Yep, the biggest mistake Gaine made.
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Yep, the biggest mistake Gaine made.
He may not have been offered to the Texans... it's been speculated that that trade was part of the Garropolo deal just enacted later ala the Ozweiler deal
former or latter? I believe the latter
OK, i think both have a degree of truthfulness
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
CB, Isaiah Johnson- Houston is a sleeper in the draft. Some boards have him going as early as RD2 and some as late as RD5. At 6-2 / 195 lbs he's got the size but throw in the speed and physicality, I wouldn't hesitate to take him RD3 if still on the board. If it appeared he'd roll into RD4 I'd contemplate trading back and picking up either an extra RD4 or RD5 pick.
@SportsInsights: Odds to win Super Bowl LIV
Rams +750
Chiefs +800
Patriots +800
Saints +950
Colts +1500
Chargers +1550
Steelers +1600
Bears +1650
Vikings +1700
Eagles +1900
Packers +2000
Browns +2150
Cowboys+2150
Falcons +2850
Ravens +3300
Texans +3500
Jaguars +3500
Rams +750
Chiefs +800
Patriots +800
Saints +950
Colts +1500
Chargers +1550
Steelers +1600
Bears +1650
Vikings +1700
Eagles +1900
Packers +2000
Browns +2150
Cowboys+2150
Falcons +2850
Ravens +3300
Texans +3500
Jaguars +3500
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
So they're saying the Texans have a chance!!!!!!
infantrycak
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Same chance as the 5-11 Jags. They think 2018 was a mirage.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
2018 was a mirage.....in all seriousness and I'm not trying to make anyone angry, the Texans were probably one of the worst 11-5 teams since the NFL went to the 16 game schedule.
Could they improve substantially in 2019? I think they could if Gaine pulls off a successful draft and off-season. They could wind up being a much, much better 10-6 team than the 11-5 team of last year.
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maverick512000
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They could be right but also for some reason none of the sports experts ever give the Texans much credit for anything. I can't think of one game the Texans have won, in any year, that most experts weren't saying it was due to the other team making a mistake rather than the Texans playing a good game. That's not just an issue since BoB came along either, I remember thinking the same thing when Kubiak was here. For a team that's only been around for 16 years we actually are doing an amazing job so maybe its just they don't like the idea of the new kids on the block beating up on the old guard.
As well as 2017
Here are some odds a bit better for the Texans:
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KC 6/1
LAR, NO, NE 8/1
LAC, Chi, Pit 14/1
Min, GB, Dal 16/1
Phi, Bal, Ind, Cle, Hou 20/1
Sea 30/1
Atl, Jax, NYG 40/1
SF 50/1
Car, Ten, Den 60/1
TB, NYJ 80/1
Wsh, Det, Buf, Cin, Oak, Ari 100/1
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NFL Super Bowl LIV (2020) updated
KC 6/1
LAR, NO, NE 8/1
LAC, Chi, Pit 14/1
Min, GB, Dal 16/1
Phi, Bal, Ind, Cle, Hou 20/1
Sea 30/1
Atl, Jax, NYG 40/1
SF 50/1
Car, Ten, Den 60/1
TB, NYJ 80/1
Wsh, Det, Buf, Cin, Oak, Ari 100/1
Mia 300/1
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maverick512000
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Huh, wonder what they saw/see in Min, GB, Dal 16/1 that gives them better odds than Phi, Ind and Hell even us.
Chicago based company?
Don't know, but if there are way off any smart bettor can go in and clean them up.
Tweet from @riversmccown: Last season, the Texans made zone runs their bread and butter despite the fact that they couldn’t run zone to save their lives. https://twitter.com/riversmccown/status/1093154850160791553
https://www.riversmccown.com/2019/0...heir-running-offense-more-consistent-in-2019/
How can the Texans make their running offense more consistent in 2019?
Yes, the Houston Texans were a zone running team that could not run zone to save their lives in 2018. The funniest part about this chart is that you can draw a direct axis to games they ran for 100 yards and how likely it was they ran Power — only 14 of their Power runs came in the seven games they didn’t reach 100 yards rushing.
While charting blown blocks is a highly subjective thing, and the Texans offensive problems go beyond just blown blocks, I think it is instructive to focus on Nick Martin here. Martin is the one player on the line that I think escaped most criticism, but he had more blown blocks than any lineman that ran zone for the Texans last year.
(More at the link)
https://www.riversmccown.com/2019/0...heir-running-offense-more-consistent-in-2019/
How can the Texans make their running offense more consistent in 2019?
Yes, the Houston Texans were a zone running team that could not run zone to save their lives in 2018. The funniest part about this chart is that you can draw a direct axis to games they ran for 100 yards and how likely it was they ran Power — only 14 of their Power runs came in the seven games they didn’t reach 100 yards rushing.
While charting blown blocks is a highly subjective thing, and the Texans offensive problems go beyond just blown blocks, I think it is instructive to focus on Nick Martin here. Martin is the one player on the line that I think escaped most criticism, but he had more blown blocks than any lineman that ran zone for the Texans last year.
