheap and we had the future long term C learning behind him.
 
HOU-TEX said:
Possibly, but it'd still just be a stop-gap either way. Like I said, I wouldn't be entirely opposed to him if it was for dirt cheap and we had the future long term C learning behind him.
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Well, there may not be room for him. Even if we don't draft an interior olineman, we are looking at 7 guys competing for 5 roster spots if Pitts is re-signed:

Myers
Studdard
Caldwell
Pitts
Briesel
Wade Smith
Chris White.

of those : White, Myers, Caldwell, and Wade Smith can all play center. So, I seriously doubt we'll see a guy in his mid 30's added to the mix.
 
dalemurphy said:
Well, there may not be room for him. Even if we don't draft an interior olineman, we are looking at 7 guys competing for 5 roster spots if Pitts is re-signed:

Myers
Studdard
Caldwell
Pitts
Briesel
Wade Smith
Chris White.

of those : White, Myers, Caldwell, and Wade Smith can all play center. So, I seriously doubt we'll see a guy in his mid 30's added to the mix.
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Good point. Of that list, I see Briesel and White going back to the practice squad.
 
Brisco_County said:
Good point. Of that list, I see Briesel and White going back to the practice squad.
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My guess is that White would be let go... and, Briesel could get PUP'd. Otherwise, they may try to enter the season with 6 G/C if everyone is healthy. The way it's shaping up, I think it's likely the Texans don't go OL until at least the 4th round... particularly if Pitts re-signs.
 
dalemurphy said:
Well, there may not be room for him. Even if we don't draft an interior olineman, we are looking at 7 guys competing for 5 roster spots if Pitts is re-signed:

Myers
Studdard
Caldwell
Pitts
Briesel
Wade Smith
Chris White.

of those : White, Myers, Caldwell, and Wade Smith can all play center. So, I seriously doubt we'll see a guy in his mid 30's added to the mix.
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Sign Wiegmann and draft Newhouse or Petrus. This will create intense competition in TC. That is always a good thing. Especially if it means the end of White,Studdard or Myers tenure with the team.

If it comes down to those 3 Myers is the keeper. IMHO
 
Has anyone brought up Gerard Warren who was cut by Oakland today... he played in Denver when Kubiak was there and would make DT much less of a need on draft day...someones gotta replace Zgonina right??
 
m5kwatts said:
Has anyone brought up Gerard Warren who was cut by Oakland today... he played in Denver when Kubiak was there and would make DT much less of a need on draft day...someones gotta replace Zgonina right??
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I think he is more of a NT than anything. I think he is a big guy that occupies rather than penetrates. I base that on his low number of tackles. Again, the Raiders D line was not great, so its hard to say.

Numbers wise: he was the #78 DT, so that that for what its worth.
 
awtysst said:
I think he is more of a NT than anything. I think he is a big guy that occupies rather than penetrates. I base that on his low number of tackles. Again, the Raiders D line was not great, so its hard to say.

Numbers wise: he was the #78 DT, so that that for what its worth.
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I'm not saying he's a star, just that I imagine they'll replace Zgonina, who played the same NT role just trying to tie up blockers to free up the LBs. He'd come cheap and it'd free us up even more in the draft.
 
m5kwatts said:
Has anyone brought up Gerard Warren who was cut by Oakland today... he played in Denver when Kubiak was there and would make DT much less of a need on draft day...someones gotta replace Zgonina right??
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I think the Texans should at least bring him in for a look. The guy has played for 2 of the worst teams in the NFL his entire career so a new home and a better outlook could do wonders for him. The Texans need the help at dt and like you said it would make dt less of a need on draft day.

On another note. I would take Matthews over Spiller come draft day. That is assuming the Texans would consider rb in the 1st with s, cb, dt and ol being such big needs also.
 
m5kwatts said:
I'm not saying he's a star, just that I imagine they'll replace Zgonina, who played the same NT role just trying to tie up blockers to free up the LBs. He'd come cheap and it'd free us up even more in the draft.
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See the thing is, what we really need is a DT that can shoot the gap, penetrate and cause problems in the backfield. Okoye was solid against the run but could not put any pressure on the QB. If we have him playing solidly against the run and then a DT next to him that is pushing forward and putting pressure on the QB, our DEs will have an easier job. If we get a NT that occupies blockers but cannot penetrate, the QB simply steps into the pocket to avoid our DEs and can complete a pass.
 
awtysst said:
See the thing is, what we really need is a DT that can shoot the gap, penetrate and cause problems in the backfield. Okoye was solid against the run but could not put any pressure on the QB. If we have him playing solidly against the run and then a DT next to him that is pushing forward and putting pressure on the QB, our DEs will have an easier job. If we get a NT that occupies blockers but cannot penetrate, the QB simply steps into the pocket to avoid our DEs and can complete a pass.
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I begto differ about OkOye being solid against the run. He consistantly failed to hold the point of attack.

He and Cody were about the same. AVERAGE and that's not what is expected out of a top 10 pick.
 
awtysst said:
See the thing is, what we really need is a DT that can shoot the gap, penetrate and cause problems in the backfield. Okoye was solid against the run but could not put any pressure on the QB. If we have him playing solidly against the run and then a DT next to him that is pushing forward and putting pressure on the QB, our DEs will have an easier job. If we get a NT that occupies blockers but cannot penetrate, the QB simply steps into the pocket to avoid our DEs and can complete a pass.
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So how about we sign Warren and draft Lamar Houston in the 2nd/3rd round? He's a penetrating 5 technique


steelbtexan said:
I begto differ about OkOye being solid against the run. He consistantly failed to hold the point of attack.

He and Cody were about the same. AVERAGE and that's not what is expected out of a top 10 pick.
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Okoye's play against the run improved a lot as the season went on...he did a much better job of locating the ball carrier and pushing the blocker towards the play rather than trying to get under the pads or go around them. Rewatch the Miami game if you can, he was collapsing the pocket into runs consistently in that one, probably his best game of the year. He even stayed on the field on 3rd downs and was in the backfield a lot. He disappeared a lot last year but down the stretch he (and Antonio Smith) really improved and made the defense what it was. In fact, those 2 probably had a better last 3 games than Mario.
 
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