TexansFanatic
Extremist
You're right, but....
Emmitt Smith ran behind the Cowboys line. Does that make him less than special?
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Sounds like Cedric Benson is coming to Houston
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You're right, but....
Emmitt Smith ran behind the Cowboys line. Does that make him less than special?
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
Overalls
All Pro
I guess that is my problem with our running backs. I feel like I have been burned by them the last two seasons. Maybe it was just me but I thought DD/W was going to come back. The running game crashed without him. Then last season I had high hopes for Ahman but still it was "The Dayne Train" to the rescue. I may be being too pesimistic but I do not have faith in any of our running backs and no I would not be more hopeful if we brought in Benson. Half a Green and half a Brown does not neccesarily equate to one whole RB. What happens if Green goes down in week one and Brown goes down in week 3. We are back to hoping some one who hasn't proven a thing running the ball. I haven't seen enough of Taylor or Walker to say that either one will be able to step up and be "the man". I like the Slayton pick but untill he plays a down we don't know what we got. We all know that just because a RB did well in college it doesn't mean he will be able to run the ball on the NFL level. We can all hope that this is the year that the injury bug doesn't bite us in the rear end but history is not on our side. As I said before I am not going to sweat what happens with Benson. If he is signed and if he makes the team, one of the other backs won't be here come week one of the season. However for him to do that he would have to play better than one of them. If he plays better than one of them, that makes the team better. I am ok with giving everything a chance to sort itself out in training camp.
El Tejano
Hall of Fame
I tend to think a change of scenery might help Benson. Especially if that team has his former college teammate (K. Studdard) and former highschool teammate (E.Winston). I mean that could help him probably, along with real pros like Ahman Green.
As far as fitting the system, he may be what our staff is looking for in a RB. First of all, he has playoff experience. Then, he was also pretty good in a two back system where he shared the load in Chicago. That right there might be something we need if we have the lead in the 4th and need to churn out yards to move the chains. Finally, many say he wont fit our system but every run I've seen him in shows he has the one cut and go style necessary for the ZBS. Not only that but when you see what Selvin Young did in the ZBS while coming directly from the zone read that Texas ran, why wouldn't you think Benson could do more damage?
As far as fitting the system, he may be what our staff is looking for in a RB. First of all, he has playoff experience. Then, he was also pretty good in a two back system where he shared the load in Chicago. That right there might be something we need if we have the lead in the 4th and need to churn out yards to move the chains. Finally, many say he wont fit our system but every run I've seen him in shows he has the one cut and go style necessary for the ZBS. Not only that but when you see what Selvin Young did in the ZBS while coming directly from the zone read that Texas ran, why wouldn't you think Benson could do more damage?
mexican_texan
Furry Tractors
I never thought Benson was any special. To be honest, UT hasn't had a RB that impressed me in a while. Their line is pretty underrated.
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
benson sucks, that's all there is to it. it must be nice to be in the same backfield as black jesus (VY). go back and look at the top ten of that draft and it was one the worst in history. what does that have to say about his draft status. benson should give half of signing bonus to vince and say "thank you for making me look like something i wasn't"
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
You know it's strange to me that this rumor has taken such legs here in Houston to the point that I've come across references on the net to our MB concerning this subject. Nowhere, during this entire time have I seen even the inkling of a hint of this from a primary source. If supposition is all that has been presented thus far, it would seem much more likely that Bensen's new home would end up being in Dallas where Jerry's apparently casting for The Longest Yard part II.
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
Thanks for clarifying. I don't know why I thought it was Chicago.
If he has a good lawyer, with these fact as stated in your article, he can likely beat both of these charges.
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
You know it's strange to me that this rumor has taken such legs here in Houston to the point that I've come across references on the net to our MB concerning this subject. Nowhere, during this entire time have I seen even the inkling of a hint of this from a primary source. If supposition is all that has been presented thus far, it would seem much more likely that Bensen's new home would end up being in Dallas where Jerry's apparently casting for The Longest Yard part II.
A number of media sources have suggested that Ced Benson would want to come back to Texas. Houston has more of a need than Dallas.
And then two MB members state that he is in town and is going to be talking to the Texans.
I have little doubt that he is interested in coming here. The question is whether the Texans will show interest back.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
TC,
I'm not saying that Benson is not in town, nor am I saying that he's not interested in the Texans. I am saying though, in all due respect to the MB sources (who may be right on), there are no primary sources for these rumors.