(More at the link)
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Another reason I changed direction with my mock drafts by adding OC/OG, Erik McCoy- Texas A&M instead of another OT. I've not been sold on the play of Martin. McCoy, if he was drafted and given a chance to compete could replace Martin by game one. He's smart and plays with a nasty streak which this OLneeds if they want to change the look of their running game.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
repeat
Too bad we got away from our zone blocking OLmen
zshawn10
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NFL's Best Coaches per Rotoworld
https://www.rotoworld.com/article/goal-line-stand/nfls-best-coaches-2019
https://www.rotoworld.com/article/goal-line-stand/nfls-best-coaches-2019
And he’s still better than O’Brien.
I would love to see what BOB could've done with the Big Ben/Steelers/OL/Bell/AB/JuJu etc... Talent matters
Carr Bombed
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What are you talking about, the Texans have been picked and been favorites of the media numerous times only for us to roll out steaming piles like the letter jacket game and smear egg on all of their faces. The Texans have always been the boy who cries wolf. If I was in the national media I wouldn't be on the bandwagon, I mean I'll just play the odds here.
Also.. what do you mean by "For a team that's only been around for 16 years we actually are doing an amazing job"? In what world have we done a "amazing job"?
Texansballer74
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Last year several talking heads were very high on the Texans. Mainly because of what Watson showed in his rookie year. So I'm trying to figure out what Maverick was talking about to.
I thought the same thing. Then I saw the list of 10 guys behind him & started thinking about tall midgets.
Compared to the 2nd youngest NFL franchise... I wouldn't say amazing but I understand the "slight" exaggeration.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Do you think Jag fans are happy with their franchise right now..and they've been to two AFC Championship games.
As a franchise... Houston hasn't done squat yet.. The division looks to be the toughest it's ever been, so big boy football is really about to start in the AFC South, but Deshaun Watson represents hope if we can ever figure out the damn offensive line.. I like the fact that he was able to make it through a full 16 game season and is another year removed from the injury.
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2nd youngest franchise is the Cleveland Browns.
ummm, ranked by who?
Texas Jake
Rookie
How do you finish 11-5 and in the playoffs and the coaching staff ranks in the bottom 10?
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Because many times the team looked unprepared, underperforming & outschemed.
Texas Jake
Rookie
I would agree that they appeared that way at times, but I think 11-5 was overachieving considering the o-line, depleted receiving corps, and issues at CB. How much of the appearance of being outshemed was coaching and how much of it was the lack of talent at key positions that could not be covered up.
Because the offense, time management, and challenge flag decisions were terrible. They won thanks to defense, special teams and a weak schedule, and they were exposed in the playoffs.
Porky
Hall of Fame
Their schedule was the equivalent of the stay puft marshmallow man. The only team missing from the schedule was the senior division from the Little Sisters of the poor.
Unless they get their **** together and actually somehow learn how to be better coaches 5 years in, I see them regressing with a more difficult schedule, unless they just kill it in FA and the draft. Talent eventually wins out.
But I feel like this coaching staff is like a governor on a race car. It's holding them back. They won despite crap at HC not because of it.
Mangler
Toro de España
Maybe because 3 of those 11 wins were due to our defense getting torched in what should have been game winning drives for our opponent, but their kicker somehow missed the kick gifting us another sloppy win? Let’s not act like we’re some world beaters now, or that O’Brien is the second coming of Belichick. This 2019 season ought to bring the O’Brien apologists back down to earth...
I agree they weren't world beaters
I think the coaching staff actually did quite well with the talent they had on hand despite some hiccups like say in the Pats game/1st Tacks game.
So bringing down people who realistically look at the talent level on the team and also see the coaching has to improve some also but appreciate the overall job they did last yr despite the many obstacles thrown in their way last yr doesn't truly appreciate the job that they did in yr 1 of a mini rebuild.
Texas Jake
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Hey, I am not saying they are top ten, but I think bottom ten is far too critical. You don't win 11 games with the holes they had in personnel with a bottom 10 coaching staff. Sure they made mistakes, sure they could be better, but they had to be doing something right. A nine game winning streak is more than mere luck and weak schedule.
It's like Cak/TK/DB Cooper wrote that article. Maybe TK Dog and mangler also were contributors to the article.
Texas Jake
Rookie
There is a lot of hate for O'Brien. I am not to the point of writing him off. I am with you in giving him and Gaine another two years to see what they can do. If they team implodes this year, then I am all for replacing him.
Porky
Hall of Fame
So let's give each HC 7 years to show he can actually coach? At this rate, I'll be watching the Texans Super Bowl victory from a cloud while grooming the feathers on my wings.
Y'all are way the hell more patient than I am. After 3-4 years...or at very most 5 years, if your HC is ****, you replace him.
BOB is ****, ergo he should be replaced.
Y'all are way the hell more patient than I am. After 3-4 years...or at very most 5 years, if your HC is ****, you replace him.
BOB is ****, ergo he should be replaced.
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