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Texans interested in RB Chris Brown | Update: Signed
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drewmar74
disgruntled
TEXANRED
Texan-American
Its his awsome 59 yards a game and the inability to run for 1 yard at the goal-line or on 4th downs.
He also does not show up to play until week 8.
For the last two years he has had the bulk of the carries and for the last two years we have finished in the bottom of rushing.
Texaninlild
Veteran
So which RB won't make the roster?
I expect we will draft a back in the 3rd or 4th. I wouldn't expect them to cut the young man.
Green, Brown, Taylor, Walker, Rookie? Who will be cut? I can only see them keeping 3 on the roster.
I vote we add a shitty RB Voltron Smiley to the selection.
Do we give him number 29 or 30? Perhaps we can give him number 29 1/2.
I expect we will draft a back in the 3rd or 4th. I wouldn't expect them to cut the young man.
Green, Brown, Taylor, Walker, Rookie? Who will be cut? I can only see them keeping 3 on the roster.
I vote we add a shitty RB Voltron Smiley to the selection.
Do we give him number 29 or 30? Perhaps we can give him number 29 1/2.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
So which RB won't make the roster?
I expect we will draft a back in the 3rd or 4th. I wouldn't expect them to cut the young man.
Green, Brown, Taylor, Walker, Rookie? Who will be cut? I can only see them keeping 3 on the roster.
I vote we add a shitty RB Voltron Smiley to the selection.
Do we give him number 29 or 30? Perhaps we can give him number 29 1/2.
Barring serious injury, I believe we will keep 4 on the 53 man roster:
CBrown
AGreen
CTaylor
Walker or a rookie TBA..
My guess is it will be a late round rookie who can play special teams. Otherwise, he and/or Walker will likely find themselves on the practice squad. I see no way we draft a RB in the first 4 rounds!
As much as it is true that CBrown has been injury-prone, he has played in at least 11 games every season- that's not too bad!
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
It's not hate, it's honest evaluation. I like and appreciate him, however he is slow, overweight, over the hill, has poor vision, and will never be a key piece of a playoff team.
GP
Go Texans!
You gotta' be kidding me.
The free agent move we make is for a guy who can't wrestle the starting job from LenDale White?
I want to publicly state that I am ready to fist-fight
anybody who thinks this is a good move. He's injury-prone and M.I.A. as much as Green was last year.
Forget the details of the contract. I wouldn't care if we'd spent $1 on him. To me, that's $1 that could have bought a burger for Dayne.
LOL. I hate this team. We are so retarded when it comes to running backs.
The free agent move we make is for a guy who can't wrestle the starting job from LenDale White?
I want to publicly state that I am ready to fist-fight
anybody who thinks this is a good move. He's injury-prone and M.I.A. as much as Green was last year.Forget the details of the contract. I wouldn't care if we'd spent $1 on him. To me, that's $1 that could have bought a burger for Dayne.
LOL. I hate this team. We are so retarded when it comes to running backs.
Texaninlild
Veteran
So are you thinking we draft CB, OT, CB in rounds 1-4?
I don't think Taylor will be ready. I have not seen a RB come back from a serious knee injury in the following year and play well. I did like him before the injury.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
Well, my understanding is that it was a pretty clean ACL tear. Guys are coming back to that pretty quickly now. Also, he was injured in August- it's not like it happened in November. He should be fully recovered from the injury 7-9 months afterwards. After that, it's a matter of mentally recovering. So, I think he should be good to go by preseason. However, you never know.
DiehardChris
You betcha!
I think there's a fairly decent chance that we don't even draft a RB now.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
One thing about chris brown is that if he hits a crease, he's gone. He has explosion as good as any back in the league. if he gets some of those creases dayne got last yr, it will be a long run. Browns problem has always been health related. I can see him getting 15 carries per and the neext back getting 15 carries per and kubes riding the hot hand.