I came across the article that was quoted above right after it was release, but if you look at the wording, it's just another sports writer offering his own personal supposition:
If Benson gets off of and past his somewhat questionable recent court proceedings, I would have no problems with testing the waters with a potentially valuable addition to our running stable........IF a low risk deal is attained with a serious laying down of the law prior to a signing.
The question that you posed at the end of your post would be the same that I share in that it would be the first time that the Texans would be extending their hand to a very troubled young man. If it does happen, the Texans will have come to terms with a new-found solidified team stability, which has come with a long-awaited evolution of team maturity.
I'm slow, I admit. But I'm coming around to this kind of thinking.
I see a bit of a difference here. Our coaches probably don't believe Alexander has anything left in the tank. But you bring in a young'n with something to prove..... maybe Ahman Green will play through some of those nagging quad injusries or what not. Maybe Chris Brown... just don't make the team.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Well, why go to the trouble of keeping the apple cart all settled down and calm just for the benefit of a guy who likely won't be available at the end of the season (Green)? I'd say Ahman Green in the twilight of his career is one of those 3-4 guys you point to and I'd say that he's more likely to give you nothing in return for the money you spend on him every year he sticks around. Ahman isn't Ron Dayne (in the respect that he's an older back with few miles on him), he's got miles and he's got a bona fide history of injury.
I think the following. Chris Taylor is I believe going to his last Texans training camp unless he really busts out in this system and turns into some kind of "out of nowhere" monster. The exact same thing applies to Darius Walker. Chris Brown is the designated starter when Ahman Green can't go and Ahman Green is a handful of missed practices and maybe one MRI away from being out of the league. Slaton is going to make the team regardless.
I think they keep 4 running backs and those guys are Green, Brown, Slaton, and the better of Walker/Taylor UNLESS they sign Benson in which case they're going to be Brown, Benson, Slaton, and Walker/Taylor (not much of a prediction I know). If they go with just 3 backs then both Walker and Taylor are done.
We will all of course go with the decision that the Texans arrive at and I think we're all good with that. The people who want to see Benson given a shot here are all of the opinion that if the Texans don't give him a look then they probably had a good reason to pass. The guys who don't see the point in it or who think it's a bad move will still wait and see if the Texans knew something they didn't once the man signs a contract.
Additionally.
I like how this thread has developed and how it's stayed very civil and on-topic. I'm getting a sense that the fans (at least the ones I talk to regularly) have their trust in the franchise back. You don't see the kind of frustration and anger in this debate that you did with things like "Reggie/Vince" or "Ocho Stinko, extend him or let him go?" or even "2 second rounders for Matt Schaub?". 8-8 and some hope did wonders for the football talk around here didn't it?
IF the texans are really talking to Benson, I'd bet it's related more to Chris Browns position on this team than anything else. Green is our big money back. He's the starter, and the one we expect the most from. He's on this team, because we paid so much money for him, and would take a big hit in terms of salary cap & dead money if he stays.
Chris Brown, is the "veteran" backup. Taylor, Walker & Slaton are all the future, the developmental backs. Because of their age & talent, we're going to keep them around.
Chris Brown more or less took Ron Dayne's place on this team. However, because of injury issues, he doesn't really satisfy that role very well. But, since Dayne wasn't exactly the model of health, that was pretty much a wash. We got younger, and more talented at that backup veteran spot.
Now if Benson can show that he does want to play football, and that he's got his act together, Brown won't make it past training camp.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
I really have no problems with either your or Hevoyel's analyses, but my feeling is that, as strange as it may seem, the only guaranteed spot is that of Slaton. There are too many variables that will shake themselves out by the end of TC including ZBS fit , surprise performances either good or bad, or (un)expected early injury(ies) to make predictions anything but a crap shoot.............but your thoughts are certainly interesting ones.
TexanBacker93
Veteran
I really have no problems with either your or Hevoyel's analyses, but my feeling is that, as strange as it may seem, the only guaranteed spot is that of Slaton. There are too many variables that will shake themselves out by the end of TC including ZBS fit , surprise performances either good or bad, or (un)expected early injury(ies) to make predictions anything but a crap shoot.............but your thoughts are certainly interesting ones.
I agree that Slaton is the only one that is assured of a spot. Even though Green would be a small cap hit to cut the Texans don't seem to be so close to the cap that it would cripple them.
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Polo
Guest
I doubt Benson would be broughtin to be a third back...
Can he play special teams ?
Can he play special teams ?
