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He wouldn't make it out of training camp.
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He wouldn't make it out of training camp.
i don't wanna see this dude here, he can't stay out of trouble & seems like he still can't get over the fact that he's not the man anymore. think about it, this dude has been catered to & pampered since he was in high school, then he gets drafted, sees he's not "the dude" anymore & then begins to engage in self-destructive behavior.
Furthermore, he's not a tough enough runner for me, he tries to pick his way through the line too much........
One thing that irks me about Benson possibly coming here is, who is going to loose their training camp invite. Only 80 players can attend. How many of the invites have played by the rules and done what what was asked of them and then some. Is it going to be fair to them? This may be the NFL and a "Business" , but where do you draw the line?
I think at this point, we are supposed to talk about beggars and choosers.
Clearly, you have to learn from your mistakes. But you also can't overlearn from them.
You would like to see a running back show more despite a crap offense. But there have also been situations where running backs produce poorly for one offense and good for other ones and vice versa.
The Texans like lots of legs for camp. Kubiak got crushed in his first year with the situation that they had at running back--he thought he would have DD, he thought his young players would produce more, and that didn't work out so well. He hoped to get more from Green last year and that didn't work out so well.
I have no problem giving anyone a look as long as the initial cost is minimal. I'm sure we'd be offering Ced virtually nothing in the way of guarantees/bonuses. The only cost then has to do with awarding him one of the 80 precious spots that we have for training camp. I have not crunched the numbers, but Smithiak believe we can comfortably bring Ced, Green, Brown, Slaton, Taylor and Walker to the party, then by all means.
Kubes certainly has had buzzard's luck on RBs in his two years here, so I dont' begrudge his efforts to find a solution. But it has to be done in a way that imparts to Benson that he's not getting a job unless he works his ever-loving tail off and keeps his mouth shut tight.
One thing that irks me about Benson possibly coming here is, who is going to lose their training camp invite. Only 80 players can attend. How many of the invites have played by the rules and done what what was asked of them and then some. Is it going to be fair to them? This may be the NFL and a "Business" , but where do you draw the line?
Can't take credit for that one. Someone posted that last year and I LMAO and waited to 'borrow' it.
4 pages of benson speculation???
It's just a pipe dream for him, and it ain't gonna happen.
The only way Benson is at any Texans games next year will be if he is TAILGATING in the parking lot with the rest of us. After all, that is where all the liquor and beer is.
some will be happy in the austin area.. boat rides and if i recall a couple of cute ladies on that thing
What I think is that someone was drunk.... Cedric Benson is a client at a place were I work and he was just in today. He was talking about the teams that he is talking with and the one that is closest to reaching a deal is Houston Texans. So what do you think.
...As a side note, I know if I were Cedric Benson, and I got cut from the Bears, and I was in the Houston area, I'd probably say that I was closest to a deal with the Texans...
Whats the worst that could happen? He signs, gets busted DUI and gets cut? Not like we're going to through LT money at him. More like Ron Dayne money.
What if.......... if were a fifth??
We'd all be inebriated.
...Cedric Benson is a client at a place were I work and he was just in today.
...It shows that he's irresponsible, immature, and really, really stupid.
I tend to agree with this take of trusting our HC and front office.
But, the part that bugs me is what Lucky said...
Beyond the 4 game suspension, which is already a quarter of the season, I'd be concerned about a potential relapse of the old CB and the distractions that creates for this team. I'm not convinced that this is a strong enough locker room with enough team leaders to prevent a problem situation with one player from infecting the team atmosphere.
The first part is a good point. Some folks just seem incorrigible, which is obviously a perspective, but even so, it's a crap shoot to hope that this guy pulls his head out of his butt in order to save his career.
The second part got me wondering...doesn't Kubiak's system require a one-cut RB who can make the split decision of recognizing blocks almost the moment he's given the ball? I honestly don't know enough about CB's style, but if what you are saying is any indication, I'm just not sure if he'll be a good fit based on his running style in our system.
Liquor store or pot house?
Couldn't resist. Sorry, man.
BTW...I have no problem with Ced trying out for the team. If we made Ron Dayne a decent RB in our system, and Ced is dedicated to playing hard, then it might turn out OK.
well, based on what I hear from guys I find credible he probably is talking to the team...I hope they put something together. I mean, heck...look at Thomas Jones the bust 7th overall pick from the Cards....took him a few years to figure out that the NFL wasn't a game...it was a job. He turned into a pretty solid back after he left the team that drafted him since he always had the physical talent. Perhaps Ced can get his head in this now that he has had it taken away. Personally I hope we can sign him as long as we have a contract we can bail on if he flakes again.
Well suited to play left tackle, (Chris) Williams should provide an upgrade to a unit that struggled in 2007
Boat rental place maybe?
well, based on what I hear from guys I find credible he probably is talking to the team...I hope they put something together. I mean, heck...look at Thomas Jones the bust 7th overall pick from the Cards....took him a few years to figure out that the NFL wasn't a game...it was a job. He turned into a pretty solid back after he left the team that drafted him since he always had the physical talent. Perhaps Ced can get his head in this now that he has had it taken away. Personally I hope we can sign him as long as we have a contract we can bail on if he flakes again.