Wolf
100% Texan
I am satisfied with this move.we filled a hole, injury prone or not this team is a RBBC and hopefully parts of the shitty voltron will stand the test of 16 or more weeks... i don't know what we paid the guy but like Aj said on my signature... This team has to build its stars through the draft.. CC and crew proved that there is a reason players are left to go to FA .they want to get paid and paid well. (overpay) and teams that have their star core players find ways to keep them.
Wolf
100% Texan
interesting scenario if we would have chose it
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/playerStats?categoryId=140393
brown
career 4.3 average per rush and 9 average per catch with 13 fumbles (8 lost)
or who we possibly could have had
Bush
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7751
I am just saying so far Texans dodged a bullet, so please dont' read much more into it
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/playerStats?categoryId=140393
brown
career 4.3 average per rush and 9 average per catch with 13 fumbles (8 lost)
or who we possibly could have had
Bush
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7751
3.7 average per rush and 7.2 average per catch with 9 fumbles(5 lost)I am just saying so far Texans dodged a bullet, so please dont' read much more into it
barrett
All Pro
Man I wish the draft would hurry up & get here, not because I'm tired of making/reading mock drafts either, its that darn GM Rick Smith before the draft even gets here he's gonna have all our needs filled & no reason to even make draft selections
gotta love 'em!
barrett
All Pro
You gotta' be kidding me.
The free agent move we make is for a guy who can't wrestle the starting job from LenDale White?
I want to publicly state that I am ready to fist-fight
Forget the details of the contract. I wouldn't care if we'd spent $1 on him. To me, that's $1 that could have bought a burger for Dayne.
LOL. I hate this team. We are so retarded when it comes to running backs.
wow.
STEEL BLUE TEXANS
Hall of Fame
The Texans will still draft a running back. I think we go into the season with 4 RBs, Ahman Green being the odd man out. It will be running back by committee. That would be my guess.
TexanSam
Hall of Fame
I like this signing. I think Chris Brown can do very well in our system. He has shown flashes of what he can do. Unfortunately he's always nicked up. To me it kind of seems that's we're fixing our running back situation the same way we fixed the WR position last year. Last season we had Kevin Walter, Andre Davis, and Jacoby Jones all fighting to be the #2 WR. It brought about good competition and our WR corps was much improved. I think the same thing will happen with our running backs. We now have Chris Taylor, Darius Walker, Chris Brown, and Ahman Green to compete for the guy getting the most playing time. Maybe it's just a gut feeling, but between Brown, Taylor, and Walker I think we may find our future RB out of that group.
JayCee
Waterboy
Calm down
Haven't seen the below posted yet;
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/5618434.html
b0ng
Bad Hombre
You gotta' be kidding me.
The free agent move we make is for a guy who can't wrestle the starting job from LenDale White?
I want to publicly state that I am ready to fist-fight
Forget the details of the contract. I wouldn't care if we'd spent $1 on him. To me, that's $1 that could have bought a burger for Dayne.
LOL. I hate this team. We are so retarded when it comes to running backs.
You're amazing.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
Barrett, you bring up some very interesting points. I'm going to have to contemplate on that for a while. I think I speak for the rest of the board when I say, "your insight is irreplacable".
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
You gotta' be kidding me.
The free agent move we make is for a guy who can't wrestle the starting job from LenDale White?
I want to publicly state that I am ready to fist-fight
Forget the details of the contract. I wouldn't care if we'd spent $1 on him. To me, that's $1 that could have bought a burger for Dayne.
LOL. I hate this team. We are so retarded when it comes to running backs.
I am sorry did you see the contracts being thrown out for guys who suck like (Hate to say this) Julius Jones who is not one the field in the 4th quarter or on those tough downs and you would like the Texans to throw **** loads of cash for that? That would like promising a bunch of folks a very good bluesish rock band and giving the Hanson (I dont give a rats ass about what they are trying to portray with there so called new sound). It is just not only stupid but it does nothing to help this team get better by strapping a wad of cash to guys who suck, when you can sign someone who is good when healthy to a low dollar high reward contract.