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
While agree in principal about some teams being able to control a bad character, like Moss. But you have to take into account that the Patriots also had a lot of proven leaders on the team, and a SuperBowl Trophy in the show case. A lot easier to have that control on proven teams with proven leaders. The Texans are a team on the rise we do not have those leaders with proven credintials that way sway someone from doing stupid things.
Lynch just changed his plea this past week and I do not think he has been sentenced as of yet. Either that or he just was. Goodell has not shown a tendency to act rash in handing out suspensions. Heck it took qubert 6 arrest or incidents before Gooddell did anything. Now once camp begins and Lynch is not suspended I will then agree with you.
El Tejano
Hall of Fame
Rosevelt Colvin, Kubiak, R. Smith all have rings. Ahman, AJ, Demeco all have Pro Bowls. Combine that with a young group who everyone says is hungry and I think you have a good place to be.
TexanSam
Hall of Fame
Hey! Our thread/discussion found it's way onto a blog! Cool
http://www.realfootball365.com/index.php/articles/texans/11805
http://www.realfootball365.com/index.php/articles/texans/11805
PapaL
Loose Screw
You see the comment from RedskinFan21ST:
"Maybe it will keep him from drinking drunk also."
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Polo
Guest
I doubt it.
Ahman Green is an old dog trying to learn a new trick.
Forget about big names; If anything the ZBS has shown that it can thrive without big name backs...
Chris Brown is younger, more physical, and knows the system...
Besides all that, this F.O. has shown that their #1 goal is to get better...To this point they haven't let bad P.R., public perception, Dead Money, and "Big Names" get in the way of their decision making process so why would that come into play now ?
Goldensilence
hipster elite
I think Green is the guy that would most likely get cut myself. The mind can be willing but if the body is unable to that's a beast all in itself. I'm just not sure even a healthy Ahman Green at this point could beat Brown in TC for the starter spot, but that's just my opinion, and that assumes he's can make it through as well. I'd rather take his cap hit then have him sit on the bench injured again this season and at least a guy like Walker could give some production. IMO after last season I'm not expecting anything from Green.
The back I am expecting production from strangely is Slaton. I'm not saying high end production but I think he can have a solid rookie campaign overall.
Far as Benson goes I'd love to have him sign on. I thought from the get go it was a bad place for him and a bad situation.Back home in Texas, humbled and in front of family and friends again might be the thing to help jump start his career. I think if we engineer a deal close to Colvin's there's no real cap concern either.
TexanBacker93
Veteran
I almost wouldn't mind it if Green had just gone on the IR. If the guy can't practice each week its an impossible call whether to make him active or not. Do you keep another active RB in case he decides he can't go? Do you just go with 3 and be in a bind if Green can't go. If Benson were to join the team I would rather see Green go than the others.
El Tejano
Hall of Fame
So we've heard from D.Ryans that the guy that looks the most impressive in our running game is Chris Brown. Has anyone entertained the thought of Chris Brown looking so good that he could supplant Ahman Green as that veteran presence the team needs in the back field? I mean, if Chris Brown starts looking so good wouldn't that make Green expendable? And would you really want that expensive of a back up in Ahman Green? Maybe Chris Brown is looking good and the thought of being able to get a cheap RB like Benson as back up would be a more entertaining thought and would continue the young nucleus of the team.
Sal Rosenberg
Rookie
AMEN!
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
I think people are sleeping on Chris Brown, the guy is good IMO & he's still relatively young (only 27) & has shown flashes in the 2 seasons he was the unquestioned starter. I just think that he doesn't fit the prototypical NFL Rb mold of a 300+ carry guy. I think if we can keep him at about 14 - 15 carries a game (220 -250 per 16 games), we can keep him healthy & he'll be a solid producer in the running game for us. The question is, who do we give his other 100 carries to? the obvious answer money wise is green, but i'd like to see taylor/slaton get some of that action as Kubiak is high on Taylor & this would allow slaton to get his feet wet.
I'm not sure where benson would fit in in all of this unless he's willing to be that meat tenderizer type runner that he was at UT. In that case Green is outta here, Throw Slaton & Taylor on special teams & we'd be ready to roll as CB the starter & Benson the back up.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
That's ridiculous. I'm as big of a Longhorn fan as it gets, and Benson has done nothing but embarrass UT. Fans and players in Chicago consider Benson to be a flat out joke. Now in Austin, many seem to forget how many times that Texas coaches and alums got Benson out of trouble and also kept him out of headlines and did really good damage control. I know quite a few people that were good friends with Benson personally, and since he was in college all I've heard was what a huge weed smoker the guy is and was all those years at UT.
