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awtysst said:
Smith is a Starting caliber G(was #23 overall). So that is a solis potential starter. If we sign him, I can see him starting at LG next to Brown and Caldwell starting at RG next to Winston with Myers in the Middle.
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It's Hell when the middle of the sandwich tastes so much like *^#&.:chef:
 
Granted, it's an internet message board, and everyone has their right to post whatever they want. Let me just get that out of the way first.

Now then, I was part of the "Fire Kubiak" club, but didn't wear the soap after all the crap I took when me and Tex swapped avatars for a few days. Seems some folks don't know me unless the see The Sarge beside my post. In any case, screw all this crap.

The Texans are what they are, and also what you personally see that they are. And I see a team that has been slowly, VERY VERY slowly, improving. But improving none the less. I like my team, and now that Kubiak is here for a while, I'm going to support him and McNair both. I'm not normally one to take the high road on things, but to much negativity can push me in that direction, and that's whats happened here.

I'm putting on my rose colored glasses and drinking me some beer. :fans:
 
wagonhed said:
Just a thought:

Why aren't people paying more attention to what teams like the Colts, Patriots, and Steelers are doing and comparing that to the Texans, instead of looking all the mediocre or downright bad teams making the big splashes right now? Obviously fans want to see big, exciting signings at big, exciting positions, but personally I'd rather have the FO emulate the teams that consistently win. And in this case, that means playing the waiting game.
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well for one, if people stopped making excuses and rationalizations for a moment, you would know that playoff teams can't make any free agent moves outside of their roster until they lose a player. That being said, the Colts did re-sign their UFA Brackett (unlike us with Walter, Dunta, and Pitts) and the Patriots look to be the front runner for Boldin (they didn't make the 2nd Round of playoffs so they have less constraints)
 
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Texan_Bill said:
C'mon Thorn, join in on the fun... McNair is cheap. McNair sucks!! :blah: :blah: :blah: :gun:
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he is. ok, TB, are you happy with what the Texans have done so far. that being, losing 3 starters and not signing anyone to date?

just asking. no fan could be happy about that. just admit it. mcnair is cheap (as usual) and isn't committed to winning. he is committed to profiteering and making $500 million return on investment in 8 years.

but he needs more money and has a right to earn a profit.

just because you were wrong, isn't a reason to get all pissy. Mcnair is and always has been a cheap owner who nickel and dimes his way through offseasons and the only person he has actually paid big money to was David Carr, who sucked the big one. People were wrong about Carr and people are wrong about McNair. he is a cheap SOB.
 
HoustonSportsFan09 said:
Texans bringing in Wade Smith. Versatile O-linemen who can play G and C.


McClain_on_NFL Texans bringing n chiefs G Wade Smith, 8-year veteran, this weekend.
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He was a former offensive tackle forced inside due to lack of talent. He came into the league as an LT with Miami. He's not considered by most as more than of inside backup quality. And, btw, he has played all OL positions except for LG.
 
Shaft75 said:
8 years of football none the less. What did you have here before pal?
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we had playoff football, an owner that actually spent money on good players, and at least some semblance of a committment to winning.

Bud was a jerk with how he left town, but he at least acted like he wanted to win.

McNair just wants your $$ and we are more than happy to give it to him and he knows it. Looks like patience is running thin though at least amongst most fans. If you were listening to sports radio today or combing the boards, far more people are unhappy with FA than happy. we aren't even in the discussion on most players that could help us.

oh, and we didn't even go after a running back that would be the best on our roster for just $3million per year. that is a freaking joke.

oh and when we don't have football in 2011, you can blame Bob about that too. he is one of the hardline owners who want more $$...surprised? I sure as hell aint.

people act like McNair donated $750 million to Houston for football...he invested it and last time I checked the franchise is worth over 1.2 billion. I would hope almost $500 million would be enough to satisfy his greed....

...i was wrong. and when we don't have football in 2010, lets make sure Bob gets all the credit.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
He was a former offensive tackle forced inside due to lack of talent. He came into the league as an LT with Miami. He's not considered by most as more than of inside backup quality. And, btw, he has played all OL positions except for LG.
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Actually he was the #23 OG last year. He would certainly be a solid starter and a HUGE upgrade over Studdard. He is a better pass blocker than run blocker. He would be a solid unsexy signing.
 
Nawzer said:
I don't understand the hate coming from some guys. What did you expect us to do? The guys we are loosing are guys we who haven't performed well for us. Except for Kevin Walter, I'm not overly upset that we let Dunta and Chester Pitts go. And KW might still sign with us. Our main goal right now should be to sign OD, DeMeco, Pollard to new deals. It's the first day in free agency and the teams making the big splash are teams that are bad. Look at the Lions and Bears, two teams that were bad last year and they need to make big signings to appease their fan base and save jobs. The Texans will sign some guys, but just give it some time.
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are you effing kidding me? we need to just tender them and use the money we saved from KW, CP, and DR and get some people to improve the team.

sign Ryans, Walter, and Pollard next year or the year after that cause there will probably not be football in 2011...thank Bob the profiteering SOB for that.
 