TC, will conrrect me if I am wrong but didn;t they call Marvin Harrisons injury a bone bruise just like they did Green? He sat out 7 or 8 weeks and did not play and practice hard and he came back for the last playoff game and was atrocious and he was on the sidelines during the last drive. So please get off about the injury unless you will say the same things about Marvin harrison.
Mike Kerns
LYSB Podcast
I actually like it. But I would rather have just about anyone over Ahman Green...
Brando
Hall of Fame
You gotta' be kidding me.
The free agent move we make is for a guy who can't wrestle the starting job from LenDale White?
I want to publicly state that I am ready to fist-fight
Forget the details of the contract. I wouldn't care if we'd spent $1 on him. To me, that's $1 that could have bought a burger for Dayne.
LOL. I hate this team. We are so retarded when it comes to running backs.
Why don't you pull a Fight Club and fight yourself?
Just youtube it so we can watch.
Imatexanfan
Hall of Fame
You know he is only 27 with Ahman in his 30s so whats the deal. Hell they'll probably release either or in training camp anyways.
Maddict5
Hall of Fame
From the Titans message board, somebody actually sums up the Houston rushing game in one sentence:
GP
Go Texans!
Nah. That'd be too much of a "risk."
I defy anyone to sit here and tell me, honestly, that this is going to turn out to be a rewarding signing for this team. You guys can bash me all you want for being "pessimistic" and for "ragging on this team," and you can tell me to go find another team. I could care.
But I feel the same way about this move as I did about the Ahman Green signing this time last year, and I got ragged on here for stating the obvious about the Ahman Green hype. I'd rather get flamed and be right, as opposed to being unrealistically optimistic and wrong.
You guys "pretending" that this might work out, and that we might get such-and-such out of Chris Brown....well, continue to delude yourselves. If it makes you feel good about this team's pathetic running back situation...then take the drug and be happy.
Darius Walker and Chris Taylor are now the most promising running backs on our team. Let that sink in for a moment.....................
Maddict5
Hall of Fame
GP
Go Texans!
and their pair of high pick rb's (2nd's) are doing so well?
GP, I SHALL DEFY THOU
LOL! I'm Lovin' it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
See if they say that when ol' lenny swells up Gary Brown style circa 95'-96 or that all-pro reserve chris henry turns out to be just what he was in high school & college a guy to split carries with.
Having said that i don't like the signing, This dude is Kubiak's nightmare as a RB. Injury prone & has bouts of fumbilitis at times. I would've been okay with just picking someone up in the draft to groom.
Goldensilence
hipster elite
and their pair of high pick rb's (2nd's) are doing so well?
GP, I SHALL DEFY THOU
You forgot the #3 overall they took.
Honestly It's not that bad of a signing considering we don't have to rely on Dayne as the primary backup now. I think this puts more flexibility with what we want to do come draft day. From all signs I've seen Mendenhall won't fall to us now and with Stewart's pending surgery that takes him out of the picture. So what other options were the Texans supposed to be looking at? Was anyone else keen on 5 Mil a year to Turner? Jones who can't carry the full load? A player Comparable to Green in Shaun Alexander? Kevin Jones?
What would you have us do then GP? Lay out your reasonable plan. You're screaming as if you were the only one on the board who held reservations about signing Ahman last year. Get over yourself.
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
For a 2 year deal. How can you not be happyabout this deal?
If it works out, great; and if it doesn't it cost you nothing.
And the icing is it does not stop you from drafting a RB at 18 if one is there that you like.
All in all another brilliant move by Rick Smith. Once again we may enter the draft with most of our needs addressed and therefore we can go bpa all day.
El Tejano
Hall of Fame
Has anyone seen Chris Brown run? I was looking over some of his footage and looks to me alot of his reasons for getting hurt are due to his aggressiveness in his runs. Dude does lower his head and takes a hit, and has shown some resilience in his running. Take the Simmons hit, which I feel is what kept Chris Brown from being better, he put his head down and got hurt but he wasn't scared.