Agreed.
I think that there is no way they could have done something like this in Kubiak's first year, because the locker room was a mess. There were a number of players with the Texans that didn't know how to prepare like pros.
Kubiak has this lockerroom going the right direction and has enough vets on the team to control players like this.
Clearly out of all the situations in the league, I really do think the Texans one would be best for him--opportunity, system (especially with Gibbs), close to home and UT fans that will give him a bigger break than some fans in other states, familiar faces such as K. Shanahan. He has a better chance of playing time with the Texans versus the Cowboys.
The Texans situation is a fairly "safe" environment. The Texans keep their dirty laundry in house, the media isn't that overly critical and the spotlight here isn't as intense as other places.
If the contract is structured right, it would be worth a look. (But not only does he have suspension things to worry about, there are also the BWI/DWI charges that may have consequences).
Agreed.
I think that there is no way they could have done something like this in Kubiak's first year, because the locker room was a mess. There were a number of players with the Texans that didn't know how to prepare like pros.
Kubiak has this lockerroom going the right direction and has enough vets on the team to control players like this.
Clearly out of all the situations in the league, I really do think the Texans one would be best for him--opportunity, system (especially with Gibbs), close to home and UT fans that will give him a bigger break than some fans in other states, familiar faces such as K. Shanahan. He has a better chance of playing time with the Texans versus the Cowboys.
The Texans situation is a fairly "safe" environment. The Texans keep their dirty laundry in house, the media isn't that overly critical and the spotlight here isn't as intense as other places.
If the contract is structured right, it would be worth a look. (But not only does he have suspension things to worry about, there are also the BWI/DWI charges that may have consequences).
you let camp decide who is the odd man out. Just like in the old days....and he has tons more talent than JW. Wells ran like Stacey Mack. Benson runs more like a poor mans Stephen Davis.i highly doubt this would happen, but my question is, if it did, who would be the odd man out at RB? kubes still talks about how we're a different offense with green on the field... no way we cut chris brown; he's a perfect fit... slaton is a definite lock. or hell, would ced even make this team? off the field issues aside, i'm not sure he'd fit well in this scheme... he runs like jonathan wells.
you let camp decide who is the odd man out. Just like in the old days....and he has tons more talent than JW. Wells ran like Stacey Mack. Benson runs more like a poor mans Stephen Davis.
Is this not what the suspension is for? I am drawing a blank.
If he has the two alcohol incidents on top of the suspension, certainly Goodell is going to add to the punishment.
you let camp decide who is the odd man out. Just like in the old days....and he has tons more talent than JW. Wells ran like Stacey Mack. Benson runs more like a poor mans Stephen Davis.
Not sure I see him that way. Always seemed to be a bit slow footed to me. I didn't like his game when he came out of college and now with all the other stuff, like him even less. Guess that's why they have horse races. If everyone agreed who would win....there would be no need to run them. The guys that get paid a boatload of money to see him correctly will make the call and they have been pretty darn good at it, so if they do it I'm OK with it.
If the Texans are going to handout 2nd chances for wayward RBs, I'd rather see the Texans give one to Travis Henry. At least he's proven he can get the job done, during different points in his career. Benson hasn't shown anything since entering the league. I mean Ron Dayne has out rushed Benson over the past 2 seasons.Perhaps Ced can get his head in this now that he has had it taken away. Personally I hope we can sign him as long as we have a contract we can bail on if he flakes again.
you let camp decide who is the odd man out. Just like in the old days....and he has tons more talent than JW. Wells ran like Stacey Mack. Benson runs more like a poor mans Stephen Davis.
If the Texans are going to handout 2nd chances for wayward RBs, I'd rather see the Texans give one to Travis Henry. At least he's proven he can get the job done, during different points in his career. Benson hasn't shown anything since entering the league. I mean Ron Dayne has out rushed Benson over the past 2 seasons.
I agree with that sentiment. However, what can he show in preseason/training camp that can mitigate his performance and behavior the past 6 seasons (college and pro) enough to justify the cutting of at least one of these guys : Slaton, CTaylor, AGreen, CBrown?
I agree with that sentiment. However, what can he show in preseason/training camp that can mitigate his performance and behavior the past 6 seasons (college and pro) enough to justify the cutting of at least one of these guys : Slaton, CTaylor, AGreen, CBrown?
well, based on what I hear from guys I find credible he probably is talking to the team...I hope they put something together. I mean, heck...look at Thomas Jones the bust 7th overall pick from the Cards....took him a few years to figure out that the NFL wasn't a game...it was a job. He turned into a pretty solid back after he left the team that drafted him since he always had the physical talent. Perhaps Ced can get his head in this now that he has had it taken away. Personally I hope we can sign him as long as we have a contract we can bail on if he flakes again.
I'm trying to remember if Benson can return kicks or not.
I'm agin it! He makes the offense too predictable, won't block, can't catch, he is a selfish troublemaker, so why on earth would we even want to give him a tryout?