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2009 Texans Talk Member Mock Draft

With the 31st pick the Arizona Cardinals select Louis Delmas, FS from Western Michigan.

Explanation: The Cardinals had poor secondary play last year and it showed in the Super Bowl. Outside of All-Pro Adrian Wilson nobody played that well. Last year's 1st round choice Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie started slow, but improved every game and played well for a rookie and hopefully he continues to get better. With Rodgers-Cromartie locking up one CB spot and Wilson at SS the Cardinals have two good players in the secondary, but also have a need at FS and the other CB spot. Antrel Rolle is not the answer at FS and may be moved back to CB if Delmas shows promise as a rookie.
 
WolverineFan said:
With the 31st pick the Arizona Cardinals select Louis Delmas, FS from Western Michigan.

Explanation: The Cardinals had poor secondary play last year and it showed in the Super Bowl. Outside of All-Pro Adrian Wilson nobody played that well. Last year's 1st round choice Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie started slow, but improved every game and played well for a rookie and hopefully he continues to get better. With Rodgers-Cromartie locking up one CB spot and Wilson at SS the Cardinals have two good players in the secondary, but also have a need at FS and the other CB spot. Antrel Rolle is not the answer at FS and may be moved back to CB if Delmas shows promise as a rookie.
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Not bad.

Getting the top ranked safety this late in the first round sounds like a good deal, especially if it fills a need.
 
bah007 said:
Not bad.

Getting the top ranked safety this late in the first round sounds like a good deal, especially if it fills a need.
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Well it was down to Safety or CB and I went with Delmas. As long as it was one of the top DB's that pick really couldn't go wrong.
 
WolverineFan said:
With the 31st pick the Arizona Cardinals select Louis Delmas, FS from Western Michigan.

Explanation: The Cardinals had poor secondary play last year and it showed in the Super Bowl. Outside of All-Pro Adrian Wilson nobody played that well. Last year's 1st round choice Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie started slow, but improved every game and played well for a rookie and hopefully he continues to get better. With Rodgers-Cromartie locking up one CB spot and Wilson at SS the Cardinals have two good players in the secondary, but also have a need at FS and the other CB spot. Antrel Rolle is not the answer at FS and may be moved back to CB if Delmas shows promise as a rookie.
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Nicely done, Wolverine. Good pick. :cool:
 
The Pencil Neck said:
With the 29th pick in the draft, the New York Giants select:

Chris "Beanie" Wells, RB, Ohio State

This was actually a tough choice. I hadn't planned on going after a RB until the later rounds. But with Wells falling to me and Brandon Jacobs and Derrick Ward becoming free agents, I have to get a RB to pair with Ahmad Bradshaw.
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This is a great pick IMO. The Giants have a great offensive line in a power offense, and Chris Wells fits.
 
We must have had about 1/3 of the drafters not show up for their pick and this is just the 1st round!

Just think how many will pass on their 2nd & 3rd round picks...
 
bah007 said:
We must have had about 1/3 of the drafters not show up for their pick and this is just the 1st round!

Just think how many will pass on their 2nd & 3rd round picks...
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I know it's really sad. I had one trade offer done, but I was working on another one at the same time. Kind of like a package deal between the three of us, but the guy never replied and has only posted twice on this entire 19 page thread and the mods had to make his 1st round pick.

It's really annoying how alot of the members don't participate in the mock. The 2nd & 3rd rounds will most likely be unbearable.
 
Ill take a few suggestions.

Percy Harvin is the #1 prospect on my board.

Larry English - Would probably have to play OLB in their 3-4
William Moore - Some dont like him but at the bottom of the first, I dont think he is a bad pick.
Alphonso Smith - I think they are ok at CB right now.

EDIT: Also William Beatty could be their man.
 
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Super Mario said:
Ill take a few suggestions.

Percy Harvin is the #1 prospect on my board.

Larry English - Would probably have to play OLB in their 3-4
William Moore - Some dont like him but at the bottom of the first, I dont think he is a bad pick.
Alphonso Smith - I think they are ok at CB right now.
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There are only two positions I think Pittsburgh should be looking at here:

Beef up RT with Phil Loadholt (this may be high for him, but OL is their main priority this year).

Take a CB. D.J. Moore is the highest rated on my board, followed by Alphonso Smith.

I vote that they should take Moore. He is the highest rated player overall on my board right now. I'm actually surprised he hasn't been taken.
 
WolverineFan said:
I know it's really sad. I had one trade offer done, but I was working on another one at the same time. Kind of like a package deal between the three of us, but the guy never replied and has only posted twice on this entire 19 page thread and the mods had to make his 1st round pick.

It's really annoying how alot of the members don't participate in the mock. The 2nd & 3rd rounds will most likely be unbearable.
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I think the post combine mock should be my invitation only. You must be pre-approved like credit. :P
 
Super Mario said:
Ill take a few suggestions.