Pantherstang84 said:
No fair bringing clear thought and logic onto a message board. You should know better.:firehair:
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translation: other teams suck too and run poorly too...its not just the Texans.

The Browns, Lions, and Saints suck too....oh wait, the Saints spent money to improve their team and what do you freaking know. They won the Super Bowl.
 
Pollardized said:
Let's not forget that longhorn football produced these 2 assclowns:

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so Studdard is an assclown? great. just another hater.

let me guess. GED?
 
Texan_Bill said:
No. I know the man's made mistakes but to call the guy cheap is asinine. I also know that without him it would be 15 years now with NO football, which also means no tailgating, which also means no passion for the NFL, which ultimately means boring ass Sundays.
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so its ok to bring football back even if its mediocre and poorly run with no vision or goal to win championships.

8 years and counting...no playoffs. that sucks no matter how you spell it.

at least you admit that the guy has run the franchise poorly at times.
 
I pretty much hate a good portion of our fanbase after the most successful Texans season ever. Some of these posts are just a comedy of errors.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
are you effing kidding me? we need to just tender them and use the money we saved from KW, CP, and DR and get some people to improve the team.

sign Ryans, Walter, and Pollard next year or the year after that cause there will probably not be football in 2011...thank Bob the profiteering SOB for that.
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No we definitely need to sign Ryans and Pollard to extensions this year because they will be UFA's next year if we don't.
 
Texan_Bill said:
:lol:

Don't forget us!

Signed,

the Patriots.
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who made runs at Peppers and look to be players in Boldin sweepstakes...but whatever.

Bob is a cheap owner that doesn't try and put a championship product on the field.

He learned his craft from another cheap owner Drayton.

but at least we have Sheriff Blaylock Nachos.
 
WolverineFan said:
No we definitely need to sign Ryans and Pollard to extensions this year because they will be UFA's next year if we don't.
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no, you give them RFA tenders like the rest of the league does with their RFAs. i might add that there is no rush to sign them especially when 2011 season looks like it wont even happen.

i will give you credit for not saying to sign OD coming off a major injury. i think the prudent thing would be to just let them test the market next year or try and sign them during next year if their play continues to be decent.

Remember that we can tender them next year as well as they need 6 years to be UFA and we could even franchise one if we wanted to make them somewhat happy. we hold the cards. haven't we learned about trying to be too nice to our players with the way we handled Carr and the way we gave Kubiak an extension for a .500 record?

you play hardball with your players when you have the ace in the hole. that is the way you do business. class of 2006 got screwed, not by the Texans but by the owners and the CBA that the NFLPA agreed to.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
who made runs at Peppers and look to be players in Boldin sweepstakes...but whatever.

Bob is a cheap owner that doesn't try and put a championship product on the field.

He learned his craft from another cheap owner Drayton.

but at least we have Sheriff Blaylock Nachos.
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Boldin is a already a Raven.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
no, you give them RFA tenders like the rest of the league does with their RFAs. i might add that there is no rush to sign them especially when 2011 season looks like it wont even happen.

i will give you credit for not saying to sign OD coming off a major injury. i think the prudent thing would be to just let them test the market next year or try and sign them during next year if their play continues to be decent.

Remember that we can tender them next year as well as they need 6 years to be UFA and we could even franchise one if we wanted to make them somewhat happy. we hold the cards. haven't we learned about trying to be too nice to our players with the way we handled Carr and the way we gave Kubiak an extension for a .500 record?

you play hardball with your players when you have the ace in the hole. that is the way you do business. class of 2006 got screwed, not by the Texans but by the owners and the CBA that the NFLPA agreed to.
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Forgot about the 6 year rule. Damn CBA situation is screwing me up.
 
Btw I would rather have Caldwell at Center and Chris White at Guard. White played so much better than Myers last year. Myers needs to go.
 
WolverineFan said:
Forgot about the 6 year rule. Damn CBA situation is screwing me up.
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didn't hear about Boldin to Ravens. That was a trade though so they could do it even though they made Divisional Playoff round.

