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Just heard it in the car on the way back from lunch and didn't see anything here. Wonder where he'll end up. Be interesting to find out who peed in who's cheerios.
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I'm speculating here, but I wonder if Chow voiced his displeasure with vince..?? or if it was "Fisher Ball"???
I'm speculating here, but I wonder if Chow voiced his displeasure with vince..?? or if it was "Fisher Ball"???
Didn't he say that Vince needs to stop pouting on the sidelines when things go wrong? It was probably those comments, but probably Bud firing him because Vince wasn't doing well.
Chow wanted Leinart and has been sore ever since.
I mentioned this to many of my friends but I thought Young's talents were being wasted in this Chow offense. I think Young needs to be in a more vertical offense without all the extended hand offs and a scheme that tends to keep 8 defenders in or close to the box. Young can hurt a team when you spread them out...Chows offensive scheme kept everyone in tight. I'm not shocked to see him go.
Are you sure it's Chow as much as it is Fisher's offense?? Chow didn't seem to have a problem spreading the ball around at SC... And everyone knows that Coach Fisher has always had a conservative approach to offense - even since being here in Houston.
Fisher liked to pound the ball and take shots down the field when defenders creep in to stop the run. Chow likes to use tons of short passes and extended hand offs and doesn't really stretch the field much. I think that if Young was in Fishers scheme when Mike Heimerdinger was his OC he would have more success (I think Young has more upside than Steve McNair). I think this is a good move for the Titans and a bad move for us and the others in the AFC SouthYup!! Both of those are true!!!
Are you sure it's Chow as much as it is Fisher's offense?? Chow didn't seem to have a problem spreading the ball around at SC... And everyone knows that Coach Fisher has always had a conservative approach to offense - even since being here in Houston.
I mentioned this to many of my friends but I thought Young's talents were being wasted in this Chow offense. I think Young needs to be in a more vertical offense without all the extended hand offs and a scheme that tends to keep 8 defenders in or close to the box. Young can hurt a team when you spread them out...Chows offensive scheme kept everyone in tight. I'm not shocked to see him go.
Watch Leinart under pressure....he sucks. I didn't like Chow's scheme (after I saw many games) and I don't think that Young held him back. Chow was an unproven (in the NFL) coach...still is.Or was it because Chow couldn't utilize his entire playbook due to VY? At the time of the pick I was somewhat baffled they went with VY with Chow instead of Leinart. IMO, Adams forced the issue and the Chow hire was doomed.
Oh well, like kast said, he'll have no problem finding a job.
That's my thoughts. Somebody wasn't playing nice in the sandbox.
UT is interviewing Major Applewhite for the open RB coaches spot, obviously would be groomed for the top spot in a couple years. Fisher interviews Greg Davis to see if he wants to come to Tackville and build an offense around VY, Major interviews for the RB coach opening but ends up with the OC spot.
Watch Leinart under pressure....he sucks.
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Watch Leinart under pressure....he sucks. I didn't like Chow's scheme and I don't think that Young held him back. Chow was an unproven (in the NFL) coach...still is.
I think this is a good move for the Titans and a bad move for us and the others in the AFC South
That's my thoughts. Somebody wasn't playing nice in the sandbox.
UT is interviewing Major Applewhite for the open RB coaches spot, obviously would be groomed for the top spot in a couple years. Fisher interviews Greg Davis to see if he wants to come to Tackville and build an offense around VY, Major interviews for the RB coach opening but ends up with the OC spot.
I don't know, can it be much worse than the 0-4 record the Texans have against VY/Chow Titans
Never, ever ask if something could be worse. We could be 0-10 against them in a matter of three seasons from now.
Obviously, I hope this is not the case, but our 2-10 record against the Titans is what it is.
hahahahhahahah Greg Davis as NFL OC....hahahahhahahaha...funniest post ever
oh man, that is rich. I get where you are coming from because in a world where Davis didn't suck it would be a possiblity, but Davis has no chance in hell at a NFL OC job. not a snowball's chance in hell. VY didn't do much in college until Davis got out of the way and let Vince be Vince. Fisher is a smart coach so it will never happen.
that being said, NOTHING would make me happier as a Horns fan than to see Greg Davis leave Austin. That guy is just off the charts terrible. Mack is too damn loyal to the guy. He needs to go.