Since the NFL all he has done is disappoint on and off the field. There aren't many UT fans giving him support anymore and I'm one of them. I don't give players who screw up over and over passes just because they played for my team. Benson is an *****.
El Tejano
Hall of Fame
That's pretty much what I was thinking. I think there could be a chance that Ahman really hasn't shown a whole lot and as someone stated before this may be one of those insurance policy type signings identical to Quinn Gray. You have to have a good back up plan if either Brown or Green go down when the pads come on. Otherwise your stuck with 3 guys, one who has had a previous injury before in Chris Taylor and the other two are still wet behind the ears.
Vinnie
with an I E
DiehardChris
You betcha!
It makes sense that Chris Brown looked like the best RB in OTAs.
1. He's played for Gibbs before, and knows the true ZBS better than any of the others in the short time that the RBs got to work in the new system.
2. No pads, no contact.
Now - if Ryans says that after training camp - I'd be a little more surprised and excited.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Some people wake up? Yeah, guys that screw up once or twice maybe, but not guys who get two DWI's in less than a month. That first boat ordeal was incredibly embarrassing for Benson with the whole story and the mugshot and pictures and all. That should have easily been enough to make this guy wake up, but not even a month later he was back in the can for the same thing.
And on top of all of this Benson has not looked good one season of his career yet, so what are you talking bout really? He has not shown anything to support the fact that he might be able to turn it around on or off the field. He doesn't have any moves, he doesn't block well, he can't catch, he's not a HR hitter, or a move the chains kind of guy either. He's been a worthless RB that has been way overpaid and that's about it.
If the Texans are seriously thinking about wasting time with a guy that has only proven that he sucks, then that is ridiculous. I'd much rather see the Texans give Travis Henry a shot or even Sean Alexander. At least both of them have had good productive seasons, and Sean has had fantastic seasons. Sean is washed up, and I don't want him either but he has proven that he can be a productive runner when healthy while Benson is still young and still CAN"T DO IT. Henry has had his share of problems as well, but hasn't had recent ones like two DWI's in a month. He was also leading the AFC in rushing yards last year before he got hurt, and has had quite a few nice seasons. Yes, he's had his share of problems as well, but at least he's been a productive back when healthy as well.
If the Texans want to take a chance on a guy with legal problem, then at least take a chance on a guy that has proven that he can play at the NFL level. Benson has only proven that he CAN"T get it done even on a team that was a RUN FIRST kind of offense. If a guy like Jones could look as good as he did in Chicago, and Benson looked as bad he did, then why on earth would anyone think that he could come to a team that has had a worse running game than his previous team and start moving the chains? Sorry, but there is not one fact or shred of evidence to logically consider that he might become a good RB. He's not some one year player. He's already played 3 years now, and has been awful. He's already proven that he isn't any good and even a great O line which the Texans don't currently have wouldn't help him much either.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Texecutioner,
If, indeed, this is true and he has come to realize it, then that's probably enough to explain WHY he drinks and smokes weed..............to wash away his reality.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Texecutioner,
If, indeed, this is true and he has come to realize it, then that's probably enough to explain WHY he drinks and smokes weed..............to wash away his reality.
Well all you have to do is watch film of him for the last three years and check the stat book. It is a PROVEN truth.
And as far as the drinking and smoking weed, he was doing that throughout his entire college career. None of this stuff is new. Not even the arrests. It's just now, he doesn't have Austin Alums and coaching staff getting him out of trouble and BIG headlines. He was able to smoke and drink all of the time in college and still be a great player, but the NFL is a man's game where a guy like Benson can't be good without working really hard and studying film to prepare himself. It's just not that easy like it was in college when you play behind a great O line at Texas and play against a lot of sub-par BIG 12 defenses that aren't that great.
You know if he was able to show some great natural ability here and there since coming into the NFL, then maybe I could understand giving him a shot or having some sort of faith in him turning his career around, but I haven't seen ANYTHING IMPRESSIVE at all since he came to the NFL. He just hasn't looked good at all, and I have been a huge Benson fan since his Freshman year in college when I would curse the television when Mack Brown wasn't playing him enough. But since he came into the league, there hasn't been one thing that he could do well. Not one. So, I don't think it's really an issue of him not working that hard or getting into trouble, he's just not that good and little bad habits as a runner have only gotten worse since he got into the league. He developed a really bad stumbling problem his Senior year in college which stopped him from turning a few 10 to 12 yard plays into 50 to 60 yard TD's. Last year every single time I saw the Bears playing Benson was stumbling all over the field and falling short of extra yards, but only this time he wasn't falling short of TD plays, he was falling short of simple first downs.