I also don't think Kubiak is making him the end all of RBs. He knows this is a position of weakness, he knows his team has more than enough holes to fill (OT, CB, LB, RB, S). This move just parallels what he did with the WR corp. He brought in alot of talent be they young old, injury prone or healthy and ended up making them a strenght.
I would much rather have AG, DW, CT, CB, and rookie than just AG, DW, CT and rookie. We can still draft one in the later round that will be good (Ray Rice maybe).
I also don't think Kubiak is making him the end all of RBs. He knows this is a position of weakness, he knows his team has more than enough holes to fill (OT, CB, LB, RB, S). This move just parallels what he did with the WR corp. He brought in alot of talent be they young old, injury prone or healthy and ended up making them a strenght.
I would much rather have AG, DW, CT, CB, and rookie than just AG, DW, CT and rookie. We can still draft one in the later round that will be good (Ray Rice maybe).
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Starts and injuries are not the same thing. Dude has played behind Eddie George, Travis Henry and then LenDale White. By your standard, Sage is a scrub and the Texans are idiots for not taking a 3rd for him.
Texans fans love that clip (and it is good hit) but Brown came back into that game while Simmons was out for several games afterwards.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
actually his lack of lowering his head leads to many of his injuries. Many upright running styles lead to more injuries for backs. You always hear coaches talking about "getting behind your pads".....Brown runs fairly high for a rb.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
He might have come back in that game, but if I remember correctly he missed a game or two after due to a slight shoulder separation.
HoustonFrog
Dallas Frog
Malloy, don't go there, GP thought Carr was great, thinks Kubes is a bad coach and is transitional, thinks Sage is a savior and many other things.
As far the situation. There is nothing not to like. We didn't break the bank for the guy. He was coached up in Colorado's system by Gibbs when he was with Denver. He is probably the most talented back we have now. I think the way it plays out is instead of having 4-5 RBs that you are trying to figure out, you have Brown and Green splitting carries to keep each other fresh and healthy. You then draft a guy...maybe not 1st round...and you have those 3 and maybe Taylor. It is an upgrade in talent and we don't have a logjam of 5 guys who are mediocre. That's how I see them working it.
eriadoc
Texan-American
It's not often you get to mix in football and Hanson in the same post. Bravo, sir.
Malloy
Hall of Fame
It might very well play out like that, sounds plausible to me at least.
HJam72
Hall of Fame
Eric Dickerson
This probably ain't about Brown anyway, but I always wondered when I was a kid and they bragged about Dickerson running with his knees so high--what about him getting his shoulder pads (head) down? I know he didn't run with his head between his legs.
Since I brought it up, does Brown get his knees high?
Brown is someone I've been REAL impressed with when I saw him play, but I'm clueless about how bad the injury problems may be.
HJam72
Hall of Fame
That's what I was thinking as soon as I heard they were looking at Brown.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
I think Dickerson was 6'3" also...he was not a normal run of the mill back and I haven't seen anyone like him since him. Calvin Hill also ran well and he ran bolt upright. Brown has good cut and run ability. He should do well here when healthy.Eric Dickerson
This probably ain't about Brown anyway, but I always wondered when I was a kid and they bragged about Dickerson running with his knees so high--what about him getting his shoulder pads (head) down? I know he didn't run with his head between his legs.
Since I brought it up, does Brown get his knees high?
Brown is someone I've been REAL impressed with when I saw him play, but I'm clueless about how bad the injury problems may be.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
Paying Brown and treating Brown like he's only a small piece of the puzzle mitigates the injury issue. He has played in at least 11 games each of his 5 seasons. So, he's not broken down, he's just likely to miss some time. With Green, Taylor, Walker and/or a rookie, that shouldn't be too much of a concern. One thing Kubes has learned the first two seasons is to not count on anybody's health.