I don't want Applewhite as OC either. He was another coaches son just like McCoy and hopefully we start to go away from that in Austin. Unathletic small town coaches son's have got us nowhere and nothing over the past few decades. Gardere could at least beat OU but that was about it. The only guys who have won squat were James Brown and Vince Young and they were athetic and NOT coaches sons. We need more guys like that and less 'Opies' like Major and Colt. Colts absolutely sucks with Greg Davis or without.
hahahahhahahah Greg Davis as NFL OC....hahahahhahahaha...funniest post ever
hahahahhahahah Greg Davis as NFL OC....hahahahhahahaha...funniest post ever
oh man, that is rich. I get where you are coming from because in a world where Davis didn't suck it would be a possiblity, but Davis has no chance in hell at a NFL OC job. not a snowball's chance in hell. VY didn't do much in college until Davis got out of the way and let Vince be Vince. Fisher is a smart coach so it will never happen.
that being said, NOTHING would make me happier as a Horns fan than to see Greg Davis leave Austin. That guy is just off the charts terrible. Mack is too damn loyal to the guy. He needs to go.
I don't want Applewhite as OC either. He was another coaches son just like McCoy and hopefully we start to go away from that in Austin. Unathletic small town coaches son's have got us nowhere and nothing over the past few decades. Gardere could at least beat OU but that was about it. The only guys who have won squat were James Brown and Vince Young and they were athetic and NOT coaches sons. We need more guys like that and less 'Opies' like Major and Colt. Colts absolutely sucks with Greg Davis or without.
I'm speculating here, but I wonder if Chow voiced his displeasure with vince..?? or if it was "Fisher Ball"???
LOL...don't get me wrong, were on the same page on this one. Davis is the epitome of suck, and it would be a two for one if UT got rid of him and TU got him. What would be funny would be seeing Davis up in the booth with the helmet on and VY on the field with the headset telling him what play he was going to run.
I think Major has a way to go, but if it means getting Davis the hell out of there, well so beit.
Ok...now back to reality, play time is over.
I think Chow goes back to college.
I really think the Titans are going to push hard for Cameron or bring back Heimindinger...or however the hell you spell his name...
I think that if Young was in Fishers scheme when Mike Heimerdinger was his OC he would have more success
Fisher liked to pound the ball and take shots down the field when defenders creep in to stop the run. Chow likes to use tons of short passes and extended hand offs and doesn't really stretch the field much. I think that if Young was in Fishers scheme when Mike Heimerdinger was his OC he would have more success (I think Young has more upside than Steve McNair). I think this is a good move for the Titans and a bad move for us and the others in the AFC South
Apparently you're not the only person that thinks this way....
"The Titans are expected to move quickly to replace Chow and have their sights set on Denver Broncos assistant head coach Mike Heimerdinger, who was Fisher's offensive coordinator from 2000-04. Heimerdinger, who spent the past two seasons with the Broncos after one season with the New York Jets. On Tuesday night the Titans requested permission to speak with him."
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080116/SPORTS01/801160466/1002/SPORTS
Young QB's struggle...just because you hate the guy doesn't change that any.you're making the dangerous assumption that Vince Young could learn ANY offense.
The Titans offense in the Vince era did not look like any Chow offense I had seen before. Rather some weird hybrid involving the UT spread option. While that helped Young have some success early, it has retarded his progress as a NFL QB. Chow is a proven QB coach, but he couldn't reach Vince.
Fisher wants to run a power running game, with a bunch of designed roll outs and bootlegs. Ball control & playaction. He has the McNair clone in Young, but what's missing is the Eddie George type workhorse. All the experts believe that the Titans will look for a WR to help Vince. I think that Fisher will jump at the chance to get a Mendenhall or Stewart. Maybe even go after Michael Turner in free agency.
Henry was a mistake because Chow wanted a kagillion short passes as his passing game foundation. His offense worked great in College but may not work so well in the NFL where you have better tacklers on the edges and in the secondary. Henry was supposed to be a guy who caught a lot of short passes in space.There is almost no chance that the Titans go after Turner, if Turner is demanding 15M+ as a signing bonus. I suspect they will turn to the draft and try and correct a brutal mistake (Chris Henry) and take one of the highly touted RBs in round 3, probably more of a speedy changeup to the three yards and a cloud of dust Lendale...
Fisher liked to pound the ball and take shots down the field when defenders creep in to stop the run. Chow likes to use tons of short passes and extended hand offs and doesn't really stretch the field much. I think that if Young was in Fishers scheme when Mike Heimerdinger was his OC he would have more success (I think Young has more upside than Steve McNair). I think this is a good move for the Titans and a bad move for us and the others in the AFC South