Personally I'd love to see Benson turn it around and become what people thought he would be, but it aint gonna happen. The guy just isn't up to par with the rest of the successful RB's in the league.
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
Here's my write up on it. Including a good link from Keith from HPF his new Texans website.
As for getting two DWI arrests in short order, here's my view of this as a lawyer.
Once you have got a DWI arrest for anything, every time you get pulled over after that for a traffic offense, you are likely going to be asked to do field sobriety tests. The police will run your record in their car, and decide that you may be a risk.
Field sobriety tests are garbage. They are performed because a lot of people, including Ced Benson refuse to do the breathalyzer. I would probably refuse a breath test too, even if I had only one drink because I think those machines are garbage too.
We do not know whether Ced was driving while intoxicated. That whole innocent before proven guilty stuff that we crazy Americans are supposed to believe (except that Goodell guy).
The bigger problem that Ced has is that he has never realized what trouble he is in. That once you get a reputation for immaturity and partying, whether deserved or undeserved, you have to go out of your way not to appear like a partier. And you have to affirmatively show what a hard worker you are and how serious you are about your job.
He didn't get that. Whether he understands that now is possibly a different story. Nobody would take his relatively small contract off waivers. Now it is a question about whether he can get anyone to believe that he is going to do things the right way. To try to take that target off his back by not only not partying, but by not doing anything that could possibly appear to be partying--like social drinking, or staying out late.
As for getting two DWI arrests in short order, here's my view of this as a lawyer.
Once you have got a DWI arrest for anything, every time you get pulled over after that for a traffic offense, you are likely going to be asked to do field sobriety tests. The police will run your record in their car, and decide that you may be a risk.
Field sobriety tests are garbage. They are performed because a lot of people, including Ced Benson refuse to do the breathalyzer. I would probably refuse a breath test too, even if I had only one drink because I think those machines are garbage too.
We do not know whether Ced was driving while intoxicated. That whole innocent before proven guilty stuff that we crazy Americans are supposed to believe (except that Goodell guy).
The bigger problem that Ced has is that he has never realized what trouble he is in. That once you get a reputation for immaturity and partying, whether deserved or undeserved, you have to go out of your way not to appear like a partier. And you have to affirmatively show what a hard worker you are and how serious you are about your job.
He didn't get that. Whether he understands that now is possibly a different story. Nobody would take his relatively small contract off waivers. Now it is a question about whether he can get anyone to believe that he is going to do things the right way. To try to take that target off his back by not only not partying, but by not doing anything that could possibly appear to be partying--like social drinking, or staying out late.
Porky
Hall of Fame
I like ya a whole bunch, but I gotta tell you that sounds like typical lawyer garbage to me. I have been driving for darn near 30 years, and never once have been asked to do a field sobriety test. This guy obvisouely has a problem, and as texecustioner has stated, it's not a new one.
I really don't see what this guy adds. He hasn't proven one darn thing, and I'm not sure he has the skills to succeed in a ZBS anyway. Sounds to me like he is a whole lot more trouble than he is worth. I say pass.
eriadoc
Texan-American
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Just to throw something out there factually. Benson wasn't even driving when he was arrested the first time. He was anchored in a cove where folks commonly go party. The cops did a "safety inspection" to get on board since there had obviously been no visible boating activity and decided to give him a field sobriety test on the boat. Don't know about the 2nd arrest, but the first one wasn't like he was out driving drunk and got pulled or obvious impairment.
Porky
Hall of Fame
Oh ok, I didn't realize that. Nevertheless, I for one am not going to kiss this skunk just because he is living in my tree. I call a skunk a skunk, and he stinks to high heavens!
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
More to the point, though, is the fact that he has alienated his teammates and his on-field performance has been quite poor. He's just a name. He's been an awful NFL back- and he doesn't fill a niche... he's not a good 3rd down back, not a good short yardage back, and he's not a homerun hitter.
NO THANKS!
Vinnie
with an I E
I'm guessing not. I spoke to a guy that coached Kubiak in high school the other day after I read this thread to see what he thinks, and he said Benson has a snowball's chance in hell of playing for the Texans as long as Gary is coaching. Granted that's just his opinion but he knows Gary pretty well.
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
Clearly, even beyond these two events, there are questions about Benson's maturity level. The Texans aren't keen on players who think that they are above the game and that don't have to respect it.