Patriots will get someone good. That was an embarassing loss to the Ravens in front of a bunch of angry chowds. They also did retain their OG so we couldn't thieve him from them. That in itself is a good move for them. We are already down 3 starters.
 
awtysst said:
Actually he was the #23 OG last year. He would certainly be a solid starter and a HUGE upgrade over Studdard. He is a better pass blocker than run blocker. He would be a solid unsexy signing.
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It's somewhat difficult to get too excited about him when the Chief's OL was ranked 27th in the NFL last year.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
didn't hear about Boldin to Ravens. That was a trade though so they could do it even though they made Divisional Playoff round.

Patriots will get someone good. That was an embarassing loss to the Ravens in front of a bunch of angry chowds.
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It literally just happened not too long ago. I think it was Boldin and a 5th to the Ravens for a 3rd and a 4th.
 
WolverineFan said:
It literally just happened not too long ago. I think it was Boldin and a 5th to the Ravens for a 3rd and a 4th.
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they really needed a WR something fierce...and they addressed the need. kudos to them but they have probably the best GM in the business in Newsome.

we need a RB, C, CB, FS, and DT. Nothing yet. Bueller? Bueller?
 
The Sheriff has your number


Second Honeymoon said:
who made runs at Peppers and look to be players in Boldin sweepstakes...but whatever.

Bob is a cheap owner that doesn't try and put a championship product on the field.

He learned his craft from another cheap owner Drayton.

but at least we have Sheriff Blaylock Nachos.
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McNair is not a cheapskate or he wouldn't have spent the damn money to get the team in the first place. When was the last time any of yall parted with close to a billiion damn dollars to do something.

Jezzzzzzzz
 
Second Honeymoon said:
they really needed a WR something fierce...and they addressed the need. kudos to them but they have probably the best GM in the business in Newsome.

we need a RB, C, CB, FS, and DT. Nothing yet. Bueller? Bueller?
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Newsome is a very good GM, but remember they don't usually go heavy in FA either. They let Bart Scott and Adalius Thomas walk and they still have a pretty tough D. They added Stallworth and Boldin at WR so the offense should be better.

As for you second statement, the Texans always address majority needs through the draft. They are hardly ever players in FA. People on this board are up in arms right now about the lack of signings (despite only being about 17 hrs into FA) but we all expected it to be like this.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
they really needed a WR something fierce...and they addressed the need. kudos to them but they have probably the best GM in the business in Newsome.

we need a RB, C, CB, FS, and DT. Nothing yet. Bueller? Bueller?
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The Texans may very well retain Walter now. How many posts have you referenced him basically being all but gone now?? And with the free agents available this year, I think most everyone anticipated a quick start for some of the bigger names (very few of em).... then a calming of the storm afterwards before the rest get signed spread out over a longer period of time. Our holes will be addressed via this free agency and more so in the draft. There is a long ways to go yet.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
It's somewhat difficult to get too excited about him when the Chief's OL was ranked 27th in the NFL last year.
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Sure. You are right. But you have to break it down. The Chiefs two starting tackles were Albert(#64) and Callaghan (#67). Their other guard was Waters (#53) and their Center was Neiswinger (#29). So when you put that all together take a look at what the line was:

Tackles: low quality NFL starter/high quality backup(64/64 and 67/64)
Center: Low quality NFL starter (29/32)
Guard: 1 quality NFL starter (23/64) and 1 low quality NFL starter(53/64).

So as you can see he was the best lineman they had and was in the top 36% tile of NFL Guards.

In comparison: Studdard was #71.

So, I reiterate this would be a quality unsexy signing.
 
We overpay for a second string, sorry, third string quarterback.

We haven't signed our best or second best player on defense, and one of the top TE in the game.

We have seen othesr jump and sign veteran players to their team that may only play 2 or 4 years.

We are one of the youngest teams but don't try to add age, wisdom and playoff experiance to this team and more importantly, fill holes.

We haven't made an impact this offseason, except by giving up players.

We have seen this team make exscuses, sorry, reasons why we should sign and give a raise to a coach that hasn't achieved what he was supposed to, or what some of his peers have in the same time.

We are what we are.

Management has chosen to look at the bottom line, gage that by our finish, see how much money we made or loss, and if we haave made more money than what we are compared by, than it is a successful season.

We finally know the bottom line matters more than where we finish competively.

Sorry, I have started without a lot of yall drinking this Friday.

Let me know if I am wrong.

We have seen this for how long?

This isn't Gary or Rick, its on Bob. He is the owner, he has set expectations, and Gary and Rick are meeting them.

Still a fan, just like the everyone else. I can sacrifice the standings result just as long as we are making an effort. But I don't see any effort by our front office. .
 