Percy Harvin is the #1 prospect on my board.

Larry English - Would probably have to play OLB in their 3-4
William Moore - Some dont like him but at the bottom of the first, I dont think he is a bad pick.
Alphonso Smith - I think they are ok at CB right now.

EDIT: Also William Beatty could be their man.
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bah007 said:
There are only two positions I think Pittsburgh should be looking at here:

Beef up RT with Phil Loadholt (this may be high for him, but OL is their main priority this year).

Take a CB. D.J. Moore is the highest rated on my board, followed by Alphonso Smith.

I vote that they should take Moore. He is the highest rated player overall on my board right now. I'm actually surprised he hasn't been taken.
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I think bah007's right on the money, but I might be a little higher on Smith than I am Moore at this time.

IMO, if you're looking at an upgrade at WR (remember they still have Sweed) I'd go with Darrius Heyward-Bey. He's presently the best WR on my board. Harvin just scares the crap out of me sorta like Ginn did.

My .02
 
I'm not sure about a WR pick. I think the top CB that fits their system could be good. But my pick for the steelers would be Herman Johnson, OG, LSU. Big nasty guy that will fit in perfectly as a right guard for the steelers and pave the way in run blocking for Parker and Mendenhall.
 
Since we cant come together on a CB, we are going to give them an OL.

The Pittsburgh Steelers select William Beatty, OL, Connecticut.

This concludes Round 1.

Round 2 is officially open.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
I'm not sure about a WR pick. I think the top CB that fits their system could be good. But my pick for the steelers would be Herman Johnson, OG, LSU. Big nasty guy that will fit in perfectly as a right guard for the steelers and pave the way in run blocking for Parker and Mendenhall.
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I think this would be a little high for Herman. And guards have to be special to go round 1.
 
With the 33rd pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Denver Broncos select Clay Matthews, LB from USC.

Thoughts: Denver needs all the front 7 help they can get with switching to a 3-4 defense. They got an anchor at DE with Tyson Jackson in the 1st round. They need help at Safety so Chung was a very close selection here, but the upside of Matthews was too much for the Broncos to pass. This kid is shooting up the boards and will most likely be a last 1st/early 2nd round pick come draft time.

Clay is a great pass rushing LB, is smart, a good leader and will be able to help out on special teams as well. He's a versatile LB that they can move around in their 3-4 and even put him as a pass rushing DE occasionally when they show a 4-3 look. I can see New England and Miami sniffing him in the 1st round.

1st round- Tyson Jackon, DE, LSU
2nd round- Clay Matthews, LB, USC
 
Been a part of these mocks every time there has been one, going back to the old board.
All most no one shows up after round one. It really starts to get old waiting around for a pick and the mock goes on for weeks.
Those that do hang around take over the teams of the no shows. It comes down to eight to ten hardcore guys every year.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
With the 33rd pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Denver Broncos select Clay Matthews, LB from USC.

Thoughts: Denver needs all the front 7 help they can get with switching to a 3-4 defense. They got an anchor at DE with Tyson Jackson in the 1st round. They need help at Safety so Chung was a very close selection here, but the upside of Matthews was too much for the Broncos to pass. This kid is shooting up the boards and will most likely be a last 1st/early 2nd round pick come draft time.

Clay is a great pass rushing LB, is smart, a good leader and will be able to help out on special teams as well. He's a versatile LB that they can move around in their 3-4 and even put him as a pass rushing DE occasionally when they show a 4-3 look. I can see New England and Miami sniffing him in the 1st round.

1st round- Tyson Jackon, DE, LSU
2nd round- Clay Matthews, LB, USC
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Looking good. Nice start to your new 3-4 defense.
 
jgl35 said:
Been a part of these mocks every time there has been one, going back to the old board.
All most no one shows up after round one. It really starts to get old waiting around for a pick and the mock goes on for weeks.
Those that do hang around take over the teams of the no shows. It comes down to eight to ten hardcore guys every year.
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Should we make a change on the fly?

Round 2-3 stay at 12 hour clock or 6 hour clock?

Users need to make sure to PM me their top 3-5 if they wont be around all day.
 
Six hours can get rough because guys work and not all can get to a computer. The pm idea to you is good. A list of three players how you consider ranked one, two, three.
Let it weed out to who is going to show and let the ones who come pick up the no show teams if most everyone agress to that.
 
jgl35 said:
Six hours can get rough because guys work and not all can get to a computer. The pm idea to you is good. A list of three players how you consider ranked one, two, three.
Let it weed out to who is going to show and let the ones who come pick up the no show teams if most everyone agress to that.
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I'm cool with this idea.
 
Super Mario said:
Should we make a change on the fly?