Benson could end up one of those guys who falls out of the league because he was too immature to deal. Or he can be humbled by all the events that have happened, see his dream evaporating, and then go the cut your dreads, become more low key, be a monk way of staying in the NFL.
The Texans front office staff has tons of connection to the UT staff. So they will pretty much know if they think Benson is worth a flyer or not.
DiehardChris
You betcha!
Here.
I'm not sure how I feel about this. I mean, literally - the guy at PFT is posting the story, through Steph's Fanhouse article... based on a message board rumor.
I thought this deserved its own thread... please, mods - move it to the previous thread if you disagree... but I started this thread more about the fact that the complete and total rumor with no basis, no back-up - nothing - is now "out there" because of our little message board. Heh.
Does anyone else have a completely and totally unfounded, wildly-speculated, zero basis for fact rumor that they want to get picked up by a hugely popular NFL site?
I'm not sure how I feel about this. I mean, literally - the guy at PFT is posting the story, through Steph's Fanhouse article... based on a message board rumor.
I thought this deserved its own thread... please, mods - move it to the previous thread if you disagree... but I started this thread more about the fact that the complete and total rumor with no basis, no back-up - nothing - is now "out there" because of our little message board. Heh.
Does anyone else have a completely and totally unfounded, wildly-speculated, zero basis for fact rumor that they want to get picked up by a hugely popular NFL site?
drewmar74
disgruntled
Hey, check it out Stephanie! You were cited on PFT's rumor mill....
CEDRIC TO TEXANS?
Posted by Mike Florio on June 30, 2008, 3:47 p.m.
There are rumors on the grapevine, courtesy of AOL’s FanHouse, that the Houston Texans might eventually take a chance on former Texas tailback Cedric Benson.
Benson, the No. 4 overall pick in the 2005 draft, was cut earlier this month by the Bears. Benson thereafter cleared waivers, and has drawn no interest on the open market.
As Stephanie Stradley of FanHouse points out, the team’s current depth chart at the position doesn’t inspire feelings of awe or wonder. (We still like what rookie Steve Slaton of WVU might be able to do in a one-cut, zone-blocking scheme, if he can get back to hitting the hole and turning on the jets.)
Still, Benson isn’t exactly an upgrade, given his performances during his NFL career. Absent proof that he has learned his lesson, and that he otherwise plans to lift weights and run hard and all that crap, it might be a risk not worth taking.
I thought that was pretty cool but does it make you a rumor mongerer?
DiehardChris
You betcha!
Here's my thing. I've said it before, and I've put many other words to it - but cut and dry:
Two alcohol arrests in a month. You think the first was BS? Fine. The second one still shows that he is not smart, and that he doesn't care about football. Kubes and Smith could turn him around, sure - and I'm sure we have other mental midgets on the Texans... but how much of an immature child are you if you can't keep yourself from driving drunk a month after... being arrested for being drunk?
Two alcohol arrests in a month. You think the first was BS? Fine. The second one still shows that he is not smart, and that he doesn't care about football. Kubes and Smith could turn him around, sure - and I'm sure we have other mental midgets on the Texans... but how much of an immature child are you if you can't keep yourself from driving drunk a month after... being arrested for being drunk?
Goldensilence
hipster elite
Comparisons to other athletes come to mind atm who have had brushes with the law. I'm guessing at this point the difference is NFL production. If Benson had that we'd still be talking about multiple teams interested in him.
Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you really understand what it takes. Has Cedric hit this point? I guess only people close to him could tell us that for sure. I don't think his time in the NFL is done yet and he'll probably have a suitor or two by the time TC opens up(of the top of my head I'd say Cleveland and Arizona could use some experience in their backfield). In the mean time I hope he is still training and well into playing shape for a second shot.
I'd love for it to be here but I don't see it happening.
Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you really understand what it takes. Has Cedric hit this point? I guess only people close to him could tell us that for sure. I don't think his time in the NFL is done yet and he'll probably have a suitor or two by the time TC opens up(of the top of my head I'd say Cleveland and Arizona could use some experience in their backfield). In the mean time I hope he is still training and well into playing shape for a second shot.
I'd love for it to be here but I don't see it happening.
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
That's why people go to PFT. They want to know what people are talking about. And this is one of the things Texans fans are talking about.
I have no problem if it is things are labled as rumor.
/monger monger
//minor minor sidepoint. Note that there hasn't been a statement from Bob McNair saying he wouldn't take a player like Benson, as there was when Terrell Owens was available. Probably means nothing, and maybe that sort of statement is around the corner, but just sayin.