Second Honeymoon said:
they really needed a WR something fierce...and they addressed the need. kudos to them but they have probably the best GM in the business in Newsome.

we need a RB, C, CB, FS, and DT. Nothing yet. Bueller? Bueller?
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So are you saying you expected the Texans to be major players in FA this year?
 
b0ng said:
So are you saying you expected the Texans to be major players in FA this year?
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no i didn't but when the salary demands are $3million a year for the best RB candidate out there, I would think Bob could throw us fans a freaking bone.

but youre right, i wasn't expecting anything from Bob McLane and i should have known better
 
TexansBull said:
Management has chosen to look at the bottom line, gage that by our finish, see how much money we made or loss, and if we haave made more money than what we are compared by, than it is a successful season.

We finally know the bottom line matters more than where we finish competively.
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This kind of crap is what gets me. I mean how do you/we actually "know" this?? Are you in the meetings? Do you speak to them every day? Are you a fly on the wall? I mean really??? You don't really "know" any of this for sure. What happens if we get to the playoffs next year??? What happens to your "know" then?



In regards to our free agency. I would be a VERY happy Texan if we could land Leigh Bodden and Wade Smith. Thats all it would take for me. And the chatter at least is there for now.
 
Thorn said:
McNair is not a cheapskate or he wouldn't have spent the damn money to get the team in the first place. When was the last time any of yall parted with close to a billiion damn dollars to do something.

Jezzzzzzzz
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he has already made an almost $500 million dollar return on his investment in just hte value of his franchise, not to mention profits he has made annually since 2002.

buying the team wasn't cheap but his operation of the team has been cheap.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
no i didn't but when the salary demands are $3million a year for the best RB candidate out there, I would think Bob could throw us fans a freaking bone.

but youre right, i wasn't expecting anything from Bob McLane and i should have known better
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Then why are you so upset? Wouldn't this be "living up to your expectations"?
 
Second Honeymoon said:
they really needed a WR something fierce...and they addressed the need. kudos to them but they have probably the best GM in the business in Newsome.

we need a RB, C, CB, FS, and DT. Nothing yet. Bueller? Bueller?
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Sure we need them, but look at whats available. We may sign OG Smith. I have shown in this thread how that would be a solid unsexy signing. Smith was a solid OG last year so he can slide into Studdard's spot. That right there is a big upgrade.

We may very well go after a CB like Boddard (who was the #14 last year btw) to replace DR(who was #98).

One thing that many people on this board need to remember is that this is not a great FA class year in the NFL. Do you want McNair to throw around big money at marginal players? How about even throwing around big money at good players? Aside from Reggie White and Drew Brees when has it worked out that a team threw BIG $ at a FA and it turned into a positive? Usually, in football, throwing big $ at a FA ends in a lack of success.

In contrast, the NFL draft is poised to be quite strong this year. I suspect that many of our needs will be filled there.

And I am on board that we need to resign Meco, Pollard, and OD. You must draft and keep important key players and these three are that.
 
According to John McClain via Sportsradio 610, the Texans have re-signed WR Kevin Walter. Details to come. Kevin Walter is coming back, good way to start off.
 
b0ng said:
Then why are you so upset? Wouldn't this be "living up to your expectations"?
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no you are right. mcnair is acting just like i expected. acting like a cheapskate owner who is more concerned with profits and losses than wins and losses.

i apologize for being optimistic and feeling a little let down
 
Nawzer said:
According to John McClain via Sportsradio 610, the Texans have re-signed WR Kevin Walter. Details to come. Kevin Walter is coming back, good way to start off.
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There you go. KW has returned.

I am reminded of a great Golic bit on Mike and Mike in regards to the term "re-signed"!
 
Second Honeymoon said:
no you are right. mcnair is acting just like i expected. acting like a cheapskate owner who is more concerned with profits and losses than wins and losses.

i apologize for being optimistic and feeling a little let down
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I find it dubious that you were optimistic at any point in the past few years honestly.

Anyways, Infantrycak has already raked you, steelb and other fans of the word "cheapskate" over the coals in numerous other threads, since he's not here right now I guess you guys should have your fun.

What do you guys think about DRob going to the Falcons for 6 years. Think he'll put up any better numbers in one of the only secondaries that was actually worse than ours?
 
Second Honeymoon said:
no i didn't but when the salary demands are $3million a year for the best RB candidate out there, I would think Bob could throw us fans a freaking bone.

but youre right, i wasn't expecting anything from Bob McLane and i should have known better
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This is the thing that gets me. How in the the hell does anyone know that we weren't after Taylor??? His first visit was to Chicago so I would theorize that they were obviously his top choice. Apparently he was happy enough with their "mediocre" offer that he signed within hours.

It's a no-win situation for McNair and the FO. When they go out and get top FA's (Wade, Weaver, Robaire Smith, etc.) those guys don't pan out and the fans complain while we have to eat those contracts. Then we don't sign anyone and everyone complains that they don't care about winning and are just greedy money grubbers.
 
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