Round 2-3 stay at 12 hour clock or 6 hour clock?

Users need to make sure to PM me their top 3-5 if they wont be around all day.
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I would say keep the 12 hour clock. Stuff happens. But if your pick comes up that doesn't mean you have to take the full 12 hours.

PM idea is a good one.
 
Ok 12 hour clock stays by popular demand and PM me if you know you wont be around often enough to make your pick that is coming up.

Also less worrying about trades and more focus on making your picks from here on out.
 
bah007 said:
I would say keep the 12 hour clock. Stuff happens. But if your pick comes up that doesn't mean you have to take the full 12 hours.

PM idea is a good one.
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I agree. I took almost the entire 24 hour clock, but that's because I was contemplating a trade and was waiting on a response from a member who has not been active in this draft at all. If we had a group of people who would fully participate then this thing would have been done already.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
With the 33rd pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Denver Broncos select Clay Matthews, LB from USC.

Thoughts: Denver needs all the front 7 help they can get with switching to a 3-4 defense. They got an anchor at DE with Tyson Jackson in the 1st round. They need help at Safety so Chung was a very close selection here, but the upside of Matthews was too much for the Broncos to pass. This kid is shooting up the boards and will most likely be a last 1st/early 2nd round pick come draft time.

Clay is a great pass rushing LB, is smart, a good leader and will be able to help out on special teams as well. He's a versatile LB that they can move around in their 3-4 and even put him as a pass rushing DE occasionally when they show a 4-3 look. I can see New England and Miami sniffing him in the 1st round.

1st round- Tyson Jackon, DE, LSU
2nd round- Clay Matthews, LB, USC
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Great picks for Denver's needs, OMT.
 
Super Mario said:
Should we make a change on the fly?

Round 2-3 stay at 12 hour clock or 6 hour clock?

Users need to make sure to PM me their top 3-5 if they wont be around all day.
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If we go to a 6 hour clock, count me out. I cannot access from work. sorry. Please do what is best for the majority. I just did not want anyone to think I was not filling my end of the bargain.

Best,
Rick
 
rickyb said:
If we go to a 6 hour clock, count me out. I cannot access from work. sorry. Please do what is best for the majority. I just did not want anyone to think I was not filling my end of the bargain.

Best,
Rick
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I already stated that its staying 12 hour so dont worry.
 
rmartin65 said:
I dont like it. Some people lurk around here, yet dont feel like saying anything.

I would like to be a part of the invite only. I am here every day, multiple times. I just dont chime in on everything, so my post count is low.
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Well ... offer Super Mario 10 dollars in unmarked bills .
 
I would be interested in a post combine mock.

I dont have the posts that some people have but I'm here several times a day.
 
Well, I was hoping that Moreno would fall all the way into my lap in the second round. I know that the Chiefs have LJ, but his production has went down drastically last year and his character is going to be questioned. He is facing possible suspension from his off the field issues and everything, but I just don't value a particular RB at this spot. I was considering Shonne Green, but he really only produced for one year and will be 25 his rookie year. I would like to get a few extra years out of a RB, and I feel the value will be there later in the draft. Instead, I decided to fix the horrid pass-rush. 10 sacks? Really? If I had my way, Dorsey would not have been drafted last year. I was calling bust then. However, I do not like a single DT in the top 3 rounds this year. This is a very poor DT class and I think Raji has bust written all over him. I narrowed my list of DE's down to three:

Paul Kruger, DE, Utah
Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee
Lawrence Sidbury, DE, Richmond

Ayers comes from a defensive-rich conference and has come on strong late. He has had a great post-season circuit. Kruger I feel was more of the "big fish in a little pond" type player. I think he is an NFL player, I'm just not nearly as high on him as most of yall. Sidbury is a physical presence and has some of the best physical measurements of all the DE's in this years draft. He has experience getting to the QB and he has also had a great post-season circuit thus far against the top competition in the draft (more or less). It came down to Ayers and Sidbury, but I'm going to select Lawrence Sidbury from Richmond. I feel that his long arms will help him keep distance between OT's and that he has the potential to be a special DE. Sidbury put up more sacks this season (11.5) than Ayers did in his career (9). The Chiefs have gone with a youth movement and have taken projects early with someone like Alberts last year. The raw, unteachable, physical skill set is there, and you just can't pass that up in the NFL.
 
Interesting pick by the Chiefs. Earlier than I expected by about a round, but he should develop into a pass rush specialist.
 
awtysst said:
How would this be determined, out of curiosity?
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Obviously multiple things will be taken into account like posts, length of time on this board, and participation in other mocks would be a big plus. Also people can vouch for others. A lurker can participate no problem.

Obviously I am not God and don't want to reject people from a group event, but for the sake of the 32 GM's who give a damn I think its necessary and this mock proves that.
 
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